Re: Is it better to eat to the feeling of satisfied or not hungry?

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Hello -- you answered your first q. 2nd = yes, I have the same experience and that is how I interpret it. 3rd = I don't know, it's an interesting question. I would have thought the correlation might be more of a connection between how close to bedtime one eats and difficulty sleeping. But you seem to be saying "what I eat and how much I sleep" ?? Like do you sleep longer if you have protein at your last feeding of the day??

To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2011 3:14 PMSubject: Is it better to eat to the feeling of "satisfied" or "not hungry"?

2. Often, after I have eaten to "fully satisfied", I feel a lump in my throat. Like a piece of food stayed up there. It is rather uncomfortable because I feel I need to eat more to push it down into the stomach with more food. Water doesn't seem to wash it down. Does anyone have a similar experience? I wonder if that means I ate too much. It might be possible.3. I am looking into correlation between what I eat in the evening and how much I sleep. I eliminated alarm clock (unless I need to be somewhere in the morning) and I am experimenting with Intuitive Sleeping. I prefer having more awake hours but I do understand that the body is smarter than my brain. I find that I indulge myself with more sleep than I really need by enjoying the feeling of being warm in bed. Exactly how I used to eat; indulging myself with food instead of eating when hungry and until I feel satisfied. Anyone else has some thoughts on that?

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I think you did a good job answering your own first question and I had the same experience.  But it was not only the quantity but the quality that curbed my appetite.  Like being sure I have some protein with carbs and fats.  I have not had the lump in the throat experience.  Sounds like it might be a good learning experience to play around with and see if it is a signal, and stop before then? I have a friend who sleeps when he is tired and until he naturally wakes up.  He takes a nap in the afternoon, sometimes a long one if he has been up late the night before.(We're retired).  When he can't sleep sometimes he gets up in the middle of the night to play his guitar.  After about an hour he is ready for sleep again.  I still often ignore my need for that nap because then I have a hard time sleeping at night.  I like your calling it intuitive sleeping. I once slept for almost 2 days. Guess I was tired and my body needed time to heal.  Sandy

 

Hi everyone,

I feel delighted to have found this forum. It is so different from the " dieting " forums. There is no pressure and really no oppression that people treat themselves with. I appreciate that.

I have a few questions that have arisen from my IE experimentation:

1. Is it better to eat until I feel " satisfied " or " not hungry " ? I find that if I only eat until I am not hungry, I get hungry in an hour or so and have to eat lots of small meals. My day becomes more about food than I'd like to it be. So, I just answered my question: For me, I prefer eating so that I am satisfied for at least 3 hours.

2. Often, after I have eaten to " fully satisfied " , I feel a lump in my throat. Like a piece of food stayed up there. It is rather uncomfortable because I feel I need to eat more to push it down into the stomach with more food. Water doesn't seem to wash it down. Does anyone have a similar experience? I wonder if that means I ate too much. It might be possible.

3. I am looking into correlation between what I eat in the evening and how much I sleep. I eliminated alarm clock (unless I need to be somewhere in the morning) and I am experimenting with Intuitive Sleeping. I prefer having more awake hours but I do understand that the body is smarter than my brain. I find that I indulge myself with more sleep than I really need by enjoying the feeling of being warm in bed. Exactly how I used to eat; indulging myself with food instead of eating when hungry and until I feel satisfied. Anyone else has some thoughts on that?

[Guest guest]

I think you did a good job answering your own first question and I had the same experience.  But it was not only the quantity but the quality that curbed my appetite.  Like being sure I have some protein with carbs and fats.  I have not had the lump in the throat experience.  Sounds like it might be a good learning experience to play around with and see if it is a signal, and stop before then? I have a friend who sleeps when he is tired and until he naturally wakes up.  He takes a nap in the afternoon, sometimes a long one if he has been up late the night before.(We're retired).  When he can't sleep sometimes he gets up in the middle of the night to play his guitar.  After about an hour he is ready for sleep again.  I still often ignore my need for that nap because then I have a hard time sleeping at night.  I like your calling it intuitive sleeping. I once slept for almost 2 days. Guess I was tired and my body needed time to heal.  Sandy

 

Hi everyone,

I feel delighted to have found this forum. It is so different from the " dieting " forums. There is no pressure and really no oppression that people treat themselves with. I appreciate that.

I have a few questions that have arisen from my IE experimentation:

1. Is it better to eat until I feel " satisfied " or " not hungry " ? I find that if I only eat until I am not hungry, I get hungry in an hour or so and have to eat lots of small meals. My day becomes more about food than I'd like to it be. So, I just answered my question: For me, I prefer eating so that I am satisfied for at least 3 hours.

2. Often, after I have eaten to " fully satisfied " , I feel a lump in my throat. Like a piece of food stayed up there. It is rather uncomfortable because I feel I need to eat more to push it down into the stomach with more food. Water doesn't seem to wash it down. Does anyone have a similar experience? I wonder if that means I ate too much. It might be possible.

3. I am looking into correlation between what I eat in the evening and how much I sleep. I eliminated alarm clock (unless I need to be somewhere in the morning) and I am experimenting with Intuitive Sleeping. I prefer having more awake hours but I do understand that the body is smarter than my brain. I find that I indulge myself with more sleep than I really need by enjoying the feeling of being warm in bed. Exactly how I used to eat; indulging myself with food instead of eating when hungry and until I feel satisfied. Anyone else has some thoughts on that?

[Guest guest]

I think you did a good job answering your own first question and I had the same experience.  But it was not only the quantity but the quality that curbed my appetite.  Like being sure I have some protein with carbs and fats.  I have not had the lump in the throat experience.  Sounds like it might be a good learning experience to play around with and see if it is a signal, and stop before then? I have a friend who sleeps when he is tired and until he naturally wakes up.  He takes a nap in the afternoon, sometimes a long one if he has been up late the night before.(We're retired).  When he can't sleep sometimes he gets up in the middle of the night to play his guitar.  After about an hour he is ready for sleep again.  I still often ignore my need for that nap because then I have a hard time sleeping at night.  I like your calling it intuitive sleeping. I once slept for almost 2 days. Guess I was tired and my body needed time to heal.  Sandy

 

Hi everyone,

I feel delighted to have found this forum. It is so different from the " dieting " forums. There is no pressure and really no oppression that people treat themselves with. I appreciate that.

I have a few questions that have arisen from my IE experimentation:

1. Is it better to eat until I feel " satisfied " or " not hungry " ? I find that if I only eat until I am not hungry, I get hungry in an hour or so and have to eat lots of small meals. My day becomes more about food than I'd like to it be. So, I just answered my question: For me, I prefer eating so that I am satisfied for at least 3 hours.

2. Often, after I have eaten to " fully satisfied " , I feel a lump in my throat. Like a piece of food stayed up there. It is rather uncomfortable because I feel I need to eat more to push it down into the stomach with more food. Water doesn't seem to wash it down. Does anyone have a similar experience? I wonder if that means I ate too much. It might be possible.

3. I am looking into correlation between what I eat in the evening and how much I sleep. I eliminated alarm clock (unless I need to be somewhere in the morning) and I am experimenting with Intuitive Sleeping. I prefer having more awake hours but I do understand that the body is smarter than my brain. I find that I indulge myself with more sleep than I really need by enjoying the feeling of being warm in bed. Exactly how I used to eat; indulging myself with food instead of eating when hungry and until I feel satisfied. Anyone else has some thoughts on that?

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My recognition of " satisfied " is so faulty that when I go that far, I usually

end up " overfull " a few minutes later. Stopping at " no longer receiving hunger

signals " helps me avoid that. The feeling of wishing to keep eating disappears

within no more than 5 minutes max.

The length of time before I am hungry again seems to depend for me primarily

upon what I ate. If I make sure to include protein in my feeding, then I know

I'll be fine for a decent interval. Desserts or chips don't last long at all,

but a hard boiled egg or legumes or dairy or meat will hold me well.

Of course, if I eat to " overfull, " I won't be hungry for a long time, because

I'll be suffering from an uncomfortable tummy for hours. Ugh. I got compulsive

and did that yesterday and boy, was I sorry all afternoon. It didn't help

anything, but it sure felt awful.

The only times I can recall feeling like something was stuck in my throat when

it wasn't was when I'd really overstuff until I was nauseous. All I can imagine

is that it wasn't quite fitting within the stomach and stuck out the top a bit.

I'm not sure if that's what you're experiencing at all.

I've enjoyed the times in my life when I could just allow my body to determine

how long I slept. Sometimes it's wonderful to cuddle back into the covers and

snooze longer and if schedule allows, I see no harm. So many factors influence

how long I would prefer to sleep: dark vs. light, warm vs. cold, level of

stress and whether I have anything to do I dread, mood, etc. I don't pick on

myself about oversleeping (actually, I rarely have the opportunity and so I

luxuriate when I can). But like any other area of self-care, yes, my body will

tell me what I need to know.

Jane

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> Hi everyone,

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> I feel delighted to have found this forum. It is so different from the

" dieting " forums. There is no pressure and really no oppression that people

treat themselves with. I appreciate that.

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> I have a few questions that have arisen from my IE experimentation:

> 1. Is it better to eat until I feel " satisfied " or " not hungry " ? I find that

if I only eat until I am not hungry, I get hungry in an hour or so and have to

eat lots of small meals. My day becomes more about food than I'd like to it be.

So, I just answered my question: For me, I prefer eating so that I am satisfied

for at least 3 hours.

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> 2. Often, after I have eaten to " fully satisfied " , I feel a lump in my throat.

Like a piece of food stayed up there. It is rather uncomfortable because I feel

I need to eat more to push it down into the stomach with more food. Water

doesn't seem to wash it down. Does anyone have a similar experience? I wonder if

that means I ate too much. It might be possible.

>

> 3. I am looking into correlation between what I eat in the evening and how

much I sleep. I eliminated alarm clock (unless I need to be somewhere in the

morning) and I am experimenting with Intuitive Sleeping. I prefer having more

awake hours but I do understand that the body is smarter than my brain. I find

that I indulge myself with more sleep than I really need by enjoying the feeling

of being warm in bed. Exactly how I used to eat; indulging myself with food

instead of eating when hungry and until I feel satisfied. Anyone else has some

thoughts on that?

>

[Guest guest]

2. Often, after I have eaten to "fully satisfied", I feel a lump in my throat. Like a piece of food stayed up there. It is rather uncomfortable because I feel I need to eat more to push it down into the stomach with more food. Water doesn't seem to wash it down. Does anyone have a similar experience? I wonder if that means I ate too much. It might be possible.If I eat past satisfied, it's like I go into last meal mode. It's very strange. I'm working on that -- not fighting it so much as talking to myself about it to see if I can sort out what is happening so I can move through it. Patti

[Guest guest]

2. Often, after I have eaten to "fully satisfied", I feel a lump in my throat. Like a piece of food stayed up there. It is rather uncomfortable because I feel I need to eat more to push it down into the stomach with more food. Water doesn't seem to wash it down. Does anyone have a similar experience? I wonder if that means I ate too much. It might be possible.If I eat past satisfied, it's like I go into last meal mode. It's very strange. I'm working on that -- not fighting it so much as talking to myself about it to see if I can sort out what is happening so I can move through it. Patti

[Guest guest]

Patti, I sometimes do this, too. For me, it's the feeling of "I've blown it" and then the accompanying "I can't do that again," which leads to "I better eat all this now because I won't allow myself to overeat like this again." Thus, last supper eating.

I'm trying to gently say to myself, "Oh well, that's OK" if I do end up overeating.

Mimi

Subject: Re: Is it better to eat to the feeling of "satisfied" or "not hungry"?To: "IntuitiveEating_Support " <IntuitiveEating_Support >Date: Tuesday, September 27, 2011, 12:37 PM

2. Often, after I have eaten to "fully satisfied", I feel a lump in my throat. Like a piece of food stayed up there. It is rather uncomfortable because I feel I need to eat more to push it down into the stomach with more food. Water doesn't seem to wash it down. Does anyone have a similar experience? I wonder if that means I ate too much. It might be possible.

If I eat past satisfied, it's like I go into last meal mode. It's very strange. I'm working on that -- not fighting it so much as talking to myself about it to see if I can sort out what is happening so I can move through it.

Patti

[Guest guest]

So, instead of feeling like we,ve " blown it " we do what? Talk to ourselves

about where we are? Kindly, and gently supporting ourselves? Because obviously

the overeating is serving some kind of need, and last supper eating is our

bodies/minds/whatever trying to keep us from starving ourselves. So it has to

be okay to overeat, to say, yes, I'm perhaps uncomfortable now, but that feeling

will go away, and I'll be able to eat again as soon as I feel the need to again.

Tilley

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> 2. Often, after I have eaten to " fully satisfied " , I feel a lump in my throat.

Like a piece of food stayed up there. It is rather uncomfortable because I feel

I need to eat more to push it down into the stomach with more food. Water

doesn't seem to wash it down. Does anyone have a similar experience? I wonder if

that means I ate too much. It might be possible.

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strange. I'm working on that -- not fighting it so much as talking to myself

about it to see if I can sort out what is happening so I can move through it.Â

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2. Often, after I have eaten to " fully satisfied " , I feel a lump in my throat. Like a piece of food stayed up there. It is rather uncomfortable because I feel I need to eat more to push it down into the stomach with more food. Water doesn't seem to wash it down. Does anyone have a similar experience? I wonder if that means I ate too much. It might be possible.

Maybe you are having acid reflux? And food removes the acid, thus bringing relief?Best,

Abby