Guest guest Posted July 17, 2011 Report Share Posted July 17, 2011 I'm wondering how people feel about diet soda, and whether you drink it or not. For all my determination to eat "real food," I still drink diet soda (not from dieting mentality since I actually like it better than regular). I drink it when I want something but am not hungry. Rain From: RainSent: Sunday, July 17, 2011 2:08 PMTo: IntuitiveEating_Support Subject: RE: Tentatively New Hello, I'm a really big advocate of OA and think it's a great program. And as long as a person sticks to the tool of abstinence as defined by the individual, it's absolutely compatible! People were following Geneen Roth in OA in the 90's when I was there - a few people anyway. I'm thinking about going back to OA for the group support and the support of an individual sponsor. From: evmatrixSent: Sunday, July 17, 2011 8:04 AMTo: IntuitiveEating_Support Subject: Tentatively New Hi All,I've been lurking a little bit, reading posts, scared to share. I am in Overeaters Anonymous and I believe that OA and Intuitive Eating are compatible. The nice thing about OA is that I can define my abstinence. I can simply make my abstinence to not eat unconsciously. I was wondering if there is anyone out there using these 2 program together successfully?I've tried to do intuitive eating on my own but failed miserably. I go unconscious so easily. Right now, I'm in a place that I feel good about. I've been abstaining from sugar for over 6 months and I've lost the craving for it. I've just added eating only 3 meals a day to my abstinence and that is going well. Next, I want to start employing some of the principles of intuitive eating. I think I'll start with making sure I'm hungry before I eat. I'd like to let go of any rules, but I feel like the best thing for me is to take it slow. Like I said, I'm scared that everyone is going to jump on me and tell me I'm doing it all wrong. Please be gentle in your comments. I'm not trying to upset anybody. I'm just trying to get help. I don't want to bury my feelings in food anymore. I want to trust my body and give it what it needs. I want freedom around food. Thx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 18, 2011 Report Share Posted July 18, 2011 Thanks for sharing this Kate. I too can't appreciate diet sodas as much as others seems to. Like you finding out more information on 'un'-sugars helped me to choose other alternatives for me. Katcha IEing since March 2007 > > I have some pretty strong feeling about diet soda, and it's not from the > diet point of view but from a health point of view. I googled " diet soda > dangers " and picked out the following sites. I hope I'm not offending > anyone, my previous posts were not answered and I certainly don't mean to > offend, I'm just putting out opinions. To be fair, I also googled " diet > soda advantages " but they turned into " disadvantages " . > > > > http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=7337013n > > http://healthland.time.com/2011/06/29/studies-why-diet-sodas-are-no-boon-to- > dieters/ > > http://www.righthealth.com/topic/Dangers_Of_Diet_Soda > > http://diet.lovetoknow.com/dangers-diet-soda > > > > I used to drink lots of diet Pepsi until I learned more about aspartame and > sucralose (chemically altered sugar-Splenda > http://www.holisticmed.com/splenda/). > > > > In friendship, > > Kate > > > > _____ > > On Behalf Of Rain > Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2011 3:42 PM > Subject: Diet soda > > > > I'm wondering how people feel about diet soda, and whether you drink it or > not. For all my determination to eat " real food, " I still drink diet soda > (not from dieting mentality since I actually like it better than regular). > I drink it when I want something but am not hungry. > > Rain > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 2011 Report Share Posted July 20, 2011 I've read that too - almost better to have real sugar rather than fake. I'm going to try to give up diet soda. I also like cranberry juice with sparkling water. I think it's a good alternative and much healthier.Subject: Re: Diet sodaTo: IntuitiveEating_Support Date: Sunday, July 17, 2011, 4:30 PM I have read that drinking diet drinks can trigger the same insulin response in the body as drinking the regular sugary drinks, so that the impact on the body is the same (can cause weight gain).Which is totally fine if you are good to drink sugary (or artificially sweetened) drinks now and then -- certainly nothing wrong with that. But something to maybe be aware of. Best,Abbywho HATES carbonation, and thus has never had a Coke, Pepsi, root beer, etc. of any variety Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 2011 Report Share Posted July 20, 2011 I've read that too - almost better to have real sugar rather than fake. I'm going to try to give up diet soda. I also like cranberry juice with sparkling water. I think it's a good alternative and much healthier.Subject: Re: Diet sodaTo: IntuitiveEating_Support Date: Sunday, July 17, 2011, 4:30 PM I have read that drinking diet drinks can trigger the same insulin response in the body as drinking the regular sugary drinks, so that the impact on the body is the same (can cause weight gain).Which is totally fine if you are good to drink sugary (or artificially sweetened) drinks now and then -- certainly nothing wrong with that. But something to maybe be aware of. Best,Abbywho HATES carbonation, and thus has never had a Coke, Pepsi, root beer, etc. of any variety Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 2011 Report Share Posted July 20, 2011 I've read that too - almost better to have real sugar rather than fake. I'm going to try to give up diet soda. I also like cranberry juice with sparkling water. I think it's a good alternative and much healthier.Subject: Re: Diet sodaTo: IntuitiveEating_Support Date: Sunday, July 17, 2011, 4:30 PM I have read that drinking diet drinks can trigger the same insulin response in the body as drinking the regular sugary drinks, so that the impact on the body is the same (can cause weight gain).Which is totally fine if you are good to drink sugary (or artificially sweetened) drinks now and then -- certainly nothing wrong with that. But something to maybe be aware of. Best,Abbywho HATES carbonation, and thus has never had a Coke, Pepsi, root beer, etc. of any variety Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 24, 2011 Report Share Posted July 24, 2011 An interesting report I read about larger waistlines is that it stores the stuff that inflames us; i.e., it makes for inflammation evidently throughout the rest of the body as well. I can understand that and if I can manage to do two situps in the morning, that will be great. :-) To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Monday, July 18, 2011 4:43 PMSubject: Re: Diet soda I've quit multiple times before but seem to manage to get back "hooked" on it. Will keep trying. Sandy Just my 2 cents, I know some people (including my daughter) find it addictive, but I never did. That said, there is recent research that people who drink a lot of diet soda have larger waist measurements, and I thought there might be something to that, so I have gone from about 6 a day to none, and although I don't know what it will do or will not do for my measurements, I feel measurably better. I hope thats not too confusing! Just, I quit the stuff entirely and I feel much better than when I was drinking it! Judy To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2011 6:41 PM Subject: Diet soda I'm wondering how people feel about diet soda, and whether you drink it or not. For all my determination to eat "real food," I still drink diet soda (not from dieting mentality since I actually like it better than regular). I drink it when I want something but am not hungry. Rain From: RainSent: Sunday, July 17, 2011 2:08 PMTo: IntuitiveEating_Support Subject: RE: Tentatively New Hello, I'm a really big advocate of OA and think it's a great program. And as long as a person sticks to the tool of abstinence as defined by the individual, it's absolutely compatible! People were following Geneen Roth in OA in the 90's when I was there - a few people anyway. I'm thinking about going back to OA for the group support and the support of an individual sponsor. From: evmatrixSent: Sunday, July 17, 2011 8:04 AMTo: IntuitiveEating_Support Subject: Tentatively New Hi All,I've been lurking a little bit, reading posts, scared to share. I am in Overeaters Anonymous and I believe that OA and Intuitive Eating are compatible. The nice thing about OA is that I can define my abstinence. I can simply make my abstinence to not eat unconsciously. I was wondering if there is anyone out there using these 2 program together successfully?I've tried to do intuitive eating on my own but failed miserably. I go unconscious so easily. Right now, I'm in a place that I feel good about. I've been abstaining from sugar for over 6 months and I've lost the craving for it. I've just added eating only 3 meals a day to my abstinence and that is going well. Next, I want to start employing some of the principles of intuitive eating. I think I'll start with making sure I'm hungry before I eat. I'd like to let go of any rules, but I feel like the best thing for me is to take it slow. Like I said, I'm scared that everyone is going to jump on me and tell me I'm doing it all wrong. Please be gentle in your comments. I'm not trying to upset anybody. I'm just trying to get help. I don't want to bury my feelings in food anymore. I want to trust my body and give it what it needs. I want freedom around food. Thx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 24, 2011 Report Share Posted July 24, 2011 An interesting report I read about larger waistlines is that it stores the stuff that inflames us; i.e., it makes for inflammation evidently throughout the rest of the body as well. I can understand that and if I can manage to do two situps in the morning, that will be great. :-) To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Monday, July 18, 2011 4:43 PMSubject: Re: Diet soda I've quit multiple times before but seem to manage to get back "hooked" on it. Will keep trying. Sandy Just my 2 cents, I know some people (including my daughter) find it addictive, but I never did. That said, there is recent research that people who drink a lot of diet soda have larger waist measurements, and I thought there might be something to that, so I have gone from about 6 a day to none, and although I don't know what it will do or will not do for my measurements, I feel measurably better. I hope thats not too confusing! Just, I quit the stuff entirely and I feel much better than when I was drinking it! Judy To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2011 6:41 PM Subject: Diet soda I'm wondering how people feel about diet soda, and whether you drink it or not. For all my determination to eat "real food," I still drink diet soda (not from dieting mentality since I actually like it better than regular). I drink it when I want something but am not hungry. Rain From: RainSent: Sunday, July 17, 2011 2:08 PMTo: IntuitiveEating_Support Subject: RE: Tentatively New Hello, I'm a really big advocate of OA and think it's a great program. And as long as a person sticks to the tool of abstinence as defined by the individual, it's absolutely compatible! People were following Geneen Roth in OA in the 90's when I was there - a few people anyway. I'm thinking about going back to OA for the group support and the support of an individual sponsor. From: evmatrixSent: Sunday, July 17, 2011 8:04 AMTo: IntuitiveEating_Support Subject: Tentatively New Hi All,I've been lurking a little bit, reading posts, scared to share. I am in Overeaters Anonymous and I believe that OA and Intuitive Eating are compatible. The nice thing about OA is that I can define my abstinence. I can simply make my abstinence to not eat unconsciously. I was wondering if there is anyone out there using these 2 program together successfully?I've tried to do intuitive eating on my own but failed miserably. I go unconscious so easily. Right now, I'm in a place that I feel good about. I've been abstaining from sugar for over 6 months and I've lost the craving for it. I've just added eating only 3 meals a day to my abstinence and that is going well. Next, I want to start employing some of the principles of intuitive eating. I think I'll start with making sure I'm hungry before I eat. I'd like to let go of any rules, but I feel like the best thing for me is to take it slow. Like I said, I'm scared that everyone is going to jump on me and tell me I'm doing it all wrong. Please be gentle in your comments. I'm not trying to upset anybody. I'm just trying to get help. I don't want to bury my feelings in food anymore. I want to trust my body and give it what it needs. I want freedom around food. Thx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 24, 2011 Report Share Posted July 24, 2011 You actually aren't offending me, I have a tendency not to believe the negative reports about diet soda. And I don't mean the ones that speak about larger waistlines, maybe those are true although they surmise that the reason for the "larger waistlines" may be because those who drink diet sodas may tend to make up calories elsewhere. No evidence so far for that theory that I"ve read re: diet sodas and waistlines as if diet sodas cause larger waistlines. Many people in my family drink diet sodas, and they live long lives. They don't have large waistlines. No dementia and no serious ailments well into their old age. I am the only fat one, why, I don't know. I did not inherit the ability to control myself, eat less, eat intuitively, etc. They had those abilities. Not me. I'm tired of struggling, even with IE. I'm not happy eating too much, whatever that means because I don't eat until I'm ready to throw up, I just plain out eat too darn much. If I could eat the same amount of food and not get fat, that would be great. To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Monday, July 18, 2011 11:47 AMSubject: RE: Diet soda I have some pretty strong feeling about diet soda, and it’s not from the diet point of view but from a health point of view. I googled “diet soda dangers†and picked out the following sites. I hope I’m not offending anyone, my previous posts were not answered and I certainly don’t mean to offend, I’m just putting out opinions. To be fair, I also googled “diet soda advantages†but they turned into “disadvantagesâ€. http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=7337013n http://healthland.time.com/2011/06/29/studies-why-diet-sodas-are-no-boon-to-dieters/ http://www.righthealth.com/topic/Dangers_Of_Diet_Soda http://diet.lovetoknow.com/dangers-diet-soda I used to drink lots of diet Pepsi until I learned more about aspartame and sucralose (chemically altered sugar-Splenda http://www.holisticmed.com/splenda/). In friendship, Kate On Behalf Of RainSent: Sunday, July 17, 2011 3:42 PMSubject: Diet soda I'm wondering how people feel about diet soda, and whether you drink it or not. For all my determination to eat "real food," I still drink diet soda (not from dieting mentality since I actually like it better than regular). I drink it when I want something but am not hungry. Rain Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 25, 2011 Report Share Posted July 25, 2011 Tai, I'm sorry you are having such a hard time. You sound really down right now and unhappy with yourself. At least you don't eat until you throw up. And wouldn't it be so nice to eat whatever and not gain weight? I think I have gained more weight because my clothes are a tighter. I go to a specialist on Wednesday because of " fatty liver disease " (and no I do not drink alcohol at all). I think it may be from eating too much fat and sugar, so I think some of those I will have to give up. How to integrate that with IE. FLD can be very serious and even fatal over time, or lead to a need for liver transplant later on. That really has scared me more than the possibility of developing diabetes. I am sure that many overweight people may have bad liver enzymes and not even know it. Mine was discovered during a routine blood work to check my liver because I am on 2 medications that can affect it. MD took me off one and cut me back on the other. So right now I am feeling like I am in limbo and just waiting to see what happens Wednesday. I find too that the diet drinks increase my desire for sweets and snacking. And especially the caffeine kind cause my mouth to " burn " . That can't be good. I wonder if the diet sodas add weight because of increasing my desire for sweets and snacks. Sorry I went on and on. I do hope you find what works for you. I also am leaning towards focusing on other things, like mild exercise, social activities, hobbies, etc. Anything to get my mind off food and yes even IE. Sandy You actually aren't offending me, I have a tendency not to believe the negative reports about diet soda. And I don't mean the ones that speak about larger waistlines, maybe those are true although they surmise that the reason for the " larger waistlines " may be because those who drink diet sodas may tend to make up calories elsewhere. No evidence so far for that theory that I " ve read re: diet sodas and waistlines as if diet sodas cause larger waistlines. Many people in my family drink diet sodas, and they live long lives. They don't have large waistlines. No dementia and no serious ailments well into their old age. I am the only fat one, why, I don't know. I did not inherit the ability to control myself, eat less, eat intuitively, etc. They had those abilities. Not me. I'm tired of struggling, even with IE. I'm not happy eating too much, whatever that means because I don't eat until I'm ready to throw up, I just plain out eat too darn much. If I could eat the same amount of food and not get fat, that would be great. To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Monday, July 18, 2011 11:47 AM Subject: RE: Diet soda I have some pretty strong feeling about diet soda, and it’s not from the diet point of view but from a health point of view. I googled “diet soda dangers” and picked out the following sites. I hope I’m not offending anyone, my previous posts were not answered and I certainly don’t mean to offend, I’m just putting out opinions. To be fair, I also googled “diet soda advantages” but they turned into “disadvantages”. http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=7337013n http://healthland.time.com/2011/06/29/studies-why-diet-sodas-are-no-boon-to-dieters/ http://www.righthealth.com/topic/Dangers_Of_Diet_Soda http://diet.lovetoknow.com/dangers-diet-soda I used to drink lots of diet Pepsi until I learned more about aspartame and sucralose (chemically altered sugar-Splenda http://www.holisticmed.com/splenda/). In friendship, Kate On Behalf Of RainSent: Sunday, July 17, 2011 3:42 PM Subject: Diet soda I'm wondering how people feel about diet soda, and whether you drink it or not. For all my determination to eat " real food, " I still drink diet soda (not from dieting mentality since I actually like it better than regular). I drink it when I want something but am not hungry. Rain Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 25, 2011 Report Share Posted July 25, 2011 Tai, I'm sorry you are having such a hard time. You sound really down right now and unhappy with yourself. At least you don't eat until you throw up. And wouldn't it be so nice to eat whatever and not gain weight? I think I have gained more weight because my clothes are a tighter. I go to a specialist on Wednesday because of " fatty liver disease " (and no I do not drink alcohol at all). I think it may be from eating too much fat and sugar, so I think some of those I will have to give up. How to integrate that with IE. FLD can be very serious and even fatal over time, or lead to a need for liver transplant later on. That really has scared me more than the possibility of developing diabetes. I am sure that many overweight people may have bad liver enzymes and not even know it. Mine was discovered during a routine blood work to check my liver because I am on 2 medications that can affect it. MD took me off one and cut me back on the other. So right now I am feeling like I am in limbo and just waiting to see what happens Wednesday. I find too that the diet drinks increase my desire for sweets and snacking. And especially the caffeine kind cause my mouth to " burn " . That can't be good. I wonder if the diet sodas add weight because of increasing my desire for sweets and snacks. Sorry I went on and on. I do hope you find what works for you. I also am leaning towards focusing on other things, like mild exercise, social activities, hobbies, etc. Anything to get my mind off food and yes even IE. Sandy You actually aren't offending me, I have a tendency not to believe the negative reports about diet soda. And I don't mean the ones that speak about larger waistlines, maybe those are true although they surmise that the reason for the " larger waistlines " may be because those who drink diet sodas may tend to make up calories elsewhere. No evidence so far for that theory that I " ve read re: diet sodas and waistlines as if diet sodas cause larger waistlines. Many people in my family drink diet sodas, and they live long lives. They don't have large waistlines. No dementia and no serious ailments well into their old age. I am the only fat one, why, I don't know. I did not inherit the ability to control myself, eat less, eat intuitively, etc. They had those abilities. Not me. I'm tired of struggling, even with IE. I'm not happy eating too much, whatever that means because I don't eat until I'm ready to throw up, I just plain out eat too darn much. If I could eat the same amount of food and not get fat, that would be great. To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Monday, July 18, 2011 11:47 AM Subject: RE: Diet soda I have some pretty strong feeling about diet soda, and it’s not from the diet point of view but from a health point of view. I googled “diet soda dangers” and picked out the following sites. I hope I’m not offending anyone, my previous posts were not answered and I certainly don’t mean to offend, I’m just putting out opinions. To be fair, I also googled “diet soda advantages” but they turned into “disadvantages”. http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=7337013n http://healthland.time.com/2011/06/29/studies-why-diet-sodas-are-no-boon-to-dieters/ http://www.righthealth.com/topic/Dangers_Of_Diet_Soda http://diet.lovetoknow.com/dangers-diet-soda I used to drink lots of diet Pepsi until I learned more about aspartame and sucralose (chemically altered sugar-Splenda http://www.holisticmed.com/splenda/). In friendship, Kate On Behalf Of RainSent: Sunday, July 17, 2011 3:42 PM Subject: Diet soda I'm wondering how people feel about diet soda, and whether you drink it or not. For all my determination to eat " real food, " I still drink diet soda (not from dieting mentality since I actually like it better than regular). I drink it when I want something but am not hungry. Rain Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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