Re: Think ahead to get ahead . . .

November 2, 2011

Tilly, good points. The crux is to actually like the food you are eating, whether it is a veggie burger or cheese or low-fat yogurt. I like raw cabbage with just a bit of lemon and salt. My father used to make it for me when I was sick and I have good memories of it. I guess to some the idea of raw cabbage would be a wacky and gross "cabbage diet." I guess it's about what is doing the choosing, the mind or the body. I do like the point, too, however, about choosing nutrition within your own framework of preferences. That is where the mind does play a legitimate role. Although that can sometimes get tricky because of the ever changing science of nutrition. For instance I think that full-fat cheese is certain amounts is very healthy, but some may disagree. So I guess it's also about looking at nutrition critically. So many parts! But the best thing is that

we get to be the final decision-makers.

Mimi

Subject: Re: Think ahead to get ahead . . .To: IntuitiveEating_Support Date: Monday, October 31, 2011, 11:39 PM

This is an interesting thing to think about, because I probably would have liked that burger. But then I'm not really into hunks of beef all that much and actually like veggie burgers. But this made me think of something that the women who wrote Intuitive Eating were saying when they finally got to the health section, and how, once you've done all the legalizing and recognizing when you're hungry, and feeling your fullness, and savoring your meals, to consider what's healthy, but that's always within the framework of your preferences. She says that with cheese, she could take it or leave it, so she usually doesn't eat it. It's healthier not to, and since she doesn't really care one way or the other, it's an easy thing to do. I love bread, but don't usually put butter on it, or syrup on pancakes, or sugar in my oatmeal, because I like them just fine without them. But if I felt deprived, I would put those things on them. And now, having made that

list, I'm thinking gee, it looks like I really like grains, which I do--the texture and flavor of them, all by themselves. So I'm not leaving off the butter because I'm being virtuous, or counting calories, or to lose weight, but because, for me, it doesn't add all that much, and unless I get a distinct pleasure from it, I might as well just skip it.I also eat neufchâtel cream cheese because I can't really tell the diffence between it and full fat cream cheese, but I think fat free cream cheese is just about the nastiest thing on earth.But some of the "mock" things are quite good, in and of themselves. I guess it is perhaps a shame that they're pretending to be something else. I like baco-bits, and veggie burgers, and lentil-walnut loaf....mmmmmmmmm.But no thanks on the mock mashed potatoes.....Tilley

November 4, 2011

Interesting post, Tilly,I also like veggie burgers, the ones made from pulses, vegetables and grains. I really hate veggie burgers made from texturized vegetable protein, the stuff that pretends to be meat. Lentil-walnut loaf sounds yummy.As far as cream cheese is concerned, I used to by the regular one for my kids and the light (not fat free!) for myself. Then my kids would eat theirs, and then mine, so I just started buying the light stuff. Now I actually like it better than the full fat cream cheese, and my daughter told me that I had "ruined" her and now she can't eat the regular cream cheese...she finds it nasty. I also really like quark cheese, which is smooth and tasty. Cheescake was always my favorite

cake. Now I can only eat the one my son makes with dry cottage cheese...it is so fresh and yummy and lemony (he puts a whole lemon in it). And as for that mock mashed potatoes............ewwwwCaroleTo: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Monday, October 31, 2011 11:39:25 PMSubject:

Re: Think ahead to get ahead . . .This is an interesting thing to think about, because I probably would have liked that burger. But then I'm not really into hunks of beef all that much and actually like veggie burgers. But this made me think of something that the women who wrote Intuitive Eating were saying when they finally got to the health section, and how, once you've done all the legalizing and recognizing when you're hungry, and feeling your fullness, and savoring your meals, to consider what's healthy, but that's always within the framework of your preferences. She says that with cheese, she could take it or leave it, so she usually doesn't eat it. It's healthier not to, and since she doesn't really care one way or the other, it's an easy thing to do. I love bread, but don't usually put butter on it, or syrup on pancakes, or sugar in my oatmeal, because I like them just fine

without them. But if I felt deprived, I would put those things on them. And now, having made that list, I'm thinking gee, it looks like I really like grains, which I do--the texture and flavor of them, all by themselves. So I'm not leaving off the butter because I'm being virtuous, or counting calories, or to lose weight, but because, for me, it doesn't add all that much, and unless I get a distinct pleasure from it, I might as well just skip it.I also eat neufchÃ¢tel cream cheese because I can't really tell the diffence between it and full fat cream cheese, but I think fat free cream cheese is just about the nastiest thing on earth.But some of the "mock" things are quite good, in and of themselves. I guess it is perhaps a shame that they're pretending to be something else. I like baco-bits, and veggie burgers, and lentil-walnut loaf....mmmmmmmmm.But no thanks on the mock mashed

potatoes.....Tilley> > >> > > No sweetener of any kind in a pie?! Now that is hardcore. LOL.Ãƒâ€šÃ‚ > >>------------------------------------

November 4, 2011

Interesting post, Tilly,I also like veggie burgers, the ones made from pulses, vegetables and grains. I really hate veggie burgers made from texturized vegetable protein, the stuff that pretends to be meat. Lentil-walnut loaf sounds yummy.As far as cream cheese is concerned, I used to by the regular one for my kids and the light (not fat free!) for myself. Then my kids would eat theirs, and then mine, so I just started buying the light stuff. Now I actually like it better than the full fat cream cheese, and my daughter told me that I had "ruined" her and now she can't eat the regular cream cheese...she finds it nasty. I also really like quark cheese, which is smooth and tasty. Cheescake was always my favorite

cake. Now I can only eat the one my son makes with dry cottage cheese...it is so fresh and yummy and lemony (he puts a whole lemon in it). And as for that mock mashed potatoes............ewwwwCaroleTo: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Monday, October 31, 2011 11:39:25 PMSubject:

Re: Think ahead to get ahead . . .This is an interesting thing to think about, because I probably would have liked that burger. But then I'm not really into hunks of beef all that much and actually like veggie burgers. But this made me think of something that the women who wrote Intuitive Eating were saying when they finally got to the health section, and how, once you've done all the legalizing and recognizing when you're hungry, and feeling your fullness, and savoring your meals, to consider what's healthy, but that's always within the framework of your preferences. She says that with cheese, she could take it or leave it, so she usually doesn't eat it. It's healthier not to, and since she doesn't really care one way or the other, it's an easy thing to do. I love bread, but don't usually put butter on it, or syrup on pancakes, or sugar in my oatmeal, because I like them just fine

without them. But if I felt deprived, I would put those things on them. And now, having made that list, I'm thinking gee, it looks like I really like grains, which I do--the texture and flavor of them, all by themselves. So I'm not leaving off the butter because I'm being virtuous, or counting calories, or to lose weight, but because, for me, it doesn't add all that much, and unless I get a distinct pleasure from it, I might as well just skip it.I also eat neufchÃ¢tel cream cheese because I can't really tell the diffence between it and full fat cream cheese, but I think fat free cream cheese is just about the nastiest thing on earth.But some of the "mock" things are quite good, in and of themselves. I guess it is perhaps a shame that they're pretending to be something else. I like baco-bits, and veggie burgers, and lentil-walnut loaf....mmmmmmmmm.But no thanks on the mock mashed

potatoes.....Tilley> > >> > > No sweetener of any kind in a pie?! Now that is hardcore. LOL.Ãƒâ€šÃ‚ > >>------------------------------------

November 4, 2011

Interesting post, Tilly,I also like veggie burgers, the ones made from pulses, vegetables and grains. I really hate veggie burgers made from texturized vegetable protein, the stuff that pretends to be meat. Lentil-walnut loaf sounds yummy.As far as cream cheese is concerned, I used to by the regular one for my kids and the light (not fat free!) for myself. Then my kids would eat theirs, and then mine, so I just started buying the light stuff. Now I actually like it better than the full fat cream cheese, and my daughter told me that I had "ruined" her and now she can't eat the regular cream cheese...she finds it nasty. I also really like quark cheese, which is smooth and tasty. Cheescake was always my favorite

cake. Now I can only eat the one my son makes with dry cottage cheese...it is so fresh and yummy and lemony (he puts a whole lemon in it). And as for that mock mashed potatoes............ewwwwCaroleTo: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Monday, October 31, 2011 11:39:25 PMSubject:

Re: Think ahead to get ahead . . .This is an interesting thing to think about, because I probably would have liked that burger. But then I'm not really into hunks of beef all that much and actually like veggie burgers. But this made me think of something that the women who wrote Intuitive Eating were saying when they finally got to the health section, and how, once you've done all the legalizing and recognizing when you're hungry, and feeling your fullness, and savoring your meals, to consider what's healthy, but that's always within the framework of your preferences. She says that with cheese, she could take it or leave it, so she usually doesn't eat it. It's healthier not to, and since she doesn't really care one way or the other, it's an easy thing to do. I love bread, but don't usually put butter on it, or syrup on pancakes, or sugar in my oatmeal, because I like them just fine

without them. But if I felt deprived, I would put those things on them. And now, having made that list, I'm thinking gee, it looks like I really like grains, which I do--the texture and flavor of them, all by themselves. So I'm not leaving off the butter because I'm being virtuous, or counting calories, or to lose weight, but because, for me, it doesn't add all that much, and unless I get a distinct pleasure from it, I might as well just skip it.I also eat neufchÃ¢tel cream cheese because I can't really tell the diffence between it and full fat cream cheese, but I think fat free cream cheese is just about the nastiest thing on earth.But some of the "mock" things are quite good, in and of themselves. I guess it is perhaps a shame that they're pretending to be something else. I like baco-bits, and veggie burgers, and lentil-walnut loaf....mmmmmmmmm.But no thanks on the mock mashed

potatoes.....Tilley> > >> > > No sweetener of any kind in a pie?! Now that is hardcore. LOL.Ãƒâ€šÃ‚ > >>------------------------------------

November 4, 2011

I've noticed that when I eat the large portion I " think " I want of sweets, I

feel lousy physically afterwards. When I eat a small portion, I fully enjoy

each bite all the way through, and then don't feel either psychological or

physical regret.

Jane

>

> I feel like I've spent most of my life trying to convince myself that granola

and yogurt is equally as tasty as ice cream with brownie chunks. As I've shared

before, I still struggle with wanting the " real thing " and recognizing that the

" real thing " makes me feel terrible, sick...drowsy...doped, etc. I want the

granola and yogurt to taste like Hagen Daas...because I can eat it, because it

makes my body feel good and it seems to fall into that strange mercurial space

between depriving myself of good foods to eat and depriving myself of feeling

well. I continue to try to lean into this...to work on it with inquiry....what

is it that I believe sweet things gives me that I can't get more directly...if

that makes any sense.

>

> Cheers!

>

November 4, 2011