Re: Re: Two KO relevant poems---by Oliver

[Guest guest]

Yes, they do. So many creative people in one place... I wish we could

combine our poems, short stories & art into a book. I have no idea how to

go about doing that, or even if anyone would be interested, but it's

something that I keep thinking when I read all these awesome poems. Maybe

the proceeded could go to a non-profit who raises awareness about abuse.

*shrug* Ok I'll shut up now lol

Mia

On Sun, Jan 16, 2011 at 1:01 PM, anuria67854 wrote:

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> Those are lovely. I've been enjoying all the poems posted here over the

> last few weeks, they really speak to the KO experience.

> -Annie

>

[Guest guest]

Yes, they do. So many creative people in one place... I wish we could

combine our poems, short stories & art into a book. I have no idea how to

go about doing that, or even if anyone would be interested, but it's

something that I keep thinking when I read all these awesome poems. Maybe

the proceeded could go to a non-profit who raises awareness about abuse.

*shrug* Ok I'll shut up now lol

Mia

On Sun, Jan 16, 2011 at 1:01 PM, anuria67854 wrote:

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>

> Those are lovely. I've been enjoying all the poems posted here over the

> last few weeks, they really speak to the KO experience.

> -Annie

>

[Guest guest]

I like that idea, Mia! Especially if all profits go to fund awareness about

abuse and about Borderline Personality Disorder. It's surprising how many

people haven't heard about BPD until I've talked about it.

I wonder how many people would be helped if they knew about BPD? that

they're not alone?

Holly

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> Yes, they do. So many creative people in one place... I wish we could

> combine our poems, short stories & art into a book. I have no idea how to

> go about doing that, or even if anyone would be interested, but it's

> something that I keep thinking when I read all these awesome poems. Maybe

> the proceeded could go to a non-profit who raises awareness about abuse.

> *shrug* Ok I'll shut up now lol

>

> Mia

>

> On Sun, Jan 16, 2011 at 1:01 PM, anuria67854

<anuria-67854@...<anuria-67854%40mypacks.net>

> >wrote:

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> > Those are lovely. I've been enjoying all the poems posted here over the

> > last few weeks, they really speak to the KO experience.

> > -Annie

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>

[Guest guest]

That was my thought, Holly, how many people think they're struggling alone

out there? Goodness knows I thought I was for the longest time.

I would like to keep hearing what people think about this, good idea? bad

idea? Questions, concerns, etc. Maybe if we put our heads together we could

make it happen.

I don't know lol. I hate " dreaming " out loud... I'm always afraid my ideas

are stupid. Can you say fleas? LOL

Mia

[Guest guest]

Mia, same thing here--I go between " this is a great idea! " to " this is a

stupid idea... " quite a bit about my writing quite a bit.

But this one is a great idea, and that makes 2 people who think so! I'll be

pondering about ways to go about organizing the effort. I've helped put

together collaborative works before into a small book, in one of my classes

in undergrad.

I think what would help is if we could accept previously published work

(acknowledged as such) and for new work, not have an exclusive copyright to

it. That is, people can still use their piece for their own works without

worrying about legal tangles.

Hmmmm....

Holly

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> That was my thought, Holly, how many people think they're struggling alone

> out there? Goodness knows I thought I was for the longest time.

>

> I would like to keep hearing what people think about this, good idea? bad

> idea? Questions, concerns, etc. Maybe if we put our heads together we could

> make it happen.

>

> I don't know lol. I hate " dreaming " out loud... I'm always afraid my ideas

> are stupid. Can you say fleas? LOL

>

> Mia

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I like those ideas a lot Holly. I was talking a bit with my fiance about

it, he had what I think is a good idea - maybe a forward by a therapist or

someone experienced in BPD & it's effects on the kids? (Hey, maybe Randi

would do it hehe).

I don't know. Still lots of thought to go into this, and of course it

depends if other people here are interested.

It also has to be something everyone feels safe & comfortable with. I think

safety is a concern for me, I think it would be safe to say it might be for

all of us as KOs. So how do we keep thinks anonymous, yet get permission

from the writer/artist to use what they've created, you know?

Just thinking out loud.

Mia

[Guest guest]

That would be awesome if Randi could do a foreword, lol!

As for anonymity, that could be up to the individuals whether they want to

be or not. I'm fine with using my real name for now, for example, but some

others probably would prefer anonymity.

I asked my husband who's pretty knowledgable about these sorts of things,

and he said that we would need to have them sign a non-exclusive

permission/license (so they can be free to use what they've written for

their own work) with their real name for legal purposes--but we would never

disclose their identity, and we could publish it under a pseudonym of their

choice. We could specify that only some people, disclosed in the license

agreement, would be able to see their real names, and we would contact the

writers/artists if we need to disclose their names to another person (like

the publisher, etc). I think any editors won't need their names in order to

edit, and we could function as a mediator between folks who want that extra

layer of security.

I'm hoping this would be secure enough for most folks to feel comfortable

with contributing. Basically, it's almost like the same security n

Assagne (sp?) is using--communicating only through a few mediators, hah.

There's probably sample permission/license forms online that I could try to

adapt for this purpose, as a starting point. What do you (and everybody

else) think?

Holly

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> I like those ideas a lot Holly. I was talking a bit with my fiance about

> it, he had what I think is a good idea - maybe a forward by a therapist or

> someone experienced in BPD & it's effects on the kids? (Hey, maybe Randi

> would do it hehe).

>

> I don't know. Still lots of thought to go into this, and of course it

> depends if other people here are interested.

>

> It also has to be something everyone feels safe & comfortable with. I think

> safety is a concern for me, I think it would be safe to say it might be for

> all of us as KOs. So how do we keep thinks anonymous, yet get permission

> from the writer/artist to use what they've created, you know?

>

> Just thinking out loud.

>

>

> Mia

>

>

[Guest guest]

I think that sounds like a really good idea Holly. I think that's what

fiance was talking about when I was telling him about it.

Maybe we should start another thread & see what others think? I'd love to do

something like this. I think it would be therapeutic for me and maybe help

others too. And like I said, we'd have to find a good legit non-profit to

have the proceeds go to. Going to take some work & research, but if folks

are interested - we're a smart bunch. We can probably make it happen.

Might take some time, but I think it could.

That scares me a little... still that whole idea of " dreaming " and

everything lol.

Mia

On Sun, Jan 16, 2011 at 6:12 PM, Holly Byers

wrote:

> That would be awesome if Randi could do a foreword, lol!

>

> As for anonymity, that could be up to the individuals whether they want to

> be or not. I'm fine with using my real name for now, for example, but some

> others probably would prefer anonymity.

>

> I asked my husband who's pretty knowledgable about these sorts of things,

> and he said that we would need to have them sign a non-exclusive

> permission/license (so they can be free to use what they've written for

> their own work) with their real name for legal purposes--but we would never

> disclose their identity, and we could publish it under a pseudonym of their

> choice. We could specify that only some people, disclosed in the license

> agreement, would be able to see their real names, and we would contact the

> writers/artists if we need to disclose their names to another person (like

> the publisher, etc). I think any editors won't need their names in order to

> edit, and we could function as a mediator between folks who want that extra

> layer of security.

>

> I'm hoping this would be secure enough for most folks to feel comfortable

> with contributing. Basically, it's almost like the same security n

> Assagne (sp?) is using--communicating only through a few mediators, hah.

>

> There's probably sample permission/license forms online that I could try to

> adapt for this purpose, as a starting point. What do you (and everybody

> else) think?

>

> Holly

>

>

>

> >

> >

> > I like those ideas a lot Holly. I was talking a bit with my fiance about

> > it, he had what I think is a good idea - maybe a forward by a therapist

> or

> > someone experienced in BPD & it's effects on the kids? (Hey, maybe Randi

> > would do it hehe).

> >

> > I don't know. Still lots of thought to go into this, and of course it

> > depends if other people here are interested.

> >

> > It also has to be something everyone feels safe & comfortable with. I

> think

> > safety is a concern for me, I think it would be safe to say it might be

> for

> > all of us as KOs. So how do we keep thinks anonymous, yet get permission

> > from the writer/artist to use what they've created, you know?

> >

> > Just thinking out loud.

> >

> >

> > Mia

> >

> >