OT - either someone's hacking account or spamming my email

[Guest guest]

But if an iTunes address was subscribed to the list, and was bouncing back an

autoreply, wouldn't that autoreply go in as a post not as a reply email? I don't

get emails from any other person in the group when they post--I have my settings

on the Daily Digest mode, which means once or twice a day I get an email with up

to 25 posts in it. Most are replies to other posts.

If iTunes is autoreplying, which is what we are getting, and they are

subscribed, the email should appear like a post to the group. That makes me

think that the group list itself is somehow infected with a virus. Because an

autoreply from a subscribed address should show up like another member's

autoreply did over the holidays. Once a day or so there was a post from an

autoreply from someone who was away over the holidays.

[Guest guest]

But if an iTunes address was subscribed to the list, and was bouncing back an

autoreply, wouldn't that autoreply go in as a post not as a reply email? I don't

get emails from any other person in the group when they post--I have my settings

on the Daily Digest mode, which means once or twice a day I get an email with up

to 25 posts in it. Most are replies to other posts.

If iTunes is autoreplying, which is what we are getting, and they are

subscribed, the email should appear like a post to the group. That makes me

think that the group list itself is somehow infected with a virus. Because an

autoreply from a subscribed address should show up like another member's

autoreply did over the holidays. Once a day or so there was a post from an

autoreply from someone who was away over the holidays.

[Guest guest]

I have several e-mail accounts, but I only use my " anuria-67854 " account for

bpd-related groups. So far, the iTunes spam has only appeared in my

" anuria-67854 " e-mail inbox, so, I think its likely that it has something to do

with Yahoo! Groups and possibly only this Group. I have an iTunes account, but,

I haven't even opened iTunes in like, months. So, I'm at a loss to understand

how to stop it.

Blocking their address in my e-mail doesn't seem to work at all.

-Annie

> > >I haven't been getting the automated e-mail responses you

> > >describe, but it could be due to two factors: (a) I selected

> > >the option of only reading Group posts in the Messages section

> > >of our Yahoo! Groups site: I don't receive Group posts as

> > >e-mail, and ( I'm on a Mac.

> >

> > Neither of those things is going to stop iTunes support from

> > sending you automated messages if it gets a message from you. If

> > you're not getting them, it could be that they're ending up in

> > the spam mailbox for the e-mail account you use here. Or perhaps

> > you're not actually checking mail at the address you're using

> > here? If you read the messages via the web interface rather than

> > via e-mail, it might be that you're posting " from " an account

> > you don't regularly look at. It is also possible that some

> > messages here don't meet the requirements for getting automated

> > responses.

> >

> > >Note: automated ITunes e-mail messages are (so far) not

> > >appearing in the Messages at the Group site for this Group,

> > >which tends to make me think its your e-mail / your computer

> > >that has been hacked.

> >

> > They're unlikely to ever appear there because iTunes isn't

> > sending messages to this group. It automatically replies to the

> > address in the from: header of the messages, not the reply-to:

> > header. That means the messages go to the people who post

> > messages, not the group as a whole. Someone who has been

> > involved in this group at some point (although not necessarily

> > currently) almost certainly has a computer that is infected.

> > With that one exception, the people getting the messages aren't

> > getting them because there's anything wrong at their end. This

> > is going to continue until someone unsubscribes the address that

> > is generating the automatic replies.

> >

> > It is also worth noting that as long as this is happening,

> > whoever reads the messages sent to iTunes support will probably

> > be able to see what we say. It might be a good idea to watch

> > what you say until this is resolved if that idea makes you

> > uncomfortable.

> >

> > As annoying as this is, it is far better than the possibility of

> > a crazy nada or fada or one of their flying monkeys causing

> > trouble by e-mail.

> >

> > --

> > Katrina

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I have several e-mail accounts, but I only use my " anuria-67854 " account for

bpd-related groups. So far, the iTunes spam has only appeared in my

" anuria-67854 " e-mail inbox, so, I think its likely that it has something to do

with Yahoo! Groups and possibly only this Group. I have an iTunes account, but,

I haven't even opened iTunes in like, months. So, I'm at a loss to understand

how to stop it.

Blocking their address in my e-mail doesn't seem to work at all.

-Annie

> > >I haven't been getting the automated e-mail responses you

> > >describe, but it could be due to two factors: (a) I selected

> > >the option of only reading Group posts in the Messages section

> > >of our Yahoo! Groups site: I don't receive Group posts as

> > >e-mail, and ( I'm on a Mac.

> >

> > Neither of those things is going to stop iTunes support from

> > sending you automated messages if it gets a message from you. If

> > you're not getting them, it could be that they're ending up in

> > the spam mailbox for the e-mail account you use here. Or perhaps

> > you're not actually checking mail at the address you're using

> > here? If you read the messages via the web interface rather than

> > via e-mail, it might be that you're posting " from " an account

> > you don't regularly look at. It is also possible that some

> > messages here don't meet the requirements for getting automated

> > responses.

> >

> > >Note: automated ITunes e-mail messages are (so far) not

> > >appearing in the Messages at the Group site for this Group,

> > >which tends to make me think its your e-mail / your computer

> > >that has been hacked.

> >

> > They're unlikely to ever appear there because iTunes isn't

> > sending messages to this group. It automatically replies to the

> > address in the from: header of the messages, not the reply-to:

> > header. That means the messages go to the people who post

> > messages, not the group as a whole. Someone who has been

> > involved in this group at some point (although not necessarily

> > currently) almost certainly has a computer that is infected.

> > With that one exception, the people getting the messages aren't

> > getting them because there's anything wrong at their end. This

> > is going to continue until someone unsubscribes the address that

> > is generating the automatic replies.

> >

> > It is also worth noting that as long as this is happening,

> > whoever reads the messages sent to iTunes support will probably

> > be able to see what we say. It might be a good idea to watch

> > what you say until this is resolved if that idea makes you

> > uncomfortable.

> >

> > As annoying as this is, it is far better than the possibility of

> > a crazy nada or fada or one of their flying monkeys causing

> > trouble by e-mail.

> >

> > --

> > Katrina

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I have several e-mail accounts, but I only use my " anuria-67854 " account for

bpd-related groups. So far, the iTunes spam has only appeared in my

" anuria-67854 " e-mail inbox, so, I think its likely that it has something to do

with Yahoo! Groups and possibly only this Group. I have an iTunes account, but,

I haven't even opened iTunes in like, months. So, I'm at a loss to understand

how to stop it.

Blocking their address in my e-mail doesn't seem to work at all.

-Annie

> > >I haven't been getting the automated e-mail responses you

> > >describe, but it could be due to two factors: (a) I selected

> > >the option of only reading Group posts in the Messages section

> > >of our Yahoo! Groups site: I don't receive Group posts as

> > >e-mail, and ( I'm on a Mac.

> >

> > Neither of those things is going to stop iTunes support from

> > sending you automated messages if it gets a message from you. If

> > you're not getting them, it could be that they're ending up in

> > the spam mailbox for the e-mail account you use here. Or perhaps

> > you're not actually checking mail at the address you're using

> > here? If you read the messages via the web interface rather than

> > via e-mail, it might be that you're posting " from " an account

> > you don't regularly look at. It is also possible that some

> > messages here don't meet the requirements for getting automated

> > responses.

> >

> > >Note: automated ITunes e-mail messages are (so far) not

> > >appearing in the Messages at the Group site for this Group,

> > >which tends to make me think its your e-mail / your computer

> > >that has been hacked.

> >

> > They're unlikely to ever appear there because iTunes isn't

> > sending messages to this group. It automatically replies to the

> > address in the from: header of the messages, not the reply-to:

> > header. That means the messages go to the people who post

> > messages, not the group as a whole. Someone who has been

> > involved in this group at some point (although not necessarily

> > currently) almost certainly has a computer that is infected.

> > With that one exception, the people getting the messages aren't

> > getting them because there's anything wrong at their end. This

> > is going to continue until someone unsubscribes the address that

> > is generating the automatic replies.

> >

> > It is also worth noting that as long as this is happening,

> > whoever reads the messages sent to iTunes support will probably

> > be able to see what we say. It might be a good idea to watch

> > what you say until this is resolved if that idea makes you

> > uncomfortable.

> >

> > As annoying as this is, it is far better than the possibility of

> > a crazy nada or fada or one of their flying monkeys causing

> > trouble by e-mail.

> >

> > --

> > Katrina

> >

>

[Guest guest]

At 06:16 PM 01/06/2011 afldancer wrote:

>I haven't been getting any messages either,

You haven't posted anything else here today, have you? Thus

there was nothing from you to be responded to by the iTunes

server. Did you get one of the messages after posting?

> but if it's a virus, since iTunes is so widely used by so

> many people, it's quite possible that various members of this

> group are getting spam from some malware that has no

> connection to this group whatsoever.

No, it isn't a virus. The responses are not generated by malware

nor are they spam. They have absolutely nothing to do with

actually using iTunes either. They're genuine automated

responses from iTunes that come within seconds of posting here.

Something is causing the iTunes to receive our messages as

they're posted, causing it to respond just as it would to any

other message. The most likely way that could happen is for

someone's computer to have sent a message " from " the iTunes

support address to this group's subscription address, presumably

because it was infected with a malicious, spamming software. The

other way it could happen is if someone has set their mail

client to automatically redirect all mail from here to the

iTunes address. The latter is not likely to happen accidentally

and I can't imagine why anyone would do it by choice unless they

were angry and wanted to cause problems.

>Did I miss it, or is there actual proof it's connected to the

>Yahoo group?

The proof is that a bunch of us have found that every message

posted here generates an auto-reply from iTunes. The chances of

that being a coincidence are incredibly small.

--

Katrina

[Guest guest]

At 06:16 PM 01/06/2011 afldancer wrote:

>I haven't been getting any messages either,

You haven't posted anything else here today, have you? Thus

there was nothing from you to be responded to by the iTunes

server. Did you get one of the messages after posting?

> but if it's a virus, since iTunes is so widely used by so

> many people, it's quite possible that various members of this

> group are getting spam from some malware that has no

> connection to this group whatsoever.

No, it isn't a virus. The responses are not generated by malware

nor are they spam. They have absolutely nothing to do with

actually using iTunes either. They're genuine automated

responses from iTunes that come within seconds of posting here.

Something is causing the iTunes to receive our messages as

they're posted, causing it to respond just as it would to any

other message. The most likely way that could happen is for

someone's computer to have sent a message " from " the iTunes

support address to this group's subscription address, presumably

because it was infected with a malicious, spamming software. The

other way it could happen is if someone has set their mail

client to automatically redirect all mail from here to the

iTunes address. The latter is not likely to happen accidentally

and I can't imagine why anyone would do it by choice unless they

were angry and wanted to cause problems.

>Did I miss it, or is there actual proof it's connected to the

>Yahoo group?

The proof is that a bunch of us have found that every message

posted here generates an auto-reply from iTunes. The chances of

that being a coincidence are incredibly small.

--

Katrina

[Guest guest]

Yeah, I realized shortly after posting that and receiving my own iTunes spam

that it's something with the group. I don't even have iTunes on this computer!

It does concern me though. How can you send a message from the iTunes support

address unless you are Apple/iTunes? Also, how is it automatically picking out

our email addresses to reply to versus replying as a post to the group? I'm so

confused.

> >I haven't been getting any messages either,

>

> You haven't posted anything else here today, have you? Thus

> there was nothing from you to be responded to by the iTunes

> server. Did you get one of the messages after posting?

>

> > but if it's a virus, since iTunes is so widely used by so

> > many people, it's quite possible that various members of this

> > group are getting spam from some malware that has no

> > connection to this group whatsoever.

>

> No, it isn't a virus. The responses are not generated by malware

> nor are they spam. They have absolutely nothing to do with

> actually using iTunes either. They're genuine automated

> responses from iTunes that come within seconds of posting here.

> Something is causing the iTunes to receive our messages as

> they're posted, causing it to respond just as it would to any

> other message. The most likely way that could happen is for

> someone's computer to have sent a message " from " the iTunes

> support address to this group's subscription address, presumably

> because it was infected with a malicious, spamming software. The

> other way it could happen is if someone has set their mail

> client to automatically redirect all mail from here to the

> iTunes address. The latter is not likely to happen accidentally

> and I can't imagine why anyone would do it by choice unless they

> were angry and wanted to cause problems.

>

> >Did I miss it, or is there actual proof it's connected to the

> >Yahoo group?

>

> The proof is that a bunch of us have found that every message

> posted here generates an auto-reply from iTunes. The chances of

> that being a coincidence are incredibly small.

>

> --

> Katrina

>

[Guest guest]

Yeah, I realized shortly after posting that and receiving my own iTunes spam

that it's something with the group. I don't even have iTunes on this computer!

It does concern me though. How can you send a message from the iTunes support

address unless you are Apple/iTunes? Also, how is it automatically picking out

our email addresses to reply to versus replying as a post to the group? I'm so

confused.

> >I haven't been getting any messages either,

>

> You haven't posted anything else here today, have you? Thus

> there was nothing from you to be responded to by the iTunes

> server. Did you get one of the messages after posting?

>

> > but if it's a virus, since iTunes is so widely used by so

> > many people, it's quite possible that various members of this

> > group are getting spam from some malware that has no

> > connection to this group whatsoever.

>

> No, it isn't a virus. The responses are not generated by malware

> nor are they spam. They have absolutely nothing to do with

> actually using iTunes either. They're genuine automated

> responses from iTunes that come within seconds of posting here.

> Something is causing the iTunes to receive our messages as

> they're posted, causing it to respond just as it would to any

> other message. The most likely way that could happen is for

> someone's computer to have sent a message " from " the iTunes

> support address to this group's subscription address, presumably

> because it was infected with a malicious, spamming software. The

> other way it could happen is if someone has set their mail

> client to automatically redirect all mail from here to the

> iTunes address. The latter is not likely to happen accidentally

> and I can't imagine why anyone would do it by choice unless they

> were angry and wanted to cause problems.

>

> >Did I miss it, or is there actual proof it's connected to the

> >Yahoo group?

>

> The proof is that a bunch of us have found that every message

> posted here generates an auto-reply from iTunes. The chances of

> that being a coincidence are incredibly small.

>

> --

> Katrina

>

[Guest guest]

Yeah, I realized shortly after posting that and receiving my own iTunes spam

that it's something with the group. I don't even have iTunes on this computer!

It does concern me though. How can you send a message from the iTunes support

address unless you are Apple/iTunes? Also, how is it automatically picking out

our email addresses to reply to versus replying as a post to the group? I'm so

confused.

> >I haven't been getting any messages either,

>

> You haven't posted anything else here today, have you? Thus

> there was nothing from you to be responded to by the iTunes

> server. Did you get one of the messages after posting?

>

> > but if it's a virus, since iTunes is so widely used by so

> > many people, it's quite possible that various members of this

> > group are getting spam from some malware that has no

> > connection to this group whatsoever.

>

> No, it isn't a virus. The responses are not generated by malware

> nor are they spam. They have absolutely nothing to do with

> actually using iTunes either. They're genuine automated

> responses from iTunes that come within seconds of posting here.

> Something is causing the iTunes to receive our messages as

> they're posted, causing it to respond just as it would to any

> other message. The most likely way that could happen is for

> someone's computer to have sent a message " from " the iTunes

> support address to this group's subscription address, presumably

> because it was infected with a malicious, spamming software. The

> other way it could happen is if someone has set their mail

> client to automatically redirect all mail from here to the

> iTunes address. The latter is not likely to happen accidentally

> and I can't imagine why anyone would do it by choice unless they

> were angry and wanted to cause problems.

>

> >Did I miss it, or is there actual proof it's connected to the

> >Yahoo group?

>

> The proof is that a bunch of us have found that every message

> posted here generates an auto-reply from iTunes. The chances of

> that being a coincidence are incredibly small.

>

> --

> Katrina

>

[Guest guest]

I think Katrina tried to explain that in a prior post, let me see if I can

find it...

Per Katrina: " No, it isn't a virus. The responses are not generated by

malware

nor are they spam. They have absolutely nothing to do with

actually using iTunes either. They're genuine automated

responses from iTunes that come within seconds of posting here.

Something is causing the iTunes to receive our messages as

they're posted, causing it to respond just as it would to any

other message. The most likely way that could happen is for

someone's computer to have sent a message " from " the iTunes

support address to this group's subscription address, presumably

because it was infected with a malicious, spamming software. The

other way it could happen is if someone has set their mail

client to automatically redirect all mail from here to the

iTunes address. The latter is not likely to happen accidentally

and I can't imagine why anyone would do it by choice unless they

were angry and wanted to cause problems. "

I'm not sure what's up with that. It stopped for a bit. After I had

replied a couple of times, I did not get an iTunes message. I went to take

a nap and when I woke up I had another one waiting for me.

Very confusing!

I also got a reply from iTunes support... which was less than helpful. They

were telling me how to deal with fraudulent charges, even though I stated in

the email I did send them that there were NO charges made. So... I have no

idea. I think Katrina has the right idea... it's not anyone being hacked,

but more likely as she explained that someone's PC has been compromised or

someone's causing problems.

I think it would be wise for everyone to hold off on posting anything BPD

related until this is sorted out for good.

Mia

>

>

> Yeah, I realized shortly after posting that and receiving my own iTunes

> spam that it's something with the group. I don't even have iTunes on this

> computer!

>

> It does concern me though. How can you send a message from the iTunes

> support address unless you are Apple/iTunes? Also, how is it automatically

> picking out our email addresses to reply to versus replying as a post to the

> group? I'm so confused.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I think Katrina tried to explain that in a prior post, let me see if I can

find it...

Per Katrina: " No, it isn't a virus. The responses are not generated by

malware

nor are they spam. They have absolutely nothing to do with

actually using iTunes either. They're genuine automated

responses from iTunes that come within seconds of posting here.

Something is causing the iTunes to receive our messages as

they're posted, causing it to respond just as it would to any

other message. The most likely way that could happen is for

someone's computer to have sent a message " from " the iTunes

support address to this group's subscription address, presumably

because it was infected with a malicious, spamming software. The

other way it could happen is if someone has set their mail

client to automatically redirect all mail from here to the

iTunes address. The latter is not likely to happen accidentally

and I can't imagine why anyone would do it by choice unless they

were angry and wanted to cause problems. "

I'm not sure what's up with that. It stopped for a bit. After I had

replied a couple of times, I did not get an iTunes message. I went to take

a nap and when I woke up I had another one waiting for me.

Very confusing!

I also got a reply from iTunes support... which was less than helpful. They

were telling me how to deal with fraudulent charges, even though I stated in

the email I did send them that there were NO charges made. So... I have no

idea. I think Katrina has the right idea... it's not anyone being hacked,

but more likely as she explained that someone's PC has been compromised or

someone's causing problems.

I think it would be wise for everyone to hold off on posting anything BPD

related until this is sorted out for good.

Mia

>

>

> Yeah, I realized shortly after posting that and receiving my own iTunes

> spam that it's something with the group. I don't even have iTunes on this

> computer!

>

> It does concern me though. How can you send a message from the iTunes

> support address unless you are Apple/iTunes? Also, how is it automatically

> picking out our email addresses to reply to versus replying as a post to the

> group? I'm so confused.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I think Katrina tried to explain that in a prior post, let me see if I can

find it...

Per Katrina: " No, it isn't a virus. The responses are not generated by

malware

nor are they spam. They have absolutely nothing to do with

actually using iTunes either. They're genuine automated

responses from iTunes that come within seconds of posting here.

Something is causing the iTunes to receive our messages as

they're posted, causing it to respond just as it would to any

other message. The most likely way that could happen is for

someone's computer to have sent a message " from " the iTunes

support address to this group's subscription address, presumably

because it was infected with a malicious, spamming software. The

other way it could happen is if someone has set their mail

client to automatically redirect all mail from here to the

iTunes address. The latter is not likely to happen accidentally

and I can't imagine why anyone would do it by choice unless they

were angry and wanted to cause problems. "

I'm not sure what's up with that. It stopped for a bit. After I had

replied a couple of times, I did not get an iTunes message. I went to take

a nap and when I woke up I had another one waiting for me.

Very confusing!

I also got a reply from iTunes support... which was less than helpful. They

were telling me how to deal with fraudulent charges, even though I stated in

the email I did send them that there were NO charges made. So... I have no

idea. I think Katrina has the right idea... it's not anyone being hacked,

but more likely as she explained that someone's PC has been compromised or

someone's causing problems.

I think it would be wise for everyone to hold off on posting anything BPD

related until this is sorted out for good.

Mia

>

>

> Yeah, I realized shortly after posting that and receiving my own iTunes

> spam that it's something with the group. I don't even have iTunes on this

> computer!

>

> It does concern me though. How can you send a message from the iTunes

> support address unless you are Apple/iTunes? Also, how is it automatically

> picking out our email addresses to reply to versus replying as a post to the

> group? I'm so confused.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Perhaps a thread should be made to let folks know what's up? Just due to

some of the sensitive nature of what is discussed here.

Mia

[Guest guest]

At 06:23 PM 01/06/2011 afldancer wrote:

>But if an iTunes address was subscribed to the list, and was

>bouncing back an autoreply, wouldn't that autoreply go in as a

>post not as a reply email?

No. Programs that respond to e-mail messages can choose to

respond to various different addresses in the headers. Normally,

e-mail clients respond to the reply-to: address if there is one

when doing simple replies because that's why it is included in

messages where it is desirable to respond to something other

than the original sender's address. (Using " reply-to-all " gives

different results than using " reply " , but that's not germaine to

this discussion.) The iTunes autoresponder doesn't use the

reply-to: header. It uses the from: header because for its

purposes, that is the more sensible header to use.

Auto-responding to groups instead of to individuals is mostly

considered bad netiquette. We should all be very, very glad that

this auto-responder is not responding to the group. Doing so

what set up a loop which could quickly result in hundreds of

messages per hour as each auto-reply was auto-replied to again.

(I subscribe to a mailing list that someone did that to once. I

think it got up to several hundred messages an hour before the

list-owner came home and saw what was going on and put a stop to

it.)

>I don't get emails from any other person in the group when they

>post--I have my settings on the Daily Digest mode, which means

>once or twice a day I get an email with up to 25 posts in it.

>Most are replies to other posts.

That's because people normally respond to the group, not to the

original sender. If I chose to respond to your address rather

than using the group address, then you'd get an individual

message from me. That's simply not appropriate here for the most

part though, so people don't normally do it.

>If iTunes is autoreplying, which is what we are getting, and

>they are subscribed, the email should appear like a post to the

>group. That makes me think that the group list itself is

>somehow infected with a virus.

It isn't.

>Because an autoreply from a subscribed address should show up

>like another member's autoreply did over the holidays. Once a

>day or so there was a post from an autoreply from someone who

>was away over the holidays.

That particular auto-reply was set up to respond to the

reply-to: address, which is generally bad form if you're

subscribed to mailing lists. Not everybody understands such

things enough to set them up properly though.

--

Katrina

[Guest guest]

As long as you post using a fake name/ID (or first name only) and an anonymous

e-mail address, never mention the real names of anyone you know, and do not

mention specifically where you live or work, I think that should be OK. On the

home-page of this Yahoo! Group, in the Introduction Randi requests us to post

anonymously for that reason: to maintain our safety.

I use a separate fake ID or handle and a separate e-mail address just for bpd

support groups because I was cyber-stalked for nearly 3 years by a former

" friend " , so, I am concerned about Internet safety and make a point of

maintaining my anonymity because of that.

-Annie

(a handle I use, short for " Little Orphan Annie " , because I feel like I have

always been emotionally orphaned.)

>

> Perhaps a thread should be made to let folks know what's up? Just due to

> some of the sensitive nature of what is discussed here.

>

> Mia

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

As long as you post using a fake name/ID (or first name only) and an anonymous

e-mail address, never mention the real names of anyone you know, and do not

mention specifically where you live or work, I think that should be OK. On the

home-page of this Yahoo! Group, in the Introduction Randi requests us to post

anonymously for that reason: to maintain our safety.

I use a separate fake ID or handle and a separate e-mail address just for bpd

support groups because I was cyber-stalked for nearly 3 years by a former

" friend " , so, I am concerned about Internet safety and make a point of

maintaining my anonymity because of that.

-Annie

(a handle I use, short for " Little Orphan Annie " , because I feel like I have

always been emotionally orphaned.)

>

> Perhaps a thread should be made to let folks know what's up? Just due to

> some of the sensitive nature of what is discussed here.

>

> Mia

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

As long as you post using a fake name/ID (or first name only) and an anonymous

e-mail address, never mention the real names of anyone you know, and do not

mention specifically where you live or work, I think that should be OK. On the

home-page of this Yahoo! Group, in the Introduction Randi requests us to post

anonymously for that reason: to maintain our safety.

I use a separate fake ID or handle and a separate e-mail address just for bpd

support groups because I was cyber-stalked for nearly 3 years by a former

" friend " , so, I am concerned about Internet safety and make a point of

maintaining my anonymity because of that.

-Annie

(a handle I use, short for " Little Orphan Annie " , because I feel like I have

always been emotionally orphaned.)

>

> Perhaps a thread should be made to let folks know what's up? Just due to

> some of the sensitive nature of what is discussed here.

>

> Mia

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks for the explanation, Katrina. It sort of makes sense to me. Now if we

could just get it to turn off! =)

> >But if an iTunes address was subscribed to the list, and was

> >bouncing back an autoreply, wouldn't that autoreply go in as a

> >post not as a reply email?

>

> No. Programs that respond to e-mail messages can choose to

> respond to various different addresses in the headers. Normally,

> e-mail clients respond to the reply-to: address if there is one

> when doing simple replies because that's why it is included in

> messages where it is desirable to respond to something other

> than the original sender's address. (Using " reply-to-all " gives

> different results than using " reply " , but that's not germaine to

> this discussion.) The iTunes autoresponder doesn't use the

> reply-to: header. It uses the from: header because for its

> purposes, that is the more sensible header to use.

> Auto-responding to groups instead of to individuals is mostly

> considered bad netiquette. We should all be very, very glad that

> this auto-responder is not responding to the group. Doing so

> what set up a loop which could quickly result in hundreds of

> messages per hour as each auto-reply was auto-replied to again.

> (I subscribe to a mailing list that someone did that to once. I

> think it got up to several hundred messages an hour before the

> list-owner came home and saw what was going on and put a stop to

> it.)

>

> >I don't get emails from any other person in the group when they

> >post--I have my settings on the Daily Digest mode, which means

> >once or twice a day I get an email with up to 25 posts in it.

> >Most are replies to other posts.

>

> That's because people normally respond to the group, not to the

> original sender. If I chose to respond to your address rather

> than using the group address, then you'd get an individual

> message from me. That's simply not appropriate here for the most

> part though, so people don't normally do it.

>

> >If iTunes is autoreplying, which is what we are getting, and

> >they are subscribed, the email should appear like a post to the

> >group. That makes me think that the group list itself is

> >somehow infected with a virus.

>

> It isn't.

>

> >Because an autoreply from a subscribed address should show up

> >like another member's autoreply did over the holidays. Once a

> >day or so there was a post from an autoreply from someone who

> >was away over the holidays.

>

> That particular auto-reply was set up to respond to the

> reply-to: address, which is generally bad form if you're

> subscribed to mailing lists. Not everybody understands such

> things enough to set them up properly though.

>

> --

> Katrina

>

[Guest guest]

I'm getting these messages too now.I'm not even remotely connected to Itunes

because I've never used it but I hope the support people enjoy my posts

-C.

[Guest guest]

I'm getting these messages too now.I'm not even remotely connected to Itunes

because I've never used it but I hope the support people enjoy my posts

-C.

[Guest guest]

Hm, weird because mine have stopped... so I think. I guess sending this

message will let me know lol.

Mia

On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 7:45 AM, christine.depizan <

christine.depizan@...> wrote:

>

>

> I'm getting these messages too now.I'm not even remotely connected to

> Itunes because I've never used it but I hope the support people enjoy my

> posts

>

> -C.

>

[Guest guest]

Hm, weird because mine have stopped... so I think. I guess sending this

message will let me know lol.

Mia

On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 7:45 AM, christine.depizan <

christine.depizan@...> wrote:

>

>

> I'm getting these messages too now.I'm not even remotely connected to

> Itunes because I've never used it but I hope the support people enjoy my

> posts

>

> -C.

>

[Guest guest]

Hm, weird because mine have stopped... so I think. I guess sending this

message will let me know lol.

Mia

On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 7:45 AM, christine.depizan <

christine.depizan@...> wrote:

>

>

> I'm getting these messages too now.I'm not even remotely connected to

> Itunes because I've never used it but I hope the support people enjoy my

> posts

>

> -C.

>

[Guest guest]

I only got a few yesterday and then it stopped. I'm hoping that Yahoo Groups

took care of it, and it's not some lurking thing now.