Re: Valtrex reaction questions....

February 11, 2011

You are correct. I actually make Maddie this little 'medley' that include

celery, onion, garlic, ginger and beans...she loves it. (Olive Oil and salt...)

-- if she starts to get a runny nose.

laura (PS. Love celery!)

> > >

> > > could be strep, how are his tonsils? it could also be allergies, or

> >parasites, or food allergy

> > >

> > > From:

> > > Sent: Friday, February 11, 2011 10:13 AM

> > > To: mb12 valtrex

> > > Subject: Valtrex reaction questions....

> > >

> > > Has anyone ever experienced weepiness, CHEWING, and coughing till gagging?

> > >

> > > We are on day 3 and he is really weepy at pre-school and his teacher also

> >noticed the coughing and that he just wasn't himself.

> >

> > >

> > > My son was on Acyclovir for a couple months and had a persistent cough

(till

> >gagging) even at night. Then we've had a break from all Rx's about a week

while

> >we waited for the Valtrex/Diflucan shipment and I didn't notice coughing

during

> >that break.

> > >

> >

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February 11, 2011

what kind of beans?

To: mb12 valtrex Sent: Fri, February 11, 2011 5:50:29 PMSubject: Re: Valtrex reaction questions....

You are correct. I actually make Maddie this little 'medley' that include celery, onion, garlic, ginger and beans...she loves it. (Olive Oil and salt...) -- if she starts to get a runny nose. laura (PS. Love celery!) > > >> > > could be strep, how are his tonsils? it could also be allergies, or > >parasites, or food allergy> > > > > > > > > > > > From: > > > Sent: Friday, February 11, 2011 10:13 AM> > > To: mb12 valtrex > > > Subject:

Valtrex reaction questions....> > > > > > > > > > > > Has anyone ever experienced weepiness, CHEWING, and coughing till gagging?> > > > > > We are on day 3 and he is really weepy at pre-school and his teacher also > >noticed the coughing and that he just wasn't himself. > >> > > > > > My son was on Acyclovir for a couple months and had a persistent cough (till > >gagging) even at night. Then we've had a break from all Rx's about a week while > >we waited for the Valtrex/Diflucan shipment and I didn't notice coughing during > >that break.> > >> >> > > > > > > __________________________________________________________> It's here! Your new message! > Get new email alerts with the free Yahoo!

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February 11, 2011

black, usually...

> > > >

> > > > could be strep, how are his tonsils? it could also be allergies, or

> > >parasites, or food allergy

> > > >

> > > > From:

> > > > Sent: Friday, February 11, 2011 10:13 AM

> > > > To: mb12 valtrex

> > > > Subject: Valtrex reaction questions....

> > > >

> > > > Has anyone ever experienced weepiness, CHEWING, and coughing till

gagging?

> > > >

> > > > We are on day 3 and he is really weepy at pre-school and his teacher

also

> > >noticed the coughing and that he just wasn't himself.

> > >

> > > >

> > > > My son was on Acyclovir for a couple months and had a persistent cough

> >(till

> >

> > >gagging) even at night. Then we've had a break from all Rx's about a week

> >while

> >

> > >we waited for the Valtrex/Diflucan shipment and I didn't notice coughing

> >during

> >

> > >that break.

> > > >

> > >

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February 11, 2011

black, usually...

> > > >

> > > > could be strep, how are his tonsils? it could also be allergies, or

> > >parasites, or food allergy

> > > >

> > > > From:

> > > > Sent: Friday, February 11, 2011 10:13 AM

> > > > To: mb12 valtrex

> > > > Subject: Valtrex reaction questions....

> > > >

> > > > Has anyone ever experienced weepiness, CHEWING, and coughing till

gagging?

> > > >

> > > > We are on day 3 and he is really weepy at pre-school and his teacher

also

> > >noticed the coughing and that he just wasn't himself.

> > >

> > > >

> > > > My son was on Acyclovir for a couple months and had a persistent cough

> >(till

> >

> > >gagging) even at night. Then we've had a break from all Rx's about a week

> >while

> >

> > >we waited for the Valtrex/Diflucan shipment and I didn't notice coughing

> >during

> >

> > >that break.

> > > >

> > >

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February 11, 2011

black, usually...

> > > >

> > > > could be strep, how are his tonsils? it could also be allergies, or

> > >parasites, or food allergy

> > > >

> > > > From:

> > > > Sent: Friday, February 11, 2011 10:13 AM

> > > > To: mb12 valtrex

> > > > Subject: Valtrex reaction questions....

> > > >

> > > > Has anyone ever experienced weepiness, CHEWING, and coughing till

gagging?

> > > >

> > > > We are on day 3 and he is really weepy at pre-school and his teacher

also

> > >noticed the coughing and that he just wasn't himself.

> > >

> > > >

> > > > My son was on Acyclovir for a couple months and had a persistent cough

> >(till

> >

> > >gagging) even at night. Then we've had a break from all Rx's about a week

> >while

> >

> > >we waited for the Valtrex/Diflucan shipment and I didn't notice coughing

> >during

> >

> > >that break.

> > > >

> > >

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February 11, 2011

Weeping can be adrenals and thyroid and adrenals often go hand in hand. Chewing

can be zinc/calcium/B5/adrenals, actually a lot of things. The reflux as an

infant is often a sign of yeast and some claim that hiccups in utero may be a

sign of yeast (I'm not aware of any research on this).

Dr. Suzanne Dasilva

www.biomedicaldoc.com

> > >

> > > Has anyone ever experienced weepiness, CHEWING, and coughing till gagging?

> > >

> > > We are on day 3 and he is really weepy at pre-school and his teacher also

noticed the coughing and that he just wasn't himself.

> > >

> > > My son was on Acyclovir for a couple months and had a persistent cough

(till gagging) even at night. Then we've had a break from all Rx's about a week

while we waited for the Valtrex/Diflucan shipment and I didn't notice coughing

during that break.

> > >

> >

>

February 11, 2011

Weeping can be adrenals and thyroid and adrenals often go hand in hand. Chewing

can be zinc/calcium/B5/adrenals, actually a lot of things. The reflux as an

infant is often a sign of yeast and some claim that hiccups in utero may be a

sign of yeast (I'm not aware of any research on this).

Dr. Suzanne Dasilva

www.biomedicaldoc.com

> > >

> > > Has anyone ever experienced weepiness, CHEWING, and coughing till gagging?

> > >

> > > We are on day 3 and he is really weepy at pre-school and his teacher also

noticed the coughing and that he just wasn't himself.

> > >

> > > My son was on Acyclovir for a couple months and had a persistent cough

(till gagging) even at night. Then we've had a break from all Rx's about a week

while we waited for the Valtrex/Diflucan shipment and I didn't notice coughing

during that break.

> > >

> >

>

February 11, 2011

Weeping can be adrenals and thyroid and adrenals often go hand in hand. Chewing

can be zinc/calcium/B5/adrenals, actually a lot of things. The reflux as an

infant is often a sign of yeast and some claim that hiccups in utero may be a

sign of yeast (I'm not aware of any research on this).

Dr. Suzanne Dasilva

www.biomedicaldoc.com

> > >

> > > Has anyone ever experienced weepiness, CHEWING, and coughing till gagging?

> > >

> > > We are on day 3 and he is really weepy at pre-school and his teacher also

noticed the coughing and that he just wasn't himself.

> > >

> > > My son was on Acyclovir for a couple months and had a persistent cough

(till gagging) even at night. Then we've had a break from all Rx's about a week

while we waited for the Valtrex/Diflucan shipment and I didn't notice coughing

during that break.

> > >

> >

>

February 11, 2011

Weepiness is pretty normal as far as die off symptoms go. Die off sucks and is very uncomfortable - hence the weeping and whining. You might try motrin to help alleviate some of the discomfort. Shouldn't last longer than a week or two, but some have been known to have die off for longer.Chewing is typically a yeast symptom in my house (although some say zinc deficiency for them). Are you on antifungal? It's okay if you're not - it's better if you're not, actually because you want to start one thing at a time. If you were on an antifungal well before starting valtrex again, then you just might need a week for the antifungal med to kick in with the increased yeast. I'm really hoping you didn't start them at the same time. If you did, die off is going to be way more difficult because you are now dealing with a double die off situation. Both of which aren't comfortable.Coughing - I'm not sure about. Could be die off, could be anything. We never really had that problem *from antivirals*. But it might also be that valtrex can cause nausea during die off. Coughing is also listed as a side effect. Most side effects are transient, some side effects can be during the entire use - I don't know which coughing would be - you'd have to ask your doc. I know that typically the head ache side effect goes away after about a month and is also alleviated by increasing fluids. *shrugs* it's possible cough would also go away - I dunno. Whether or not you want to wait it out and see what happens is something you should discuss with your doc.There's a fine line between side-effect and die-off. Die off is a blanket term we kind of use for everything but really, side-effects and die off can be the same thing and usually are, actually. If you look at the list of side-effects, they are pretty much the same as descriptions of die-off. And most of these side-effects go away as the body adjusts.Cheryl ~http://www.gryffins-tail.blogspot.com~~@Gryffins_Tail~

Has anyone ever experienced weepiness, CHEWING, and coughing till gagging?

We are on day 3 and he is really weepy at pre-school and his teacher also noticed the coughing and that he just wasn't himself.

My son was on Acyclovir for a couple months and had a persistent cough (till gagging) even at night. Then we've had a break from all Rx's about a week while we waited for the Valtrex/Diflucan shipment and I didn't notice coughing during that break.

February 11, 2011

Weepiness is pretty normal as far as die off symptoms go. Die off sucks and is very uncomfortable - hence the weeping and whining. You might try motrin to help alleviate some of the discomfort. Shouldn't last longer than a week or two, but some have been known to have die off for longer.Chewing is typically a yeast symptom in my house (although some say zinc deficiency for them). Are you on antifungal? It's okay if you're not - it's better if you're not, actually because you want to start one thing at a time. If you were on an antifungal well before starting valtrex again, then you just might need a week for the antifungal med to kick in with the increased yeast. I'm really hoping you didn't start them at the same time. If you did, die off is going to be way more difficult because you are now dealing with a double die off situation. Both of which aren't comfortable.Coughing - I'm not sure about. Could be die off, could be anything. We never really had that problem *from antivirals*. But it might also be that valtrex can cause nausea during die off. Coughing is also listed as a side effect. Most side effects are transient, some side effects can be during the entire use - I don't know which coughing would be - you'd have to ask your doc. I know that typically the head ache side effect goes away after about a month and is also alleviated by increasing fluids. *shrugs* it's possible cough would also go away - I dunno. Whether or not you want to wait it out and see what happens is something you should discuss with your doc.There's a fine line between side-effect and die-off. Die off is a blanket term we kind of use for everything but really, side-effects and die off can be the same thing and usually are, actually. If you look at the list of side-effects, they are pretty much the same as descriptions of die-off. And most of these side-effects go away as the body adjusts.Cheryl ~http://www.gryffins-tail.blogspot.com~~@Gryffins_Tail~

Has anyone ever experienced weepiness, CHEWING, and coughing till gagging?

We are on day 3 and he is really weepy at pre-school and his teacher also noticed the coughing and that he just wasn't himself.

My son was on Acyclovir for a couple months and had a persistent cough (till gagging) even at night. Then we've had a break from all Rx's about a week while we waited for the Valtrex/Diflucan shipment and I didn't notice coughing during that break.

February 11, 2011

Weepiness is pretty normal as far as die off symptoms go. Die off sucks and is very uncomfortable - hence the weeping and whining. You might try motrin to help alleviate some of the discomfort. Shouldn't last longer than a week or two, but some have been known to have die off for longer.Chewing is typically a yeast symptom in my house (although some say zinc deficiency for them). Are you on antifungal? It's okay if you're not - it's better if you're not, actually because you want to start one thing at a time. If you were on an antifungal well before starting valtrex again, then you just might need a week for the antifungal med to kick in with the increased yeast. I'm really hoping you didn't start them at the same time. If you did, die off is going to be way more difficult because you are now dealing with a double die off situation. Both of which aren't comfortable.Coughing - I'm not sure about. Could be die off, could be anything. We never really had that problem *from antivirals*. But it might also be that valtrex can cause nausea during die off. Coughing is also listed as a side effect. Most side effects are transient, some side effects can be during the entire use - I don't know which coughing would be - you'd have to ask your doc. I know that typically the head ache side effect goes away after about a month and is also alleviated by increasing fluids. *shrugs* it's possible cough would also go away - I dunno. Whether or not you want to wait it out and see what happens is something you should discuss with your doc.There's a fine line between side-effect and die-off. Die off is a blanket term we kind of use for everything but really, side-effects and die off can be the same thing and usually are, actually. If you look at the list of side-effects, they are pretty much the same as descriptions of die-off. And most of these side-effects go away as the body adjusts.Cheryl ~http://www.gryffins-tail.blogspot.com~~@Gryffins_Tail~

Has anyone ever experienced weepiness, CHEWING, and coughing till gagging?

We are on day 3 and he is really weepy at pre-school and his teacher also noticed the coughing and that he just wasn't himself.

My son was on Acyclovir for a couple months and had a persistent cough (till gagging) even at night. Then we've had a break from all Rx's about a week while we waited for the Valtrex/Diflucan shipment and I didn't notice coughing during that break.

February 11, 2011

I've been skimming through the answers and I'm surprised by them. Not that I think they are wrong - I can't say and don't profess to know. I belong to the "Occam's Razor" camp, though. Sometimes the answer is the simplest one. If it were adrenals, thyroid or anything else like that, why would there only be symptoms while on antivirals?Again, I don't know who's right or wrong. I don't have that answer. But my *guess* is that it's just a side-effect since it's listed as one and it'll hopefully go away soon. I guess I'm just a little more pragmatic than most because I wouldn't even have considered those other things. And I might've been wrong not to, I dunno.

Cheryl ~http://www.gryffins-tail.blogspot.com~~@Gryffins_Tail~

Has anyone ever experienced weepiness, CHEWING, and coughing till gagging?

We are on day 3 and he is really weepy at pre-school and his teacher also noticed the coughing and that he just wasn't himself.

My son was on Acyclovir for a couple months and had a persistent cough (till gagging) even at night. Then we've had a break from all Rx's about a week while we waited for the Valtrex/Diflucan shipment and I didn't notice coughing during that break.

February 11, 2011

I've been skimming through the answers and I'm surprised by them. Not that I think they are wrong - I can't say and don't profess to know. I belong to the "Occam's Razor" camp, though. Sometimes the answer is the simplest one. If it were adrenals, thyroid or anything else like that, why would there only be symptoms while on antivirals?Again, I don't know who's right or wrong. I don't have that answer. But my *guess* is that it's just a side-effect since it's listed as one and it'll hopefully go away soon. I guess I'm just a little more pragmatic than most because I wouldn't even have considered those other things. And I might've been wrong not to, I dunno.

Cheryl ~http://www.gryffins-tail.blogspot.com~~@Gryffins_Tail~

Has anyone ever experienced weepiness, CHEWING, and coughing till gagging?

We are on day 3 and he is really weepy at pre-school and his teacher also noticed the coughing and that he just wasn't himself.

My son was on Acyclovir for a couple months and had a persistent cough (till gagging) even at night. Then we've had a break from all Rx's about a week while we waited for the Valtrex/Diflucan shipment and I didn't notice coughing during that break.

February 11, 2011

could it be yeast? Antivirals cause yeast and my son always gets weepy

with yeast overload. Chewing on things is also a yeast sign...Pam

> > > >

> > > > Has anyone ever experienced weepiness, CHEWING, and coughing till

gagging?

> > > >

> > > > We are on day 3 and he is really weepy at pre-school and his teacher

also noticed the coughing and that he just wasn't himself.

> > > >

> > > > My son was on Acyclovir for a couple months and had a persistent cough

(till gagging) even at night. Then we've had a break from all Rx's about a week

while we waited for the Valtrex/Diflucan shipment and I didn't notice coughing

during that break.

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

February 11, 2011

I tend to belong to that camp...but, it's interesting to me that you wouldn't

think " side effects " as - *deficiency* -- and the reason I think this is that

-- adding these drugs to ones system can produce 'side effects' -- but what

really is a side effect? I tend to think of it as using up resources because

the body is trying to compensate.

Like, take a 'cold.' -- If a bacteria has invaded your body and you get a cold,

the side effect *might* be a runny nose, watery eyes, a headache...to combat

this little bug, your body would then throw up the immune system which uses

potassium, sodium, sulfur, vitamin C, etc. -- if you ate a little Debby snack

cake, you aren't replenishing these things, but if you ate chicken noodle soup

with garlic bread, it might get enough of it's resources back to combat it. (I

mean, most people don't have colds 24/7/365)

I don't know either, but I just like to brainstorm, and try things out to see if

while your waiting for the Dr. -- you can make the most of your time. Plus

while your miserable trying to figure it out, it makes the time go by and not

feel like you are sitting there doing nothing...I guess I just like to be busy.

(and assume other people like to too.)

laura

>

> > Has anyone ever experienced weepiness, CHEWING, and coughing till gagging?

> >

> > We are on day 3 and he is really weepy at pre-school and his teacher also

noticed the coughing and that he just wasn't himself.

> >

> > My son was on Acyclovir for a couple months and had a persistent cough (till

gagging) even at night. Then we've had a break from all Rx's about a week while

we waited for the Valtrex/Diflucan shipment and I didn't notice coughing during

that break.

> >

>

February 11, 2011

I tend to belong to that camp...but, it's interesting to me that you wouldn't

think " side effects " as - *deficiency* -- and the reason I think this is that

-- adding these drugs to ones system can produce 'side effects' -- but what

really is a side effect? I tend to think of it as using up resources because

the body is trying to compensate.

Like, take a 'cold.' -- If a bacteria has invaded your body and you get a cold,

the side effect *might* be a runny nose, watery eyes, a headache...to combat

this little bug, your body would then throw up the immune system which uses

potassium, sodium, sulfur, vitamin C, etc. -- if you ate a little Debby snack

cake, you aren't replenishing these things, but if you ate chicken noodle soup

with garlic bread, it might get enough of it's resources back to combat it. (I

mean, most people don't have colds 24/7/365)

I don't know either, but I just like to brainstorm, and try things out to see if

while your waiting for the Dr. -- you can make the most of your time. Plus

while your miserable trying to figure it out, it makes the time go by and not

feel like you are sitting there doing nothing...I guess I just like to be busy.

(and assume other people like to too.)

laura

>

> > Has anyone ever experienced weepiness, CHEWING, and coughing till gagging?

> >

> > We are on day 3 and he is really weepy at pre-school and his teacher also

noticed the coughing and that he just wasn't himself.

> >

> > My son was on Acyclovir for a couple months and had a persistent cough (till

gagging) even at night. Then we've had a break from all Rx's about a week while

we waited for the Valtrex/Diflucan shipment and I didn't notice coughing during

that break.

> >

>

February 11, 2011

Comments within:

Cheryl

~http://www.gryffins-tail.blogspot.com~

~@Gryffins_Tail~

> I tend to belong to that camp...but, it's interesting to me that you wouldn't

think " side effects " as - *deficiency* -- and the reason I think this is that --

adding these drugs to ones system can produce 'side effects' -- but what really

is a side effect? I tend to think of it as using up resources because the body

is trying to compensate.

I don't disagree with that at all. My son takes GH and it lowers cortisol so we

take hydrocortisone. These things tend to be known, though. Now, that doesn't

mean I'm saying that's not what's happening here. It very well could be that

the antivirals are causing a deficiency. But that's not where I would think

first because it's not the simplest answer *yet*. I would first see what I

could do about the simplest answer and then move on to the next simplest answer

if the first wasn't the one. But since many of our kids have thyroid and

adrenal issues anyway, it's not the first thing I would look at - but then

again, the difference between the way I look at it and the way someone else

looks at it might be the fact that my son is already being treated and monitored

in that area.

February 11, 2011