Guest guest Posted July 24, 2004 Report Share Posted July 24, 2004 > , I am done doctor-shopping. I have had consults with three >of big names in this business, two with the French procedure, one >with the Italian procedure. My head is spinning with information >overload. but I am leaning towards Dr. Natale. He has just, simply, >done more than anyone else. Tell me what you think. > ............................ I too am done doctor shopping. I have also had consults with 3 big names in the EP field, Natale of the CC, Morady of U of M and Haines of Beaumont Hospital, in Michigan> I have narrowed my choices to Natale or Haines and if I lived closer to the CC I'd definitely go with Natale if he assured me that he himself with his own hands would be doing the procedure. The benefit of having the thing done close to home is that in the event that you needed ER treatment after the operation you'd have the local doctor who did the procedure there for you. What type of protocal does Natale do, the French or Italian? P <Michigan> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 24, 2004 Report Share Posted July 24, 2004 > , I am done doctor-shopping. I have had consults with three >of big names in this business, two with the French procedure, one >with the Italian procedure. My head is spinning with information >overload. but I am leaning towards Dr. Natale. He has just, simply, >done more than anyone else. Tell me what you think. > ............................ I too am done doctor shopping. I have also had consults with 3 big names in the EP field, Natale of the CC, Morady of U of M and Haines of Beaumont Hospital, in Michigan> I have narrowed my choices to Natale or Haines and if I lived closer to the CC I'd definitely go with Natale if he assured me that he himself with his own hands would be doing the procedure. The benefit of having the thing done close to home is that in the event that you needed ER treatment after the operation you'd have the local doctor who did the procedure there for you. What type of protocal does Natale do, the French or Italian? P <Michigan> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 25, 2004 Report Share Posted July 25, 2004 > Excellent report . > Rich O Thank you, Rich O. Just trying to make some sense out of all of this information. And to share what I find out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 25, 2004 Report Share Posted July 25, 2004 > Excellent report . > Rich O Thank you, Rich O. Just trying to make some sense out of all of this information. And to share what I find out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 25, 2004 Report Share Posted July 25, 2004 > Excellent report . > Rich O Thank you, Rich O. Just trying to make some sense out of all of this information. And to share what I find out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 26, 2004 Report Share Posted July 26, 2004 HI from a Newbie:I have read alot of comments in reference to an ABLATION. One question: What is it? Thanks, Beanie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 27, 2004 Report Share Posted July 27, 2004 > , I'm curious to know why you wouldn't choose Dr. Morady, you > being so close in terms of distance. I'm also curious as to why you > don't know which procedure Dr. Natale performs, the French or the > Italian, if you went and talked to him. ........................................................ I really didn't like the U of M for several reasons which I'm not going to get into on a public message board. Plus the wait for Morady is as long as the wait for Natale who said he could get to me sometime in February 2005. And the CC, in my opinion, is a world class operation. I say that after a long history of coronary artery disease and expierence with several different hospitals. I'd put Beaumont Hospital in Michigan right up there with the CC. Also I'm very close to Beaumont Hospital and a Dr Haines who makes differet burn patterns then Natale or Morady. According to what I've been told by a couple EP's " no one can tell you which pattern is better because there have been no direct studies done to compare them. " When I talked to Natale I had a bunch of questions written down to ask him but I forgot several of them including the one about what type of burn patterns he makes. Like you said in your message " My head is [was] spinning with information overload. " Our conversation quickly turned to my taking Amiodorone which got me off track. As a matter of fact one of the first questions he asked was about the Amiodorone and then that opened up a whole other set of questions for which I wasn't prepared for. His nurse? gave me her number to call if I needed more info or just to tell her how I was doing. I did call and left a message but I haven't received a return call as of yet. P <MI> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 27, 2004 Report Share Posted July 27, 2004 > , I'm curious to know why you wouldn't choose Dr. Morady, you > being so close in terms of distance. I'm also curious as to why you > don't know which procedure Dr. Natale performs, the French or the > Italian, if you went and talked to him. ........................................................ I really didn't like the U of M for several reasons which I'm not going to get into on a public message board. Plus the wait for Morady is as long as the wait for Natale who said he could get to me sometime in February 2005. And the CC, in my opinion, is a world class operation. I say that after a long history of coronary artery disease and expierence with several different hospitals. I'd put Beaumont Hospital in Michigan right up there with the CC. Also I'm very close to Beaumont Hospital and a Dr Haines who makes differet burn patterns then Natale or Morady. According to what I've been told by a couple EP's " no one can tell you which pattern is better because there have been no direct studies done to compare them. " When I talked to Natale I had a bunch of questions written down to ask him but I forgot several of them including the one about what type of burn patterns he makes. Like you said in your message " My head is [was] spinning with information overload. " Our conversation quickly turned to my taking Amiodorone which got me off track. As a matter of fact one of the first questions he asked was about the Amiodorone and then that opened up a whole other set of questions for which I wasn't prepared for. His nurse? gave me her number to call if I needed more info or just to tell her how I was doing. I did call and left a message but I haven't received a return call as of yet. P <MI> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 27, 2004 Report Share Posted July 27, 2004 > , I'm curious to know why you wouldn't choose Dr. Morady, you > being so close in terms of distance. I'm also curious as to why you > don't know which procedure Dr. Natale performs, the French or the > Italian, if you went and talked to him. ........................................................ I really didn't like the U of M for several reasons which I'm not going to get into on a public message board. Plus the wait for Morady is as long as the wait for Natale who said he could get to me sometime in February 2005. And the CC, in my opinion, is a world class operation. I say that after a long history of coronary artery disease and expierence with several different hospitals. I'd put Beaumont Hospital in Michigan right up there with the CC. Also I'm very close to Beaumont Hospital and a Dr Haines who makes differet burn patterns then Natale or Morady. According to what I've been told by a couple EP's " no one can tell you which pattern is better because there have been no direct studies done to compare them. " When I talked to Natale I had a bunch of questions written down to ask him but I forgot several of them including the one about what type of burn patterns he makes. Like you said in your message " My head is [was] spinning with information overload. " Our conversation quickly turned to my taking Amiodorone which got me off track. As a matter of fact one of the first questions he asked was about the Amiodorone and then that opened up a whole other set of questions for which I wasn't prepared for. His nurse? gave me her number to call if I needed more info or just to tell her how I was doing. I did call and left a message but I haven't received a return call as of yet. P <MI> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 27, 2004 Report Share Posted July 27, 2004 > When I talked to Natale I had a bunch of questions written down to > ask him but I forgot several of them including the one about what > type of burn patterns he makes. I may be wrong and/or out of date but I seem to remember reading awhile ago that Dr. H in France makes individual ( " broken " , segmental) burns about the openings while Dr. Natale makes a continuous burn. I think there were competing papers. It's also possible that I have this backwards :-) If someone motivated wanted to search on the net, they could probably find the papers. One thing I do besides take a list of questions with me is I put a little box next to each question and check it off when it gets answered. Then I do a quick look over the boxes before I leave to make sure I haven't missed any important ones. I still think the recorder someone mentioned is a great idea. Answers really fall out of my head, probably from stress or my " senior moments " and then sometimes I find my notes unintelligible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 27, 2004 Report Share Posted July 27, 2004 > When I talked to Natale I had a bunch of questions written down to > ask him but I forgot several of them including the one about what > type of burn patterns he makes. I may be wrong and/or out of date but I seem to remember reading awhile ago that Dr. H in France makes individual ( " broken " , segmental) burns about the openings while Dr. Natale makes a continuous burn. I think there were competing papers. It's also possible that I have this backwards :-) If someone motivated wanted to search on the net, they could probably find the papers. One thing I do besides take a list of questions with me is I put a little box next to each question and check it off when it gets answered. Then I do a quick look over the boxes before I leave to make sure I haven't missed any important ones. I still think the recorder someone mentioned is a great idea. Answers really fall out of my head, probably from stress or my " senior moments " and then sometimes I find my notes unintelligible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 1, 2004 Report Share Posted August 1, 2004 Hi , I know the feeling you are going through, hang in there and by all means do not give up. I had the ablation and thought about the maze and going to sweden for the procedure. Instead I went to france and had the PVA. there is a data base on the site take a look at all of us who have had this procedure. C > >Hi everyone, I am just wondering how many people out there have >thought of having an ablation for their afib or perhaps even the >maze proceedure? I myself am going crazy been now in afib for about >2 weeks. I think at this point I am going to try anything for >this. Can I ask you for some feedback on this question? Thank >you.lynne > > > > > Codling Hornchurch Essex England Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 1, 2004 Report Share Posted August 1, 2004 > Hi everyone, I am just wondering how many people out there have > thought of having an ablation for their afib or perhaps even the > maze proceedure? > Hi lynne, of the 468 entries in my database 87 have ticked ablation http://www.dialsolutions.com/af/database/index.html?Adv=1 & _ablation=1#results 8 have ticked MAZE http://www.dialsolutions.com/af/database/index.html?Adv=1 & _maze=1#results not a very scientific answer but about 1 in 5 I'm guessing that in reality it will be quite a lot less than 20% of the whole AF population. (I wouldn't be surprised if dropping the zero would be nearer the mark) Non of this though should have any influence on what is the right track for you. If you are a good candidate for an ablation it really doesn't matter if you are 1 in a million or 1 in ten, doing what's right for you is the right thing to do I hope that talking to the professionals will take you down the right road. All the best. -- D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 1, 2004 Report Share Posted August 1, 2004 I am fairly new at this computer, thank you all so much for your answers to me. I so appreciate it....... I am so glad I found this site.......Lynne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 1, 2004 Report Share Posted August 1, 2004 I am fairly new at this computer, thank you all so much for your answers to me. I so appreciate it....... I am so glad I found this site.......Lynne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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