Guest guest Posted November 2, 2011 Report Share Posted November 2, 2011 Tilley, I can very much identify with what you wrote. I kept waiting for IE to 'work' (FOR me) and I wasn't seeing any evidence - on my body - for the longest time (couple of years really). The first thing that I gained from IE was peace with food. I did find my clothes tightening when I legalized which eventually loosened as I stuck with IE. I haven't weighed myself in the last 3 or 4 years but my clothes are more comfortable and even looser than I remember them to be. I have read posts from newer members who noted weight loss for themselves. What they seem to have in common is having applied 'eat only when hungry and just to satisfaction' suggestion quite strictly to themselves. They seem quite happy with that and tend to fade from posting at that point. Once in a while a member will post that they experienced this early on in their IE journey, but it didn't last finding that diet mentality grabbed them again. It seems to me - and this is just my opinion - that if one keeps ones focus on WEIGHT, making it THE factor for measuring if one is successful or 'getting' IE, that will only be a temporary achievement or side track (aka detour) on an IE journey. Yes its undeniable that excess body can be uncomfortable and unhealthy, but if the way to undo that ends up being drastic and temporary does that really correct the condition? I hope you can find YOUR way to tackle your discomfort with your current body and that whatever way works for you in your life. ehugs, Katcha IEing since March 2007 > > ...because I am most definitely not losing weight, and I really need to, yet even the merest thought of eating less fills me with a kind of panic. I know that embracing an Intuitive way of eating is what I absolutely have to do, yet I don't see how it's ever going to move me back to the healthy adult weight I maintained for the first decade of my adult life, and maintained for at least five years after losing a bunch of weight when I finally got over my husband leaving, all without any thought or effort on my part, but I can't even imagine restricting, because I know I can't do it, and I know that it's ultimately counterproductive but I feel like I have to DO something. But what? > > Sigh..... > > Tilley > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 2, 2011 Report Share Posted November 2, 2011 Tilley, I can very much identify with what you wrote. I kept waiting for IE to 'work' (FOR me) and I wasn't seeing any evidence - on my body - for the longest time (couple of years really). The first thing that I gained from IE was peace with food. I did find my clothes tightening when I legalized which eventually loosened as I stuck with IE. I haven't weighed myself in the last 3 or 4 years but my clothes are more comfortable and even looser than I remember them to be. I have read posts from newer members who noted weight loss for themselves. What they seem to have in common is having applied 'eat only when hungry and just to satisfaction' suggestion quite strictly to themselves. They seem quite happy with that and tend to fade from posting at that point. Once in a while a member will post that they experienced this early on in their IE journey, but it didn't last finding that diet mentality grabbed them again. It seems to me - and this is just my opinion - that if one keeps ones focus on WEIGHT, making it THE factor for measuring if one is successful or 'getting' IE, that will only be a temporary achievement or side track (aka detour) on an IE journey. Yes its undeniable that excess body can be uncomfortable and unhealthy, but if the way to undo that ends up being drastic and temporary does that really correct the condition? I hope you can find YOUR way to tackle your discomfort with your current body and that whatever way works for you in your life. ehugs, Katcha IEing since March 2007 > > ...because I am most definitely not losing weight, and I really need to, yet even the merest thought of eating less fills me with a kind of panic. I know that embracing an Intuitive way of eating is what I absolutely have to do, yet I don't see how it's ever going to move me back to the healthy adult weight I maintained for the first decade of my adult life, and maintained for at least five years after losing a bunch of weight when I finally got over my husband leaving, all without any thought or effort on my part, but I can't even imagine restricting, because I know I can't do it, and I know that it's ultimately counterproductive but I feel like I have to DO something. But what? > > Sigh..... > > Tilley > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 2, 2011 Report Share Posted November 2, 2011 Tilley, I can very much identify with what you wrote. I kept waiting for IE to 'work' (FOR me) and I wasn't seeing any evidence - on my body - for the longest time (couple of years really). The first thing that I gained from IE was peace with food. I did find my clothes tightening when I legalized which eventually loosened as I stuck with IE. I haven't weighed myself in the last 3 or 4 years but my clothes are more comfortable and even looser than I remember them to be. I have read posts from newer members who noted weight loss for themselves. What they seem to have in common is having applied 'eat only when hungry and just to satisfaction' suggestion quite strictly to themselves. They seem quite happy with that and tend to fade from posting at that point. Once in a while a member will post that they experienced this early on in their IE journey, but it didn't last finding that diet mentality grabbed them again. It seems to me - and this is just my opinion - that if one keeps ones focus on WEIGHT, making it THE factor for measuring if one is successful or 'getting' IE, that will only be a temporary achievement or side track (aka detour) on an IE journey. Yes its undeniable that excess body can be uncomfortable and unhealthy, but if the way to undo that ends up being drastic and temporary does that really correct the condition? I hope you can find YOUR way to tackle your discomfort with your current body and that whatever way works for you in your life. ehugs, Katcha IEing since March 2007 > > ...because I am most definitely not losing weight, and I really need to, yet even the merest thought of eating less fills me with a kind of panic. I know that embracing an Intuitive way of eating is what I absolutely have to do, yet I don't see how it's ever going to move me back to the healthy adult weight I maintained for the first decade of my adult life, and maintained for at least five years after losing a bunch of weight when I finally got over my husband leaving, all without any thought or effort on my part, but I can't even imagine restricting, because I know I can't do it, and I know that it's ultimately counterproductive but I feel like I have to DO something. But what? > > Sigh..... > > Tilley > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 2, 2011 Report Share Posted November 2, 2011 Tilly, I know where you're coming from. Keep the course. Right now, the thought of eating less may be causing you to eat more because restriction is on the horizon, even if you are not restricting yet. The mind is very powerful and your body is good at getting the message that deprivation may be on the way. I know it's frustrating but I think in order to get past the panic, it's important to not deprive. Like you said earlier, it's perfectly fine to choose healthy options within your framework of preferences, so maybe you want to tweak in this area. It's a tricky line between happily eating nutritious food and doing so because of diet dictates, but it can be done. Also perhaps play around with eating slower in order to fully enjoy your food and really focus on hunger/fullness signals while paying attention to the emotions behind any overeating. You can work through this! Mimi Subject: I need to eat less!To: IntuitiveEating_Support Date: Wednesday, November 2, 2011, 9:02 AM ....because I am most definitely not losing weight, and I really need to, yet even the merest thought of eating less fills me with a kind of panic. I know that embracing an Intuitive way of eating is what I absolutely have to do, yet I don't see how it's ever going to move me back to the healthy adult weight I maintained for the first decade of my adult life, and maintained for at least five years after losing a bunch of weight when I finally got over my husband leaving, all without any thought or effort on my part, but I can't even imagine restricting, because I know I can't do it, and I know that it's ultimately counterproductive but I feel like I have to DO something. But what?Sigh.....Tilley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 2, 2011 Report Share Posted November 2, 2011 Tilly, I know where you're coming from. Keep the course. Right now, the thought of eating less may be causing you to eat more because restriction is on the horizon, even if you are not restricting yet. The mind is very powerful and your body is good at getting the message that deprivation may be on the way. I know it's frustrating but I think in order to get past the panic, it's important to not deprive. Like you said earlier, it's perfectly fine to choose healthy options within your framework of preferences, so maybe you want to tweak in this area. It's a tricky line between happily eating nutritious food and doing so because of diet dictates, but it can be done. Also perhaps play around with eating slower in order to fully enjoy your food and really focus on hunger/fullness signals while paying attention to the emotions behind any overeating. You can work through this! Mimi Subject: I need to eat less!To: IntuitiveEating_Support Date: Wednesday, November 2, 2011, 9:02 AM ....because I am most definitely not losing weight, and I really need to, yet even the merest thought of eating less fills me with a kind of panic. I know that embracing an Intuitive way of eating is what I absolutely have to do, yet I don't see how it's ever going to move me back to the healthy adult weight I maintained for the first decade of my adult life, and maintained for at least five years after losing a bunch of weight when I finally got over my husband leaving, all without any thought or effort on my part, but I can't even imagine restricting, because I know I can't do it, and I know that it's ultimately counterproductive but I feel like I have to DO something. But what?Sigh.....Tilley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 2, 2011 Report Share Posted November 2, 2011 Tilly, I know where you're coming from. Keep the course. Right now, the thought of eating less may be causing you to eat more because restriction is on the horizon, even if you are not restricting yet. The mind is very powerful and your body is good at getting the message that deprivation may be on the way. I know it's frustrating but I think in order to get past the panic, it's important to not deprive. Like you said earlier, it's perfectly fine to choose healthy options within your framework of preferences, so maybe you want to tweak in this area. It's a tricky line between happily eating nutritious food and doing so because of diet dictates, but it can be done. Also perhaps play around with eating slower in order to fully enjoy your food and really focus on hunger/fullness signals while paying attention to the emotions behind any overeating. You can work through this! Mimi Subject: I need to eat less!To: IntuitiveEating_Support Date: Wednesday, November 2, 2011, 9:02 AM ....because I am most definitely not losing weight, and I really need to, yet even the merest thought of eating less fills me with a kind of panic. I know that embracing an Intuitive way of eating is what I absolutely have to do, yet I don't see how it's ever going to move me back to the healthy adult weight I maintained for the first decade of my adult life, and maintained for at least five years after losing a bunch of weight when I finally got over my husband leaving, all without any thought or effort on my part, but I can't even imagine restricting, because I know I can't do it, and I know that it's ultimately counterproductive but I feel like I have to DO something. But what?Sigh.....Tilley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 2, 2011 Report Share Posted November 2, 2011 Good thoughts, Katcha. It's important to look at the whole picture, rather than only one piece of the puzzle -- weight. So hard though since weight issues are often what brings us to IE in the first place. To take the focus off of that and look at food and body in a more holistic way sounds very healthy. Still trying to get there... Mimi Subject: Re: I need to eat less!To: IntuitiveEating_Support Date: Wednesday, November 2, 2011, 11:30 AM Tilley, I can very much identify with what you wrote. I kept waiting for IE to 'work' (FOR me) and I wasn't seeing any evidence - on my body - for the longest time (couple of years really). The first thing that I gained from IE was peace with food. I did find my clothes tightening when I legalized which eventually loosened as I stuck with IE. I haven't weighed myself in the last 3 or 4 years but my clothes are more comfortable and even looser than I remember them to be. I have read posts from newer members who noted weight loss for themselves. What they seem to have in common is having applied 'eat only when hungry and just to satisfaction' suggestion quite strictly to themselves. They seem quite happy with that and tend to fade from posting at that point. Once in a while a member will post that they experienced this early on in their IE journey, but it didn't last finding that diet mentality grabbed them again. It seems to me - and this is just my opinion - that if one keeps ones focus on WEIGHT, making it THE factor for measuring if one is successful or 'getting' IE, that will only be a temporary achievement or side track (aka detour) on an IE journey. Yes its undeniable that excess body can be uncomfortable and unhealthy, but if the way to undo that ends up being drastic and temporary does that really correct the condition? I hope you can find YOUR way to tackle your discomfort with your current body and that whatever way works for you in your life. ehugs, KatchaIEing since March 2007--- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 2, 2011 Report Share Posted November 2, 2011 Good thoughts, Katcha. It's important to look at the whole picture, rather than only one piece of the puzzle -- weight. So hard though since weight issues are often what brings us to IE in the first place. To take the focus off of that and look at food and body in a more holistic way sounds very healthy. Still trying to get there... Mimi Subject: Re: I need to eat less!To: IntuitiveEating_Support Date: Wednesday, November 2, 2011, 11:30 AM Tilley, I can very much identify with what you wrote. I kept waiting for IE to 'work' (FOR me) and I wasn't seeing any evidence - on my body - for the longest time (couple of years really). The first thing that I gained from IE was peace with food. I did find my clothes tightening when I legalized which eventually loosened as I stuck with IE. I haven't weighed myself in the last 3 or 4 years but my clothes are more comfortable and even looser than I remember them to be. I have read posts from newer members who noted weight loss for themselves. What they seem to have in common is having applied 'eat only when hungry and just to satisfaction' suggestion quite strictly to themselves. They seem quite happy with that and tend to fade from posting at that point. Once in a while a member will post that they experienced this early on in their IE journey, but it didn't last finding that diet mentality grabbed them again. It seems to me - and this is just my opinion - that if one keeps ones focus on WEIGHT, making it THE factor for measuring if one is successful or 'getting' IE, that will only be a temporary achievement or side track (aka detour) on an IE journey. Yes its undeniable that excess body can be uncomfortable and unhealthy, but if the way to undo that ends up being drastic and temporary does that really correct the condition? I hope you can find YOUR way to tackle your discomfort with your current body and that whatever way works for you in your life. ehugs, KatchaIEing since March 2007--- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 2, 2011 Report Share Posted November 2, 2011 Good thoughts, Katcha. It's important to look at the whole picture, rather than only one piece of the puzzle -- weight. So hard though since weight issues are often what brings us to IE in the first place. To take the focus off of that and look at food and body in a more holistic way sounds very healthy. Still trying to get there... Mimi Subject: Re: I need to eat less!To: IntuitiveEating_Support Date: Wednesday, November 2, 2011, 11:30 AM Tilley, I can very much identify with what you wrote. I kept waiting for IE to 'work' (FOR me) and I wasn't seeing any evidence - on my body - for the longest time (couple of years really). The first thing that I gained from IE was peace with food. I did find my clothes tightening when I legalized which eventually loosened as I stuck with IE. I haven't weighed myself in the last 3 or 4 years but my clothes are more comfortable and even looser than I remember them to be. I have read posts from newer members who noted weight loss for themselves. What they seem to have in common is having applied 'eat only when hungry and just to satisfaction' suggestion quite strictly to themselves. They seem quite happy with that and tend to fade from posting at that point. Once in a while a member will post that they experienced this early on in their IE journey, but it didn't last finding that diet mentality grabbed them again. It seems to me - and this is just my opinion - that if one keeps ones focus on WEIGHT, making it THE factor for measuring if one is successful or 'getting' IE, that will only be a temporary achievement or side track (aka detour) on an IE journey. Yes its undeniable that excess body can be uncomfortable and unhealthy, but if the way to undo that ends up being drastic and temporary does that really correct the condition? I hope you can find YOUR way to tackle your discomfort with your current body and that whatever way works for you in your life. ehugs, KatchaIEing since March 2007--- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 2, 2011 Report Share Posted November 2, 2011 you will get there Mimi it takes time IE is a lifetime process and even those of us who have been doing IE for a while have a hard time still that is why we need support Eva Good thoughts, Katcha. It's important to look at the whole picture, rather than only one piece of the puzzle -- weight. So hard though since weight issues are often what brings us to IE in the first place. To take the focus off of that and look at food and body in a more holistic way sounds very healthy. Still trying to get there... Mimi Subject: Re: I need to eat less!To: IntuitiveEating_Support Date: Wednesday, November 2, 2011, 11:30 AM Tilley, I can very much identify with what you wrote. I kept waiting for IE to 'work' (FOR me) and I wasn't seeing any evidence - on my body - for the longest time (couple of years really). The first thing that I gained from IE was peace with food. I did find my clothes tightening when I legalized which eventually loosened as I stuck with IE. I haven't weighed myself in the last 3 or 4 years but my clothes are more comfortable and even looser than I remember them to be. I have read posts from newer members who noted weight loss for themselves. What they seem to have in common is having applied 'eat only when hungry and just to satisfaction' suggestion quite strictly to themselves. They seem quite happy with that and tend to fade from posting at that point. Once in a while a member will post that they experienced this early on in their IE journey, but it didn't last finding that diet mentality grabbed them again. It seems to me - and this is just my opinion - that if one keeps ones focus on WEIGHT, making it THE factor for measuring if one is successful or 'getting' IE, that will only be a temporary achievement or side track (aka detour) on an IE journey. Yes its undeniable that excess body can be uncomfortable and unhealthy, but if the way to undo that ends up being drastic and temporary does that really correct the condition? I hope you can find YOUR way to tackle your discomfort with your current body and that whatever way works for you in your life. ehugs, KatchaIEing since March 2007--- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 2, 2011 Report Share Posted November 2, 2011 Thanks, guys-- I think I'm really not at all inclined to go the restriction route; I'm just discouraged is all, and feeling fat. I am vastly encouraged hearing about the experiences of people who have been doing this a long time. I really don't want to think about food at all..... I'm also experiencing a lot of stress right now (surprise surprise), so maybe I should be as kind and patient with myself as I would be with my friends..... Tilley I don't think I'm going to go towards restriction. I really really want > > > > Subject: I need to eat less! > To: IntuitiveEating_Support > Date: Wednesday, November 2, 2011, 9:02 AM > > > > Â > > > > ...because I am most definitely not losing weight, and I really need to, yet even the merest thought of eating less fills me with a kind of panic. I know that embracing an Intuitive way of eating is what I absolutely have to do, yet I don't see how it's ever going to move me back to the healthy adult weight I maintained for the first decade of my adult life, and maintained for at least five years after losing a bunch of weight when I finally got over my husband leaving, all without any thought or effort on my part, but I can't even imagine restricting, because I know I can't do it, and I know that it's ultimately counterproductive but I feel like I have to DO something. But what? > > Sigh..... > > Tilley > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 2, 2011 Report Share Posted November 2, 2011 Tilley, Don't underestimate the power of stress to make you suddenly feel fat! Perhaps the focus on weight when stressed in the past is a coping mechanism, strange as it seems, that no longer works well for you? The reason I suggest this is that one's feeling of being fat or thin can change daily, whereas weight changes much more slowly. Maybe focusing on self care during this stressful time, and tabling weight concerns for the moment instead of adding them to your heavy load, will have the pleasant side effect of lessening the weight concerns also? Does this resonate at all? I hope you will try it. A little self care never hurt, regardless. Best, Abby  you will get there Mimi it takes time IE is a lifetime process and even those of us who have been doing IE for a while have a hard time still that is why we need support  Eva  Good thoughts, Katcha. It's important to look at the whole picture, rather than only one piece of the puzzle -- weight. So hard though since weight issues are often what brings us to IE in the first place. To take the focus off of that and look at food and body in a more holistic way sounds very healthy. Still trying to get there...  Mimi Subject: Re: I need to eat less!To: IntuitiveEating_Support Date: Wednesday, November 2, 2011, 11:30 AM  Tilley, I can very much identify with what you wrote. I kept waiting for IE to 'work' (FOR me) and I wasn't seeing any evidence - on my body - for the longest time (couple of years really). The first thing that I gained from IE was peace with food. I did find my clothes tightening when I legalized which eventually loosened as I stuck with IE. I haven't weighed myself in the last 3 or 4 years but my clothes are more comfortable and even looser than I remember them to be. I have read posts from newer members who noted weight loss for themselves. What they seem to have in common is having applied 'eat only when hungry and just to satisfaction' suggestion quite strictly to themselves. They seem quite happy with that and tend to fade from posting at that point. Once in a while a member will post that they experienced this early on in their IE journey, but it didn't last finding that diet mentality grabbed them again. It seems to me - and this is just my opinion - that if one keeps ones focus on WEIGHT, making it THE factor for measuring if one is successful or 'getting' IE, that will only be a temporary achievement or side track (aka detour) on an IE journey. Yes its undeniable that excess body can be uncomfortable and unhealthy, but if the way to undo that ends up being drastic and temporary does that really correct the condition? I hope you can find YOUR way to tackle your discomfort with your current body and that whatever way works for you in your life. ehugs, KatchaIEing since March 2007--- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 2, 2011 Report Share Posted November 2, 2011 Isn't it wild that while I have been following the IE path for over 4 years now, that could sound like a 'long time' . . . YET, I have had diet mentality for many many more years (probably 35+?!?) than that 'long time'. LOL :-) Its also a hoot of a paradox to me that when I was a newbie with IE I so wanted to read about others IEers who had been at it a 'long time' (over a few months and dare I dream for more than a year? ;-). But then the other side of that has to be . . . If someone has been 'doing IE' for a long time and still feels like they have 'off times' - how reassuring is that? (giggles and yes its true - long termers need support too.) GOOD POINT Eva (ehugs to you too). Katcha IEing since March 2007 > > > > > Subject: Re: I need to eat less! > To: IntuitiveEating_Support > Date: Wednesday, November 2, 2011, 11:30 AM > > > > > Tilley, I can very much identify with what you wrote. I kept waiting for > IE to 'work' (FOR me) and I wasn't seeing any evidence - on my body - for > the longest time (couple of years really). The first thing that I gained from > IE was peace with food. I did find my clothes tightening when I legalized > which eventually loosened as I stuck with IE. I haven't weighed myself in > the last 3 or 4 years but my clothes are more comfortable and even looser > than I remember them to be. > > I have read posts from newer members who noted weight loss for themselves. > What they seem to have in common is having applied 'eat only when hungry > and just to satisfaction' suggestion quite strictly to themselves. They seem > quite happy with that and tend to fade from posting at that point. Once in > a while a member will post that they experienced this early on in their IE > journey, but it didn't last finding that diet mentality grabbed them > again. > > It seems to me - and this is just my opinion - that if one keeps ones > focus on WEIGHT, making it THE factor for measuring if one is successful or > 'getting' IE, that will only be a temporary achievement or side track (aka > detour) on an IE journey. Yes its undeniable that excess body can be > uncomfortable and unhealthy, but if the way to undo that ends up being drastic and > temporary does that really correct the condition? > > I hope you can find YOUR way to tackle your discomfort with your current > body and that whatever way works for you in your life. > > ehugs, Katcha > IEing since March 2007 > > --- > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 2, 2011 Report Share Posted November 2, 2011 Isn't it wild that while I have been following the IE path for over 4 years now, that could sound like a 'long time' . . . YET, I have had diet mentality for many many more years (probably 35+?!?) than that 'long time'. LOL :-) Its also a hoot of a paradox to me that when I was a newbie with IE I so wanted to read about others IEers who had been at it a 'long time' (over a few months and dare I dream for more than a year? ;-). But then the other side of that has to be . . . If someone has been 'doing IE' for a long time and still feels like they have 'off times' - how reassuring is that? (giggles and yes its true - long termers need support too.) GOOD POINT Eva (ehugs to you too). Katcha IEing since March 2007 > > > > > Subject: Re: I need to eat less! > To: IntuitiveEating_Support > Date: Wednesday, November 2, 2011, 11:30 AM > > > > > Tilley, I can very much identify with what you wrote. I kept waiting for > IE to 'work' (FOR me) and I wasn't seeing any evidence - on my body - for > the longest time (couple of years really). The first thing that I gained from > IE was peace with food. I did find my clothes tightening when I legalized > which eventually loosened as I stuck with IE. I haven't weighed myself in > the last 3 or 4 years but my clothes are more comfortable and even looser > than I remember them to be. > > I have read posts from newer members who noted weight loss for themselves. > What they seem to have in common is having applied 'eat only when hungry > and just to satisfaction' suggestion quite strictly to themselves. They seem > quite happy with that and tend to fade from posting at that point. Once in > a while a member will post that they experienced this early on in their IE > journey, but it didn't last finding that diet mentality grabbed them > again. > > It seems to me - and this is just my opinion - that if one keeps ones > focus on WEIGHT, making it THE factor for measuring if one is successful or > 'getting' IE, that will only be a temporary achievement or side track (aka > detour) on an IE journey. Yes its undeniable that excess body can be > uncomfortable and unhealthy, but if the way to undo that ends up being drastic and > temporary does that really correct the condition? > > I hope you can find YOUR way to tackle your discomfort with your current > body and that whatever way works for you in your life. > > ehugs, Katcha > IEing since March 2007 > > --- > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 2, 2011 Report Share Posted November 2, 2011 And I think you are doing pretty dang good too Jane! Funny that you used puzzle as metaphor (?) - early on with IE I posted how the whole process seemed like a big jigsaw puzzle to me - borders first, like colored sections worked on for a while and then little bits and pieces filled in between. There isn't any ONE sequence of placement for the pieces - each person will work that puzzle in their own way. Some will never finish and a few will work non stop until the 'picture' is complete. And then there's the thought that we may also be working without a good picture to work from to begin with. The best way for me was to remember its a FUN process if one allows it to be. ehugs, Katcha IEing since March 2007 > > Good thoughts, Katcha. It's important to look at the whole picture, rather than only one piece of the puzzle -- weight. So hard though since weight issues are often what brings us to IE in the first place. To take the focus off of that and look at food and body in a more holistic way sounds very healthy. Still trying to get there... > > Mimi > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 2, 2011 Report Share Posted November 2, 2011 And I think you are doing pretty dang good too Jane! Funny that you used puzzle as metaphor (?) - early on with IE I posted how the whole process seemed like a big jigsaw puzzle to me - borders first, like colored sections worked on for a while and then little bits and pieces filled in between. There isn't any ONE sequence of placement for the pieces - each person will work that puzzle in their own way. Some will never finish and a few will work non stop until the 'picture' is complete. And then there's the thought that we may also be working without a good picture to work from to begin with. The best way for me was to remember its a FUN process if one allows it to be. ehugs, Katcha IEing since March 2007 > > Good thoughts, Katcha. It's important to look at the whole picture, rather than only one piece of the puzzle -- weight. So hard though since weight issues are often what brings us to IE in the first place. To take the focus off of that and look at food and body in a more holistic way sounds very healthy. Still trying to get there... > > Mimi > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 3, 2011 Report Share Posted November 3, 2011 Tilley, I struggled with IE for two and a half years before I finally " got it " and suddenly dropped to my natural weight, and with winter blues coming on and other stressors, sometimes it's difficult to listen to my body when I'd rather. I binge. It took me a long time to legalize food and learn to focus on handling emotions instead of seeing this as a food problem. I also had some physical triggers for binging like low-blood sugar and nutrient deficiencies. There may be reasons that you haven't lost weight yet. Sometimes it takes awhile to " get it " because we can't shed the diet mentality or because physical or emotional factors prevent us from listening. After we take care of those things, it comes down to choice. Instead of thinking " I need to eat less " I would think " I choose to listen to my body " . This thought alone has stopped me mid-munching because it grounds me in my body. Sorry, this is kind of a rambling post, but your frustration just feels so familiar! I hope some of this helps! McKella > > ...because I am most definitely not losing weight, and I really need to, yet even the merest thought of eating less fills me with a kind of panic. I know that embracing an Intuitive way of eating is what I absolutely have to do, yet I don't see how it's ever going to move me back to the healthy adult weight I maintained for the first decade of my adult life, and maintained for at least five years after losing a bunch of weight when I finally got over my husband leaving, all without any thought or effort on my part, but I can't even imagine restricting, because I know I can't do it, and I know that it's ultimately counterproductive but I feel like I have to DO something. But what? > > Sigh..... > > Tilley > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 3, 2011 Report Share Posted November 3, 2011 Tilley, I struggled with IE for two and a half years before I finally " got it " and suddenly dropped to my natural weight, and with winter blues coming on and other stressors, sometimes it's difficult to listen to my body when I'd rather. I binge. It took me a long time to legalize food and learn to focus on handling emotions instead of seeing this as a food problem. I also had some physical triggers for binging like low-blood sugar and nutrient deficiencies. There may be reasons that you haven't lost weight yet. Sometimes it takes awhile to " get it " because we can't shed the diet mentality or because physical or emotional factors prevent us from listening. After we take care of those things, it comes down to choice. Instead of thinking " I need to eat less " I would think " I choose to listen to my body " . This thought alone has stopped me mid-munching because it grounds me in my body. Sorry, this is kind of a rambling post, but your frustration just feels so familiar! I hope some of this helps! McKella > > ...because I am most definitely not losing weight, and I really need to, yet even the merest thought of eating less fills me with a kind of panic. I know that embracing an Intuitive way of eating is what I absolutely have to do, yet I don't see how it's ever going to move me back to the healthy adult weight I maintained for the first decade of my adult life, and maintained for at least five years after losing a bunch of weight when I finally got over my husband leaving, all without any thought or effort on my part, but I can't even imagine restricting, because I know I can't do it, and I know that it's ultimately counterproductive but I feel like I have to DO something. But what? > > Sigh..... > > Tilley > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 3, 2011 Report Share Posted November 3, 2011 Tilley, I struggled with IE for two and a half years before I finally " got it " and suddenly dropped to my natural weight, and with winter blues coming on and other stressors, sometimes it's difficult to listen to my body when I'd rather. I binge. It took me a long time to legalize food and learn to focus on handling emotions instead of seeing this as a food problem. I also had some physical triggers for binging like low-blood sugar and nutrient deficiencies. There may be reasons that you haven't lost weight yet. Sometimes it takes awhile to " get it " because we can't shed the diet mentality or because physical or emotional factors prevent us from listening. After we take care of those things, it comes down to choice. Instead of thinking " I need to eat less " I would think " I choose to listen to my body " . This thought alone has stopped me mid-munching because it grounds me in my body. Sorry, this is kind of a rambling post, but your frustration just feels so familiar! I hope some of this helps! McKella > > ...because I am most definitely not losing weight, and I really need to, yet even the merest thought of eating less fills me with a kind of panic. I know that embracing an Intuitive way of eating is what I absolutely have to do, yet I don't see how it's ever going to move me back to the healthy adult weight I maintained for the first decade of my adult life, and maintained for at least five years after losing a bunch of weight when I finally got over my husband leaving, all without any thought or effort on my part, but I can't even imagine restricting, because I know I can't do it, and I know that it's ultimately counterproductive but I feel like I have to DO something. But what? > > Sigh..... > > Tilley > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 3, 2011 Report Share Posted November 3, 2011 Fabulous post McKella and point on too. Gillian told me that one day it just wouldn't make sense to overeat. I had my severe doubts but danged if she wasn't right - double wow when that happens! Its so pays to just hang in and allow changes to occur when they do. Katcha IEing since March 2007 > > Tilley, I struggled with IE for two and a half years before I finally " got it " and suddenly dropped to my natural weight, and with winter blues coming on and other stressors, sometimes it's difficult to listen to my body when I'd rather. I binge. It took me a long time to legalize food and learn to focus on handling emotions instead of seeing this as a food problem. I also had some physical triggers for binging like low-blood sugar and nutrient deficiencies. There may be reasons that you haven't lost weight yet. Sometimes it takes awhile to " get it " because we can't shed the diet mentality or because physical or emotional factors prevent us from listening. After we take care of those things, it comes down to choice. Instead of thinking " I need to eat less " I would think " I choose to listen to my body " . This thought alone has stopped me mid-munching because it grounds me in my body. > Sorry, this is kind of a rambling post, but your frustration just feels so familiar! I hope some of this helps! > McKella Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 3, 2011 Report Share Posted November 3, 2011 Fabulous post McKella and point on too. Gillian told me that one day it just wouldn't make sense to overeat. I had my severe doubts but danged if she wasn't right - double wow when that happens! Its so pays to just hang in and allow changes to occur when they do. Katcha IEing since March 2007 > > Tilley, I struggled with IE for two and a half years before I finally " got it " and suddenly dropped to my natural weight, and with winter blues coming on and other stressors, sometimes it's difficult to listen to my body when I'd rather. I binge. It took me a long time to legalize food and learn to focus on handling emotions instead of seeing this as a food problem. I also had some physical triggers for binging like low-blood sugar and nutrient deficiencies. There may be reasons that you haven't lost weight yet. Sometimes it takes awhile to " get it " because we can't shed the diet mentality or because physical or emotional factors prevent us from listening. After we take care of those things, it comes down to choice. Instead of thinking " I need to eat less " I would think " I choose to listen to my body " . This thought alone has stopped me mid-munching because it grounds me in my body. > Sorry, this is kind of a rambling post, but your frustration just feels so familiar! I hope some of this helps! > McKella Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 3, 2011 Report Share Posted November 3, 2011 Fabulous post McKella and point on too. Gillian told me that one day it just wouldn't make sense to overeat. I had my severe doubts but danged if she wasn't right - double wow when that happens! Its so pays to just hang in and allow changes to occur when they do. Katcha IEing since March 2007 > > Tilley, I struggled with IE for two and a half years before I finally " got it " and suddenly dropped to my natural weight, and with winter blues coming on and other stressors, sometimes it's difficult to listen to my body when I'd rather. I binge. It took me a long time to legalize food and learn to focus on handling emotions instead of seeing this as a food problem. I also had some physical triggers for binging like low-blood sugar and nutrient deficiencies. There may be reasons that you haven't lost weight yet. Sometimes it takes awhile to " get it " because we can't shed the diet mentality or because physical or emotional factors prevent us from listening. After we take care of those things, it comes down to choice. Instead of thinking " I need to eat less " I would think " I choose to listen to my body " . This thought alone has stopped me mid-munching because it grounds me in my body. > Sorry, this is kind of a rambling post, but your frustration just feels so familiar! I hope some of this helps! > McKella Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 3, 2011 Report Share Posted November 3, 2011 Thank you, thank you--this is just what I need to hear. I was thinking this morning about my vision for myself in the future, and it most definitely does not include dieting, or even thinking about food all the time. I want to be making music, and making art, and gardening, and taking my dog running in the woods, and sharing meals with family and friends, and nowhere in there is obsessing about food. So it's really good to hear that even though I may be struggling now, that I may come to the point where I " get it " . It makes so much sense to me to listen to my body, and I can tell how stress interferes with that. Also this morning, while I was walking my dog-- of my favorite times of day--I was thinking about how I really need to find a yoga class. I have been wanting to start doing yoga again, because of how it really helps me connect with my body, but I haven't been able to get around to doing it on my own, and a class might help. I would also probably benefit from meditating as well, though running used to be my meditation, and since I can't run any more because of my heels I'm really missing it. My stress mostly has to do with my son who is floundering at the moment, and while there are some definite things I can do to help, much of it is out of my control, and I just have to let him be. He's 19, and needs to be doing things for himself. Sigh. But I really do have a vision of myself as a healthy person, and I will keep listening, as best I can. Thanks again. Tilley > > > > ...because I am most definitely not losing weight, and I really need to, yet even the merest thought of eating less fills me with a kind of panic. I know that embracing an Intuitive way of eating is what I absolutely have to do, yet I don't see how it's ever going to move me back to the healthy adult weight I maintained for the first decade of my adult life, and maintained for at least five years after losing a bunch of weight when I finally got over my husband leaving, all without any thought or effort on my part, but I can't even imagine restricting, because I know I can't do it, and I know that it's ultimately counterproductive but I feel like I have to DO something. But what? > > > > Sigh..... > > > > Tilley > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 3, 2011 Report Share Posted November 3, 2011 "Gillian told me that one day it just wouldn't make sense to overeat." This is how my husband eats. He never lost his intuitive eating skills and sometimes I just marvel at how natural it all is for him. Eating for him is not connected to any type of emotion besides those having to do with enjoyment of food. He eats when he's hungry and will often get occupied in a project and forget to eat altogether. I've never heard him chastising himself about food or expressing guilt over what or how much he's eaten. That would be like getting angry for needing to use the bathroom or being tired. Last night we went out to eat and he overate a bit. All he said was, "wow, I'm full." What that means is that he ate past the point he usually does, which is satisfied but not full. So I know that today he will eat less. Not because he feels he has to, but because he will naturally feel less hunger. If he actually knew what he was doing, I would ask him to teach me. LOL. Mimi Subject: Re: I need to eat less!To: IntuitiveEating_Support Date: Thursday, November 3, 2011, 10:12 AM Fabulous post McKella and point on too. Gillian told me that one day it just wouldn't make sense to overeat. I had my severe doubts but danged if she wasn't right - double wow when that happens! Its so pays to just hang in and allow changes to occur when they do.KatchaIEing since March 2007 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 3, 2011 Report Share Posted November 3, 2011 "Gillian told me that one day it just wouldn't make sense to overeat." This is how my husband eats. He never lost his intuitive eating skills and sometimes I just marvel at how natural it all is for him. Eating for him is not connected to any type of emotion besides those having to do with enjoyment of food. He eats when he's hungry and will often get occupied in a project and forget to eat altogether. I've never heard him chastising himself about food or expressing guilt over what or how much he's eaten. That would be like getting angry for needing to use the bathroom or being tired. Last night we went out to eat and he overate a bit. All he said was, "wow, I'm full." What that means is that he ate past the point he usually does, which is satisfied but not full. So I know that today he will eat less. Not because he feels he has to, but because he will naturally feel less hunger. If he actually knew what he was doing, I would ask him to teach me. LOL. Mimi Subject: Re: I need to eat less!To: IntuitiveEating_Support Date: Thursday, November 3, 2011, 10:12 AM Fabulous post McKella and point on too. Gillian told me that one day it just wouldn't make sense to overeat. I had my severe doubts but danged if she wasn't right - double wow when that happens! Its so pays to just hang in and allow changes to occur when they do.KatchaIEing since March 2007 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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