Guest guest Posted November 3, 2011 Report Share Posted November 3, 2011 "Gillian told me that one day it just wouldn't make sense to overeat." This is how my husband eats. He never lost his intuitive eating skills and sometimes I just marvel at how natural it all is for him. Eating for him is not connected to any type of emotion besides those having to do with enjoyment of food. He eats when he's hungry and will often get occupied in a project and forget to eat altogether. I've never heard him chastising himself about food or expressing guilt over what or how much he's eaten. That would be like getting angry for needing to use the bathroom or being tired. Last night we went out to eat and he overate a bit. All he said was, "wow, I'm full." What that means is that he ate past the point he usually does, which is satisfied but not full. So I know that today he will eat less. Not because he feels he has to, but because he will naturally feel less hunger. If he actually knew what he was doing, I would ask him to teach me. LOL. Mimi Subject: Re: I need to eat less!To: IntuitiveEating_Support Date: Thursday, November 3, 2011, 10:12 AM Fabulous post McKella and point on too. Gillian told me that one day it just wouldn't make sense to overeat. I had my severe doubts but danged if she wasn't right - double wow when that happens! Its so pays to just hang in and allow changes to occur when they do.KatchaIEing since March 2007 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 3, 2011 Report Share Posted November 3, 2011 "I want to be making music, and making art, and gardening, and taking my dog running in the woods, and sharing meals with family and friends, and nowhere in there is obsessing about food. So it's really good to hear that even though I may be struggling now, that I may come to the point where I "get it"." Very nice vision for yourself, Tilly. And you will get there! I hope to as well. I like the idea of having a vision for ourselves, all while accepting who we are in this moment and trusting the process to take us there in its own good time. My vision is to make a home for myself and my husband on our new homestead, to make most of my own food and beauty/cleaning products, to have and nurture several animals, and to enjoy my life free from obsession about weight or food. Mimi Subject: Re: I need to eat less!To: IntuitiveEating_Support Date: Thursday, November 3, 2011, 12:39 PM Thank you, thank you--this is just what I need to hear.I was thinking this morning about my vision for myself in the future, and it most definitely does not include dieting, or even thinking about food all the time. I want to be making music, and making art, and gardening, and taking my dog running in the woods, and sharing meals with family and friends, and nowhere in there is obsessing about food. So it's really good to hear that even though I may be struggling now, that I may come to the point where I "get it". It makes so much sense to me to listen to my body, and I can tell how stress interferes with that. Also this morning, while I was walking my dog-- of my favorite times of day--I was thinking about how I really need to find a yoga class. I have been wanting to start doing yoga again, because of how it really helps me connect with my body, but I haven't been able to get around to doing it on my own, and a class might help. I would also probably benefit from meditating as well, though running used to be my meditation, and since I can't run any more because of my heels I'm really missing it. My stress mostly has to do with my son who is floundering at the moment, and while there are some definite things I can do to help, much of it is out of my control, and I just have to let him be. He's 19, and needs to be doing things for himself. Sigh.But I really do have a vision of myself as a healthy person, and I will keep listening, as best I can.Thanks again.Tilley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 3, 2011 Report Share Posted November 3, 2011 "I want to be making music, and making art, and gardening, and taking my dog running in the woods, and sharing meals with family and friends, and nowhere in there is obsessing about food. So it's really good to hear that even though I may be struggling now, that I may come to the point where I "get it"." Very nice vision for yourself, Tilly. And you will get there! I hope to as well. I like the idea of having a vision for ourselves, all while accepting who we are in this moment and trusting the process to take us there in its own good time. My vision is to make a home for myself and my husband on our new homestead, to make most of my own food and beauty/cleaning products, to have and nurture several animals, and to enjoy my life free from obsession about weight or food. Mimi Subject: Re: I need to eat less!To: IntuitiveEating_Support Date: Thursday, November 3, 2011, 12:39 PM Thank you, thank you--this is just what I need to hear.I was thinking this morning about my vision for myself in the future, and it most definitely does not include dieting, or even thinking about food all the time. I want to be making music, and making art, and gardening, and taking my dog running in the woods, and sharing meals with family and friends, and nowhere in there is obsessing about food. So it's really good to hear that even though I may be struggling now, that I may come to the point where I "get it". It makes so much sense to me to listen to my body, and I can tell how stress interferes with that. Also this morning, while I was walking my dog-- of my favorite times of day--I was thinking about how I really need to find a yoga class. I have been wanting to start doing yoga again, because of how it really helps me connect with my body, but I haven't been able to get around to doing it on my own, and a class might help. I would also probably benefit from meditating as well, though running used to be my meditation, and since I can't run any more because of my heels I'm really missing it. My stress mostly has to do with my son who is floundering at the moment, and while there are some definite things I can do to help, much of it is out of my control, and I just have to let him be. He's 19, and needs to be doing things for himself. Sigh.But I really do have a vision of myself as a healthy person, and I will keep listening, as best I can.Thanks again.Tilley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 3, 2011 Report Share Posted November 3, 2011 "I want to be making music, and making art, and gardening, and taking my dog running in the woods, and sharing meals with family and friends, and nowhere in there is obsessing about food. So it's really good to hear that even though I may be struggling now, that I may come to the point where I "get it"." Very nice vision for yourself, Tilly. And you will get there! I hope to as well. I like the idea of having a vision for ourselves, all while accepting who we are in this moment and trusting the process to take us there in its own good time. My vision is to make a home for myself and my husband on our new homestead, to make most of my own food and beauty/cleaning products, to have and nurture several animals, and to enjoy my life free from obsession about weight or food. Mimi Subject: Re: I need to eat less!To: IntuitiveEating_Support Date: Thursday, November 3, 2011, 12:39 PM Thank you, thank you--this is just what I need to hear.I was thinking this morning about my vision for myself in the future, and it most definitely does not include dieting, or even thinking about food all the time. I want to be making music, and making art, and gardening, and taking my dog running in the woods, and sharing meals with family and friends, and nowhere in there is obsessing about food. So it's really good to hear that even though I may be struggling now, that I may come to the point where I "get it". It makes so much sense to me to listen to my body, and I can tell how stress interferes with that. Also this morning, while I was walking my dog-- of my favorite times of day--I was thinking about how I really need to find a yoga class. I have been wanting to start doing yoga again, because of how it really helps me connect with my body, but I haven't been able to get around to doing it on my own, and a class might help. I would also probably benefit from meditating as well, though running used to be my meditation, and since I can't run any more because of my heels I'm really missing it. My stress mostly has to do with my son who is floundering at the moment, and while there are some definite things I can do to help, much of it is out of my control, and I just have to let him be. He's 19, and needs to be doing things for himself. Sigh.But I really do have a vision of myself as a healthy person, and I will keep listening, as best I can.Thanks again.Tilley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 3, 2011 Report Share Posted November 3, 2011 I like this last bit a lot, " It so pays to just hang in and allow changes to occur when they do. " I'd just read something a bit earlier and thought " oh, I'll do that! " - meaning I was going to impose a rule on myself. I think - and I don't yet know - that things unfold naturally as long as one stays with the IE intent. I am going through shifts and changes and know that I'm making progress. But it isn't the kind of progress I would have if I'd been on a diet since August. (Which I would have been off of by now anyway, but that's a different story.) And so progess unfolds - and does so along an unpredictable path no doubt according to our individual " issues " , histories, bio chemistry, etc. But - most importantly - it does appear to keep unfolding. Each day is a new day and for me every week there's some kind of shift in my perception, my understanding, my ability to stay more true to myself. Sandarah > > > > Tilley, I struggled with IE for two and a half years before I finally " got it " and suddenly dropped to my natural weight, and with winter blues coming on and other stressors, sometimes it's difficult to listen to my body when I'd rather. I binge. It took me a long time to legalize food and learn to focus on handling emotions instead of seeing this as a food problem. I also had some physical triggers for binging like low-blood sugar and nutrient deficiencies. There may be reasons that you haven't lost weight yet. Sometimes it takes awhile to " get it " because we can't shed the diet mentality or because physical or emotional factors prevent us from listening. After we take care of those things, it comes down to choice. Instead of thinking " I need to eat less " I would think " I choose to listen to my body " . This thought alone has stopped me mid-munching because it grounds me in my body. > > Sorry, this is kind of a rambling post, but your frustration just feels so familiar! I hope some of this helps! > > McKella > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 3, 2011 Report Share Posted November 3, 2011 I like this last bit a lot, " It so pays to just hang in and allow changes to occur when they do. " I'd just read something a bit earlier and thought " oh, I'll do that! " - meaning I was going to impose a rule on myself. I think - and I don't yet know - that things unfold naturally as long as one stays with the IE intent. I am going through shifts and changes and know that I'm making progress. But it isn't the kind of progress I would have if I'd been on a diet since August. (Which I would have been off of by now anyway, but that's a different story.) And so progess unfolds - and does so along an unpredictable path no doubt according to our individual " issues " , histories, bio chemistry, etc. But - most importantly - it does appear to keep unfolding. Each day is a new day and for me every week there's some kind of shift in my perception, my understanding, my ability to stay more true to myself. Sandarah > > > > Tilley, I struggled with IE for two and a half years before I finally " got it " and suddenly dropped to my natural weight, and with winter blues coming on and other stressors, sometimes it's difficult to listen to my body when I'd rather. I binge. It took me a long time to legalize food and learn to focus on handling emotions instead of seeing this as a food problem. I also had some physical triggers for binging like low-blood sugar and nutrient deficiencies. There may be reasons that you haven't lost weight yet. Sometimes it takes awhile to " get it " because we can't shed the diet mentality or because physical or emotional factors prevent us from listening. After we take care of those things, it comes down to choice. Instead of thinking " I need to eat less " I would think " I choose to listen to my body " . This thought alone has stopped me mid-munching because it grounds me in my body. > > Sorry, this is kind of a rambling post, but your frustration just feels so familiar! I hope some of this helps! > > McKella > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 3, 2011 Report Share Posted November 3, 2011 I like this last bit a lot, " It so pays to just hang in and allow changes to occur when they do. " I'd just read something a bit earlier and thought " oh, I'll do that! " - meaning I was going to impose a rule on myself. I think - and I don't yet know - that things unfold naturally as long as one stays with the IE intent. I am going through shifts and changes and know that I'm making progress. But it isn't the kind of progress I would have if I'd been on a diet since August. (Which I would have been off of by now anyway, but that's a different story.) And so progess unfolds - and does so along an unpredictable path no doubt according to our individual " issues " , histories, bio chemistry, etc. But - most importantly - it does appear to keep unfolding. Each day is a new day and for me every week there's some kind of shift in my perception, my understanding, my ability to stay more true to myself. Sandarah > > > > Tilley, I struggled with IE for two and a half years before I finally " got it " and suddenly dropped to my natural weight, and with winter blues coming on and other stressors, sometimes it's difficult to listen to my body when I'd rather. I binge. It took me a long time to legalize food and learn to focus on handling emotions instead of seeing this as a food problem. I also had some physical triggers for binging like low-blood sugar and nutrient deficiencies. There may be reasons that you haven't lost weight yet. Sometimes it takes awhile to " get it " because we can't shed the diet mentality or because physical or emotional factors prevent us from listening. After we take care of those things, it comes down to choice. Instead of thinking " I need to eat less " I would think " I choose to listen to my body " . This thought alone has stopped me mid-munching because it grounds me in my body. > > Sorry, this is kind of a rambling post, but your frustration just feels so familiar! I hope some of this helps! > > McKella > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 3, 2011 Report Share Posted November 3, 2011 Got to jump in here too... RE, " I want to be making music, and making art, and gardening, and taking my dog running in the woods, and sharing meals with family and friends, and nowhere in there is obsessing about food. " Last night I called a friend to talk about this yearning I'm feeling lately and my desire to do my life differently. She launched into an entirely different direction than I was thinking and started on about how she wanted to clean her house more, get new snow tires... on and on. The rest of the conversation spun out into complaints about work and the work place. It took me until this morning to realize, " she just doesn't get it " . Returning to my dreams and learning to honor my true self is definitely part of the journey for me. I'm not there yet, but I know that part of my eating comes from being unfulfilled in my soul. My work is dead to me - and yet it's what I do day in and day out. I'm not quite sure what my dream is and haven't yet dug it out of stasis. But it's a work in progress - and definitely has nothing to do with cleaning my house more often. Sandarah " IntuitiveEating_Support , " tilley200 " wrote: > > > Thank you, thank you--this is just what I need to hear. > > I was thinking this morning about my vision for myself in the future, and it most definitely does not include dieting, or even thinking about food all the time. I want to be making music, and making art, and gardening, and taking my dog running in the woods, and sharing meals with family and friends, and nowhere in there is obsessing about food. So it's really good to hear that even though I may be struggling now, that I may come to the point where I " get it " . > > It makes so much sense to me to listen to my body, and I can tell how stress interferes with that. Also this morning, while I was walking my dog-- of my favorite times of day--I was thinking about how I really need to find a yoga class. I have been wanting to start doing yoga again, because of how it really helps me connect with my body, but I haven't been able to get around to doing it on my own, and a class might help. I would also probably benefit from meditating as well, though running used to be my meditation, and since I can't run any more because of my heels I'm really missing it. My stress mostly has to do with my son who is floundering at the moment, and while there are some definite things I can do to help, much of it is out of my control, and I just have to let him be. He's 19, and needs to be doing things for himself. Sigh. > > But I really do have a vision of myself as a healthy person, and I will keep listening, as best I can. > > Thanks again. > > Tilley > > > > > > > ...because I am most definitely not losing weight, and I really need to, yet even the merest thought of eating less fills me with a kind of panic. I know that embracing an Intuitive way of eating is what I absolutely have to do, yet I don't see how it's ever going to move me back to the healthy adult weight I maintained for the first decade of my adult life, and maintained for at least five years after losing a bunch of weight when I finally got over my husband leaving, all without any thought or effort on my part, but I can't even imagine restricting, because I know I can't do it, and I know that it's ultimately counterproductive but I feel like I have to DO something. But what? > > > > > > Sigh..... > > > > > > Tilley > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 3, 2011 Report Share Posted November 3, 2011 Got to jump in here too... RE, " I want to be making music, and making art, and gardening, and taking my dog running in the woods, and sharing meals with family and friends, and nowhere in there is obsessing about food. " Last night I called a friend to talk about this yearning I'm feeling lately and my desire to do my life differently. She launched into an entirely different direction than I was thinking and started on about how she wanted to clean her house more, get new snow tires... on and on. The rest of the conversation spun out into complaints about work and the work place. It took me until this morning to realize, " she just doesn't get it " . Returning to my dreams and learning to honor my true self is definitely part of the journey for me. I'm not there yet, but I know that part of my eating comes from being unfulfilled in my soul. My work is dead to me - and yet it's what I do day in and day out. I'm not quite sure what my dream is and haven't yet dug it out of stasis. But it's a work in progress - and definitely has nothing to do with cleaning my house more often. Sandarah " IntuitiveEating_Support , " tilley200 " wrote: > > > Thank you, thank you--this is just what I need to hear. > > I was thinking this morning about my vision for myself in the future, and it most definitely does not include dieting, or even thinking about food all the time. I want to be making music, and making art, and gardening, and taking my dog running in the woods, and sharing meals with family and friends, and nowhere in there is obsessing about food. So it's really good to hear that even though I may be struggling now, that I may come to the point where I " get it " . > > It makes so much sense to me to listen to my body, and I can tell how stress interferes with that. Also this morning, while I was walking my dog-- of my favorite times of day--I was thinking about how I really need to find a yoga class. I have been wanting to start doing yoga again, because of how it really helps me connect with my body, but I haven't been able to get around to doing it on my own, and a class might help. I would also probably benefit from meditating as well, though running used to be my meditation, and since I can't run any more because of my heels I'm really missing it. My stress mostly has to do with my son who is floundering at the moment, and while there are some definite things I can do to help, much of it is out of my control, and I just have to let him be. He's 19, and needs to be doing things for himself. Sigh. > > But I really do have a vision of myself as a healthy person, and I will keep listening, as best I can. > > Thanks again. > > Tilley > > > > > > > ...because I am most definitely not losing weight, and I really need to, yet even the merest thought of eating less fills me with a kind of panic. I know that embracing an Intuitive way of eating is what I absolutely have to do, yet I don't see how it's ever going to move me back to the healthy adult weight I maintained for the first decade of my adult life, and maintained for at least five years after losing a bunch of weight when I finally got over my husband leaving, all without any thought or effort on my part, but I can't even imagine restricting, because I know I can't do it, and I know that it's ultimately counterproductive but I feel like I have to DO something. But what? > > > > > > Sigh..... > > > > > > Tilley > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 3, 2011 Report Share Posted November 3, 2011 Got to jump in here too... RE, " I want to be making music, and making art, and gardening, and taking my dog running in the woods, and sharing meals with family and friends, and nowhere in there is obsessing about food. " Last night I called a friend to talk about this yearning I'm feeling lately and my desire to do my life differently. She launched into an entirely different direction than I was thinking and started on about how she wanted to clean her house more, get new snow tires... on and on. The rest of the conversation spun out into complaints about work and the work place. It took me until this morning to realize, " she just doesn't get it " . Returning to my dreams and learning to honor my true self is definitely part of the journey for me. I'm not there yet, but I know that part of my eating comes from being unfulfilled in my soul. My work is dead to me - and yet it's what I do day in and day out. I'm not quite sure what my dream is and haven't yet dug it out of stasis. But it's a work in progress - and definitely has nothing to do with cleaning my house more often. Sandarah " IntuitiveEating_Support , " tilley200 " wrote: > > > Thank you, thank you--this is just what I need to hear. > > I was thinking this morning about my vision for myself in the future, and it most definitely does not include dieting, or even thinking about food all the time. I want to be making music, and making art, and gardening, and taking my dog running in the woods, and sharing meals with family and friends, and nowhere in there is obsessing about food. So it's really good to hear that even though I may be struggling now, that I may come to the point where I " get it " . > > It makes so much sense to me to listen to my body, and I can tell how stress interferes with that. Also this morning, while I was walking my dog-- of my favorite times of day--I was thinking about how I really need to find a yoga class. I have been wanting to start doing yoga again, because of how it really helps me connect with my body, but I haven't been able to get around to doing it on my own, and a class might help. I would also probably benefit from meditating as well, though running used to be my meditation, and since I can't run any more because of my heels I'm really missing it. My stress mostly has to do with my son who is floundering at the moment, and while there are some definite things I can do to help, much of it is out of my control, and I just have to let him be. He's 19, and needs to be doing things for himself. Sigh. > > But I really do have a vision of myself as a healthy person, and I will keep listening, as best I can. > > Thanks again. > > Tilley > > > > > > > ...because I am most definitely not losing weight, and I really need to, yet even the merest thought of eating less fills me with a kind of panic. I know that embracing an Intuitive way of eating is what I absolutely have to do, yet I don't see how it's ever going to move me back to the healthy adult weight I maintained for the first decade of my adult life, and maintained for at least five years after losing a bunch of weight when I finally got over my husband leaving, all without any thought or effort on my part, but I can't even imagine restricting, because I know I can't do it, and I know that it's ultimately counterproductive but I feel like I have to DO something. But what? > > > > > > Sigh..... > > > > > > Tilley > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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