Guest guest Posted November 10, 2011 Report Share Posted November 10, 2011 Oh yes, yes, yes!!! Fabulous reason for joining a health club! I feel very lucky in that my enjoyment of exercise has never been tainted by other motives, because it has stood me in good stead for most of my life. I think I once or twice looked at how many calories an hour of exercise would burn, and decided that it was ridiculous, that there was no way that exercise could make up for what I ate, so I never even considered it. But I have always loved walking, and biking, and swimming, and have done one or another almost every day. I think it's what keeps me sane, and it certainly helps me sleep at night. I am also fortunate to live in a town where it seems like everyone is exercising--and that's people of all ages and sizes, so I've never had to feel self-conscious about it. I'm sure your club will have a lot of different options, and you can find the things that are most enjoyable to you (just like with eating). I've never been able to get into lifting weights or doing any kind of stationary aerobics, but I took a dance fitness class once that was really fun. Enjoy! Tilley > > I joined a health club yesterday! What's amazing is that I didn't join it to lose weight or to complement a diet. At all. I did it because I was at a sort of retreat this weekend where we did a lot of movement and dance and it felt so good to move and to breathe. > > I grew up in the 50's when women didn't move much. PE was an elective and girls and sports were not celebrated. I could go on - but suffice it to say that my body image and my resistance to working out just to lose weight have stood in the way of moving for a long time now. Plus, I just couldn't find the enjoyment in it. > > Tonight after work I was eager to do a workout so that I could burn off some of the frustration from the day and feel better. I just wanted to feel better. That my friends is brand-spanking new. For so long I haven't noticed that much about how I felt because I was so consumed with diet rebellion and diet restriction that how I felt was besides the point. > > Now - I do notice and I do care. It's so strange how this works. Yay for wanting to have a physical outlet that isn't eating! > > Sandarah > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 10, 2011 Report Share Posted November 10, 2011 Oh yes, yes, yes!!! Fabulous reason for joining a health club! I feel very lucky in that my enjoyment of exercise has never been tainted by other motives, because it has stood me in good stead for most of my life. I think I once or twice looked at how many calories an hour of exercise would burn, and decided that it was ridiculous, that there was no way that exercise could make up for what I ate, so I never even considered it. But I have always loved walking, and biking, and swimming, and have done one or another almost every day. I think it's what keeps me sane, and it certainly helps me sleep at night. I am also fortunate to live in a town where it seems like everyone is exercising--and that's people of all ages and sizes, so I've never had to feel self-conscious about it. I'm sure your club will have a lot of different options, and you can find the things that are most enjoyable to you (just like with eating). I've never been able to get into lifting weights or doing any kind of stationary aerobics, but I took a dance fitness class once that was really fun. Enjoy! Tilley > > I joined a health club yesterday! What's amazing is that I didn't join it to lose weight or to complement a diet. At all. I did it because I was at a sort of retreat this weekend where we did a lot of movement and dance and it felt so good to move and to breathe. > > I grew up in the 50's when women didn't move much. PE was an elective and girls and sports were not celebrated. I could go on - but suffice it to say that my body image and my resistance to working out just to lose weight have stood in the way of moving for a long time now. Plus, I just couldn't find the enjoyment in it. > > Tonight after work I was eager to do a workout so that I could burn off some of the frustration from the day and feel better. I just wanted to feel better. That my friends is brand-spanking new. For so long I haven't noticed that much about how I felt because I was so consumed with diet rebellion and diet restriction that how I felt was besides the point. > > Now - I do notice and I do care. It's so strange how this works. Yay for wanting to have a physical outlet that isn't eating! > > Sandarah > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 10, 2011 Report Share Posted November 10, 2011 Oh yes, yes, yes!!! Fabulous reason for joining a health club! I feel very lucky in that my enjoyment of exercise has never been tainted by other motives, because it has stood me in good stead for most of my life. I think I once or twice looked at how many calories an hour of exercise would burn, and decided that it was ridiculous, that there was no way that exercise could make up for what I ate, so I never even considered it. But I have always loved walking, and biking, and swimming, and have done one or another almost every day. I think it's what keeps me sane, and it certainly helps me sleep at night. I am also fortunate to live in a town where it seems like everyone is exercising--and that's people of all ages and sizes, so I've never had to feel self-conscious about it. I'm sure your club will have a lot of different options, and you can find the things that are most enjoyable to you (just like with eating). I've never been able to get into lifting weights or doing any kind of stationary aerobics, but I took a dance fitness class once that was really fun. Enjoy! Tilley > > I joined a health club yesterday! What's amazing is that I didn't join it to lose weight or to complement a diet. At all. I did it because I was at a sort of retreat this weekend where we did a lot of movement and dance and it felt so good to move and to breathe. > > I grew up in the 50's when women didn't move much. PE was an elective and girls and sports were not celebrated. I could go on - but suffice it to say that my body image and my resistance to working out just to lose weight have stood in the way of moving for a long time now. Plus, I just couldn't find the enjoyment in it. > > Tonight after work I was eager to do a workout so that I could burn off some of the frustration from the day and feel better. I just wanted to feel better. That my friends is brand-spanking new. For so long I haven't noticed that much about how I felt because I was so consumed with diet rebellion and diet restriction that how I felt was besides the point. > > Now - I do notice and I do care. It's so strange how this works. Yay for wanting to have a physical outlet that isn't eating! > > Sandarah > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 10, 2011 Report Share Posted November 10, 2011 Sandarah, this is what another member once called Intuitive Exercise! I can relate to your background - I too grew up in the 50s, but I was a tom boy and played sports with the boys. For me 'exercise' was an imposed indoor activity of standing in one place and waving my arms and legs (lol). I never stopped being active, but I continued to dislike 'exercise' (for exercise sake). Bravo for finding an outlet that makes your body hum with delight. Katcha IEing since March 2007 > > I joined a health club yesterday! What's amazing is that I didn't join it to lose weight or to complement a diet. At all. I did it because I was at a sort of retreat this weekend where we did a lot of movement and dance and it felt so good to move and to breathe. > > I grew up in the 50's when women didn't move much. PE was an elective and girls and sports were not celebrated. I could go on - but suffice it to say that my body image and my resistance to working out just to lose weight have stood in the way of moving for a long time now. Plus, I just couldn't find the enjoyment in it. > > Tonight after work I was eager to do a workout so that I could burn off some of the frustration from the day and feel better. I just wanted to feel better. That my friends is brand-spanking new. For so long I haven't noticed that much about how I felt because I was so consumed with diet rebellion and diet restriction that how I felt was besides the point. > > Now - I do notice and I do care. It's so strange how this works. Yay for wanting to have a physical outlet that isn't eating! > > Sandarah > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 11, 2011 Report Share Posted November 11, 2011 Thank you so much for your post. I pray that I can develop the same relationship with exercise. I believe intuitive eating and intuitive exercise are closely linked. They both have to do with listening to our bodies. I know this group is focused on eating but I would love to investigate healthy moving of my body. If anybody knows a place where this is being discussed please let me know. Thanks, Evan Sent from my iPhone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 11, 2011 Report Share Posted November 11, 2011 Thank you so much for your post. I pray that I can develop the same relationship with exercise. I believe intuitive eating and intuitive exercise are closely linked. They both have to do with listening to our bodies. I know this group is focused on eating but I would love to investigate healthy moving of my body. If anybody knows a place where this is being discussed please let me know. Thanks, Evan Sent from my iPhone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 11, 2011 Report Share Posted November 11, 2011 Thank you so much for your post. I pray that I can develop the same relationship with exercise. I believe intuitive eating and intuitive exercise are closely linked. They both have to do with listening to our bodies. I know this group is focused on eating but I would love to investigate healthy moving of my body. If anybody knows a place where this is being discussed please let me know. Thanks, Evan Sent from my iPhone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 12, 2011 Report Share Posted November 12, 2011 Maybe we can discuss it here! I'm maybe lucky in that exercise never made me lose weight? So that kept it separate from the diet police and all that. I don't always love exercise, though sometimes I do, but I love love love how I feel afterwards! Just like how I'm learning to think about how my body will feel afterwards if I eat something, I can exercise for how great I will feel afterwards. Maybe the way to approach Intuitive Exercise is with baby steps, just like Intuitive Eating. Experiment with different types of " movement " -- a long term IE'er uses this phrase instead of " exercise " and I love it! To me it sounds much less loaded with expectations. Anyway, experiment with different forms of movement to see what you like, also how much, how often, etc. Then you can gradually, gently increase your movement as you get stronger and WANT to do more. I would love to hear of people's experiences trying this sort of thing! Best, Abby  Thank you so much for your post. I pray that I can develop the same relationship with exercise. I believe intuitive eating and intuitive exercise are closely linked. They both have to do with listening to our bodies. I know this group is focused on eating but I would love to investigate healthy moving of my body. If anybody knows a place where this is being discussed please let me know. Thanks, Evan Sent from my iPhone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 12, 2011 Report Share Posted November 12, 2011 Yes, that's exactly what I would suggest also, because in order to really truly come to love it, you'll want to love it while you're doing to as well as afterwards, and if a person is not liking it while they're doing it, then they're probably doing it too hard, or not doing something that they really like. I have had a very regular exercise practice for the past tens years, which I actually look forward to each day, but every single time, I tell myself, " you don't have to go fast; you can go as slow as you want, but you have to do it, " so I go in to every session that all that's required of me is that I jog, or walk, or swim, or dance, or play tennis (rarely, but on occasion my son has talked me into playing), and that's okay. Usually, once I get warmed up, I do feel like going faster, but if I'm feeling really crappy, then it might be the slowest two miles in the world, or everyone else at the pool might lap me over and of, but that's okay too. When I started " exercising " after a number of very inactive years (which coincided with the years I was sad over my divorce), my sister-in-law said the best thing in the world, which was that it's better to do is slowly than to not do it at all. I know so many people who have dived into some kind of exercise program, and then quit, because it was just too hard, or rather it was harder than they could consistently make themselves do, or they got injured and had to stop. Well, I haven't stopped. I still do something that I could call exercise every day, and if an athletic person would laugh, so what? I'm still doing it, and it helps me sleep at night, and it keeps me from being cranky during the day and it FEELS GOOD, every single time I do it. I've even discovered in this past year, as the headaches that had disappeared for many years have resurfaced, that exercise often makes my headaches go away. So this is kind of a long-winded response agreeing with what you say about experimenting with exercise. It's so important for each person to find what they themselves like to do--and how, and when, etc. for me, it's a solitary thing (and I have a friend, who when she heard that I've been walking several miles in the mornings before school, wants to walk with me, and while I didn't say " no " , I do kind of hope she doesn't, get around to actually getting up and doing it--I walk past her house I both directions, because I really value that time alone and how I can pace myself). No gyms for me. I would love to find some way to row on the river, because I've always loved boating and the way I feel wielding a paddle or oar--maybe someday! I have loved both yoga and dance aerobics classes in the past, and would like to find time to take another class, but in the meantime, I'll just keep doing the things I'm doing. Good luck all, who embark on this journey! Tilley > > > ** > > > > > > Thank you so much for your post. I pray that I can develop the same > > relationship with exercise. I believe intuitive eating and intuitive > > exercise are closely linked. They both have to do with listening to our > > bodies. I know this group is focused on eating but I would love to > > investigate healthy moving of my body. If anybody knows a place where this > > is being discussed please let me know. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Evan > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 12, 2011 Report Share Posted November 12, 2011 Yes, that's exactly what I would suggest also, because in order to really truly come to love it, you'll want to love it while you're doing to as well as afterwards, and if a person is not liking it while they're doing it, then they're probably doing it too hard, or not doing something that they really like. I have had a very regular exercise practice for the past tens years, which I actually look forward to each day, but every single time, I tell myself, " you don't have to go fast; you can go as slow as you want, but you have to do it, " so I go in to every session that all that's required of me is that I jog, or walk, or swim, or dance, or play tennis (rarely, but on occasion my son has talked me into playing), and that's okay. Usually, once I get warmed up, I do feel like going faster, but if I'm feeling really crappy, then it might be the slowest two miles in the world, or everyone else at the pool might lap me over and of, but that's okay too. When I started " exercising " after a number of very inactive years (which coincided with the years I was sad over my divorce), my sister-in-law said the best thing in the world, which was that it's better to do is slowly than to not do it at all. I know so many people who have dived into some kind of exercise program, and then quit, because it was just too hard, or rather it was harder than they could consistently make themselves do, or they got injured and had to stop. Well, I haven't stopped. I still do something that I could call exercise every day, and if an athletic person would laugh, so what? I'm still doing it, and it helps me sleep at night, and it keeps me from being cranky during the day and it FEELS GOOD, every single time I do it. I've even discovered in this past year, as the headaches that had disappeared for many years have resurfaced, that exercise often makes my headaches go away. So this is kind of a long-winded response agreeing with what you say about experimenting with exercise. It's so important for each person to find what they themselves like to do--and how, and when, etc. for me, it's a solitary thing (and I have a friend, who when she heard that I've been walking several miles in the mornings before school, wants to walk with me, and while I didn't say " no " , I do kind of hope she doesn't, get around to actually getting up and doing it--I walk past her house I both directions, because I really value that time alone and how I can pace myself). No gyms for me. I would love to find some way to row on the river, because I've always loved boating and the way I feel wielding a paddle or oar--maybe someday! I have loved both yoga and dance aerobics classes in the past, and would like to find time to take another class, but in the meantime, I'll just keep doing the things I'm doing. Good luck all, who embark on this journey! Tilley > > > ** > > > > > > Thank you so much for your post. I pray that I can develop the same > > relationship with exercise. I believe intuitive eating and intuitive > > exercise are closely linked. They both have to do with listening to our > > bodies. I know this group is focused on eating but I would love to > > investigate healthy moving of my body. If anybody knows a place where this > > is being discussed please let me know. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Evan > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 12, 2011 Report Share Posted November 12, 2011 Yes, that's exactly what I would suggest also, because in order to really truly come to love it, you'll want to love it while you're doing to as well as afterwards, and if a person is not liking it while they're doing it, then they're probably doing it too hard, or not doing something that they really like. I have had a very regular exercise practice for the past tens years, which I actually look forward to each day, but every single time, I tell myself, " you don't have to go fast; you can go as slow as you want, but you have to do it, " so I go in to every session that all that's required of me is that I jog, or walk, or swim, or dance, or play tennis (rarely, but on occasion my son has talked me into playing), and that's okay. Usually, once I get warmed up, I do feel like going faster, but if I'm feeling really crappy, then it might be the slowest two miles in the world, or everyone else at the pool might lap me over and of, but that's okay too. When I started " exercising " after a number of very inactive years (which coincided with the years I was sad over my divorce), my sister-in-law said the best thing in the world, which was that it's better to do is slowly than to not do it at all. I know so many people who have dived into some kind of exercise program, and then quit, because it was just too hard, or rather it was harder than they could consistently make themselves do, or they got injured and had to stop. Well, I haven't stopped. I still do something that I could call exercise every day, and if an athletic person would laugh, so what? I'm still doing it, and it helps me sleep at night, and it keeps me from being cranky during the day and it FEELS GOOD, every single time I do it. I've even discovered in this past year, as the headaches that had disappeared for many years have resurfaced, that exercise often makes my headaches go away. So this is kind of a long-winded response agreeing with what you say about experimenting with exercise. It's so important for each person to find what they themselves like to do--and how, and when, etc. for me, it's a solitary thing (and I have a friend, who when she heard that I've been walking several miles in the mornings before school, wants to walk with me, and while I didn't say " no " , I do kind of hope she doesn't, get around to actually getting up and doing it--I walk past her house I both directions, because I really value that time alone and how I can pace myself). No gyms for me. I would love to find some way to row on the river, because I've always loved boating and the way I feel wielding a paddle or oar--maybe someday! I have loved both yoga and dance aerobics classes in the past, and would like to find time to take another class, but in the meantime, I'll just keep doing the things I'm doing. Good luck all, who embark on this journey! Tilley > > > ** > > > > > > Thank you so much for your post. I pray that I can develop the same > > relationship with exercise. I believe intuitive eating and intuitive > > exercise are closely linked. They both have to do with listening to our > > bodies. I know this group is focused on eating but I would love to > > investigate healthy moving of my body. If anybody knows a place where this > > is being discussed please let me know. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Evan > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 12, 2011 Report Share Posted November 12, 2011 I never thought of it this way and I love it. Thanks. I am going on 2 short " vacations " and will see how any of IE plays in. I know I will be doing extra walking( limited by an almost healed broken toe). Eating IE will be a challenge. It will be hard to eat when I am hungry and not on a convience schedule with others in the group. Also the type of food will be restaurant mostly. I am going to try to go and enjoy myself without over doing anything. And then of course there is Thanksgiving coming up right after I get back. We only have a small family gathering and I don't usually over eat. I will try to do all of it without judgement. The weather here has cooled off enough to do outside exercise like walking and biking(3 wheeler). And when I get through with all this and settled I will put some of this exercise philosophy in action. Sandy  Maybe we can discuss it here! I'm maybe lucky in that exercise never made me lose weight? So that kept it separate from the diet police and all that. I don't always love exercise, though sometimes I do, but I love love love how I feel afterwards! Just like how I'm learning to think about how my body will feel afterwards if I eat something, I can exercise for how great I will feel afterwards. Maybe the way to approach Intuitive Exercise is with baby steps, just like Intuitive Eating. Experiment with different types of " movement " -- a long term IE'er uses this phrase instead of " exercise " and I love it! To me it sounds much less loaded with expectations. Anyway, experiment with different forms of movement to see what you like, also how much, how often, etc. Then you can gradually, gently increase your movement as you get stronger and WANT to do more. I would love to hear of people's experiences trying this sort of thing! Best, Abby  Thank you so much for your post. I pray that I can develop the same relationship with exercise. I believe intuitive eating and intuitive exercise are closely linked. They both have to do with listening to our bodies. I know this group is focused on eating but I would love to investigate healthy moving of my body. If anybody knows a place where this is being discussed please let me know. Thanks, Evan Sent from my iPhone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 12, 2011 Report Share Posted November 12, 2011 I never thought of it this way and I love it. Thanks. I am going on 2 short " vacations " and will see how any of IE plays in. I know I will be doing extra walking( limited by an almost healed broken toe). Eating IE will be a challenge. It will be hard to eat when I am hungry and not on a convience schedule with others in the group. Also the type of food will be restaurant mostly. I am going to try to go and enjoy myself without over doing anything. And then of course there is Thanksgiving coming up right after I get back. We only have a small family gathering and I don't usually over eat. I will try to do all of it without judgement. The weather here has cooled off enough to do outside exercise like walking and biking(3 wheeler). And when I get through with all this and settled I will put some of this exercise philosophy in action. Sandy  Maybe we can discuss it here! I'm maybe lucky in that exercise never made me lose weight? So that kept it separate from the diet police and all that. I don't always love exercise, though sometimes I do, but I love love love how I feel afterwards! Just like how I'm learning to think about how my body will feel afterwards if I eat something, I can exercise for how great I will feel afterwards. Maybe the way to approach Intuitive Exercise is with baby steps, just like Intuitive Eating. Experiment with different types of " movement " -- a long term IE'er uses this phrase instead of " exercise " and I love it! To me it sounds much less loaded with expectations. Anyway, experiment with different forms of movement to see what you like, also how much, how often, etc. Then you can gradually, gently increase your movement as you get stronger and WANT to do more. I would love to hear of people's experiences trying this sort of thing! Best, Abby  Thank you so much for your post. I pray that I can develop the same relationship with exercise. I believe intuitive eating and intuitive exercise are closely linked. They both have to do with listening to our bodies. I know this group is focused on eating but I would love to investigate healthy moving of my body. If anybody knows a place where this is being discussed please let me know. Thanks, Evan Sent from my iPhone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 12, 2011 Report Share Posted November 12, 2011 I've really enjoyed eating this discussion, I just wanted to throw in my two cents. Though I've used exercise for weight loss in the past, most of my hang-ups were around food, not movement. When I struggled with depression, my doctor told me that exercise would help, and it did! That was three years ago, and the first time I ever exercised for health rather than weight loss. I still wasn't exercising intuitively though. I love to take walks and do yoga, but sometimes exercise was more like a pill, a part of my routine I wouldn't " neglect " because I was afraid that my mood would go off, my energy would drag, etc. I had good reasons for exercise, I just needed to be better at consulting my body. I've been getting bored with my walk/run lately, and the other day it didn't feel good to run, so I power-walked. Usually, I barely break a sweat power-walking, but this time I got a huge side ache. Immediatley, I realized my body was telling me to slow down. I got home and thought about this, and decided to see what would happen if I skipped my morning walk/run, and only went out if I really wanted to. Yesterday I got up, worked on my novel and painted all morning, and I felt great! I ended up walking to work because I wanted to, but it wasn't an " exercisey " walk. It felt good to let my body decide whether it wanted to move. I thought about my exercise hang-ups and let them go. I painted in my sunny studio, so I got my dose of lift that I need for winter blues. I felt hungry for lunch too, an I realized that I always exercised so that I'd feel hungry later so I could eat! It wasn't " earning " my food, it was more like getting rid of clothes just so I can buy more to fill up my closet. Ok, so this kind of ended up as word vomit, but maybe someone will relate. I think I just needed to figure that out on paper! McKella > > > ** > > > > > > Thank you so much for your post. I pray that I can develop the same > > relationship with exercise. I believe intuitive eating and intuitive > > exercise are closely linked. They both have to do with listening to our > > bodies. I know this group is focused on eating but I would love to > > investigate healthy moving of my body. If anybody knows a place where this > > is being discussed please let me know. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Evan > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 12, 2011 Report Share Posted November 12, 2011 McKella, I love reading about alternatives like your choices since it helps supply me with ideas that hadn't occurred to me up until then. Dieting is so about limiting and IE is more about broadening one's life - Yay IE! And yay you too :-) Katcha IEing since March 2007 > > > I've really enjoyed eating this discussion, I just wanted to throw in my two cents. > Though I've used exercise for weight loss in the past, most of my hang-ups were around food, not movement. When I struggled with depression, my doctor told me that exercise would help, and it did! That was three years ago, and the first time I ever exercised for health rather than weight loss. I still wasn't exercising intuitively though. I love to take walks and do yoga, but sometimes exercise was more like a pill, a part of my routine I wouldn't " neglect " because I was afraid that my mood would go off, my energy would drag, etc. I had good reasons for exercise, I just needed to be better at consulting my body. I've been getting bored with my walk/run lately, and the other day it didn't feel good to run, so I power-walked. Usually, I barely break a sweat power-walking, but this time I got a huge side ache. Immediatley, I realized my body was telling me to slow down. I got home and thought about this, and decided to see what would happen if I skipped my morning walk/run, and only went out if I really wanted to. Yesterday I got up, worked on my novel and painted all morning, and I felt great! I ended up walking to work because I wanted to, but it wasn't an " exercisey " walk. > It felt good to let my body decide whether it wanted to move. I thought about my exercise hang-ups and let them go. I painted in my sunny studio, so I got my dose of lift that I need for winter blues. I felt hungry for lunch too, an I realized that I always exercised so that I'd feel hungry later so I could eat! It wasn't " earning " my food, it was more like getting rid of clothes just so I can buy more to fill up my closet. > Ok, so this kind of ended up as word vomit, but maybe someone will relate. I think I just needed to figure that out on paper! > > McKella > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 12, 2011 Report Share Posted November 12, 2011 I totally relate, and so appreciate your post. It's the feeling like I " have to " that becomes the trap. I usually want to go out first thing, but sometimes staying in and doing something else pleasurable is the thing to do. And I must say I am envious of folks who are working on novels, and who have a sunny studio to paint in..... Tilley > > > > > ** > > > > > > > > > Thank you so much for your post. I pray that I can develop the same > > > relationship with exercise. I believe intuitive eating and intuitive > > > exercise are closely linked. They both have to do with listening to our > > > bodies. I know this group is focused on eating but I would love to > > > investigate healthy moving of my body. If anybody knows a place where this > > > is being discussed please let me know. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > Evan > > > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 12, 2011 Report Share Posted November 12, 2011 I totally relate, and so appreciate your post. It's the feeling like I " have to " that becomes the trap. I usually want to go out first thing, but sometimes staying in and doing something else pleasurable is the thing to do. And I must say I am envious of folks who are working on novels, and who have a sunny studio to paint in..... Tilley > > > > > ** > > > > > > > > > Thank you so much for your post. I pray that I can develop the same > > > relationship with exercise. I believe intuitive eating and intuitive > > > exercise are closely linked. They both have to do with listening to our > > > bodies. I know this group is focused on eating but I would love to > > > investigate healthy moving of my body. If anybody knows a place where this > > > is being discussed please let me know. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > Evan > > > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 14, 2011 Report Share Posted November 14, 2011 That's amazing, Sandarah! Let us know how everything is going with that. I want to get to a similar place where physical activity becomes something I do because it makes my body feel good. I am still in rebellion stage with that. After my diagnosis, I was pushed to do a lot of exercise with admonishments like, "and yoga doesn't count, either," and "don't think that walking is any kind of exercise. That does nothing. It has to be vigorous." So, I would go everyday a lunch, starving but not allowing myself to eat until after my workout, and do spinning, body sculpt, etc. until I was ready to drop. Not surprisingly, after a while, I started to rebel, and I haven't been back since. I would love to uncouple exercise from my illness and from losing weight. Good for you! Mimi Subject: The "E" word...To: IntuitiveEating_Support Date: Wednesday, November 9, 2011, 10:17 PM I joined a health club yesterday! What's amazing is that I didn't join it to lose weight or to complement a diet. At all. I did it because I was at a sort of retreat this weekend where we did a lot of movement and dance and it felt so good to move and to breathe. I grew up in the 50's when women didn't move much. PE was an elective and girls and sports were not celebrated. I could go on - but suffice it to say that my body image and my resistance to working out just to lose weight have stood in the way of moving for a long time now. Plus, I just couldn't find the enjoyment in it. Tonight after work I was eager to do a workout so that I could burn off some of the frustration from the day and feel better. I just wanted to feel better. That my friends is brand-spanking new. For so long I haven't noticed that much about how I felt because I was so consumed with diet rebellion and diet restriction that how I felt was besides the point. Now - I do notice and I do care. It's so strange how this works. Yay for wanting to have a physical outlet that isn't eating! Sandarah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 14, 2011 Report Share Posted November 14, 2011 What kind of jackass would say that yoga and walking don't count! Of course they count! Anything is better than nothing! (and of course we all know that, and I'm so sorry that anyone has to experience being lambasted by assholes). I do hope you can find your way back into activity--walking around the block, walking down to the park, yoga, biking along a river path, hitting a ball in a racquetball court (not that I've done that for years, but it sounds like lots of fun to me). And see what the results of telling someone that " it has to be vigorous or it doesn't count " ? Stopping altogether. I said this a couple days ago, but when I started swimming laps about ten years ago, my sister-in-law, who is now a doctor, said that going slow and not very far was better than not doing it at all, And I took that completely to heart. Every single day before I started swimming, I would tell myself that I could go as slow as I wanted, which told me that I didn't HAVE to work hard at it, and I've never quit. I used to also bike to work, and it never felt like exercise at all after about the fourth day, but I could really tell when I didn't do it, because my body would be itching for the activity. You go, girl!!! Tilley > > > > Subject: The " E " word... > To: IntuitiveEating_Support > Date: Wednesday, November 9, 2011, 10:17 PM > > > >  > > > > I joined a health club yesterday! What's amazing is that I didn't join it to lose weight or to complement a diet. At all. I did it because I was at a sort of retreat this weekend where we did a lot of movement and dance and it felt so good to move and to breathe. > > I grew up in the 50's when women didn't move much. PE was an elective and girls and sports were not celebrated. I could go on - but suffice it to say that my body image and my resistance to working out just to lose weight have stood in the way of moving for a long time now. Plus, I just couldn't find the enjoyment in it. > > Tonight after work I was eager to do a workout so that I could burn off some of the frustration from the day and feel better. I just wanted to feel better. That my friends is brand-spanking new. For so long I haven't noticed that much about how I felt because I was so consumed with diet rebellion and diet restriction that how I felt was besides the point. > > Now - I do notice and I do care. It's so strange how this works. Yay for wanting to have a physical outlet that isn't eating! > > Sandarah > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 14, 2011 Report Share Posted November 14, 2011 What kind of jackass would say that yoga and walking don't count! Of course they count! Anything is better than nothing! (and of course we all know that, and I'm so sorry that anyone has to experience being lambasted by assholes). I do hope you can find your way back into activity--walking around the block, walking down to the park, yoga, biking along a river path, hitting a ball in a racquetball court (not that I've done that for years, but it sounds like lots of fun to me). And see what the results of telling someone that " it has to be vigorous or it doesn't count " ? Stopping altogether. I said this a couple days ago, but when I started swimming laps about ten years ago, my sister-in-law, who is now a doctor, said that going slow and not very far was better than not doing it at all, And I took that completely to heart. Every single day before I started swimming, I would tell myself that I could go as slow as I wanted, which told me that I didn't HAVE to work hard at it, and I've never quit. I used to also bike to work, and it never felt like exercise at all after about the fourth day, but I could really tell when I didn't do it, because my body would be itching for the activity. You go, girl!!! Tilley > > > > Subject: The " E " word... > To: IntuitiveEating_Support > Date: Wednesday, November 9, 2011, 10:17 PM > > > >  > > > > I joined a health club yesterday! What's amazing is that I didn't join it to lose weight or to complement a diet. At all. I did it because I was at a sort of retreat this weekend where we did a lot of movement and dance and it felt so good to move and to breathe. > > I grew up in the 50's when women didn't move much. PE was an elective and girls and sports were not celebrated. I could go on - but suffice it to say that my body image and my resistance to working out just to lose weight have stood in the way of moving for a long time now. Plus, I just couldn't find the enjoyment in it. > > Tonight after work I was eager to do a workout so that I could burn off some of the frustration from the day and feel better. I just wanted to feel better. That my friends is brand-spanking new. For so long I haven't noticed that much about how I felt because I was so consumed with diet rebellion and diet restriction that how I felt was besides the point. > > Now - I do notice and I do care. It's so strange how this works. Yay for wanting to have a physical outlet that isn't eating! > > Sandarah > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 14, 2011 Report Share Posted November 14, 2011 What kind of jackass would say that yoga and walking don't count! Of course they count! Anything is better than nothing! (and of course we all know that, and I'm so sorry that anyone has to experience being lambasted by assholes). I do hope you can find your way back into activity--walking around the block, walking down to the park, yoga, biking along a river path, hitting a ball in a racquetball court (not that I've done that for years, but it sounds like lots of fun to me). And see what the results of telling someone that " it has to be vigorous or it doesn't count " ? Stopping altogether. I said this a couple days ago, but when I started swimming laps about ten years ago, my sister-in-law, who is now a doctor, said that going slow and not very far was better than not doing it at all, And I took that completely to heart. Every single day before I started swimming, I would tell myself that I could go as slow as I wanted, which told me that I didn't HAVE to work hard at it, and I've never quit. I used to also bike to work, and it never felt like exercise at all after about the fourth day, but I could really tell when I didn't do it, because my body would be itching for the activity. You go, girl!!! Tilley > > > > Subject: The " E " word... > To: IntuitiveEating_Support > Date: Wednesday, November 9, 2011, 10:17 PM > > > >  > > > > I joined a health club yesterday! What's amazing is that I didn't join it to lose weight or to complement a diet. At all. I did it because I was at a sort of retreat this weekend where we did a lot of movement and dance and it felt so good to move and to breathe. > > I grew up in the 50's when women didn't move much. PE was an elective and girls and sports were not celebrated. I could go on - but suffice it to say that my body image and my resistance to working out just to lose weight have stood in the way of moving for a long time now. Plus, I just couldn't find the enjoyment in it. > > Tonight after work I was eager to do a workout so that I could burn off some of the frustration from the day and feel better. I just wanted to feel better. That my friends is brand-spanking new. For so long I haven't noticed that much about how I felt because I was so consumed with diet rebellion and diet restriction that how I felt was besides the point. > > Now - I do notice and I do care. It's so strange how this works. Yay for wanting to have a physical outlet that isn't eating! > > Sandarah > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 14, 2011 Report Share Posted November 14, 2011 Katcha wrote, "For me 'exercise' was an imposed indoor activity of standing in one place and waving my arms and legs (lol)." LOL. When you think of it that way, it does seem a little silly doesn't it? Instead of exercise being a by-product of an active, joyful life it has become an end in itself. Given that we have increasingly sedentary jobs and lives, this does make sense, but it's pretty removed from how we used to "exercise" as kids. Mimi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 14, 2011 Report Share Posted November 14, 2011 Mimi, for me the major irony is that I tend to be quite physically oriented activity wise. I hang clothes on a line (stretch, bend, turn), putter in my 'garden' (we live on acreage and our 'yard' is about an acre of area too), play with our dogs (65 #s each of go go go) and do all my own housework the old fashioned way - broom, mop, dust etc. I've only sat more in the last few years since I pretty much have whipped everything to the way we want it on the home front. And even then I'm back to re-painting the interior of our house which requires ladder work and plenty of activity - moving furniture, masking and tarping floors and rollering on cathedral ceilings with extension poles. To take time to 'exercise' sounds ridiculous to me. If I was more drawn to dancing, maybe that would increase my movement. But my two left feet say no way! Katcha > > > > > > > > Katcha wrote, > " For me 'exercise' was an imposed indoor activity of standing in one place and waving my arms and legs (lol). " >  > LOL. When you think of it that way, it does seem a little silly doesn't it? Instead of exercise being a by-product of an active, joyful life it has become an end in itself. Given that we have increasingly sedentary jobs and lives, this does make sense, but it's pretty removed from how we used to " exercise " as kids. >  > Mimi >  >  > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 14, 2011 Report Share Posted November 14, 2011 Excellent. This is where I want to be. Mimi Subject: Re: The "E" word...To: IntuitiveEating_Support Date: Saturday, November 12, 2011, 8:08 AM Yes, that's exactly what I would suggest also, because in order to really truly come to love it, you'll want to love it while you're doing to as well as afterwards, and if a person is not liking it while they're doing it, then they're probably doing it too hard, or not doing something that they really like. I have had a very regular exercise practice for the past tens years, which I actually look forward to each day, but every single time, I tell myself, "you don't have to go fast; you can go as slow as you want, but you have to do it," so I go in to every session that all that's required of me is that I jog, or walk, or swim, or dance, or play tennis (rarely, but on occasion my son has talked me into playing), and that's okay. Usually, once I get warmed up, I do feel like going faster, but if I'm feeling really crappy, then it might be the slowest two miles in the world, or everyone else at the pool might lap me over and of, but that's okay too. When I started "exercising" after a number of very inactive years (which coincided with the years I was sad over my divorce), my sister-in-law said the best thing in the world, which was that it's better to do is slowly than to not do it at all. I know so many people who have dived into some kind of exercise program, and then quit, because it was just too hard, or rather it was harder than they could consistently make themselves do, or they got injured and had to stop. Well, I haven't stopped. I still do something that I could call exercise every day, and if an athletic person would laugh, so what? I'm still doing it, and it helps me sleep at night, and it keeps me from being cranky during the day and it FEELS GOOD, every single time I do it. I've even discovered in this past year, as the headaches that had disappeared for many years have resurfaced, that exercise often makes my headaches go away. So this is kind of a long-winded response agreeing with what you say about experimenting with exercise. It's so important for each person to find what they themselves like to do--and how, and when, etc. for me, it's a solitary thing (and I have a friend, who when she heard that I've been walking several miles in the mornings before school, wants to walk with me, and while I didn't say "no", I do kind of hope she doesn't, get around to actually getting up and doing it--I walk past her house I both directions, because I really value that time alone and how I can pace myself). No gyms for me. I would love to find some way to row on the river, because I've always loved boating and the way I feel wielding a paddle or oar--maybe someday! I have loved both yoga and dance aerobics classes in the past, and would like to find time to take another class, but in the meantime, I'll just keep doing the things I'm doing.Good luck all, who embark on this journey!Tilley> > > **> >> >> > Thank you so much for your post. I pray that I can develop the same> > relationship with exercise. I believe intuitive eating and intuitive> > exercise are closely linked. They both have to do with listening to our> > bodies. I know this group is focused on eating but I would love to> > investigate healthy moving of my body. If anybody knows a place where this> > is being discussed please let me know.> >> > Thanks,> >> > Evan> >> > Sent from my iPhone> > > >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 14, 2011 Report Share Posted November 14, 2011 Tilley wrote: "And I must say I am envious of folks who are working on novels, and who have a sunny studio to paint in....."Oh me, too! How divine. Well, all this talk about intuitive exercise got me to really think about what's holding me back. A lot of it is the same old "rules" that I'd previously carried around about food. Just like the idea that one must eat at a certain time and a certain amount, I had the rule that exercise can only be done at certain times. I used to exercise during my lunch break. Lately I have been trying to get out there for a walk once a day. However, I was really having a hard time doing so at noon. Well today it dawned on me that it doesn't have to be at noon. Duh! There are times when I really need a break from work and would love to go for a walk, but previously I had not allowed this because it was at the "wrong" time. Well, today I needed a break at 1:15 and I took it and had a lovely walk to the national sculpture garden. So happy I did it. No struggling with myself. So from now on I will try to move when the spirit hits me. Thanks! Mimi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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