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Cheryl,

Would you continue this long term or is this a short term treatment? I have read

that it is good to mix it with apple cider vinegar and honey. Is this something

you have ever done, or is just plain water more effective? Also, should I expect

any die-off kinds of behaviors, and if so, is there anything that can be given

to help with this? Sorry for all the questions. I've been wanting to try this

for months now, and your post finally made me order it. Thanks!

>

> Having worms is just another sign of Iodine Deficiency.

>

> Lugols solution in water - 1 to 2 drops per day of 2% - will kill the worms.

>

> Iodine kills bacteria, virus, parasites, helps the liver remove metals and

will clear up leaky gut, too.

>

> Cheryl

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Cheryl,

Would you continue this long term or is this a short term treatment? I have read

that it is good to mix it with apple cider vinegar and honey. Is this something

you have ever done, or is just plain water more effective? Also, should I expect

any die-off kinds of behaviors, and if so, is there anything that can be given

to help with this? Sorry for all the questions. I've been wanting to try this

for months now, and your post finally made me order it. Thanks!

>

> Having worms is just another sign of Iodine Deficiency.

>

> Lugols solution in water - 1 to 2 drops per day of 2% - will kill the worms.

>

> Iodine kills bacteria, virus, parasites, helps the liver remove metals and

will clear up leaky gut, too.

>

> Cheryl

>

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It can also create a substantial Herxheimer effect so be careful.sallyTo: mb12 valtrex Sent: Thu, February 3, 2011 8:15:55 PMSubject: Re: Lugols

Cheryl,

Would you continue this long term or is this a short term treatment? I have read that it is good to mix it with apple cider vinegar and honey. Is this something you have ever done, or is just plain water more effective? Also, should I expect any die-off kinds of behaviors, and if so, is there anything that can be given to help with this? Sorry for all the questions. I've been wanting to try this for months now, and your post finally made me order it. Thanks!

>

> Having worms is just another sign of Iodine Deficiency.

>

> Lugols solution in water - 1 to 2 drops per day of 2% - will kill the worms.

>

> Iodine kills bacteria, virus, parasites, helps the liver remove metals and will clear up leaky gut, too.

>

> Cheryl

>

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It can also create a substantial Herxheimer effect so be careful.sallyTo: mb12 valtrex Sent: Thu, February 3, 2011 8:15:55 PMSubject: Re: Lugols

Cheryl,

Would you continue this long term or is this a short term treatment? I have read that it is good to mix it with apple cider vinegar and honey. Is this something you have ever done, or is just plain water more effective? Also, should I expect any die-off kinds of behaviors, and if so, is there anything that can be given to help with this? Sorry for all the questions. I've been wanting to try this for months now, and your post finally made me order it. Thanks!

>

> Having worms is just another sign of Iodine Deficiency.

>

> Lugols solution in water - 1 to 2 drops per day of 2% - will kill the worms.

>

> Iodine kills bacteria, virus, parasites, helps the liver remove metals and will clear up leaky gut, too.

>

> Cheryl

>

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It can also create a substantial Herxheimer effect so be careful.sallyTo: mb12 valtrex Sent: Thu, February 3, 2011 8:15:55 PMSubject: Re: Lugols

Cheryl,

Would you continue this long term or is this a short term treatment? I have read that it is good to mix it with apple cider vinegar and honey. Is this something you have ever done, or is just plain water more effective? Also, should I expect any die-off kinds of behaviors, and if so, is there anything that can be given to help with this? Sorry for all the questions. I've been wanting to try this for months now, and your post finally made me order it. Thanks!

>

> Having worms is just another sign of Iodine Deficiency.

>

> Lugols solution in water - 1 to 2 drops per day of 2% - will kill the worms.

>

> Iodine kills bacteria, virus, parasites, helps the liver remove metals and will clear up leaky gut, too.

>

> Cheryl

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Well, that would depend. It can be a short term treatment for specific illness.

Or, long term supplementation until iodine sufficiency is reached, everything

is repaired and then it is a maintenance dosage. Not sure if anyone can

maintain sufficiency without supplementing, even if eating a ton of seafood or

iodine rich foods.

Some do use Iodine with the apple cider vinegar. No way i could, that stuff is

just too gross to me.

The only real initial thing is flu like symptoms. For a week or 2. Then it's

mostly just feeling good. No more colds. No more flu. No more IBS. No more hair

loss. The edges of my eyebrows grew back. I have lost about 40 pounds. Without

trying or changing my diet. No more depression. I had some adrenal issues that

was corrected with increased salt. I have had some liver issues from time to

time, mostly with high fat meals, corrected with apple juice and milk thistle.

Tho the liver issues didnt really happen i think till i began dumping more

junk, which happens once you achieve sufficiency. I went thru a few months of

sporadic liver issues then it was gone and havent had it since. Before Iodine i

had an eye tic. Gone now. I also had one eye larger than the other (only

noticable to ME probably!) which is now corrected. I use to have alot of

bronchitis (i smoke) and i dont have it anymore. Same with sinus infections. I

use to have several suspicious spots on various parts of my body that are gone

except one fairly persistent one. I have been arthritic for several years

before this, mostly ankles and right hip and knee. They dont ever hurt anymore.

Most importantly i feel GOOD all the time now!

My son had the same flu like symptoms the first few weeks. He also has no more

colds (had one a month foreverrr previously), his constipation is gone. His bms

are now normal. He no longer has the yeasty giggles. Ever. He no longer bites

his hands. Stimming is fairly gone. Cognitively he went from 10 words(the same

10 words for 10 years) on his Voice output device to 75 within 6 months. After a

year & 1/2 now, seeing him manipulate from page to page on his ipad is amazing!

The last few months have seen an increase in his vocal attempt at words. He says

mom regulary now rather than the once a year shocker. There are other

improvements,

Keep in mind i have never given him more than 25mg even tho he is adult size. He

is 17, 6' and about 170 lbs (from 185, very lean now less fat). I want to

increase but paranoid for no good reason except that he cant tell me if

something hurts so i have been cautious. I have to observe him to know if

anything is bothering him most the time so i have just taken it slow and steady

with a mid level dosage (12.5 being regular/maintenance adult dosage and 50mg

beign high dosage protocol). He hasnt had any issues that I can see.

All that said(way more than you asked about!), I think it depends on the

individual and how much damage they have to determine how long the higher dosage

would be needed.

The companion supplements(Mag, Se, C, B2, Niacin, Natural Salt) are necessary

fairly eliminate any problems. It all works together. I use transdermal

magnesium chloride and coconut oil daily so those probably help.

I personally think, even tho it's not part of the protocol that tyrosine may be

needed by most with higher dosages. Nothing to point to, just my own belief.

My son and I's complete list of supps is:

Iodine, Mag Chloride transdermally, Mag Malate internally, Vit C (2000mg),

which also has calcium carbonate and mag carbonate), Niacin (100mg) And Flush

Free Niacin (500mg), B2, D3 (winter months only,prefer 20 min a day of sun when

its out), Tyrosine and Enzymes. I also take NutriMeds Porcine Thyroid (less

concentrated Armour).

I did experiment recently to see what would happened if i stopped iodine. After

3 days depression hit me. Something i use to feel daily and hadnt in a long

time. So i took some iodine and it went away.

I expect this is one supplement you will never regret buying!

Cheryl

>

> Cheryl,

>

> Would you continue this long term or is this a short term treatment? I have

read that it is good to mix it with apple cider vinegar and honey. Is this

something you have ever done, or is just plain water more effective? Also,

should I expect any die-off kinds of behaviors, and if so, is there anything

that can be given to help with this? Sorry for all the questions. I've been

wanting to try this for months now, and your post finally made me order it.

Thanks!

> >

>

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Well, that would depend. It can be a short term treatment for specific illness.

Or, long term supplementation until iodine sufficiency is reached, everything

is repaired and then it is a maintenance dosage. Not sure if anyone can

maintain sufficiency without supplementing, even if eating a ton of seafood or

iodine rich foods.

Some do use Iodine with the apple cider vinegar. No way i could, that stuff is

just too gross to me.

The only real initial thing is flu like symptoms. For a week or 2. Then it's

mostly just feeling good. No more colds. No more flu. No more IBS. No more hair

loss. The edges of my eyebrows grew back. I have lost about 40 pounds. Without

trying or changing my diet. No more depression. I had some adrenal issues that

was corrected with increased salt. I have had some liver issues from time to

time, mostly with high fat meals, corrected with apple juice and milk thistle.

Tho the liver issues didnt really happen i think till i began dumping more

junk, which happens once you achieve sufficiency. I went thru a few months of

sporadic liver issues then it was gone and havent had it since. Before Iodine i

had an eye tic. Gone now. I also had one eye larger than the other (only

noticable to ME probably!) which is now corrected. I use to have alot of

bronchitis (i smoke) and i dont have it anymore. Same with sinus infections. I

use to have several suspicious spots on various parts of my body that are gone

except one fairly persistent one. I have been arthritic for several years

before this, mostly ankles and right hip and knee. They dont ever hurt anymore.

Most importantly i feel GOOD all the time now!

My son had the same flu like symptoms the first few weeks. He also has no more

colds (had one a month foreverrr previously), his constipation is gone. His bms

are now normal. He no longer has the yeasty giggles. Ever. He no longer bites

his hands. Stimming is fairly gone. Cognitively he went from 10 words(the same

10 words for 10 years) on his Voice output device to 75 within 6 months. After a

year & 1/2 now, seeing him manipulate from page to page on his ipad is amazing!

The last few months have seen an increase in his vocal attempt at words. He says

mom regulary now rather than the once a year shocker. There are other

improvements,

Keep in mind i have never given him more than 25mg even tho he is adult size. He

is 17, 6' and about 170 lbs (from 185, very lean now less fat). I want to

increase but paranoid for no good reason except that he cant tell me if

something hurts so i have been cautious. I have to observe him to know if

anything is bothering him most the time so i have just taken it slow and steady

with a mid level dosage (12.5 being regular/maintenance adult dosage and 50mg

beign high dosage protocol). He hasnt had any issues that I can see.

All that said(way more than you asked about!), I think it depends on the

individual and how much damage they have to determine how long the higher dosage

would be needed.

The companion supplements(Mag, Se, C, B2, Niacin, Natural Salt) are necessary

fairly eliminate any problems. It all works together. I use transdermal

magnesium chloride and coconut oil daily so those probably help.

I personally think, even tho it's not part of the protocol that tyrosine may be

needed by most with higher dosages. Nothing to point to, just my own belief.

My son and I's complete list of supps is:

Iodine, Mag Chloride transdermally, Mag Malate internally, Vit C (2000mg),

which also has calcium carbonate and mag carbonate), Niacin (100mg) And Flush

Free Niacin (500mg), B2, D3 (winter months only,prefer 20 min a day of sun when

its out), Tyrosine and Enzymes. I also take NutriMeds Porcine Thyroid (less

concentrated Armour).

I did experiment recently to see what would happened if i stopped iodine. After

3 days depression hit me. Something i use to feel daily and hadnt in a long

time. So i took some iodine and it went away.

I expect this is one supplement you will never regret buying!

Cheryl

>

> Cheryl,

>

> Would you continue this long term or is this a short term treatment? I have

read that it is good to mix it with apple cider vinegar and honey. Is this

something you have ever done, or is just plain water more effective? Also,

should I expect any die-off kinds of behaviors, and if so, is there anything

that can be given to help with this? Sorry for all the questions. I've been

wanting to try this for months now, and your post finally made me order it.

Thanks!

> >

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Yes Sally it can, especially if the companion nutrients arent used. The more

damaged a person is, the more virus they harbor, the more fungus and bacteria

colonies, all contribute to that effect. If your body cant eliminate all the

pathogens the Iodine kills a person can feel ill. Salt loading is utilized if

this happens. I havent experienced this at all, and I think i was pretty

damaged.

Cheryl

>

> It can also create a substantial Herxheimer effect so be careful.

>

> sally

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Yes Sally it can, especially if the companion nutrients arent used. The more

damaged a person is, the more virus they harbor, the more fungus and bacteria

colonies, all contribute to that effect. If your body cant eliminate all the

pathogens the Iodine kills a person can feel ill. Salt loading is utilized if

this happens. I havent experienced this at all, and I think i was pretty

damaged.

Cheryl

>

> It can also create a substantial Herxheimer effect so be careful.

>

> sally

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Yes Sally it can, especially if the companion nutrients arent used. The more

damaged a person is, the more virus they harbor, the more fungus and bacteria

colonies, all contribute to that effect. If your body cant eliminate all the

pathogens the Iodine kills a person can feel ill. Salt loading is utilized if

this happens. I havent experienced this at all, and I think i was pretty

damaged.

Cheryl

>

> It can also create a substantial Herxheimer effect so be careful.

>

> sally

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The usual amount for a small child is 6-12mg. At 3 I would probably go very

slow to start. One Drop to start (which is 3mg). You could even go half a drop

if you wanted to start slower.

Sometimes more iodine is better than less. The theory is that even as the iodine

is killing pathogens it is also needed to help excrete those dead pathogens. So

many people say they feel better with more than less.

I think I had liver issues because i had a lifetime of collecting virus,

bacteria and probably worms. I had already had some liver issues, gallbladder,

too. I was overweight with a lot of fat that was storage for all those

pathogens. I doubt a young fairly healthy person would have those same issues. I

have never seen give me any indication his liver was bothering him. I

think he would be rubbing his liver if he were having issues because thats what

i did to make it feel better. Not everyone has liver issues. Apple juice is very

good for the liver.

Protocol:

http://breastcancerchoices.org/iprotocol.html

http://www.fibromyalgiarecovery.com/Iodine%20Supplementation%20Protocol%20-%20Si\

mple%20-%20Ver%202.pdf

It would depend on your multi. If you have a good multi with enough Mag, C and

Bs then it would probably be fine. The natural salt isnt negotiable. Mag and C

are important even without iodine, so those are necessary. Some say the Bs

(Niacin/B2) are negotiable. I didnt add the Bs at first.

Cheryl

>

>

> Thank you so much for all the info! That's awesome. Here's what I need to

know:

>

> 1. What dose would you recommend for a 3-year-old? Both have digestive issues

(leaky gut, deficiencies, food sensitivities), and low tone. One of them has

stimming and articulation issues (PDD).

>

> 2. The only part that you talked about that would concern me is the liver

issue. Are you saying by detoxing so fast, it put stress on your liver? I would

worry about a 3-year-old's ability to handle this. Is this something I should be

worried about?

>

> 3. The other supps - is there a list somewhere that goes over dosing? Are all

of these supps necessary? If so, is the amount in a multi-vitamin enough or do I

have to get all of them separately?

>

> 4. Last but not least, is it ok to just try a very low dose of lugols and see

what happens before investing in all these other supps, or do you always have to

give all this stuff with the iodine?

>

> Thanks again for everything!

>

>

> - Kirk-

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Dont see why not. I have never used it.

Salt, More Mag and C with Apple Juice seemed to help me most.

Cheryl

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>

> Can you use charcoal to help with the detoxing?

>

>

> - Kirk-

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Dont see why not. I have never used it.

Salt, More Mag and C with Apple Juice seemed to help me most.

Cheryl

>

>

> Can you use charcoal to help with the detoxing?

>

>

> - Kirk-

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Cheryl, when you say " natural salts " , do you mean salts that you give with meals (like the pink sea salts)?Also, what's the difference between Niacin and Flush Free Niacin?  I would have guessed I'd be ok with one Niacin supp -- why both forms of Niacin?

 

Dont see why not. I have never used it.

Salt, More Mag and C with Apple Juice seemed to help me most.

Cheryl

>

>

> Can you use charcoal to help with the detoxing?

>

>

> - Kirk-

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Cheryl, when you say " natural salts " , do you mean salts that you give with meals (like the pink sea salts)?Also, what's the difference between Niacin and Flush Free Niacin?  I would have guessed I'd be ok with one Niacin supp -- why both forms of Niacin?

 

Dont see why not. I have never used it.

Salt, More Mag and C with Apple Juice seemed to help me most.

Cheryl

>

>

> Can you use charcoal to help with the detoxing?

>

>

> - Kirk-

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Cheryl, when you say " natural salts " , do you mean salts that you give with meals (like the pink sea salts)?Also, what's the difference between Niacin and Flush Free Niacin?  I would have guessed I'd be ok with one Niacin supp -- why both forms of Niacin?

 

Dont see why not. I have never used it.

Salt, More Mag and C with Apple Juice seemed to help me most.

Cheryl

>

>

> Can you use charcoal to help with the detoxing?

>

>

> - Kirk-

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Yes pink salt is the one i use. I just like it's flavour best. Some use Celtic

sea salt. Natural unprocessed salt is what you want. You want salt at meals and

1/4 to 1 tsp additional per day. I put a tsp in water and drink it twice a day.

People with less damage would use less. 1/4tsp is a good place to start then add

if needed.

The flush free is what recommended by the protocol. I prefer both even tho they

do the same things, the niacin does more. I use a 50 mg tablet cut in half twice

a day. Never flushed yet. Just my preference.

Cheryl

>

> Cheryl, when you say " natural salts " , do you mean salts that you give with

> meals (like the pink sea salts)?

>

> Also, what's the difference between Niacin and Flush Free Niacin? I would

> have guessed I'd be ok with one Niacin supp -- why both forms of Niacin?

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Yes pink salt is the one i use. I just like it's flavour best. Some use Celtic

sea salt. Natural unprocessed salt is what you want. You want salt at meals and

1/4 to 1 tsp additional per day. I put a tsp in water and drink it twice a day.

People with less damage would use less. 1/4tsp is a good place to start then add

if needed.

The flush free is what recommended by the protocol. I prefer both even tho they

do the same things, the niacin does more. I use a 50 mg tablet cut in half twice

a day. Never flushed yet. Just my preference.

Cheryl

>

> Cheryl, when you say " natural salts " , do you mean salts that you give with

> meals (like the pink sea salts)?

>

> Also, what's the difference between Niacin and Flush Free Niacin? I would

> have guessed I'd be ok with one Niacin supp -- why both forms of Niacin?

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Yes pink salt is the one i use. I just like it's flavour best. Some use Celtic

sea salt. Natural unprocessed salt is what you want. You want salt at meals and

1/4 to 1 tsp additional per day. I put a tsp in water and drink it twice a day.

People with less damage would use less. 1/4tsp is a good place to start then add

if needed.

The flush free is what recommended by the protocol. I prefer both even tho they

do the same things, the niacin does more. I use a 50 mg tablet cut in half twice

a day. Never flushed yet. Just my preference.

Cheryl

>

> Cheryl, when you say " natural salts " , do you mean salts that you give with

> meals (like the pink sea salts)?

>

> Also, what's the difference between Niacin and Flush Free Niacin? I would

> have guessed I'd be ok with one Niacin supp -- why both forms of Niacin?

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Cheryl,

I just reread this and, oops - I gave it in orange juice! I just started this morning. Why no citrus? Just curious.

- Kirk-

To: mb12 valtrex From: mossyforrest@...Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 02:17:41 +0000Subject: Re: Lugols

No it doesnt havent to be kept cold. Heat will make it evaporate faster. As for dosing you want to dilute it in clean water, or non citrus juice or put it in peanut butter. Just about anything they will eat you can mix it with. Its pretty easy to hide one drop. Or 2. Which is about all little kids will be getting at once anyway. And you can give half a drop if the child is small and you want to go slower. Just put half a drop in water, you drink half and give the other half :-)Iodine (especially greater than 2%) can be tough on some peoples skin and mouth/throat tissues if not diluted. Plus the more water you put the less it tastes bad! I never had a problem giving the iodine.Drinks it right up in water. GSE on the other hand was never fun and never easy. Cheryl > > > > Just a quick question - I just got my Lugols in the mail and there are no> directions anywhere. Does it need to be refrigerated once I open it?>

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Cheryl,

I just reread this and, oops - I gave it in orange juice! I just started this morning. Why no citrus? Just curious.

- Kirk-

To: mb12 valtrex From: mossyforrest@...Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 02:17:41 +0000Subject: Re: Lugols

No it doesnt havent to be kept cold. Heat will make it evaporate faster. As for dosing you want to dilute it in clean water, or non citrus juice or put it in peanut butter. Just about anything they will eat you can mix it with. Its pretty easy to hide one drop. Or 2. Which is about all little kids will be getting at once anyway. And you can give half a drop if the child is small and you want to go slower. Just put half a drop in water, you drink half and give the other half :-)Iodine (especially greater than 2%) can be tough on some peoples skin and mouth/throat tissues if not diluted. Plus the more water you put the less it tastes bad! I never had a problem giving the iodine.Drinks it right up in water. GSE on the other hand was never fun and never easy. Cheryl > > > > Just a quick question - I just got my Lugols in the mail and there are no> directions anywhere. Does it need to be refrigerated once I open it?>

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Not a big deal. Some people dont think it matters. If you are getting some of

your iodine transdermally it matters less.

The C changes the iodine to iodide. The body requires both iodine and iodide.

The now " all " iodide you just drank can be changed back to iodine in the body.

Some think thats a process that should be avoided, others dont. I tend to err on

the side that most our damaged bodies have trouble with processes (think the

different Seleniums and folic acid) so i dont make it work harder than it has

to.

Cheryl

>

>

> Cheryl,

>

> I just reread this and, oops - I gave it in orange juice! I just started this

morning. Why no citrus? Just curious.

>

>

> - Kirk-

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Not a big deal. Some people dont think it matters. If you are getting some of

your iodine transdermally it matters less.

The C changes the iodine to iodide. The body requires both iodine and iodide.

The now " all " iodide you just drank can be changed back to iodine in the body.

Some think thats a process that should be avoided, others dont. I tend to err on

the side that most our damaged bodies have trouble with processes (think the

different Seleniums and folic acid) so i dont make it work harder than it has

to.

Cheryl

>

>

> Cheryl,

>

> I just reread this and, oops - I gave it in orange juice! I just started this

morning. Why no citrus? Just curious.

>

>

> - Kirk-

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Not a big deal. Some people dont think it matters. If you are getting some of

your iodine transdermally it matters less.

The C changes the iodine to iodide. The body requires both iodine and iodide.

The now " all " iodide you just drank can be changed back to iodine in the body.

Some think thats a process that should be avoided, others dont. I tend to err on

the side that most our damaged bodies have trouble with processes (think the

different Seleniums and folic acid) so i dont make it work harder than it has

to.

Cheryl

>

>

> Cheryl,

>

> I just reread this and, oops - I gave it in orange juice! I just started this

morning. Why no citrus? Just curious.

>

>

> - Kirk-

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Ok gotcha. Thank you!

- Kirk-

To: mb12 valtrex From: mossyforrest@...Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2011 15:34:46 +0000Subject: Re: Lugols

Not a big deal. Some people dont think it matters. If you are getting some of your iodine transdermally it matters less. The C changes the iodine to iodide. The body requires both iodine and iodide. The now "all" iodide you just drank can be changed back to iodine in the body. Some think thats a process that should be avoided, others dont. I tend to err on the side that most our damaged bodies have trouble with processes (think the different Seleniums and folic acid) so i dont make it work harder than it has to.Cheryl>> > Cheryl,> > I just reread this and, oops - I gave it in orange juice! I just started this morning. Why no citrus? Just curious.> > > - Kirk-

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