Guest guest Posted May 2, 2000 Report Share Posted May 2, 2000 > I've only had 2 doses of mtx and I already have mouth sores. Anyone have > any suggestions besides folic acid (I'm already taking 2 1 mg tabs per day). > Thanks. Tery Tery, I have always found that eating Tums helps. Whenever I would feel a sore coming on I would eat a few of them and that seemed to slow them down so they didn't get as bad. ~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 2, 2000 Report Share Posted May 2, 2000 I have also heard that Vit. K helps with mouth sores.. - Sandy and Ruger <A HREF= " http://members.aol.com/tat2edldy/index.html " >Rugie's Page</A> " If there are no dogs in Heaven, then when I die I want to go where they went. " -- Unknown Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 3, 2000 Report Share Posted May 3, 2000 Do you have Cankersores? If so, there is a medication - over the counter - that you can put on it. I don't have the name at my fingertips right now, but let me know, i can look it up. Judy > >Tery, I have always found that eating Tums helps. Whenever I would feel a >sore coming on I would eat a few of them and that seemed to slow them down so >they didn't get as bad. > >~ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 21, 2002 Report Share Posted September 21, 2002 Hey, do any of ya'll have what feels like bone spurs on your jaw bones just above where your teeth are embedded in the bone? On the outer side of the jaw bones that hold the teeth? These of mine have really been painful for the last several months, and am not sure they are spurs, but they sure look like the ones that patrude through my knees and make " bumps/lumps " under the skin. I asked my dentist if you could get bone spurs on the jaw above the teeth like this, he was clueless. Susie bintherdunit@... wrote: > I am having a rough time with mouth sores lately. Mostly on the roof > of my > mouth and on my tongue. I have never had them this bad where they > won't go > away or even get better. Anyone have any ideas? > Stacey in PA > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 22, 2002 Report Share Posted September 22, 2002 Stacey, the mouth sores you are experiencing could be a nicotine withdrawal symptom: " Chemical adjustments in the mouth may cause a small percentage of ex-smokers to suffer from minor mouth irritations. These sores or blisters should heal quickly, but the ex-smoker can see their physician or dentist if the problem persists. " http://www.uni.edu/wellrec/wellness/smoke/recovery.html In addition, " soreness or irritation of mouth or tongue " is listed as one of the less common side-effects of Remicade (infliximab) here: http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/druginfo/infliximabsystemic203667.htm l You could even be experiencing a double whammy, but maybe you could call your doctor and ask about it and what you might do for relief. Sorry! Great job on your quest to quit though! [ ] Mouth sores > I am having a rough time with mouth sores lately. Mostly on the roof of my > mouth and on my tongue. I have never had them this bad where they won't go > away or even get better. Anyone have any ideas? > Stacey in PA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 22, 2002 Report Share Posted September 22, 2002 Hi Stacey, When I had mouth sores my rheumy told me to do two things. First, he had me increase my folic acid to 2 mg for a week. Second, he had me purchase Amosan at the pharmacy. You just want to ask for it, as they kept it behind the counter where I went. It was about $6, and it's packets you dissolve in water. I had terrible mouth sores and they were better in less than 24 hours. They certainly are annoying, and I hope they're better soon. Much love, Carol [ ] Mouth sores I am having a rough time with mouth sores lately. Mostly on the roof of my mouth and on my tongue. I have never had them this bad where they won't go away or even get better. Anyone have any ideas? Stacey in PA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 23, 2002 Report Share Posted September 23, 2002 on 9/21/02 10:58 PM, susan headley at sheadley@... wrote: > Hey, do any of ya'll have what feels like bone spurs on your jaw bones > just above where your teeth are embedded in the bone? On the outer side > of the jaw bones that hold the teeth? These of mine have really been > painful for the last several months, and am not sure they are spurs, but > they sure look like the ones that patrude through my knees and make > " bumps/lumps " under the skin. Susie, Do you think those bumps/lumps on your knees might be rheumatoid nodules? I have the nodules on my elbows and the tops of my hands. I have about concluded that the knots on my knees are also nodules. I had them when I saw my rheumy but hadn't considered then that these might be nodules, too. Nodules feel like hard, like bone, although they're not. What do you think? Sue in NC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 24, 2002 Report Share Posted September 24, 2002 Well the RA Doctor (I fired last year) never would x-ray any bones of complaints. Was always telling me I had NO inflammation (and that was WITH the high blood work on it!) and all kinds of bull. So this past Spring when I went to a SPORTS MED. Dr. He did x-ray joints of complaint. (Knees, hands ankles) Arthritis was the diagnosis. Along with high inflammation. He did take up for the Dr (other one) by saying that because I was so " skinny " that it throws some off as to having " inflammation-swelling " . But in his line of work, he sees " very fit " people with severe inflammation/swelling, that other doctors may not realize because of " size " . But you could tell he was upset the other Dr. never did detective work on this. He showed my my x-rays and explained the inflammation swelling we were looking at, and... THE ARTHRITIS DAMAGE/CHANGES. So he put me on the Medrol dose pak, when finished, put me on 10 mg Pred. daily. (Believe it or not, I went from size 6 pants to my usual 3/4 within 2 weeks! Now, THAT was a LOT of swelling! ...in my own opinion!) Oh... and he did remark that I had so TOO many bone spurs, especially my knees...and showed me on the film...He said, it must be giving me a lot of discomfort and pain due to how they were rubbing. He put me on a form of Pain med. But I keep testing Neg. for the ANA RF. etc. But he also explained that that is sero neg. Whereas the OTHER DOCTOR would not acknowledge the words " Sero neg. " He (the other Dr.) just kept saying my Tendons & ligaments were " eating away at the bone " . Enthosophy? I am not sure of spelling on that right now. Sure makes me wonder where the " other Dr, " got his license. He (Sports Dr.) suspects the same changes in my spine, and that what the " other Dr. " CALLED " severe bursitis of the hips " could be related to the Arthritis and doing damage out of control if I don't see another Dr. for it. But he said he could not do the Spine/hips, as he was not, (in his words) " that kind of Dr. " , and that he would not feel right treating this satisfactorily, and was going to " refer " me. I had to quit going to him then, however, as my Ins. was canceled by my " thrifty " hubby. Susie Sue Plaster2 wrote: > on 9/21/02 10:58 PM, susan headley at sheadley@... wrote: > > > Hey, do any of ya'll have what feels like bone spurs on your jaw > bones > > just above where your teeth are embedded in the bone? On the outer > side > > of the jaw bones that hold the teeth? These of mine have really been > > > painful for the last several months, and am not sure they are spurs, > but > > they sure look like the ones that patrude through my knees and make > > " bumps/lumps " under the skin. > > Susie, > > Do you think those bumps/lumps on your knees might be rheumatoid > nodules? I > have the nodules on my elbows and the tops of my hands. I have about > concluded that the knots on my knees are also nodules. I had them when > I saw > my rheumy but hadn't considered then that these might be nodules, too. > > Nodules feel like hard, like bone, although they're not. What do you > think? > > Sue in NC > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 23, 2003 Report Share Posted April 23, 2003 Katrina, sorry about your mouth sores...ouch...and I hope someone else on the board will have some better information for you. I get sores from some acidic foods, and for some reason pineapple is the worst. I wonder if you've added something new to your diet as you've gotten into CRON. Also, whenever my weight gets a bit too low for me, I tend to chew and bite in my sleep, especially if I've gone to bed slightly hungry. I've torn gashing holes in the side of my mouth and have woken up in terrible pain from biting down hard on my tongue. I don't know what kind of "sores" you're experiencing, but some people do a lot of damage with their teeth to the inside of their cheeks when they're stressed. Finally I'll mention that it's not uncommon to get some sores in your mouth within a few days of visiting your dentist. Have you had any dental work recently? Tincture of Benzoin tastes horrid but works pretty well on canker sores. My dad was a dentist back with the dinosaurs, and that's the old remedy he used to recommend. I don't know if dentists today still use it, but it does work great. Suz ----- Original Message ----- From: Katrina Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2003 12:41 PM Subject: [ ] Mouth sores Hi group, Did anybody else here develop mouth sores when they started a CRON diet? I used to get these in the past when I was malnourished, run down, coeliac, sedentary, and over-worked. However, I have not had any for a couple of years and they have suddenly returned. I have been working hard recently, but I did not think it was hard enough to cause mouth sores. Has anybody else experienced a down-turn in health at the beginning of a CRON diet? Thanks, Katrina. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 23, 2003 Report Share Posted April 23, 2003 Hi, Katrina: For many years I'd get mouth sores when I was under a lot of stress. Long before I started CR. After reading an article about it about 10 years ago, I started taking L-Lysine. I just let one 500 mg tablet dissolve in my mouth each day. That completely eliminated the problem for me. Over the years I did a few trials of stopping the Lysine for a few months, and the sores would come again whenever stress hit. Now I just always take a L-Lysine tablet every day, and I haven't had sores like that in years, even through some *very* stressful events in my life. I don't know if it works better by just swallowing the tablet or letting it dissolve in your mouth, since I've always just let it dissolve -- it has very little taste to it. I assume that method could only be better than swallowing it whole. I get my L-Lysine 500 mg. tablets from GNC (General Nutrition Corporation) stores, but it's widely available. -- Mike O'Gara Hi group, Did anybody else here develop mouth sores when they started a CRON diet? I used to get these in the past when I was malnourished, run down, coeliac, sedentary, and over-worked. However, I have not had any for a couple of years and they have suddenly returned. I have been working hard recently, but I did not think it was hard enough to cause mouth sores. Has anybody else experienced a down-turn in health at the beginning of a CRON diet? Thanks, Katrina. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 24, 2003 Report Share Posted April 24, 2003 I only got them when I have tried large doses of a vit, etc. like vit c 500 mgs, or maybe taurine. Look at your supps. Regards. ----- Original Message ----- From: Katrina Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2003 2:41 PM Subject: [ ] Mouth sores Hi group, Did anybody else here develop mouth sores when they started a CRON diet? I used to get these in the past when I was malnourished, run down, coeliac, sedentary, and over-worked. However, I have not had any for a couple of years and they have suddenly returned. I have been working hard recently, but I did not think it was hard enough to cause mouth sores. Has anybody else experienced a down-turn in health at the beginning of a CRON diet? Thanks, Katrina. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 24, 2003 Report Share Posted April 24, 2003 Hi Katrina, Are you drinking a lot of tea too? Evidently the Tanins can irritate many people. Cheers, > -----Original Message----- > From: Katrina [mailto:katnap@...] > Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2003 1:41 PM > > Subject: [ ] Mouth sores > > > Hi group, > > Did anybody else here develop mouth sores when they started a CRON > diet? I used to get these in the past when I was malnourished, run down, > coeliac, sedentary, and over-worked. However, I have not had any for a > couple of years and they have suddenly returned. I have been > working hard > recently, but I did not think it was hard enough to cause mouth > sores. Has > anybody else experienced a down-turn in health at the beginning > of a CRON diet? > > Thanks, > Katrina. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 24, 2003 Report Share Posted April 24, 2003 My teenage son gets them a lot - I used to when I was a teenager. We are both very sensitive to oranges and get them whenever we consume more than a token amount. Orange zest seems more offensive that the insides. The l-lysine seems to help him. He takes 1g a day. Another thing to try is deglycyrrhated licorice (DGL) - chewing a tablet or more a day will build up the lining of your mouth. It actually will noticeably thicken it and make it stronger. His doctor gave him something called "Magic Mouthwash". It's pretty strong - seems to be mostly antiseptic. He hasn't used it much, since he got over the outbreak that he had during the doctor visit and hasn't had a bad one since. It seems to be worse when you get sick or stressed. I think Suzanne's question is very good - if you've changed your diet, maybe you have a food sensitivity to something you've added. The citrus fruits are especially suspect for mouth sores. I will get the sores from pineapple or grapefruit - but only from a very large quantity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 24, 2003 Report Share Posted April 24, 2003 Hi, I can't speak for oral herpes, but genital herpes responds for some people to a higher lysine diet and somewhat less arginine. For instance, if I eat too much wheat germ and peanuts (very rare) and continue the practice for a few days, I will start itching. The lesions follow. Time resolves the issue if I normalize my diet, which is usually high in lysine, but not especially low in arginine. I think I read about this method of treatment back when I was reading Pearson and Shaw. A long time ago. If my memory is accurate, I appreciate their help in this, and their comment on TV that the only proven life extension strategy was calorie restriction, and they mentioned Roy Walford. In both cases, their counsel proved to be of help. Perhaps, if these sores are oral herpes, they will yield to the lysine tablet method. I haven't tried that, but I seldom need it. Incidentally, Colleen, my beloved, developed a full blown herpes zoster outbreak about a year ago. She was terribly uncomfortable. Diet had no effect. It lasted about 5 months. She's fine now. Don't know why she broke out. Doc says her immune system was weakened, but he didn't know how it might have happened. Herpes zoster is also known as " shingles " and is, in fact, Chicken Pox. Ed S ----- Original Message ----- From: " joesmad2001 " <fernaj@...> < > Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2003 6:56 AM Subject: [ ] Mouth Sores > I too have had mouth sores all my life (since childhood) and my > dentist tells me it's a form of oral herpes. Never will get rid of > it but can minimize it. My wife and both children get them although > my wife and oldest child get them rarely and very mild cases while my > youngest get them as severe and painful as me (yeah, thanks dad!). > They have NOT minimized in intensity or frequency since I have been > on CRON. They have NOT been affected by no supplementation or by > taking a daily multi-vitamin and vitamin C (500 mg) and vitamin E > (400 IE). Citris has no effect other than iritating existing sores. > Lysine does seam to shorten them by a day or so if I start taking > when they first appear. Everytime I bite my lip or tongue I am > guarenteed a breakout of multiple sores. I once read advice about > living with them in high school " Grin and bear it " . > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 11, 2005 Report Share Posted April 11, 2005 Hi .... My mouth sores seemed to be on my inner/upper lip and tip or side of tongue. Mine were equal opportunity mouth sores. lol I think I may up my folic acid and see if it helps. I have noticed my mouth being dry and food tastes different. Bread seems to stick to my mouth and that's no fun. Awww..r/a the gift that keeps on giving.. a Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 13, 2006 Report Share Posted June 13, 2006 I did a search on canker sores and it mentioned it. Also - b6 (200mg/day) is supposed to help with carpel tunnel http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/article/000998.htm Helen P. NW ohio Marcia Stoyle <marciastoyle@...> wrote: Hi, Helen! I did not know b12 was good for mouth sores....thanks for that news, I'll try it....gentle hugs! Marcia Helen wrote: mouth sores which I just upped my b12 and they cleared up. __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2007 Report Share Posted August 18, 2007 Yes, I've experiened mouth sores with exposure but once I started using baking soda they've gotten much better (I don't get them hardly at all). And the baking soda also helps with the coated tongue. Dana > > Did anyone experience mouth sores with their mold exposure? I have > developed mouth sores. I'm worrying they have something to do with > condition of my gi system. Doctor didn't know what they are. Gave me > Nystatin Swish and Swallow on my question could they be from Candida > but only 11 days. He is sooooo conservative with antifungal > medicine. Two years ago when I told him I thought my symptoms could > be from systemic Candidas, and asked for a Rx for Diflucan, he > capitulated after making a " face " and gave me an Rx for ONE TABLET, > which is the appropriate dose for vagina yeast infection. I would > have just used a vinegar douche for that! > Anyway, that didn't help and they are getting worse. > Perhaps I will see if a dentist knows but wonder if anyone else went > through this. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 19, 2007 Report Share Posted August 19, 2007 I asked my internist could it be Herpes and he said no because they would hurt and these don't. They usually show on outside of lips also I think and this is strictly inside but I could check that out. I was checked for Herpes series of viruses last year and tested negative but I didn't have mouth sores then, so don't know. I will make an appointment with dentist. I thought they were from food allergies at first and went to nurses office at work for an antihistamine and she looked at them and thought they looked viral and said I should see my doctor but then he didn't know what they were (month ago)...nothing new there. They look like canker sores but info says canker sores hurt and generally clear up in a few weeks but these don't. Oh well, back to moving. --- In , " Saralee Rosen " <homerose@...> wrote: > > Mouth sores can also be viral based (Herpes I) and may need to be treated > by an anti-viral medication. Your dentist would be a good source to help > you check it out. > > Saralee Rosen > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 19, 2007 Report Share Posted August 19, 2007 I would get a small glass of water maybe 4oz. and put about a half of a table spoon of baking soda and mix then I would use it as a gargle rinse whenever I brushed my teeth. You can do this as much as needed. It doesn't taste to good, it will be salty but it helps. And yes I also have digestive problems. Hope this helps, Dana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 19, 2007 Report Share Posted August 19, 2007 I do not believe these mouth sores are from the herpes virus because I read in one of the many medical / doctor books I have about chronic fatigue that it's not from the herpes virus. Those bumps do tend to be sore and on the outside of your nose or lips but these are simple small bumps on the inside of your mouth that usually don't hurt. I will look up exactly what book has this information and get back to everyone. Dana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 19, 2007 Report Share Posted August 19, 2007 Dana, that is **exactly** what I have, small bumps, some look like blisters but they do not hurt. Sometimes food irritates them and they can feel sore or get larger. --- In , " gsgrl2000 " <gsgrl2000@...> wrote: > > I do not believe these mouth sores are from the herpes virus because > I read in one of the many medical / doctor books I have about chronic > fatigue that it's not from the herpes virus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 19, 2007 Report Share Posted August 19, 2007 Growing up as a kid I used to get them on the insude of the side of my mouth...according to my mother she said it meant that I had to go to the bathroom...so she promptly gave me some ex-lax and they were gone as soon as the laxative did what it was suppose to do. Even my family dr told me the same thing growing up....old wives tale or natural indicator...who knows... On Sun, 19 Aug 2007, gsgrl2000 wrote: > Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2007 22:13:52 -0000 > From: gsgrl2000 <gsgrl2000@...> > Reply- > > Subject: [] Re: mouth sores > > I do not believe these mouth sores are from the herpes virus because > I read in one of the many medical / doctor books I have about chronic > fatigue that it's not from the herpes virus. Those bumps do tend to > be sore and on the outside of your nose or lips but these are simple > small bumps on the inside of your mouth that usually don't hurt. I > will look up exactly what book has this information and get back to > everyone. > > Dana > > > > FAIR USE NOTICE: > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 19, 2007 Report Share Posted August 19, 2007 Mine have been there constantly for several months. Actually came on at beginning of summer. I have soooo much trouble getting through summertime and came at same time as loss of appetite, part of which I have gotten back, but sores still there. > > Growing up as a kid I used to get them on the insude of the side of my > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 20, 2007 Report Share Posted August 20, 2007 Yes you can get mouth sores from herpes (viral) however I believe based on my own experience with mold and from what I've read and researched you can also get mouth sores, especially those inside the mouth that do not tend to hurt and look like small pus filled bumps, from simply having a compromised immune system or weakened immunity that is not viral. The herpes sores tend to hurt and tend to be open. --- In , " Saralee Rosen " <homerose@...> wrote: > > Mouth sores can also be viral based (Herpes I) and may need to be treated > by an anti-viral medication. Your dentist would be a good source to help > you check it out. > > > > Saralee Rosen > > homerose@... > > > > > > Did anyone experience mouth sores with their mold exposure? I have > developed mouth sores. I'm worrying they have something to do with > condition of my gi system. Doctor didn't know what they are. Gave me > Nystatin Swish and Swallow on my question could they be from Candida > but only 11 days. He is sooooo conservative with antifungal > medicine. Two years ago when I told him I thought my symptoms could > be from systemic Candidas, and asked for a Rx for Diflucan, he > capitulated after making a " face " and gave me an Rx for ONE TABLET, > which is the appropriate dose for vagina yeast infection. I would > have just used a vinegar douche for that! > Anyway, that didn't help and they are getting worse. > Perhaps I will see if a dentist knows but wonder if anyone else went > through this. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 20, 2007 Report Share Posted August 20, 2007 It could be something autoimmune. Behcets syndrome has mouth sores as part of its presentation. Typically, patients go undiagnosed for years, even decades. http://www.behcets.com/site/pp.asp?c=bhJIJSOCJrH & b=260521 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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