Guest guest Posted April 16, 2006 Report Share Posted April 16, 2006 Most countries will have a 'native sign language', but dialects can differ from region to region in the same country, just like spoken expressions differ from region to region; eg. when I moved from NY to Calif in the seventies, the ASL was basically the same, but I had to learn many new signs due to dialect differences based on culture of the area, just as I learned new spoken words and expressions! Same when I eventually moved to Australia and learned Auslan in Sydney, then moved to Perth and had to learn a new dialect - most of the Auslan signs stayed the same, but as Perth has a different culture than Sydney, there is a different dialect. Melbourne and Queensland also have slightly different dialects. However, because any native sign language is concept based and cultural, dialect signs are generally very easy to pick up from region to region. Hope this makes sense. Also, like any language, sign language evolves, so a word/sign used 20 years ago many not be the same used today; eg. groovy/cool/wicked/awesome/sick Gestuno is international sign that is typically used only at World Conferences for Deaf...there is no universal sign language as such, as language is so influenced by culture. Hope this helps. Sharon from West Oz >Bonnie, we use a sign similar to Usher's showing both eye and ear on the >side of the face. Instead of a " U " by the eye to and " S " by the chin, I >fingerspell it and show a " C " to and " S " . This is funny, because someone a >long time ago showed this to me, someone who was deaf, here in NJ and I >always thought it was the sign, and I have seen others use it. In any case, >people in different parts of the country use different signs. For example a >sign used in NY isn't used for NJ. Do you want me to forward this to my >teacher (I am in an Interpreting program now for 4 years), she is very known >at Galudette, also, the principal of 's school was some big wig at >Galudette. > >I wasn't aware that you could establish a nationally known sign. You can't >patent a sign, so what stops it from changing, you know like the telephone >game? When this is done, how do you distribute it amongst the deaf >community? How would I be able to find out other nationally used signs? >Are these signs used for specific purposes like at national events? I am >just very curious, since I have been studying this for a long time. Is >there a book out there on national signs for the US? I know for world >events they use Juno, a world sign language but not many people know it. > >Debbie Matasker > > > > Re: CHARGE sign??? > >Martha and all, > >I hate to put a glitch in yet another topic but one of the things that came >from our board meeting in California was the discussion of the great need >for a >sign for CHARGE Syndrome. > >I have been told that to be given a " sign name " it must be done either by >someone who is deaf or by other specific rules. We are going to be getting >in >touch with Galudette to find out the exact protocol. If we are going to be >using it nationally it has to be a nationally accepted sign. Sounds silly >but its >true. > >This then led to sure parents/professional can think of sign's for CHARGE >that we all feel comfortable with and would find delightful but would it be >what >individuals who actually have CHARGE will feel comfortable with. To much is > >done for/to/about them without their input. Due to that we are planning to >get >the adults who have CHARGE to work together to be in charge of that. hahaha. > >Sorry for the pun but I just had to! > >Anyway, I hope all of you are understanding and can all wait on this. >Please >let us go through the Adult Committee with only the adults who have CHARGE >Syndrome to be the ones to work together to come up with a sign for CHARGE >Syndrome. It is them and it is their lives. Let's let them do it >INDEPENDANTLY! > >Gosh I am in a humorous mood here! > > >Bonnie, Mom to a 23, Patty CHARGE 21, and wife to > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 16, 2006 Report Share Posted April 16, 2006 Most countries will have a 'native sign language', but dialects can differ from region to region in the same country, just like spoken expressions differ from region to region; eg. when I moved from NY to Calif in the seventies, the ASL was basically the same, but I had to learn many new signs due to dialect differences based on culture of the area, just as I learned new spoken words and expressions! Same when I eventually moved to Australia and learned Auslan in Sydney, then moved to Perth and had to learn a new dialect - most of the Auslan signs stayed the same, but as Perth has a different culture than Sydney, there is a different dialect. Melbourne and Queensland also have slightly different dialects. However, because any native sign language is concept based and cultural, dialect signs are generally very easy to pick up from region to region. Hope this makes sense. Also, like any language, sign language evolves, so a word/sign used 20 years ago many not be the same used today; eg. groovy/cool/wicked/awesome/sick Gestuno is international sign that is typically used only at World Conferences for Deaf...there is no universal sign language as such, as language is so influenced by culture. Hope this helps. Sharon from West Oz >Bonnie, we use a sign similar to Usher's showing both eye and ear on the >side of the face. Instead of a " U " by the eye to and " S " by the chin, I >fingerspell it and show a " C " to and " S " . This is funny, because someone a >long time ago showed this to me, someone who was deaf, here in NJ and I >always thought it was the sign, and I have seen others use it. In any case, >people in different parts of the country use different signs. For example a >sign used in NY isn't used for NJ. Do you want me to forward this to my >teacher (I am in an Interpreting program now for 4 years), she is very known >at Galudette, also, the principal of 's school was some big wig at >Galudette. > >I wasn't aware that you could establish a nationally known sign. You can't >patent a sign, so what stops it from changing, you know like the telephone >game? When this is done, how do you distribute it amongst the deaf >community? How would I be able to find out other nationally used signs? >Are these signs used for specific purposes like at national events? I am >just very curious, since I have been studying this for a long time. Is >there a book out there on national signs for the US? I know for world >events they use Juno, a world sign language but not many people know it. > >Debbie Matasker > > > > Re: CHARGE sign??? > >Martha and all, > >I hate to put a glitch in yet another topic but one of the things that came >from our board meeting in California was the discussion of the great need >for a >sign for CHARGE Syndrome. > >I have been told that to be given a " sign name " it must be done either by >someone who is deaf or by other specific rules. We are going to be getting >in >touch with Galudette to find out the exact protocol. If we are going to be >using it nationally it has to be a nationally accepted sign. Sounds silly >but its >true. > >This then led to sure parents/professional can think of sign's for CHARGE >that we all feel comfortable with and would find delightful but would it be >what >individuals who actually have CHARGE will feel comfortable with. To much is > >done for/to/about them without their input. Due to that we are planning to >get >the adults who have CHARGE to work together to be in charge of that. hahaha. > >Sorry for the pun but I just had to! > >Anyway, I hope all of you are understanding and can all wait on this. >Please >let us go through the Adult Committee with only the adults who have CHARGE >Syndrome to be the ones to work together to come up with a sign for CHARGE >Syndrome. It is them and it is their lives. Let's let them do it >INDEPENDANTLY! > >Gosh I am in a humorous mood here! > > >Bonnie, Mom to a 23, Patty CHARGE 21, and wife to > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 16, 2006 Report Share Posted April 16, 2006 Most countries will have a 'native sign language', but dialects can differ from region to region in the same country, just like spoken expressions differ from region to region; eg. when I moved from NY to Calif in the seventies, the ASL was basically the same, but I had to learn many new signs due to dialect differences based on culture of the area, just as I learned new spoken words and expressions! Same when I eventually moved to Australia and learned Auslan in Sydney, then moved to Perth and had to learn a new dialect - most of the Auslan signs stayed the same, but as Perth has a different culture than Sydney, there is a different dialect. Melbourne and Queensland also have slightly different dialects. However, because any native sign language is concept based and cultural, dialect signs are generally very easy to pick up from region to region. Hope this makes sense. Also, like any language, sign language evolves, so a word/sign used 20 years ago many not be the same used today; eg. groovy/cool/wicked/awesome/sick Gestuno is international sign that is typically used only at World Conferences for Deaf...there is no universal sign language as such, as language is so influenced by culture. Hope this helps. Sharon from West Oz >Bonnie, we use a sign similar to Usher's showing both eye and ear on the >side of the face. Instead of a " U " by the eye to and " S " by the chin, I >fingerspell it and show a " C " to and " S " . This is funny, because someone a >long time ago showed this to me, someone who was deaf, here in NJ and I >always thought it was the sign, and I have seen others use it. In any case, >people in different parts of the country use different signs. For example a >sign used in NY isn't used for NJ. Do you want me to forward this to my >teacher (I am in an Interpreting program now for 4 years), she is very known >at Galudette, also, the principal of 's school was some big wig at >Galudette. > >I wasn't aware that you could establish a nationally known sign. You can't >patent a sign, so what stops it from changing, you know like the telephone >game? When this is done, how do you distribute it amongst the deaf >community? How would I be able to find out other nationally used signs? >Are these signs used for specific purposes like at national events? I am >just very curious, since I have been studying this for a long time. Is >there a book out there on national signs for the US? I know for world >events they use Juno, a world sign language but not many people know it. > >Debbie Matasker > > > > Re: CHARGE sign??? > >Martha and all, > >I hate to put a glitch in yet another topic but one of the things that came >from our board meeting in California was the discussion of the great need >for a >sign for CHARGE Syndrome. > >I have been told that to be given a " sign name " it must be done either by >someone who is deaf or by other specific rules. We are going to be getting >in >touch with Galudette to find out the exact protocol. If we are going to be >using it nationally it has to be a nationally accepted sign. Sounds silly >but its >true. > >This then led to sure parents/professional can think of sign's for CHARGE >that we all feel comfortable with and would find delightful but would it be >what >individuals who actually have CHARGE will feel comfortable with. To much is > >done for/to/about them without their input. Due to that we are planning to >get >the adults who have CHARGE to work together to be in charge of that. hahaha. > >Sorry for the pun but I just had to! > >Anyway, I hope all of you are understanding and can all wait on this. >Please >let us go through the Adult Committee with only the adults who have CHARGE >Syndrome to be the ones to work together to come up with a sign for CHARGE >Syndrome. It is them and it is their lives. Let's let them do it >INDEPENDANTLY! > >Gosh I am in a humorous mood here! > > >Bonnie, Mom to a 23, Patty CHARGE 21, and wife to > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 16, 2006 Report Share Posted April 16, 2006 Joining in from what Flo was saying my BSL teacher (and Flo's old one) who seems very politically connected in the deaf world whenever I finger spell CHARGE has a sign (a friend of her's from the deaf community has a son with CHARGE). As usual I always forget it. When I go back to class I will ask her again. Simon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 16, 2006 Report Share Posted April 16, 2006 Joining in from what Flo was saying my BSL teacher (and Flo's old one) who seems very politically connected in the deaf world whenever I finger spell CHARGE has a sign (a friend of her's from the deaf community has a son with CHARGE). As usual I always forget it. When I go back to class I will ask her again. Simon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 16, 2006 Report Share Posted April 16, 2006 Joining in from what Flo was saying my BSL teacher (and Flo's old one) who seems very politically connected in the deaf world whenever I finger spell CHARGE has a sign (a friend of her's from the deaf community has a son with CHARGE). As usual I always forget it. When I go back to class I will ask her again. Simon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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