Guest guest Posted November 15, 2011 Report Share Posted November 15, 2011 I know something is significant when it comes to me in my sleep and I need to wake up and write it down immediately or I'll never have it so clear again. It seems that I have looked on mindful eating as 'the key' to weight adjustment. Perhaps rather like all those other 'miracle' items a la dieting ;-) Yet whenever I TRIED to practice mind-full-ness I would 99% of the time slip into mindless-ness! It always felt like trying to force 2 same pole magnets together - repealing each other is all that happens. Why was this happening to me?!? It clicked last night - what I needed was mindless-ness - actually the allowance to NOT force but to just 'be' - right (for me) or wrong (per others). As it turns out I have ended up back-dooring this step by simply letting myself 'notice' - not LOOK FOR, but that ahhhh - hmmmm moment that pops up of its own accord. Noticing instead of deliberate 'new habit' drive took me a lot longer than I had in mind when I began IE, but now I see that 'getting' all of IE in one huge, fast undertaking would be like running thru a fabulous art museum instead of pausing at pieces that I like and passing over those that didn't interest me. Now I find that my 'oh!' moments are delightful and much more meaningful than I ever could have imagined. Plus they are so much more precious because they are a genuine gift to myself and cost me only 'just noticing'. Katcha IEing since March 2007 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 15, 2011 Report Share Posted November 15, 2011 " ...to just 'be' - right (for me) or wrong (per others). " And, " ...but now I see that 'getting' all of IE in one huge, fast undertaking would be like running thru a fabulous art museum instead of pausing at pieces that I like and passing over those that didn't interest me. " Excellent point. I got very mixed up by trying to make myself be mindful ala Geneen Roth's works and my own imagination as to what mindfulness is supposed to feel like. Rather than actually comng present to my experience, I was generating some kind of altered state that felt good - but it wasn't real. So... finding that softer way to just be present and inhabit my experience rather in yet another set of rules is the zen of it... Thanks for the clear thoughts on this. Sandarah > > I know something is significant when it comes to me in my sleep and I need to wake up and write it down immediately or I'll never have it so clear again. > > It seems that I have looked on mindful eating as 'the key' to weight adjustment. Perhaps rather like all those other 'miracle' items a la dieting ;-) Yet whenever I TRIED to practice mind-full-ness I would 99% of the time slip into mindless-ness! It always felt like trying to force 2 same pole magnets together - repealing each other is all that happens. Why was this happening to me?!? > > It clicked last night - what I needed was mindless-ness - actually the allowance to NOT force but to just 'be' - right (for me) or wrong (per others). As it turns out I have ended up back-dooring this step by simply letting myself 'notice' - not LOOK FOR, but that ahhhh - hmmmm moment that pops up of its own accord. Noticing instead of deliberate 'new habit' drive took me a lot longer than I had in mind when I began IE, but now I see that 'getting' all of IE in one huge, fast undertaking would be like running thru a fabulous art museum instead of pausing at pieces that I like and passing over those that didn't interest me. > > Now I find that my 'oh!' moments are delightful and much more meaningful than I ever could have imagined. Plus they are so much more precious because they are a genuine gift to myself and cost me only 'just noticing'. > > Katcha > IEing since March 2007 > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 15, 2011 Report Share Posted November 15, 2011 " ...to just 'be' - right (for me) or wrong (per others). " And, " ...but now I see that 'getting' all of IE in one huge, fast undertaking would be like running thru a fabulous art museum instead of pausing at pieces that I like and passing over those that didn't interest me. " Excellent point. I got very mixed up by trying to make myself be mindful ala Geneen Roth's works and my own imagination as to what mindfulness is supposed to feel like. Rather than actually comng present to my experience, I was generating some kind of altered state that felt good - but it wasn't real. So... finding that softer way to just be present and inhabit my experience rather in yet another set of rules is the zen of it... Thanks for the clear thoughts on this. Sandarah > > I know something is significant when it comes to me in my sleep and I need to wake up and write it down immediately or I'll never have it so clear again. > > It seems that I have looked on mindful eating as 'the key' to weight adjustment. Perhaps rather like all those other 'miracle' items a la dieting ;-) Yet whenever I TRIED to practice mind-full-ness I would 99% of the time slip into mindless-ness! It always felt like trying to force 2 same pole magnets together - repealing each other is all that happens. Why was this happening to me?!? > > It clicked last night - what I needed was mindless-ness - actually the allowance to NOT force but to just 'be' - right (for me) or wrong (per others). As it turns out I have ended up back-dooring this step by simply letting myself 'notice' - not LOOK FOR, but that ahhhh - hmmmm moment that pops up of its own accord. Noticing instead of deliberate 'new habit' drive took me a lot longer than I had in mind when I began IE, but now I see that 'getting' all of IE in one huge, fast undertaking would be like running thru a fabulous art museum instead of pausing at pieces that I like and passing over those that didn't interest me. > > Now I find that my 'oh!' moments are delightful and much more meaningful than I ever could have imagined. Plus they are so much more precious because they are a genuine gift to myself and cost me only 'just noticing'. > > Katcha > IEing since March 2007 > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 15, 2011 Report Share Posted November 15, 2011 " ...to just 'be' - right (for me) or wrong (per others). " And, " ...but now I see that 'getting' all of IE in one huge, fast undertaking would be like running thru a fabulous art museum instead of pausing at pieces that I like and passing over those that didn't interest me. " Excellent point. I got very mixed up by trying to make myself be mindful ala Geneen Roth's works and my own imagination as to what mindfulness is supposed to feel like. Rather than actually comng present to my experience, I was generating some kind of altered state that felt good - but it wasn't real. So... finding that softer way to just be present and inhabit my experience rather in yet another set of rules is the zen of it... Thanks for the clear thoughts on this. Sandarah > > I know something is significant when it comes to me in my sleep and I need to wake up and write it down immediately or I'll never have it so clear again. > > It seems that I have looked on mindful eating as 'the key' to weight adjustment. Perhaps rather like all those other 'miracle' items a la dieting ;-) Yet whenever I TRIED to practice mind-full-ness I would 99% of the time slip into mindless-ness! It always felt like trying to force 2 same pole magnets together - repealing each other is all that happens. Why was this happening to me?!? > > It clicked last night - what I needed was mindless-ness - actually the allowance to NOT force but to just 'be' - right (for me) or wrong (per others). As it turns out I have ended up back-dooring this step by simply letting myself 'notice' - not LOOK FOR, but that ahhhh - hmmmm moment that pops up of its own accord. Noticing instead of deliberate 'new habit' drive took me a lot longer than I had in mind when I began IE, but now I see that 'getting' all of IE in one huge, fast undertaking would be like running thru a fabulous art museum instead of pausing at pieces that I like and passing over those that didn't interest me. > > Now I find that my 'oh!' moments are delightful and much more meaningful than I ever could have imagined. Plus they are so much more precious because they are a genuine gift to myself and cost me only 'just noticing'. > > Katcha > IEing since March 2007 > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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