Guest guest Posted November 20, 2011 Report Share Posted November 20, 2011 I was looking through the archives and found a discussion about overeaters anonymous that took place last July. I think that with the right support of like-minded IE people, these two combined could work for me. I read there was a yahoo group that focused on the combination. Does anyone know how to find it? I’ve looked at the yahoo site but couldn’t find it. Any help is greatly appreciated! Kate in Spokane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 21, 2011 Report Share Posted November 21, 2011 Kate, did you follow the discussion all the way thru? You can do that at the group Yahoo site by scrolling down to the thread outline for any post. I remember that discussion happening, but I don't remember if the members who appreciated OA remained active here. Sorry but I never heard of such a 'blended' group, but with IE each person finds and uses whatever works for them so maybe there are those who do. To me the idea of a list of undesirable foods (don't know OA term) is way too diet-ish and would definitely trigger my diet rebel. But really how different is that from knowing that there are foods I don't enjoy eating and that my body doesn't appreciate? Guess its the source of the 'list'?!? As long as its of my/your choosing, if it works - use it! Best wishes, Katcha IEing since March 2007 > > I was looking through the archives and found a discussion about overeaters > anonymous that took place last July. I think that with the right support of > like-minded IE people, these two combined could work for me. I read there > was a yahoo group that focused on the combination. Does anyone know how to > find it? I've looked at the yahoo site but couldn't find it. > > > > Any help is greatly appreciated! > > > > Kate in Spokane > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 22, 2011 Report Share Posted November 22, 2011 Thanks, Katcha. I’ll go back and read more. I did read quite a bit, but maybe there’ll be more. I contacted the person who mentioned it, but haven’t heard back. A lot of OA’ers use the abstinence part for sugar or flour, etc., but I feel abstinence could be abstaining from overeating or abstaining from eating when I’m not hungry. There are a lot of things people are doing that I have done in the past and it just didn’t work for me. I definitely would not let go of IE but I think dealing with the addictive part might help me. Thanks for responding. Kate From: IntuitiveEating_Support [mailto:IntuitiveEating_Support ] On Behalf Of jain_daugh Sent: Monday, November 21, 2011 7:55 AM To: IntuitiveEating_Support Subject: Re: IE combined with OA Kate, did you follow the discussion all the way thru? You can do that at the group Yahoo site by scrolling down to the thread outline for any post. I remember that discussion happening, but I don't remember if the members who appreciated OA remained active here. Sorry but I never heard of such a 'blended' group, but with IE each person finds and uses whatever works for them so maybe there are those who do. To me the idea of a list of undesirable foods (don't know OA term) is way too diet-ish and would definitely trigger my diet rebel. But really how different is that from knowing that there are foods I don't enjoy eating and that my body doesn't appreciate? Guess its the source of the 'list'?!? As long as its of my/your choosing, if it works - use it! Best wishes, Katcha IEing since March 2007 > > I was looking through the archives and found a discussion about overeaters > anonymous that took place last July. I think that with the right support of > like-minded IE people, these two combined could work for me. I read there > was a yahoo group that focused on the combination. Does anyone know how to > find it? I've looked at the yahoo site but couldn't find it. > > > > Any help is greatly appreciated! > > > > Kate in Spokane > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 23, 2011 Report Share Posted November 23, 2011 IE also includes delving into 'behind the scenes' stuff like emotions and old learned behaviors. I have participated and benefited from '12 step' type groups (Al-Anon and adult children of dysfunctional families) but I eventually found the same steps that were initially comforting (known/directional) later constricting and not encouraging of me to go 'beyond' them. Do give this a try for your own self! We all have different ways of learning and you could end up expanding our horizons too! Best to you, Katcha IEing since March 2007 > OA just might > work. It deals with the stuff behind the scenes, behind the feelings. > > Any feedback is certainly appreciated. > > Kate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 23, 2011 Report Share Posted November 23, 2011 I personally don't connect eating with addiction. That topic has raged thru this group a number of times before and ends up being as polarized an issue as abortion so I hope that won't happen again. I certainly could be wrong and I do think there are some manufactured 'food' products that my body does not do well eating. But not eating them is my choice, not a mandate due to any 'addiction' in my mind. Katcha > > I think the addictive part would apply. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 23, 2011 Report Share Posted November 23, 2011 I personally don't connect eating with addiction. That topic has raged thru this group a number of times before and ends up being as polarized an issue as abortion so I hope that won't happen again. I certainly could be wrong and I do think there are some manufactured 'food' products that my body does not do well eating. But not eating them is my choice, not a mandate due to any 'addiction' in my mind. Katcha > > I think the addictive part would apply. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 23, 2011 Report Share Posted November 23, 2011 I personally don't connect eating with addiction. That topic has raged thru this group a number of times before and ends up being as polarized an issue as abortion so I hope that won't happen again. I certainly could be wrong and I do think there are some manufactured 'food' products that my body does not do well eating. But not eating them is my choice, not a mandate due to any 'addiction' in my mind. Katcha > > I think the addictive part would apply. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 23, 2011 Report Share Posted November 23, 2011 Fabulous post! I especially liked how you describe IE - WOW!! so right on. Katcha IEing since March 2007 > > Convincing myself that I was " a compulsive overeater " meant that I no longer had control over my eating (whatever you want to term it) and therefore I became more out of control than ever. It was a self-fulfilling prophesy. And I became afraid of food and that fear started to rule me. > > The thing about IE that works over time - to me - is that I am learning to live without a net. There is no program, there is no set of rules, there is no plan, there's nothing to make amends for. I do not have an external set of rules that tells me when I'm right and when I'm wrong. It's all neutral. That creates room for learning. > > Initially, there was only some fumbling, falling down, getting up, and eventually learning to walk, one meal, one " slip " , one " I get it " at a time. The intuitive was always there, it just got silenced by " coming to believe " I needed someone else tell me what to eat. > > Day in and day out - my food choices and my hunger became the enemy and I was fighting mightily to learn how to eat differently than I was inclined to do. The biggest evidence that I was a hopeless weight-loser - those times when I pudged up because I'd eaten emotionally. The horror! > So, now instead of focusing on being a compulsive overeater who needs to work on the 12 Steps (modified to fit OA) I'm finding my way in the dark and unknown of trying to recognize and honor my body's needs. In doing so I find myself stumbling over old beliefs, tripping on the rebellion that arises when I think I should never have xxs again, and inching my way along the path of return to my natural self. A self/psyche who is smarter than any diet or any plan ever created. > > Sandarah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 23, 2011 Report Share Posted November 23, 2011 Fabulous post! I especially liked how you describe IE - WOW!! so right on. Katcha IEing since March 2007 > > Convincing myself that I was " a compulsive overeater " meant that I no longer had control over my eating (whatever you want to term it) and therefore I became more out of control than ever. It was a self-fulfilling prophesy. And I became afraid of food and that fear started to rule me. > > The thing about IE that works over time - to me - is that I am learning to live without a net. There is no program, there is no set of rules, there is no plan, there's nothing to make amends for. I do not have an external set of rules that tells me when I'm right and when I'm wrong. It's all neutral. That creates room for learning. > > Initially, there was only some fumbling, falling down, getting up, and eventually learning to walk, one meal, one " slip " , one " I get it " at a time. The intuitive was always there, it just got silenced by " coming to believe " I needed someone else tell me what to eat. > > Day in and day out - my food choices and my hunger became the enemy and I was fighting mightily to learn how to eat differently than I was inclined to do. The biggest evidence that I was a hopeless weight-loser - those times when I pudged up because I'd eaten emotionally. The horror! > So, now instead of focusing on being a compulsive overeater who needs to work on the 12 Steps (modified to fit OA) I'm finding my way in the dark and unknown of trying to recognize and honor my body's needs. In doing so I find myself stumbling over old beliefs, tripping on the rebellion that arises when I think I should never have xxs again, and inching my way along the path of return to my natural self. A self/psyche who is smarter than any diet or any plan ever created. > > Sandarah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 23, 2011 Report Share Posted November 23, 2011 Fabulous post! I especially liked how you describe IE - WOW!! so right on. Katcha IEing since March 2007 > > Convincing myself that I was " a compulsive overeater " meant that I no longer had control over my eating (whatever you want to term it) and therefore I became more out of control than ever. It was a self-fulfilling prophesy. And I became afraid of food and that fear started to rule me. > > The thing about IE that works over time - to me - is that I am learning to live without a net. There is no program, there is no set of rules, there is no plan, there's nothing to make amends for. I do not have an external set of rules that tells me when I'm right and when I'm wrong. It's all neutral. That creates room for learning. > > Initially, there was only some fumbling, falling down, getting up, and eventually learning to walk, one meal, one " slip " , one " I get it " at a time. The intuitive was always there, it just got silenced by " coming to believe " I needed someone else tell me what to eat. > > Day in and day out - my food choices and my hunger became the enemy and I was fighting mightily to learn how to eat differently than I was inclined to do. The biggest evidence that I was a hopeless weight-loser - those times when I pudged up because I'd eaten emotionally. The horror! > So, now instead of focusing on being a compulsive overeater who needs to work on the 12 Steps (modified to fit OA) I'm finding my way in the dark and unknown of trying to recognize and honor my body's needs. In doing so I find myself stumbling over old beliefs, tripping on the rebellion that arises when I think I should never have xxs again, and inching my way along the path of return to my natural self. A self/psyche who is smarter than any diet or any plan ever created. > > Sandarah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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