Guest guest Posted June 21, 2011 Report Share Posted June 21, 2011 Carolyn, welcome. Thanks for you openness and honesty. I know what you mean about that " magical " thinking that if I eat it all at once, I will get it out of my system. I realize that I still see these as forbidden foods and perhaps that is the lure of wanting more. I think that there are some foods for me that may be " risky " , " danger " , " trigger " foods. I do not trust myself to have them in the house yet. I think this is part of me process in IE that I am working on and choose to make note of those foods and how I deal with them without judgement. I am fairly new to this process so I will just share what I have found about my journey. Maybe others who have more expertise can help more. Keep posting and remember this is a process/journey. Sandy Friends, I am really going out on a limb here to say that I have gone through the training to be an IE Counselor, I believe in the concepts and have even tried to coach others with them, but, I am really struggling personally with foods. So much that last night and all day today I have been sick due to food choices and bingeing. It was like that old way of thinking happened again, 'I have to get these foods out of my system and so if I eat them all at once then I will be able to let them go.' Crazy, crazy making way of thinking I know. I need to put this out there because I truly need a support system and some advice right now, I am so tired of living like this. I am typically a half-marathon runner and yet in this past year, in trying to adopt an IE lifestyle (but, truth be told - I failed at it!). I have now put on so many pounds that I have even lost my passion for running. On the high end of the scale I need to lose 60 lbs, and become fit once again, to be healthy and 80 lbs to be at my healthiest! I had a goal to do my first triathlon and can't believe it that rather than being closer, I am now so much further away from it. Do you have any suggestions how I might use this group as a support to get me going and sticking with it. I hope that I have finally 'hit bottom' and will find what I require in and through IE, I really don't want to live as someone who is addicted to food and join a food addicts group. My desire is to become a successful IE eater and help others to be so as well. God bless, Carolyn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 21, 2011 Report Share Posted June 21, 2011 Carolyn, welcome. Thanks for you openness and honesty. I know what you mean about that " magical " thinking that if I eat it all at once, I will get it out of my system. I realize that I still see these as forbidden foods and perhaps that is the lure of wanting more. I think that there are some foods for me that may be " risky " , " danger " , " trigger " foods. I do not trust myself to have them in the house yet. I think this is part of me process in IE that I am working on and choose to make note of those foods and how I deal with them without judgement. I am fairly new to this process so I will just share what I have found about my journey. Maybe others who have more expertise can help more. Keep posting and remember this is a process/journey. Sandy Friends, I am really going out on a limb here to say that I have gone through the training to be an IE Counselor, I believe in the concepts and have even tried to coach others with them, but, I am really struggling personally with foods. So much that last night and all day today I have been sick due to food choices and bingeing. It was like that old way of thinking happened again, 'I have to get these foods out of my system and so if I eat them all at once then I will be able to let them go.' Crazy, crazy making way of thinking I know. I need to put this out there because I truly need a support system and some advice right now, I am so tired of living like this. I am typically a half-marathon runner and yet in this past year, in trying to adopt an IE lifestyle (but, truth be told - I failed at it!). I have now put on so many pounds that I have even lost my passion for running. On the high end of the scale I need to lose 60 lbs, and become fit once again, to be healthy and 80 lbs to be at my healthiest! I had a goal to do my first triathlon and can't believe it that rather than being closer, I am now so much further away from it. Do you have any suggestions how I might use this group as a support to get me going and sticking with it. I hope that I have finally 'hit bottom' and will find what I require in and through IE, I really don't want to live as someone who is addicted to food and join a food addicts group. My desire is to become a successful IE eater and help others to be so as well. God bless, Carolyn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 21, 2011 Report Share Posted June 21, 2011 Carolyn, welcome. Thanks for you openness and honesty. I know what you mean about that " magical " thinking that if I eat it all at once, I will get it out of my system. I realize that I still see these as forbidden foods and perhaps that is the lure of wanting more. I think that there are some foods for me that may be " risky " , " danger " , " trigger " foods. I do not trust myself to have them in the house yet. I think this is part of me process in IE that I am working on and choose to make note of those foods and how I deal with them without judgement. I am fairly new to this process so I will just share what I have found about my journey. Maybe others who have more expertise can help more. Keep posting and remember this is a process/journey. Sandy Friends, I am really going out on a limb here to say that I have gone through the training to be an IE Counselor, I believe in the concepts and have even tried to coach others with them, but, I am really struggling personally with foods. So much that last night and all day today I have been sick due to food choices and bingeing. It was like that old way of thinking happened again, 'I have to get these foods out of my system and so if I eat them all at once then I will be able to let them go.' Crazy, crazy making way of thinking I know. I need to put this out there because I truly need a support system and some advice right now, I am so tired of living like this. I am typically a half-marathon runner and yet in this past year, in trying to adopt an IE lifestyle (but, truth be told - I failed at it!). I have now put on so many pounds that I have even lost my passion for running. On the high end of the scale I need to lose 60 lbs, and become fit once again, to be healthy and 80 lbs to be at my healthiest! I had a goal to do my first triathlon and can't believe it that rather than being closer, I am now so much further away from it. Do you have any suggestions how I might use this group as a support to get me going and sticking with it. I hope that I have finally 'hit bottom' and will find what I require in and through IE, I really don't want to live as someone who is addicted to food and join a food addicts group. My desire is to become a successful IE eater and help others to be so as well. God bless, Carolyn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 21, 2011 Report Share Posted June 21, 2011 Carolyn,Maybe your quest to be an " expert " is hampering you?What if you go back to the very beginning? Pretend you are coaching yourself as a client, and pick ONE step to start with... and then go crazy with positive feedback when you achieve even modest goals. Also, try to put the weight loss goals out of your head. i KNOW it's hard... but i truly believe that they are only contributing to your continued gain. the more pressure you put on yourself, the more you will gain. try to make peace with your weight... it's NOT the same as saying you are HAPPY with where you are, only that you accept that this is where you are right now, and you will not obsess about it. i know this must be terribly frustrating and scary. hang in there... all is not lost! i am a runner as well (well, a jogger), or at least, i was before pregnancy. one thing that helped me to ENJOY it more was to back off a bit when i got burned out. i took 3 months off and cross trained one winter, then started up again very slowly. it was a lot more enjoyable after that. my last marathon was a bad experience (i apparently overtrained, and was in pain nearly the whole time), and i think that was the last time i set a running goal. remember, a goal of a distance is an EXTERNAL motivation... i think IE works better if you focus on INTERNAL cues... like feeling great. baby steps!best,abby Carolyn, welcome. Thanks for you openness and honesty. I know what you mean about that " magical " thinking that if I eat it all at once, I will get it out of my system. I realize that I still see these as forbidden foods and perhaps that is the lure of wanting more. I think that there are some foods for me that may be " risky " , " danger " , " trigger " foods. I do not trust myself to have them in the house yet. I think this is part of me process in IE that I am working on and choose to make note of those foods and how I deal with them without judgement. I am fairly new to this process so I will just share what I have found about my journey. Maybe others who have more expertise can help more. Keep posting and remember this is a process/journey. Sandy Friends, I am really going out on a limb here to say that I have gone through the training to be an IE Counselor, I believe in the concepts and have even tried to coach others with them, but, I am really struggling personally with foods. So much that last night and all day today I have been sick due to food choices and bingeing. It was like that old way of thinking happened again, 'I have to get these foods out of my system and so if I eat them all at once then I will be able to let them go.' Crazy, crazy making way of thinking I know. I need to put this out there because I truly need a support system and some advice right now, I am so tired of living like this. I am typically a half-marathon runner and yet in this past year, in trying to adopt an IE lifestyle (but, truth be told - I failed at it!). I have now put on so many pounds that I have even lost my passion for running. On the high end of the scale I need to lose 60 lbs, and become fit once again, to be healthy and 80 lbs to be at my healthiest! I had a goal to do my first triathlon and can't believe it that rather than being closer, I am now so much further away from it. Do you have any suggestions how I might use this group as a support to get me going and sticking with it. I hope that I have finally 'hit bottom' and will find what I require in and through IE, I really don't want to live as someone who is addicted to food and join a food addicts group. My desire is to become a successful IE eater and help others to be so as well. God bless, Carolyn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 21, 2011 Report Share Posted June 21, 2011 Carolyn,Maybe your quest to be an " expert " is hampering you?What if you go back to the very beginning? Pretend you are coaching yourself as a client, and pick ONE step to start with... and then go crazy with positive feedback when you achieve even modest goals. Also, try to put the weight loss goals out of your head. i KNOW it's hard... but i truly believe that they are only contributing to your continued gain. the more pressure you put on yourself, the more you will gain. try to make peace with your weight... it's NOT the same as saying you are HAPPY with where you are, only that you accept that this is where you are right now, and you will not obsess about it. i know this must be terribly frustrating and scary. hang in there... all is not lost! i am a runner as well (well, a jogger), or at least, i was before pregnancy. one thing that helped me to ENJOY it more was to back off a bit when i got burned out. i took 3 months off and cross trained one winter, then started up again very slowly. it was a lot more enjoyable after that. my last marathon was a bad experience (i apparently overtrained, and was in pain nearly the whole time), and i think that was the last time i set a running goal. remember, a goal of a distance is an EXTERNAL motivation... i think IE works better if you focus on INTERNAL cues... like feeling great. baby steps!best,abby Carolyn, welcome. Thanks for you openness and honesty. I know what you mean about that " magical " thinking that if I eat it all at once, I will get it out of my system. I realize that I still see these as forbidden foods and perhaps that is the lure of wanting more. I think that there are some foods for me that may be " risky " , " danger " , " trigger " foods. I do not trust myself to have them in the house yet. I think this is part of me process in IE that I am working on and choose to make note of those foods and how I deal with them without judgement. I am fairly new to this process so I will just share what I have found about my journey. Maybe others who have more expertise can help more. Keep posting and remember this is a process/journey. Sandy Friends, I am really going out on a limb here to say that I have gone through the training to be an IE Counselor, I believe in the concepts and have even tried to coach others with them, but, I am really struggling personally with foods. So much that last night and all day today I have been sick due to food choices and bingeing. It was like that old way of thinking happened again, 'I have to get these foods out of my system and so if I eat them all at once then I will be able to let them go.' Crazy, crazy making way of thinking I know. I need to put this out there because I truly need a support system and some advice right now, I am so tired of living like this. I am typically a half-marathon runner and yet in this past year, in trying to adopt an IE lifestyle (but, truth be told - I failed at it!). I have now put on so many pounds that I have even lost my passion for running. On the high end of the scale I need to lose 60 lbs, and become fit once again, to be healthy and 80 lbs to be at my healthiest! I had a goal to do my first triathlon and can't believe it that rather than being closer, I am now so much further away from it. Do you have any suggestions how I might use this group as a support to get me going and sticking with it. I hope that I have finally 'hit bottom' and will find what I require in and through IE, I really don't want to live as someone who is addicted to food and join a food addicts group. My desire is to become a successful IE eater and help others to be so as well. God bless, Carolyn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 21, 2011 Report Share Posted June 21, 2011 Carolyn,Maybe your quest to be an " expert " is hampering you?What if you go back to the very beginning? Pretend you are coaching yourself as a client, and pick ONE step to start with... and then go crazy with positive feedback when you achieve even modest goals. Also, try to put the weight loss goals out of your head. i KNOW it's hard... but i truly believe that they are only contributing to your continued gain. the more pressure you put on yourself, the more you will gain. try to make peace with your weight... it's NOT the same as saying you are HAPPY with where you are, only that you accept that this is where you are right now, and you will not obsess about it. i know this must be terribly frustrating and scary. hang in there... all is not lost! i am a runner as well (well, a jogger), or at least, i was before pregnancy. one thing that helped me to ENJOY it more was to back off a bit when i got burned out. i took 3 months off and cross trained one winter, then started up again very slowly. it was a lot more enjoyable after that. my last marathon was a bad experience (i apparently overtrained, and was in pain nearly the whole time), and i think that was the last time i set a running goal. remember, a goal of a distance is an EXTERNAL motivation... i think IE works better if you focus on INTERNAL cues... like feeling great. baby steps!best,abby Carolyn, welcome. Thanks for you openness and honesty. I know what you mean about that " magical " thinking that if I eat it all at once, I will get it out of my system. I realize that I still see these as forbidden foods and perhaps that is the lure of wanting more. I think that there are some foods for me that may be " risky " , " danger " , " trigger " foods. I do not trust myself to have them in the house yet. I think this is part of me process in IE that I am working on and choose to make note of those foods and how I deal with them without judgement. I am fairly new to this process so I will just share what I have found about my journey. Maybe others who have more expertise can help more. Keep posting and remember this is a process/journey. Sandy Friends, I am really going out on a limb here to say that I have gone through the training to be an IE Counselor, I believe in the concepts and have even tried to coach others with them, but, I am really struggling personally with foods. So much that last night and all day today I have been sick due to food choices and bingeing. It was like that old way of thinking happened again, 'I have to get these foods out of my system and so if I eat them all at once then I will be able to let them go.' Crazy, crazy making way of thinking I know. I need to put this out there because I truly need a support system and some advice right now, I am so tired of living like this. I am typically a half-marathon runner and yet in this past year, in trying to adopt an IE lifestyle (but, truth be told - I failed at it!). I have now put on so many pounds that I have even lost my passion for running. On the high end of the scale I need to lose 60 lbs, and become fit once again, to be healthy and 80 lbs to be at my healthiest! I had a goal to do my first triathlon and can't believe it that rather than being closer, I am now so much further away from it. Do you have any suggestions how I might use this group as a support to get me going and sticking with it. I hope that I have finally 'hit bottom' and will find what I require in and through IE, I really don't want to live as someone who is addicted to food and join a food addicts group. My desire is to become a successful IE eater and help others to be so as well. God bless, Carolyn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 21, 2011 Report Share Posted June 21, 2011 Carolyn I notice your last paragraph--you say you need to " get going and stick with it. " Sounds like you're scolding yourself. In which case, your inner child will need to get back at your inner parent, guess how? When ever I see (or use on myself) words like " buckle down " or I've GOT to " I know I MUST change the " argument " --Now I talk to myself lovingly, call myself loving names, and remind myself of good things I do. (As in Sweetie Pie, Foggy, you've done so well in so many ways. Your inner essence is right here, waiting for when you're ready to release it just a little bit..honey bunny, it's OK about what you had yesterday...today is a new day, etc.) I suggest you buy yourself some flowers, today! Do some self-care, clean out some drawers, listen to some fav music, go to a museum, whatever makes you glow best Foggy > > Friends, > I am really going out on a limb here to say that I have gone through the training to be an IE Counselor, I believe in the concepts and have even tried to coach others with them, but, I am really struggling personally with foods. > > So much that last night and all day today I have been sick due to food choices and bingeing. It was like that old way of thinking happened again, 'I have to get these foods out of my system and so if I eat them all at once then I will be able to let them go.' Crazy, crazy making way of thinking I know. > > I need to put this out there because I truly need a support system and some advice right now, I am so tired of living like this. I am typically a half-marathon runner and yet in this past year, in trying to adopt an IE lifestyle (but, truth be told - I failed at it!). I have now put on so many pounds that I have even lost my passion for running. On the high end of the scale I need to lose 60 lbs, and become fit once again, to be healthy and 80 lbs to be at my healthiest! I had a goal to do my first triathlon and can't believe it that rather than being closer, I am now so much further away from it. > > Do you have any suggestions how I might use this group as a support to get me going and sticking with it. I hope that I have finally 'hit bottom' and will find what I require in and through IE, I really don't want to live as someone who is addicted to food and join a food addicts group. My desire is to become a successful IE eater and help others to be so as well. > > God bless, > > Carolyn > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 21, 2011 Report Share Posted June 21, 2011 Carolyn I notice your last paragraph--you say you need to " get going and stick with it. " Sounds like you're scolding yourself. In which case, your inner child will need to get back at your inner parent, guess how? When ever I see (or use on myself) words like " buckle down " or I've GOT to " I know I MUST change the " argument " --Now I talk to myself lovingly, call myself loving names, and remind myself of good things I do. (As in Sweetie Pie, Foggy, you've done so well in so many ways. Your inner essence is right here, waiting for when you're ready to release it just a little bit..honey bunny, it's OK about what you had yesterday...today is a new day, etc.) I suggest you buy yourself some flowers, today! Do some self-care, clean out some drawers, listen to some fav music, go to a museum, whatever makes you glow best Foggy > > Friends, > I am really going out on a limb here to say that I have gone through the training to be an IE Counselor, I believe in the concepts and have even tried to coach others with them, but, I am really struggling personally with foods. > > So much that last night and all day today I have been sick due to food choices and bingeing. It was like that old way of thinking happened again, 'I have to get these foods out of my system and so if I eat them all at once then I will be able to let them go.' Crazy, crazy making way of thinking I know. > > I need to put this out there because I truly need a support system and some advice right now, I am so tired of living like this. I am typically a half-marathon runner and yet in this past year, in trying to adopt an IE lifestyle (but, truth be told - I failed at it!). I have now put on so many pounds that I have even lost my passion for running. On the high end of the scale I need to lose 60 lbs, and become fit once again, to be healthy and 80 lbs to be at my healthiest! I had a goal to do my first triathlon and can't believe it that rather than being closer, I am now so much further away from it. > > Do you have any suggestions how I might use this group as a support to get me going and sticking with it. I hope that I have finally 'hit bottom' and will find what I require in and through IE, I really don't want to live as someone who is addicted to food and join a food addicts group. My desire is to become a successful IE eater and help others to be so as well. > > God bless, > > Carolyn > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 21, 2011 Report Share Posted June 21, 2011 Carolyn I notice your last paragraph--you say you need to " get going and stick with it. " Sounds like you're scolding yourself. In which case, your inner child will need to get back at your inner parent, guess how? When ever I see (or use on myself) words like " buckle down " or I've GOT to " I know I MUST change the " argument " --Now I talk to myself lovingly, call myself loving names, and remind myself of good things I do. (As in Sweetie Pie, Foggy, you've done so well in so many ways. Your inner essence is right here, waiting for when you're ready to release it just a little bit..honey bunny, it's OK about what you had yesterday...today is a new day, etc.) I suggest you buy yourself some flowers, today! Do some self-care, clean out some drawers, listen to some fav music, go to a museum, whatever makes you glow best Foggy > > Friends, > I am really going out on a limb here to say that I have gone through the training to be an IE Counselor, I believe in the concepts and have even tried to coach others with them, but, I am really struggling personally with foods. > > So much that last night and all day today I have been sick due to food choices and bingeing. It was like that old way of thinking happened again, 'I have to get these foods out of my system and so if I eat them all at once then I will be able to let them go.' Crazy, crazy making way of thinking I know. > > I need to put this out there because I truly need a support system and some advice right now, I am so tired of living like this. I am typically a half-marathon runner and yet in this past year, in trying to adopt an IE lifestyle (but, truth be told - I failed at it!). I have now put on so many pounds that I have even lost my passion for running. On the high end of the scale I need to lose 60 lbs, and become fit once again, to be healthy and 80 lbs to be at my healthiest! I had a goal to do my first triathlon and can't believe it that rather than being closer, I am now so much further away from it. > > Do you have any suggestions how I might use this group as a support to get me going and sticking with it. I hope that I have finally 'hit bottom' and will find what I require in and through IE, I really don't want to live as someone who is addicted to food and join a food addicts group. My desire is to become a successful IE eater and help others to be so as well. > > God bless, > > Carolyn > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 21, 2011 Report Share Posted June 21, 2011 Hi, Carolyn. I think we're all going through something very similar, although I'm not training to be a coach, I am thoroughly convinced that waiting until I'm hungry to eat is the best way to go. My problem is what happens when I'm faced with food and I'm not hungry? Like today we're invited to a BBQ and I know I'm not going to have the foods I really want (hamburger and hot dogs on buns + potato salad just aren't my style of food right now). I'm thinking to simply bring my own tomatoes (I know the host won't have any) and maybe even slice up some onion to bring -- Are you eating when you are not hungry because you think you can't have any more? I am getting over that when I realize that I can always have more later if I am hungry and if I want to have the items in question. But tp answer your point and hopefully encourage you, I did what you're doing for over a year. Everything I saw that might taste good which I would have denied myself before, I would thus eat, and eat until I absolutely could not eat any more. Yessssss I must admit that after a year or so of doing this, I finally weighed myself and gasped in horror when I saw just how much weight I had gained. Now it's a struggle to lose weight, but you know what? I stopped eating all the junk, and I do mean junk. I am learning to think about and like and look forward to "good" food. And the most important thing is first to eat only when you're really hungry. It's not always easy, because food is so lovely, and because it can be placed in a social setting before you. Yup ... finally, in my old age, my mind is changing. That is a big big baby step for me. When you're eating that stuff, do you stop and think that if you really want that stuff, you can have it later? Are you hungry when you eat the items you really seem to not want to eat? I mean, just because it's pizza, ice cream, or candy, cake, etc., does not MEAN that you have to eat them, does it? But I did it for over a year. And yes, now I'm over that phase. Hope you don't take a year or so to get over your overwhelming urge to eat anything handy because it might taste good. I noticed when I did that, the candy (which I never ate in mass quantity for a long time before) really did not taste that good anyway, even though I kept eating it ad nauseum. Hope this helps. Tai To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Monday, June 20, 2011 10:19 PMSubject: Support Needed! Friends,I am really going out on a limb here to say that I have gone through the training to be an IE Counselor, I believe in the concepts and have even tried to coach others with them, but, I am really struggling personally with foods.So much that last night and all day today I have been sick due to food choices and bingeing. It was like that old way of thinking happened again, 'I have to get these foods out of my system and so if I eat them all at once then I will be able to let them go.' Crazy, crazy making way of thinking I know.I need to put this out there because I truly need a support system and some advice right now, I am so tired of living like this. I am typically a half-marathon runner and yet in this past year, in trying to adopt an IE lifestyle (but, truth be told - I failed at it!). I have now put on so many pounds that I have even lost my passion for running. On the high end of the scale I need to lose 60 lbs, and become fit once again, to be healthy and 80 lbs to be at my healthiest! I had a goal to do my first triathlon and can't believe it that rather than being closer, I am now so much further away from it.Do you have any suggestions how I might use this group as a support to get me going and sticking with it. I hope that I have finally 'hit bottom' and will find what I require in and through IE, I really don't want to live as someone who is addicted to food and join a food addicts group. My desire is to become a successful IE eater and help others to be so as well.God bless,Carolyn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 21, 2011 Report Share Posted June 21, 2011 Hi, Carolyn. I think we're all going through something very similar, although I'm not training to be a coach, I am thoroughly convinced that waiting until I'm hungry to eat is the best way to go. My problem is what happens when I'm faced with food and I'm not hungry? Like today we're invited to a BBQ and I know I'm not going to have the foods I really want (hamburger and hot dogs on buns + potato salad just aren't my style of food right now). I'm thinking to simply bring my own tomatoes (I know the host won't have any) and maybe even slice up some onion to bring -- Are you eating when you are not hungry because you think you can't have any more? I am getting over that when I realize that I can always have more later if I am hungry and if I want to have the items in question. But tp answer your point and hopefully encourage you, I did what you're doing for over a year. Everything I saw that might taste good which I would have denied myself before, I would thus eat, and eat until I absolutely could not eat any more. Yessssss I must admit that after a year or so of doing this, I finally weighed myself and gasped in horror when I saw just how much weight I had gained. Now it's a struggle to lose weight, but you know what? I stopped eating all the junk, and I do mean junk. I am learning to think about and like and look forward to "good" food. And the most important thing is first to eat only when you're really hungry. It's not always easy, because food is so lovely, and because it can be placed in a social setting before you. Yup ... finally, in my old age, my mind is changing. That is a big big baby step for me. When you're eating that stuff, do you stop and think that if you really want that stuff, you can have it later? Are you hungry when you eat the items you really seem to not want to eat? I mean, just because it's pizza, ice cream, or candy, cake, etc., does not MEAN that you have to eat them, does it? But I did it for over a year. And yes, now I'm over that phase. Hope you don't take a year or so to get over your overwhelming urge to eat anything handy because it might taste good. I noticed when I did that, the candy (which I never ate in mass quantity for a long time before) really did not taste that good anyway, even though I kept eating it ad nauseum. Hope this helps. Tai To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Monday, June 20, 2011 10:19 PMSubject: Support Needed! Friends,I am really going out on a limb here to say that I have gone through the training to be an IE Counselor, I believe in the concepts and have even tried to coach others with them, but, I am really struggling personally with foods.So much that last night and all day today I have been sick due to food choices and bingeing. It was like that old way of thinking happened again, 'I have to get these foods out of my system and so if I eat them all at once then I will be able to let them go.' Crazy, crazy making way of thinking I know.I need to put this out there because I truly need a support system and some advice right now, I am so tired of living like this. I am typically a half-marathon runner and yet in this past year, in trying to adopt an IE lifestyle (but, truth be told - I failed at it!). I have now put on so many pounds that I have even lost my passion for running. On the high end of the scale I need to lose 60 lbs, and become fit once again, to be healthy and 80 lbs to be at my healthiest! I had a goal to do my first triathlon and can't believe it that rather than being closer, I am now so much further away from it.Do you have any suggestions how I might use this group as a support to get me going and sticking with it. I hope that I have finally 'hit bottom' and will find what I require in and through IE, I really don't want to live as someone who is addicted to food and join a food addicts group. My desire is to become a successful IE eater and help others to be so as well.God bless,Carolyn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 21, 2011 Report Share Posted June 21, 2011 Hi, Carolyn. I think we're all going through something very similar, although I'm not training to be a coach, I am thoroughly convinced that waiting until I'm hungry to eat is the best way to go. My problem is what happens when I'm faced with food and I'm not hungry? Like today we're invited to a BBQ and I know I'm not going to have the foods I really want (hamburger and hot dogs on buns + potato salad just aren't my style of food right now). I'm thinking to simply bring my own tomatoes (I know the host won't have any) and maybe even slice up some onion to bring -- Are you eating when you are not hungry because you think you can't have any more? I am getting over that when I realize that I can always have more later if I am hungry and if I want to have the items in question. But tp answer your point and hopefully encourage you, I did what you're doing for over a year. Everything I saw that might taste good which I would have denied myself before, I would thus eat, and eat until I absolutely could not eat any more. Yessssss I must admit that after a year or so of doing this, I finally weighed myself and gasped in horror when I saw just how much weight I had gained. Now it's a struggle to lose weight, but you know what? I stopped eating all the junk, and I do mean junk. I am learning to think about and like and look forward to "good" food. And the most important thing is first to eat only when you're really hungry. It's not always easy, because food is so lovely, and because it can be placed in a social setting before you. Yup ... finally, in my old age, my mind is changing. That is a big big baby step for me. When you're eating that stuff, do you stop and think that if you really want that stuff, you can have it later? Are you hungry when you eat the items you really seem to not want to eat? I mean, just because it's pizza, ice cream, or candy, cake, etc., does not MEAN that you have to eat them, does it? But I did it for over a year. And yes, now I'm over that phase. Hope you don't take a year or so to get over your overwhelming urge to eat anything handy because it might taste good. I noticed when I did that, the candy (which I never ate in mass quantity for a long time before) really did not taste that good anyway, even though I kept eating it ad nauseum. Hope this helps. Tai To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Monday, June 20, 2011 10:19 PMSubject: Support Needed! Friends,I am really going out on a limb here to say that I have gone through the training to be an IE Counselor, I believe in the concepts and have even tried to coach others with them, but, I am really struggling personally with foods.So much that last night and all day today I have been sick due to food choices and bingeing. It was like that old way of thinking happened again, 'I have to get these foods out of my system and so if I eat them all at once then I will be able to let them go.' Crazy, crazy making way of thinking I know.I need to put this out there because I truly need a support system and some advice right now, I am so tired of living like this. I am typically a half-marathon runner and yet in this past year, in trying to adopt an IE lifestyle (but, truth be told - I failed at it!). I have now put on so many pounds that I have even lost my passion for running. On the high end of the scale I need to lose 60 lbs, and become fit once again, to be healthy and 80 lbs to be at my healthiest! I had a goal to do my first triathlon and can't believe it that rather than being closer, I am now so much further away from it.Do you have any suggestions how I might use this group as a support to get me going and sticking with it. I hope that I have finally 'hit bottom' and will find what I require in and through IE, I really don't want to live as someone who is addicted to food and join a food addicts group. My desire is to become a successful IE eater and help others to be so as well.God bless,Carolyn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 21, 2011 Report Share Posted June 21, 2011 Foggy, what a lovely way to talk to yourself. I'm working on that, too. :-) I tend to project what other people may think of me, and so I take it out on myself internally, but I am truly learning not to overeat. I hope that makes sense. Yes, it does take not work, as they say, but reflection. Learning a new way to think. Tai To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2011 10:12 AMSubject: Re: Support Needed! CarolynI notice your last paragraph--you say you need to "get going and stick with it." Sounds like you're scolding yourself. In which case, your inner child will need to get back at your inner parent, guess how?When ever I see (or use on myself) words like "buckle down" or I've GOT to" I know I MUST change the "argument" --Now I talk to myself lovingly, call myself loving names, and remind myself of good things I do. (As in Sweetie Pie, Foggy, you've done so well in so many ways. Your inner essence is right here, waiting for when you're ready to release it just a little bit..honey bunny, it's OK about what you had yesterday...today is a new day, etc.)I suggest you buy yourself some flowers, today! Do some self-care, clean out some drawers, listen to some fav music, go to a museum, whatever makes you glowbestFoggy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 21, 2011 Report Share Posted June 21, 2011 Foggy, what a lovely way to talk to yourself. I'm working on that, too. :-) I tend to project what other people may think of me, and so I take it out on myself internally, but I am truly learning not to overeat. I hope that makes sense. Yes, it does take not work, as they say, but reflection. Learning a new way to think. Tai To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2011 10:12 AMSubject: Re: Support Needed! CarolynI notice your last paragraph--you say you need to "get going and stick with it." Sounds like you're scolding yourself. In which case, your inner child will need to get back at your inner parent, guess how?When ever I see (or use on myself) words like "buckle down" or I've GOT to" I know I MUST change the "argument" --Now I talk to myself lovingly, call myself loving names, and remind myself of good things I do. (As in Sweetie Pie, Foggy, you've done so well in so many ways. Your inner essence is right here, waiting for when you're ready to release it just a little bit..honey bunny, it's OK about what you had yesterday...today is a new day, etc.)I suggest you buy yourself some flowers, today! Do some self-care, clean out some drawers, listen to some fav music, go to a museum, whatever makes you glowbestFoggy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 21, 2011 Report Share Posted June 21, 2011 Foggy, what a lovely way to talk to yourself. I'm working on that, too. :-) I tend to project what other people may think of me, and so I take it out on myself internally, but I am truly learning not to overeat. I hope that makes sense. Yes, it does take not work, as they say, but reflection. Learning a new way to think. Tai To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2011 10:12 AMSubject: Re: Support Needed! CarolynI notice your last paragraph--you say you need to "get going and stick with it." Sounds like you're scolding yourself. In which case, your inner child will need to get back at your inner parent, guess how?When ever I see (or use on myself) words like "buckle down" or I've GOT to" I know I MUST change the "argument" --Now I talk to myself lovingly, call myself loving names, and remind myself of good things I do. (As in Sweetie Pie, Foggy, you've done so well in so many ways. Your inner essence is right here, waiting for when you're ready to release it just a little bit..honey bunny, it's OK about what you had yesterday...today is a new day, etc.)I suggest you buy yourself some flowers, today! Do some self-care, clean out some drawers, listen to some fav music, go to a museum, whatever makes you glowbestFoggy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 21, 2011 Report Share Posted June 21, 2011 Hi, Sandy and Carolyn. First, Sandy, I agree with you that this is a process, a journey. Thanks for your support. And Carolyn, you will know when you hit rock bottom. I sure did. And that is what helped me turn around. If you're not sure you've hit rock bottom, maybe you have not. BUT -- keep in mind not to get discouraged, although it isn't good for me to keep gaining weight, but like Sandy said, it is a journey. We're all working towards the same goal -- that of mindful, cognitive and hopefully, healthful eating. If you want to eat candy, go ahead and eat it. Perhaps you can think of it as a meal? I mean, it takes time for you to get there, but if you want to, you will. That's the way it works. Tai To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2011 7:28 AMSubject: Re: Support Needed! Carolyn, welcome. Thanks for you openness and honesty. I know what you mean about that "magical" thinking that if I eat it all at once, I will get it out of my system. I realize that I still see these as forbidden foods and perhaps that is the lure of wanting more. I think that there are some foods for me that may be "risky", "danger", "trigger" foods. I do not trust myself to have them in the house yet. I think this is part of me process in IE that I am working on and choose to make note of those foods and how I deal with them without judgement. I am fairly new to this process so I will just share what I have found about my journey. Maybe others who have more expertise can help more. Keep posting and remember this is a process/journey. Sandy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 21, 2011 Report Share Posted June 21, 2011 Hi, Sandy and Carolyn. First, Sandy, I agree with you that this is a process, a journey. Thanks for your support. And Carolyn, you will know when you hit rock bottom. I sure did. And that is what helped me turn around. If you're not sure you've hit rock bottom, maybe you have not. BUT -- keep in mind not to get discouraged, although it isn't good for me to keep gaining weight, but like Sandy said, it is a journey. We're all working towards the same goal -- that of mindful, cognitive and hopefully, healthful eating. If you want to eat candy, go ahead and eat it. Perhaps you can think of it as a meal? I mean, it takes time for you to get there, but if you want to, you will. That's the way it works. Tai To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2011 7:28 AMSubject: Re: Support Needed! Carolyn, welcome. Thanks for you openness and honesty. I know what you mean about that "magical" thinking that if I eat it all at once, I will get it out of my system. I realize that I still see these as forbidden foods and perhaps that is the lure of wanting more. I think that there are some foods for me that may be "risky", "danger", "trigger" foods. I do not trust myself to have them in the house yet. I think this is part of me process in IE that I am working on and choose to make note of those foods and how I deal with them without judgement. I am fairly new to this process so I will just share what I have found about my journey. Maybe others who have more expertise can help more. Keep posting and remember this is a process/journey. Sandy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 21, 2011 Report Share Posted June 21, 2011 Hi, Sandy and Carolyn. First, Sandy, I agree with you that this is a process, a journey. Thanks for your support. And Carolyn, you will know when you hit rock bottom. I sure did. And that is what helped me turn around. If you're not sure you've hit rock bottom, maybe you have not. BUT -- keep in mind not to get discouraged, although it isn't good for me to keep gaining weight, but like Sandy said, it is a journey. We're all working towards the same goal -- that of mindful, cognitive and hopefully, healthful eating. If you want to eat candy, go ahead and eat it. Perhaps you can think of it as a meal? I mean, it takes time for you to get there, but if you want to, you will. That's the way it works. Tai To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2011 7:28 AMSubject: Re: Support Needed! Carolyn, welcome. Thanks for you openness and honesty. I know what you mean about that "magical" thinking that if I eat it all at once, I will get it out of my system. I realize that I still see these as forbidden foods and perhaps that is the lure of wanting more. I think that there are some foods for me that may be "risky", "danger", "trigger" foods. I do not trust myself to have them in the house yet. I think this is part of me process in IE that I am working on and choose to make note of those foods and how I deal with them without judgement. I am fairly new to this process so I will just share what I have found about my journey. Maybe others who have more expertise can help more. Keep posting and remember this is a process/journey. Sandy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 21, 2011 Report Share Posted June 21, 2011 Tai; I appreciate the reminder of the process, and nott to get hung up on the shame, if I eat unhealthy foods. Thanks, To: IntuitiveEating_Support From: tailyngrey@...Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2011 07:55:53 -0700Subject: Re: Support Needed! Hi, Sandy and Carolyn. First, Sandy, I agree with you that this is a process, a journey. Thanks for your support. And Carolyn, you will know when you hit rock bottom. I sure did. And that is what helped me turn around. If you're not sure you've hit rock bottom, maybe you have not. BUT -- keep in mind not to get discouraged, although it isn't good for me to keep gaining weight, but like Sandy said, it is a journey. We're all working towards the same goal -- that of mindful, cognitive and hopefully, healthful eating. If you want to eat candy, go ahead and eat it. Perhaps you can think of it as a meal? I mean, it takes time for you to get there, but if you want to, you will. That's the way it works. Tai Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 21, 2011 Report Share Posted June 21, 2011 Thank you Sandy for your encouragement to keep coming back. Carolyn > > Carolyn, welcome. Thanks for you openness and honesty. I know what you mean Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 21, 2011 Report Share Posted June 21, 2011 Thanks Abi, yes there is definitely a huge part of me that would like to say that I have got it all down pat. I think I posted the weight bit primarily to be honest and to let others know what I am struggling with. Now to let it go and to take as you say 'baby steps' to wellness. I truly appreciate all the encouragement. Carolyn > > Carolyn, > > Maybe your quest to be an " expert " is hampering you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 21, 2011 Report Share Posted June 21, 2011 Hi Tai, I have to believe that this time I have hit rock bottom. God knows I am ready to change things and so with support, perhaps I can do so. Thanks! Carolyn > > Hi, Sandy and Carolyn. First, Sandy, I agree with you that this is a process, a journey. Thanks for your support. And Carolyn, you will know when you hit rock bottom. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 21, 2011 Report Share Posted June 21, 2011 Foggy, Thanks for your note. I know I have to find more ways to add more comfort to my life. Your words reminded me of this! I am going to buy myself some flowers and remind myself of the best aspects of this journey. Carolyn > I suggest you buy yourself some flowers, today! Do some self-care, clean out some drawers, listen to some fav music, go to a museum, whatever makes you glow > > best > Foggy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 21, 2011 Report Share Posted June 21, 2011 Thanks Tai, I am hoping that I am getting over my last binge right now. I am still feeling sick from the other night. I believe you know exactly what I have been through and where I so desire to be headed and so hopefully together we will get there, one day at a time. Carolyn > > Hi, Carolyn. I think we're all going through something very similar, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 21, 2011 Report Share Posted June 21, 2011 Yes, indeedie, Carolyn. One day at a time. It is an individual journey, and no one can tell another what to do (that's called a diet), but it is truly important to recognize hunger and full signals. Today we ate at a friend's house -- I was not particularly hungry, but he placed a big steak and potatoes and other goodies in front of me. I ate some and decided to wrap up the rest and take it home. I'm not going to kill myself figuratively speaking, of course, because I was not particularly hungry when I sat down to ate and so I ate. I'm going to be careful now, however. I actually enjoy waiting until i'm hungry enough to eat now. Tai To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2011 5:30 PMSubject: Re: Support Needed! Thanks Tai,I am hoping that I am getting over my last binge right now. I am still feeling sick from the other night. I believe you know exactly what I have been through and where I so desire to be headed and so hopefully together we will get there, one day at a time.Carolyn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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