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Steve, has Janene been tested by a certified parasitology lab. There should be

one in Australia. But if you have trouble finding one, you may contact the PCI

which is the one my MD uses. Enclosed

is their URL.

I was very surprised that I tested positive for one. The test cost US$80. It

was a simple matter of using the test kit they send. Over night shipment of

the samples was not required.

Parasitology Center Inc. Home Page

http://www.parasitetesting.com/

REGARDS,

ray

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I', curious which parasite do they say you have. I believe parasites can be

a large factor in our disease and they are often overlooked. Be well. kathy

rheumatic RE:Grainfields Survey

> Steve, has Janene been tested by a certified parasitology lab. There

should be

> one in Australia. But if you have trouble finding one, you may contact the

PCI

> which is the one my MD uses. Enclosed

> is their URL.

> I was very surprised that I tested positive for one. The test cost US$80.

It

> was a simple matter of using the test kit they send. Over night shipment

of

> the samples was not required.

> Parasitology Center Inc. Home Page

> http://www.parasitetesting.com/

>

> REGARDS,

> ray

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Hi Ray,

>Steve, has Janene been tested by a certified parasitology lab.

Janene is the technical manager of a lab which runs parasitology testing in

our state - one of her special interests is parasitology (she loves showing

us awful photos :). She says the problem is each potential parasite needs to

be tested for individually, so exhausting the possibilities is fairly daunting.

I had a look at the site you mentioned and she has tested herself for many of

the species listed. Does this lab test for the whole list from one sample?

The history of Janene's diarrhea and weight loss has been a problem. She has

done well from the systemic scleroderma point of view in general. Although she

still has stiffness and her fingers are curled, after five years of the disease

she has no evidence of internal damage and a doctor she works with (a

scleroderma

specialist) says she appears to be stable, which means a great deal with

scleroderma.

Her blood tests are close to normal, she sleeps and eats well, seems to have

plenty of energy and gets on with her life. But the bouts of diarrhea keep on

re-occurring and she is so thin that the need to put weight back on is getting

crucial. When she stops minocycline, the diarrhea stops, but other antibiotics

haven't worked for her and she feels the minocycline definitely has saved her

life. So she tried other probiotics and that made the diarrhea worse. It may

be that her gut motility has been affected by the scleroderma.

Steve and I always act as guinea-pigs for anything we find for Janene (for new

people, Steve who posted about the Grainfields is my son and runs rheumatic.org

and this group). We have found some very good supplements, but the advantage

of the Grainfields products seems to be the pre-digested ingredients and the

large range of live probiotics, including saccharomyces boulardii. Janene's

diarrhea stopped almost immediately she started taking it and we hope this will

continue.

If you look at the ingredients, there are some similar products in the US, but

they seemed more expensive. The Grainfields powders cost from around $35 - $50

Australian but there is enough to last a couple of months.

Several people have mailed me that they are suffering from wasting/loss of

weight

so this product may be of benefit and we welcome your feedback if you try it.

Chris.

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Hi Dean,

>Please send Janene our best. I hope she finds a good combination that

>allows her to gain back some weight. I know I have sensitivites to

>probiotcs myself...nothing as severe as what Janene experiences, but my

>stomach does flips for about an hour after I take them.

We hadn't heard of anyone else who reacts that way to probiotics so your message

is interesting.

>Has Janene talked with a doctor about taking doxycycline?

Janene didn't do very well on doxycycline - she's also tried clarithromycin

and was on clindamycin IVs for a long time. In general, minocycline has been

the best for her as far as the scleroderma goes. The first doctor we found who

would prescribe the antibiotic (years ago before the therapy was heard of here)

was a really clueless guy who told her 'oh look you don't have ANY gut flora')

and didn't do anything about it. So presumably the diarrhea has been a gut

dysbiosis

problem and the Grainfields seems to have helped the problem so far.

Thanks, Chris.

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Dear & Steve:

I thank you and Steve for telling us about Grainfields food products.

Their products are excellent and their customer service is surperb.

Of their food products, my favorite is Grains & Greens and the B E Wholegrain

liquid which is loaded with good bacteria:

AGM Foods Pty. Ltd.

http://www.agmfoods.com/

The shipping to USA is a bit expensive, but if you select the UPS value box,

and fill it up with product, the pro-rated shipping expense is not that

bad.(note: 2 value box sizes:10kg-22 lbs. or 25kg-55 lbs

Another alternative is to buy from their distributor in Canada, but while the

shipping cost is lower, the product cost is much higher:

http://www.grainfields.org

Grainfields products with their high nutrient and good bacteria content are a

perfect addition to the antibiotic protocol.

REGARDS,

ray

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Steve, to answer your question,

after using Grainfields for a while I noticed improved digestion, energy, and

elimination.

If any one knows of a product like it made in north America, I would like to

hear about it.

In the literature they sent with

my first order, they said that

vitamin c also destroys good bacteria. As a compromise, I take

vitamin C and minocin early in

the day, and Grainfields later in

the day.

They also mentioned that they have been asked to start a prduction facility in

the US, but

so far nothing has come of it.

REGARDS,

ray

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