Guest guest Posted April 11, 2005 Report Share Posted April 11, 2005 These products all sound great - I'm definitely interested in learning more. And I'm a meatatarian (lol) although I'm learning to like veggies more. I'd love for you to share some of your recipes, if you don't mind? kins -------Original Message------- From: Zoom Date: 04/11/05 14:45:46 Rheumatoid Arthritis Subject: RE: Re: Anemia of Chronic Disease Yeah, the Sense products just got an overhaul so they’re even better I’ve heard. I’ll be able to do more when I have more to spend. <the oil itself is gross tasting> Are you talking about optomega with turmeric, etc.? I take that as well. I like olive oil so the taste isn’t that terrible to me. I’m a vegetarian, so I eat a lot of… well, vegetables, *grin* organics when I can swing it. Ah.. but enough about me! LOL -----Original Message-----From: Dorey [mailto:ddorey@...] Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 3:52 AMRheumatoid Arthritis Subject: Re: Re: Anemia of Chronic Disease I'm very glad you found a quality nutritional.......but I do highly recommend you add the Proflavinol C (to fight inflamation) and the essential fatty acids, try the capsule, the oil itself is gross tasting. And enzymes to help your digestive system wouldn't hurt, unless you are getting lots of organic fruit and veggies and eating them without cooking or adding any preservatives (commercial salad dressing), both these things kill the enzymes. I don't believe the essentials have enzymes added, unless they have changed in the last 3 or 4 years. I love their skin care line (Sensei) and use it. I even have my oldest son using the Sensei skin care and it's been very successful in stopping his acne which was important to my husband and I since my husband has terrible scarring from teenage acne. I have beautiful skin, made better perhaps by this product. Dorey www.LivingWithRheumatoidArthritis.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Zoom Rheumatoid Arthritis Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2005 7:37 PM Subject: RE: Re: Anemia of Chronic Disease Hi , Isn’t Usana great? I’ve seen it do some great things for my sis and myself. Really love usana. I take the vitamin pack (the essentials) and macro-optimizers (fibergy, soyamax, nutimeal)… I had some bars once and loved them. I’m a vegetarian and kind of a health nut (my alter ego is a fruitarian), so I’m used to supplements and drinks, but usana is by far the best I’ve had. Currently, I can’t afford to use more, but plan to in the near future. I started Usana after my sister (who had been trying everything to get pregnant for 7 years) did the cleanse and got pregnant that month. I’ve heard just about everything there is to say about nutrition products, since my father was a body builder and my mother a nutritionist, so I didn’t put much weight to it, until I heard my sis’ experience. Then I knew it was worth a try. I could barely walk. My day was divided up in three hour increments, etc. etc. The day I started the vitamins things started getting better immediately, like a burst of fresh air. Yep. Usana definitely works for me… saved my life, brought ra progression to a virtual standstill. I have significant joint damage and moderate flares… It’s worked as well as I’ve heard any of the other meds have worked for others. If I run out of the essentials I slip backwards, but getting back on them puts me back in a good place. I think I only fall short in pain management. But it hasn’t been a cure and it won’t be. My immune system has always been in overdrive and a patch of uncommonly stressful existence prompted it to protect me into oblivion. It’s been smoldering in the underbrush probably since junior high when I first began experiencing stiffness and pain in my hands… it came out a little bit more in college, when my feet became cardboard in the night… I’ve always been extremely active (walking, running, weight training several times a week on a regular basis) but until I get old enough to get a doctor to go along with joint replacements, it’ll be some time before I can get the sweat I adore with no pain. I get my sweat anyway, but it would be nice to get rid of the pain. I’ve got it in just about every joint but I can function extremely well, and I’m aware of the blessing of time. I’ve got a whole lot of life ahead of me and want any progression to go as slowly as possible. I use one or two forearm crutches for standing or walking… I can’t wait to meet the pill that can convince the thing that is RA to cool its jets. Love/peace Yellow -----Original Message-----From: Dorey [mailto:ddorey@...] Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2005 8:41 PMRheumatoid Arthritis Subject: Re: Re: Anemia of Chronic Disease Hi, you referred to using USANA nutritionals, may I ask exactly what you take each day.......I assume the Essentials, but do you also add proflavinol C, and the eccential fatty acids? I believe the USANA nutritionals are an excellent product. When I took the USANA and had some success, I was taking the Essentials, proflavinol C, essential fatty acids, extra calcium, glucosomine and CoQ10. This combination worked pretty well for me but was still missing the live plant enzymes that I needed. I found that in the summer months when I was eating from the garden I felt pretty good but then once the garden was done something seemed missing, I've since realized it was the live plant enzymes. The proflavinol C is excellent for helping fight inflamation, on bad days I found taking higher doses of just this one product helped alot. What has been your experience? Dorey www.LivingWithRheumatoidArthritis.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Zoom Rheumatoid Arthritis Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2005 4:25 PM Subject: RE: Re: Anemia of Chronic Disease I so agree with Jenni. She said (something like) people will tell you what worked for them and have a tendency to see it as the ultimate solution. Everything seems so clear, then. Sometimes what they have done is their cure, sometimes it coincided with a remission… it’s like feeling the first rush after being forgiven and ‘knowing’ in your soul you’ll never make another mistake… I’m all for nutrition, like I’ve said a bigillion times I use usana nutritionals to stay as healthy as possible and it has lifted me from a terrible place, but I don’t believe nutrition is the cure – at least not in the way we would need. All symptoms have to stop, no fatigue… etc. (you guys remember that email about remission? It has to go further than that.) Proper nutrition supports the immune system, but it doesn’t determine it’s function. The body is waaaay complicated. The immune system is a conundrum, there are hundreds of other immune diseases that plague folk. I would go on the road to tell parents and children about it, if we had a cure for any of them. It’s about acceptance, imo. ‘Cause you can’t see RA, and you hate it and you can’t get your hands around it cause it fluctuates; cause it snuck up on you and knocked you down and there aren’t after school specials dramatizing it, or big stars revealing that they live with it; cause it feels like being old and you’re so dang young; ‘cause your wife says you’re just lazy and people scowl at you when you park in a blue space… the agony of doubt/the question of legitimacy is haunting. We all tend to want it to evaporate… I don’t know. I’d get rid of it in a second. But I’m getting tags and I’m getting a dog and I’m getting my exercise and eating right… I’m gonna live with this, so I can LIVE. I’ll let the researchers find the cure. I’m doing my best along the way. Ugh. I need a vacation I think. lol -----Original Message-----From: Nina [mailto:ncampbell@...] Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2005 6:35 PMRheumatoid Arthritis Subject: Re: Re: Anemia of Chronic Disease ----- Original Message ----- From: Zoom of Chronic Disease > I agree too. The human system is riddled with issues that are inherited or developed and a ‘change’ is not going to propel everyone into the mythical land of physical perfection. Some things are not repairable and some things are not preventable. If wanting to be well again or reading a book would fix it, I'd be the first one in line! Nina Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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