Re: Food Reaction and More

[Guest guest]

Nada came out with a winner a few days ago. Always picking on my weight, she

asked, " Do you meditate? " I almost fell off my chair! I didn't even think

nada knew what meditation was really. I replied, " yes " . She then said as if

she didn't even hear my yes, " put your hands on your lap palms up sitting down.

Close your eyes and say to the room, " I am thin " - " I am thin and you will be!

An old woman told me that years ago and I've always done that. " No, nada you

have never meditated in all the years I knew you so what's this about?! I doubt

it's true. I sincerely think she absolutely is lying and of course what she

said is absurd. Not that I don't believe in positive thinking, but if it were

THAT simple we'd all be thin now wouldn't we!

I think we ARE just an extension of them and not human at all. A month ago she

said to me that I am to sell or give away everything I own here and only take my

clothes and cats when she dies - live in her house with all her things 'just as

they are' and 'never change a thing or I will haunt you forever'. Of course I

am not going to live in her house nor am I going to live with her things.

Everything will be give away, thrown away or sold along with the house. BAD

energy - BAD memories for me and not what I want nor where I want to live.

Whose life is this anyway?!

She also said that she needs to teach me to be just like her because only she

and my one friend she approves of " Pip " are 'perfect' and the rest of us are all

flawed. She said she doesn't have long so hurry up and learn how to be just

like me will you.

[Guest guest]

I think you're right; those with bpd are living in their own reality which is

only tenuously related to actual reality. The bpd is living in a kind of play

she is writing in her own head. We, their children, don't exist for them as

separate, individual human beings with our own personality. At best we are

their stand-ins, or they assign us some role or other depending on what their

stream of consciousness is fantasizing at the moment. They project these roles

onto us; we become a persecuting demon or a hero rescuer or their own idealized

self or their worst enemy, their beloved child, their hated rival, their best

friend, their own self-loathing, their substitute spouse, etc., and they can

assign us a new, different role at any moment.

I don't think I've ever been just me, myself, to my nada. She doesn't know me

at all; who I am, really. I'm just characters in her play, I guess.

I really do think the earlier generations of psychologists nailed it, and the

person with borderline pd has got one foot in neurosis and the other foot in

psychosis.

-Annie

>

> Nada came out with a winner a few days ago. Always picking on my weight, she

asked, " Do you meditate? " I almost fell off my chair! I didn't even think

nada knew what meditation was really. I replied, " yes " . She then said as if

she didn't even hear my yes, " put your hands on your lap palms up sitting down.

Close your eyes and say to the room, " I am thin " - " I am thin and you will be!

An old woman told me that years ago and I've always done that. " No, nada you

have never meditated in all the years I knew you so what's this about?! I doubt

it's true. I sincerely think she absolutely is lying and of course what she

said is absurd. Not that I don't believe in positive thinking, but if it were

THAT simple we'd all be thin now wouldn't we!

>

> I think we ARE just an extension of them and not human at all. A month ago

she said to me that I am to sell or give away everything I own here and only

take my clothes and cats when she dies - live in her house with all her things

'just as they are' and 'never change a thing or I will haunt you forever'. Of

course I am not going to live in her house nor am I going to live with her

things. Everything will be give away, thrown away or sold along with the house.

BAD energy - BAD memories for me and not what I want nor where I want to live.

Whose life is this anyway?!

>

> She also said that she needs to teach me to be just like her because only she

and my one friend she approves of " Pip " are 'perfect' and the rest of us are all

flawed. She said she doesn't have long so hurry up and learn how to be just

like me will you.

>

>

[Guest guest]

I think you're right; those with bpd are living in their own reality which is

only tenuously related to actual reality. The bpd is living in a kind of play

she is writing in her own head. We, their children, don't exist for them as

separate, individual human beings with our own personality. At best we are

their stand-ins, or they assign us some role or other depending on what their

stream of consciousness is fantasizing at the moment. They project these roles

onto us; we become a persecuting demon or a hero rescuer or their own idealized

self or their worst enemy, their beloved child, their hated rival, their best

friend, their own self-loathing, their substitute spouse, etc., and they can

assign us a new, different role at any moment.

I don't think I've ever been just me, myself, to my nada. She doesn't know me

at all; who I am, really. I'm just characters in her play, I guess.

I really do think the earlier generations of psychologists nailed it, and the

person with borderline pd has got one foot in neurosis and the other foot in

psychosis.

-Annie

>

> Nada came out with a winner a few days ago. Always picking on my weight, she

asked, " Do you meditate? " I almost fell off my chair! I didn't even think

nada knew what meditation was really. I replied, " yes " . She then said as if

she didn't even hear my yes, " put your hands on your lap palms up sitting down.

Close your eyes and say to the room, " I am thin " - " I am thin and you will be!

An old woman told me that years ago and I've always done that. " No, nada you

have never meditated in all the years I knew you so what's this about?! I doubt

it's true. I sincerely think she absolutely is lying and of course what she

said is absurd. Not that I don't believe in positive thinking, but if it were

THAT simple we'd all be thin now wouldn't we!

>

> I think we ARE just an extension of them and not human at all. A month ago

she said to me that I am to sell or give away everything I own here and only

take my clothes and cats when she dies - live in her house with all her things

'just as they are' and 'never change a thing or I will haunt you forever'. Of

course I am not going to live in her house nor am I going to live with her

things. Everything will be give away, thrown away or sold along with the house.

BAD energy - BAD memories for me and not what I want nor where I want to live.

Whose life is this anyway?!

>

> She also said that she needs to teach me to be just like her because only she

and my one friend she approves of " Pip " are 'perfect' and the rest of us are all

flawed. She said she doesn't have long so hurry up and learn how to be just

like me will you.

>

>

[Guest guest]

ugh that is mega mega creepy and I can totally imagine my nada saying it.

UGH

I guess the closest is her telling me what I was supposed to name my

children - an ugly name after her dad who I never met - and it was an order

not to be discussed further. ICH

On Sat, Jan 8, 2011 at 4:20 PM, anuria67854 wrote:

>

>

> I think you're right; those with bpd are living in their own reality which

> is only tenuously related to actual reality. The bpd is living in a kind of

> play she is writing in her own head. We, their children, don't exist for

> them as separate, individual human beings with our own personality. At best

> we are their stand-ins, or they assign us some role or other depending on

> what their stream of consciousness is fantasizing at the moment. They

> project these roles onto us; we become a persecuting demon or a hero rescuer

> or their own idealized self or their worst enemy, their beloved child, their

> hated rival, their best friend, their own self-loathing, their substitute

> spouse, etc., and they can assign us a new, different role at any moment.

>

> I don't think I've ever been just me, myself, to my nada. She doesn't know

> me at all; who I am, really. I'm just characters in her play, I guess.

>

> I really do think the earlier generations of psychologists nailed it, and

> the person with borderline pd has got one foot in neurosis and the other

> foot in psychosis.

>

> -Annie

>

>

>

> >

> > Nada came out with a winner a few days ago. Always picking on my weight,

> she asked, " Do you meditate? " I almost fell off my chair! I didn't even

> think nada knew what meditation was really. I replied, " yes " . She then said

> as if she didn't even hear my yes, " put your hands on your lap palms up

> sitting down. Close your eyes and say to the room, " I am thin " - " I am thin

> and you will be! An old woman told me that years ago and I've always done

> that. " No, nada you have never meditated in all the years I knew you so

> what's this about?! I doubt it's true. I sincerely think she absolutely is

> lying and of course what she said is absurd. Not that I don't believe in

> positive thinking, but if it were THAT simple we'd all be thin now wouldn't

> we!

> >

> > I think we ARE just an extension of them and not human at all. A month

> ago she said to me that I am to sell or give away everything I own here and

> only take my clothes and cats when she dies - live in her house with all her

> things 'just as they are' and 'never change a thing or I will haunt you

> forever'. Of course I am not going to live in her house nor am I going to

> live with her things. Everything will be give away, thrown away or sold

> along with the house. BAD energy - BAD memories for me and not what I want

> nor where I want to live. Whose life is this anyway?!

> >

> > She also said that she needs to teach me to be just like her because only

> she and my one friend she approves of " Pip " are 'perfect' and the rest of us

> are all flawed. She said she doesn't have long so hurry up and learn how to

> be just like me will you.

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Thanks to those who responded!

VERY well put, Annie! I think our nadas do write their own play with us as just

one of their characters.

Won't nada be shocked from the other side when I publish a book all about her

life (her REAL life) and not one that is fraught with all her " I'm perfect " and

other idiotic things she thinks are the truth.

No my nada doesn't know me at ALL!! She THINKS she does but this is so far off

she is on another planet.