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Your post reminded me of this: http://www.candyboots.com/wwcards.html Anyone who

has ever been part of WW should have a good laugh at these! lol

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> > From: hatslady1 <jerryjane@>

> > Subject: Warning Lights

> > To: IntuitiveEating_Support

> > Date: Saturday, October 29, 2011, 2:58 AM

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> > It seems to me that a lot of the fat women I know seem to be really angry

people. Some hide it better than others, but anger seems to be something which

really gets in the way for a number of the fat women I know. It's certainly been

a problem for me and I've been trying to deal with it.

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> > I've been reading a book about anger called " Overcoming Emotions That

Destroy " by Pastor Chip Ingram. I just finished a chapter about how anger is a

secondary emotion which indicates that there is a deeper issue, often hurt,

unmet needs, or the insecurity common to all human beings. The idea is that

anger is like a warning light on the dashboard that something is wrong under the

hood.

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> > I've been thinking about how this is JUST LIKE OVEREATING. I kid myself that

the problem is the overeating, when actually, I am overeating because of a bunch

of underlying things. It could be just that my emotionally disturbed son is

creating chaos at the dinner table and when people are arguing and yelling, I

can't possibly notice that I'm no longer hungry, since I'm hardly aware that I'm

eating, period. Trying to control the eating is ridiculous; I need to eat in a

peaceful environment instead. When I am hugely stressed-out because of a family

crisis and find myself eating chocolates, the chocolates are not the problem,

the crisis is. Focusing on NOT eating chocolates doesn't work at all, and

certainly, beating myself up for a lack of self-control only makes things worse,

but if I can utilize various tactics to calm myself down and get help to ease

the crisis, presto, the urge to stuff down chocolates disappears.

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> > I wonder if I'm going to find more of these " warning lights " in my life? I

hope I can train myself to deal with the root problems directly.

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> > Jane

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Mine isn't exactly a diet item, but its definitely in the spirit of substitute

which does NOT satisfy. I tried several gluten free bread recipes and after

eating cardboard tasting bricks several times, I say forget it. I'll find other

ways to enjoy GF eating without trying to 'fool' myself. GF works ok for pastry

type baked items, but bread is quite another thing. And I simply will not pay

over $5 for a less than 1# 'loaf' of commercially whipped up chemicals! Heck I

don't eat sandwiches all that much to begin with.

Good topic Sandarah! - Katcha

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> What's the worst diet dish/meal anyone else has eaten?

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Mine isn't exactly a diet item, but its definitely in the spirit of substitute

which does NOT satisfy. I tried several gluten free bread recipes and after

eating cardboard tasting bricks several times, I say forget it. I'll find other

ways to enjoy GF eating without trying to 'fool' myself. GF works ok for pastry

type baked items, but bread is quite another thing. And I simply will not pay

over $5 for a less than 1# 'loaf' of commercially whipped up chemicals! Heck I

don't eat sandwiches all that much to begin with.

Good topic Sandarah! - Katcha

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> What's the worst diet dish/meal anyone else has eaten?

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Interesting. Yes, you are probably right that a lot of people do believe sterotypes about people not like themselves (and even people like themselves) whether its weight-wise, ethnicity, race, political affaliation or what have you. Then again some people don't have those feelings. You never know when you're looking at someone what their inner struggle, their inner felelings, their knee-jerk responses will be. So you probably are justified to think that. But, like you said, walking around angry or defensive isn't helping you in this area. I guess the idea would be to try to let go some of the anger DESPITE

Subject: Re: Warning LightsTo: IntuitiveEating_Support Date: Saturday, October 29, 2011, 12:30 PM

I've noticed this about myself, the anger. For me, I seem to have decided some time ago that I had to walk around with defenses up to preempt any sort of judgments or bad treatment from people I come in contact with who are not friends. I think I feel like I have to constantly be ready to defend or stand up for myself so I don't get mistreated. This is because I have a bad habit of assuming everyone shares the same negative opinions and stereotypes of fat people that are perpetuated by the media and therefore they're looking at me and thinking x, y, or z so I subconsciously decided to defend myself by jumping to conclusions and just walking around mad all the time! Lord knows it's not doing me any favors, but I'm not sure I know how to quit because I've read, seen, and heard enough to believe that most people out there DO believe everything they read, see, and hear about the "obesity epidemic" and the negative stereotypes about fat people.So

I think he's right. My anger definitely comes from hurt/perceived hurt and some insecurity but I'm not sure how to quit feeling like it's justified or how to get rid of it if it is justified...And you're right, it's not about the food. It's about what's being stuffed down, coped with, or avoided with food...>> It seems to me that a lot of the fat women I know seem to be really angry people. Some hide it better than others, but anger seems to be something which really gets in the way for a number of the fat women I know. It's certainly been a problem for me and I've been trying to deal with it.> > I've been reading a book about anger called

"Overcoming Emotions That Destroy" by Pastor Chip Ingram. I just finished a chapter about how anger is a secondary emotion which indicates that there is a deeper issue, often hurt, unmet needs, or the insecurity common to all human beings. The idea is that anger is like a warning light on the dashboard that something is wrong under the hood.> > I've been thinking about how this is JUST LIKE OVEREATING. I kid myself that the problem is the overeating, when actually, I am overeating because of a bunch of underlying things. It could be just that my emotionally disturbed son is creating chaos at the dinner table and when people are arguing and yelling, I can't possibly notice that I'm no longer hungry, since I'm hardly aware that I'm eating, period. Trying to control the eating is ridiculous; I need to eat in a peaceful environment instead. When I am hugely stressed-out because of a family crisis and find myself eating chocolates, the

chocolates are not the problem, the crisis is. Focusing on NOT eating chocolates doesn't work at all, and certainly, beating myself up for a lack of self-control only makes things worse, but if I can utilize various tactics to calm myself down and get help to ease the crisis, presto, the urge to stuff down chocolates disappears.> > I wonder if I'm going to find more of these "warning lights" in my life? I hope I can train myself to deal with the root problems directly.> > Jane>

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Interesting. Yes, you are probably right that a lot of people do believe sterotypes about people not like themselves (and even people like themselves) whether its weight-wise, ethnicity, race, political affaliation or what have you. Then again some people don't have those feelings. You never know when you're looking at someone what their inner struggle, their inner felelings, their knee-jerk responses will be. So you probably are justified to think that. But, like you said, walking around angry or defensive isn't helping you in this area. I guess the idea would be to try to let go some of the anger DESPITE

Subject: Re: Warning LightsTo: IntuitiveEating_Support Date: Saturday, October 29, 2011, 12:30 PM

I've noticed this about myself, the anger. For me, I seem to have decided some time ago that I had to walk around with defenses up to preempt any sort of judgments or bad treatment from people I come in contact with who are not friends. I think I feel like I have to constantly be ready to defend or stand up for myself so I don't get mistreated. This is because I have a bad habit of assuming everyone shares the same negative opinions and stereotypes of fat people that are perpetuated by the media and therefore they're looking at me and thinking x, y, or z so I subconsciously decided to defend myself by jumping to conclusions and just walking around mad all the time! Lord knows it's not doing me any favors, but I'm not sure I know how to quit because I've read, seen, and heard enough to believe that most people out there DO believe everything they read, see, and hear about the "obesity epidemic" and the negative stereotypes about fat people.So

I think he's right. My anger definitely comes from hurt/perceived hurt and some insecurity but I'm not sure how to quit feeling like it's justified or how to get rid of it if it is justified...And you're right, it's not about the food. It's about what's being stuffed down, coped with, or avoided with food...>> It seems to me that a lot of the fat women I know seem to be really angry people. Some hide it better than others, but anger seems to be something which really gets in the way for a number of the fat women I know. It's certainly been a problem for me and I've been trying to deal with it.> > I've been reading a book about anger called

"Overcoming Emotions That Destroy" by Pastor Chip Ingram. I just finished a chapter about how anger is a secondary emotion which indicates that there is a deeper issue, often hurt, unmet needs, or the insecurity common to all human beings. The idea is that anger is like a warning light on the dashboard that something is wrong under the hood.> > I've been thinking about how this is JUST LIKE OVEREATING. I kid myself that the problem is the overeating, when actually, I am overeating because of a bunch of underlying things. It could be just that my emotionally disturbed son is creating chaos at the dinner table and when people are arguing and yelling, I can't possibly notice that I'm no longer hungry, since I'm hardly aware that I'm eating, period. Trying to control the eating is ridiculous; I need to eat in a peaceful environment instead. When I am hugely stressed-out because of a family crisis and find myself eating chocolates, the

chocolates are not the problem, the crisis is. Focusing on NOT eating chocolates doesn't work at all, and certainly, beating myself up for a lack of self-control only makes things worse, but if I can utilize various tactics to calm myself down and get help to ease the crisis, presto, the urge to stuff down chocolates disappears.> > I wonder if I'm going to find more of these "warning lights" in my life? I hope I can train myself to deal with the root problems directly.> > Jane>

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Whoops, hit send too soon. I was going to say that the trick is to release some of the anger despite the fact that some people will judge you based on your weight. You can't control what others think or feel, but you can make your own reaction work better for you. Your anger is nothing to feel ashamed about. The Dance of Anger is a good place to start. Also, can you try saying, "so what?" It's a technique in "Overcoming Overeating" I think. The authors say when you feel like you've gained weight, or you've overeaten and are feeling guilty sometimes saying "so what?" to yourself helps to dissipate the negative self-talk. You may not feel very "so what?" about people's perceived stereotypes about you, but maybe saying it can help it feel less important in your life. I've tried it and it's helped me.

Mimi

Subject: Re: Warning LightsTo: IntuitiveEating_Support Date: Saturday, October 29, 2011, 12:30 PM

I've noticed this about myself, the anger. For me, I seem to have decided some time ago that I had to walk around with defenses up to preempt any sort of judgments or bad treatment from people I come in contact with who are not friends. I think I feel like I have to constantly be ready to defend or stand up for myself so I don't get mistreated. This is because I have a bad habit of assuming everyone shares the same negative opinions and stereotypes of fat people that are perpetuated by the media and therefore they're looking at me and thinking x, y, or z so I subconsciously decided to defend myself by jumping to conclusions and just walking around mad all the time! Lord knows it's not doing me any favors, but I'm not sure I know how to quit because I've read, seen, and heard enough to believe that most people out there DO believe everything they read, see, and hear about the "obesity epidemic" and the negative stereotypes about fat people.So

I think he's right. My anger definitely comes from hurt/perceived hurt and some insecurity but I'm not sure how to quit feeling like it's justified or how to get rid of it if it is justified...And you're right, it's not about the food. It's about what's being stuffed down, coped with, or avoided with food...>> It seems to me that a lot of the fat women I know seem to be really angry people. Some hide it better than others, but anger seems to be something which really gets in the way for a number of the fat women I know. It's certainly been a problem for me and I've been trying to deal with it.> > I've been reading a book about anger called "Overcoming Emotions That Destroy" by Pastor Chip Ingram.

I just finished a chapter about how anger is a secondary emotion which indicates that there is a deeper issue, often hurt, unmet needs, or the insecurity common to all human beings. The idea is that anger is like a warning light on the dashboard that something is wrong under the hood.> > I've been thinking about how this is JUST LIKE OVEREATING. I kid myself that the problem is the overeating, when actually, I am overeating because of a bunch of underlying things. It could be just that my emotionally disturbed son is creating chaos at the dinner table and when people are arguing and yelling, I can't possibly notice that I'm no longer hungry, since I'm hardly aware that I'm eating, period. Trying to control the eating is ridiculous; I need to eat in a peaceful environment instead. When I am hugely stressed-out because of a family crisis and find myself eating chocolates, the chocolates are not the problem, the crisis is. Focusing on NOT

eating chocolates doesn't work at all, and certainly, beating myself up for a lack of self-control only makes things worse, but if I can utilize various tactics to calm myself down and get help to ease the crisis, presto, the urge to stuff down chocolates disappears.> > I wonder if I'm going to find more of these "warning lights" in my life? I hope I can train myself to deal with the root problems directly.> > Jane>

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Whoops, hit send too soon. I was going to say that the trick is to release some of the anger despite the fact that some people will judge you based on your weight. You can't control what others think or feel, but you can make your own reaction work better for you. Your anger is nothing to feel ashamed about. The Dance of Anger is a good place to start. Also, can you try saying, "so what?" It's a technique in "Overcoming Overeating" I think. The authors say when you feel like you've gained weight, or you've overeaten and are feeling guilty sometimes saying "so what?" to yourself helps to dissipate the negative self-talk. You may not feel very "so what?" about people's perceived stereotypes about you, but maybe saying it can help it feel less important in your life. I've tried it and it's helped me.

Mimi

Subject: Re: Warning LightsTo: IntuitiveEating_Support Date: Saturday, October 29, 2011, 12:30 PM

I've noticed this about myself, the anger. For me, I seem to have decided some time ago that I had to walk around with defenses up to preempt any sort of judgments or bad treatment from people I come in contact with who are not friends. I think I feel like I have to constantly be ready to defend or stand up for myself so I don't get mistreated. This is because I have a bad habit of assuming everyone shares the same negative opinions and stereotypes of fat people that are perpetuated by the media and therefore they're looking at me and thinking x, y, or z so I subconsciously decided to defend myself by jumping to conclusions and just walking around mad all the time! Lord knows it's not doing me any favors, but I'm not sure I know how to quit because I've read, seen, and heard enough to believe that most people out there DO believe everything they read, see, and hear about the "obesity epidemic" and the negative stereotypes about fat people.So

I think he's right. My anger definitely comes from hurt/perceived hurt and some insecurity but I'm not sure how to quit feeling like it's justified or how to get rid of it if it is justified...And you're right, it's not about the food. It's about what's being stuffed down, coped with, or avoided with food...>> It seems to me that a lot of the fat women I know seem to be really angry people. Some hide it better than others, but anger seems to be something which really gets in the way for a number of the fat women I know. It's certainly been a problem for me and I've been trying to deal with it.> > I've been reading a book about anger called "Overcoming Emotions That Destroy" by Pastor Chip Ingram.

I just finished a chapter about how anger is a secondary emotion which indicates that there is a deeper issue, often hurt, unmet needs, or the insecurity common to all human beings. The idea is that anger is like a warning light on the dashboard that something is wrong under the hood.> > I've been thinking about how this is JUST LIKE OVEREATING. I kid myself that the problem is the overeating, when actually, I am overeating because of a bunch of underlying things. It could be just that my emotionally disturbed son is creating chaos at the dinner table and when people are arguing and yelling, I can't possibly notice that I'm no longer hungry, since I'm hardly aware that I'm eating, period. Trying to control the eating is ridiculous; I need to eat in a peaceful environment instead. When I am hugely stressed-out because of a family crisis and find myself eating chocolates, the chocolates are not the problem, the crisis is. Focusing on NOT

eating chocolates doesn't work at all, and certainly, beating myself up for a lack of self-control only makes things worse, but if I can utilize various tactics to calm myself down and get help to ease the crisis, presto, the urge to stuff down chocolates disappears.> > I wonder if I'm going to find more of these "warning lights" in my life? I hope I can train myself to deal with the root problems directly.> > Jane>

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Yes, and other people are reacting to it, too, which is doubly positive. Not only are you doing better at not repressing emotions in the moment, but expressing them is getting you better results at work! That's so great.

Mimi

Subject: Re: Warning LightsTo: IntuitiveEating_Support Date: Sunday, October 30, 2011, 11:58 AM

Hooray! This is a very good sign that you are utilizing your emotions in a 'proper' (and productive) way. Bravo and happy results too. bet you didn't feel as driven to eat as you would have been before either.ehugs, KatchaIEing since March 2007>> Now I feel my anger more quickly and surprisingly he often changes his mind and takes back what I'm about to confront him on. It's weird - but at the very least I think he can sense I'm angry and that he's off base. >

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Yes, and other people are reacting to it, too, which is doubly positive. Not only are you doing better at not repressing emotions in the moment, but expressing them is getting you better results at work! That's so great.

Mimi

Subject: Re: Warning LightsTo: IntuitiveEating_Support Date: Sunday, October 30, 2011, 11:58 AM

Hooray! This is a very good sign that you are utilizing your emotions in a 'proper' (and productive) way. Bravo and happy results too. bet you didn't feel as driven to eat as you would have been before either.ehugs, KatchaIEing since March 2007>> Now I feel my anger more quickly and surprisingly he often changes his mind and takes back what I'm about to confront him on. It's weird - but at the very least I think he can sense I'm angry and that he's off base. >

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Yes, and other people are reacting to it, too, which is doubly positive. Not only are you doing better at not repressing emotions in the moment, but expressing them is getting you better results at work! That's so great.

Mimi

Subject: Re: Warning LightsTo: IntuitiveEating_Support Date: Sunday, October 30, 2011, 11:58 AM

Hooray! This is a very good sign that you are utilizing your emotions in a 'proper' (and productive) way. Bravo and happy results too. bet you didn't feel as driven to eat as you would have been before either.ehugs, KatchaIEing since March 2007>> Now I feel my anger more quickly and surprisingly he often changes his mind and takes back what I'm about to confront him on. It's weird - but at the very least I think he can sense I'm angry and that he's off base. >

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A long time ago, I tried a Slimfast shake. I don't know what I was thinking; I was positively skinny, but I thought I had to get a "jump on things" before I ended up with a weight problem. So I had this shake for breakfast at work and immediately developed a migraine, complete with visual aura. It was the first and last migraine I've ever had. The whole six-pack went into the garbage the next day.....

Mimi

Subject: Re: Warning LightsTo: IntuitiveEating_Support Date: Monday, October 31, 2011, 9:17 PM

I'm certain that the fake food I've eaten over the years in the hopes of losing weight has been a significant contributor to the diet backlash. I remember particularly the god-awful salad dressings that have slimed their way down my throat in the past. And the licorice-tasting fake sweeteners (that rot your brain) and never hit the spot. At all. Not even close. Except, maybe, in quantities five times what the real product would have been. By then you're so sick, you're "satisfied". So many years of trying to fake myself out with foods that were essentially disgusting - but "better than nothing".... Craziness. What's the worst diet dish/meal anyone else has eaten?

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A long time ago, I tried a Slimfast shake. I don't know what I was thinking; I was positively skinny, but I thought I had to get a "jump on things" before I ended up with a weight problem. So I had this shake for breakfast at work and immediately developed a migraine, complete with visual aura. It was the first and last migraine I've ever had. The whole six-pack went into the garbage the next day.....

Mimi

Subject: Re: Warning LightsTo: IntuitiveEating_Support Date: Monday, October 31, 2011, 9:17 PM

I'm certain that the fake food I've eaten over the years in the hopes of losing weight has been a significant contributor to the diet backlash. I remember particularly the god-awful salad dressings that have slimed their way down my throat in the past. And the licorice-tasting fake sweeteners (that rot your brain) and never hit the spot. At all. Not even close. Except, maybe, in quantities five times what the real product would have been. By then you're so sick, you're "satisfied". So many years of trying to fake myself out with foods that were essentially disgusting - but "better than nothing".... Craziness. What's the worst diet dish/meal anyone else has eaten?

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A long time ago, I tried a Slimfast shake. I don't know what I was thinking; I was positively skinny, but I thought I had to get a "jump on things" before I ended up with a weight problem. So I had this shake for breakfast at work and immediately developed a migraine, complete with visual aura. It was the first and last migraine I've ever had. The whole six-pack went into the garbage the next day.....

Mimi

Subject: Re: Warning LightsTo: IntuitiveEating_Support Date: Monday, October 31, 2011, 9:17 PM

I'm certain that the fake food I've eaten over the years in the hopes of losing weight has been a significant contributor to the diet backlash. I remember particularly the god-awful salad dressings that have slimed their way down my throat in the past. And the licorice-tasting fake sweeteners (that rot your brain) and never hit the spot. At all. Not even close. Except, maybe, in quantities five times what the real product would have been. By then you're so sick, you're "satisfied". So many years of trying to fake myself out with foods that were essentially disgusting - but "better than nothing".... Craziness. What's the worst diet dish/meal anyone else has eaten?

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That site is hilarious! The descriptions and pictures are priceless. I guess this was before food photography became a big business. I can't decide which dish is the most outrageous.

Mimi

Subject: Re: Warning LightsTo: IntuitiveEating_Support Date: Tuesday, November 1, 2011, 11:10 AM

Your post reminded me of this: http://www.candyboots.com/wwcards.html Anyone who has ever been part of WW should have a good laugh at these! lol

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That site is hilarious! The descriptions and pictures are priceless. I guess this was before food photography became a big business. I can't decide which dish is the most outrageous.

Mimi

Subject: Re: Warning LightsTo: IntuitiveEating_Support Date: Tuesday, November 1, 2011, 11:10 AM

Your post reminded me of this: http://www.candyboots.com/wwcards.html Anyone who has ever been part of WW should have a good laugh at these! lol

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That site is hilarious! The descriptions and pictures are priceless. I guess this was before food photography became a big business. I can't decide which dish is the most outrageous.

Mimi

Subject: Re: Warning LightsTo: IntuitiveEating_Support Date: Tuesday, November 1, 2011, 11:10 AM

Your post reminded me of this: http://www.candyboots.com/wwcards.html Anyone who has ever been part of WW should have a good laugh at these! lol

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Okay, I have to admit that I laughed out loud reading all this. I was hungry,

though (it's really time for lunch!), and some of them actually looked good.

But bizarro pictures, and too funny on the props.

Thanks for sharing!

Tilley

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I noticed a commercial yesterday that has puzzled me before. I've never tried the product, and won't, but I'm talking about Sensa. I don't get the concept itself, which appears to be to sprinkle flavoring on everything you eat to change the flavor so you don't want to eat it. ?? And it's quite pricey. I would think it would make more sense to eat just one food, if your ice cream is going to taste like your cereal. Why pay big bucks for that?

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A long time ago, I tried a Slimfast shake. I don't know what I was thinking; I was positively skinny, but I thought I migraine, complete with visual aura. It was the first and last migraine I've ever had. The whole six-pack went into the garbage the next day.....

Mimi

- but "better than nothing".... Craziness. What's the worst diet dish/meal anyone else has eaten?

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Tilly, you have to be hungry if you thought those foods looked appetizing! Which ones did you like? The jello cabbage salad? the liver mold with the 3 glasses of cranberry juice? LOL.

Mimi

Subject: Re: Warning LightsTo: IntuitiveEating_Support Date: Wednesday, November 2, 2011, 11:57 AM

Okay, I have to admit that I laughed out loud reading all this. I was hungry, though (it's really time for lunch!), and some of them actually looked good. But bizarro pictures, and too funny on the props.Thanks for sharing!Tilley

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Now THIS made me laugh too, but if you must know, the casserole thing in the

bread did, and the nearly naked fish and nearly naked bird did too.....

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> Okay, I have to admit that I laughed out loud reading all this. I was hungry,

though (it's really time for lunch!), and some of them actually looked good. But

bizarro pictures, and too funny on the props.

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Now THIS made me laugh too, but if you must know, the casserole thing in the

bread did, and the nearly naked fish and nearly naked bird did too.....

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> Okay, I have to admit that I laughed out loud reading all this. I was hungry,

though (it's really time for lunch!), and some of them actually looked good. But

bizarro pictures, and too funny on the props.

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Now THIS made me laugh too, but if you must know, the casserole thing in the

bread did, and the nearly naked fish and nearly naked bird did too.....

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> Okay, I have to admit that I laughed out loud reading all this. I was hungry,

though (it's really time for lunch!), and some of them actually looked good. But

bizarro pictures, and too funny on the props.

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> Thanks for sharing!

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Good points Mimi. I suppose everyone has that 'something' about them that other

people judge or stereotype about. Next time I'm wherever and I start feeling

like people are judging me, I'm going to try to follow 'he probably thinks I'm

____ (fat, dumb, whatever)' with a little 'so what?' or 'and?'. I do think it

will help to remember that what other people think is not what defines me and is

not the end of the world.

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> > It seems to me that a lot of the fat women I know seem to be really angry

people. Some hide it better than others, but anger seems to be something which

really gets in the way for a number of the fat women I know. It's certainly been

a problem for me and I've been trying to deal with it.

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> > I've been reading a book about anger called " Overcoming Emotions That

Destroy " by Pastor Chip Ingram. I just finished a chapter about how anger is a

secondary emotion which indicates that there is a deeper issue, often hurt,

unmet needs, or the insecurity common to all human beings. The idea is that

anger is like a warning light on the dashboard that something is wrong under the

hood.

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> > I've been thinking about how this is JUST LIKE OVEREATING. I kid myself that

the problem is the overeating, when actually, I am overeating because of a bunch

of underlying things. It could be just that my emotionally disturbed son is

creating chaos at the dinner table and when people are arguing and yelling, I

can't possibly notice that I'm no longer hungry, since I'm hardly aware that I'm

eating, period. Trying to control the eating is ridiculous; I need to eat in a

peaceful environment instead. When I am hugely stressed-out because of a family

crisis and find myself eating chocolates, the chocolates are not the problem,

the crisis is. Focusing on NOT eating chocolates doesn't work at all, and

certainly, beating myself up for a lack of self-control only makes things worse,

but if I can utilize various tactics to calm myself down and get help to ease

the crisis, presto, the urge to stuff down chocolates disappears.

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> > I wonder if I'm going to find more of these " warning lights " in my life? I

hope I can train myself to deal with the root problems directly.

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> > Jane

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That's exactly what I want for breakfast tomorrow morning; liver mold with three

glasses of cranberry juice. Yum!

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> Subject: Re: Warning Lights

> To: IntuitiveEating_Support

> Date: Wednesday, November 2, 2011, 11:57 AM

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> Okay, I have to admit that I laughed out loud reading all this. I was hungry,

though (it's really time for lunch!), and some of them actually looked good. But

bizarro pictures, and too funny on the props.

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> Thanks for sharing!

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> Tilley

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That's exactly what I want for breakfast tomorrow morning; liver mold with three

glasses of cranberry juice. Yum!

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> Subject: Re: Warning Lights

> To: IntuitiveEating_Support

> Date: Wednesday, November 2, 2011, 11:57 AM

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> Okay, I have to admit that I laughed out loud reading all this. I was hungry,

though (it's really time for lunch!), and some of them actually looked good. But

bizarro pictures, and too funny on the props.

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> Thanks for sharing!

>

> Tilley

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