Guest guest Posted November 26, 2011 Report Share Posted November 26, 2011 A recent post (can't do this) made me think this would be a good time to have Principle #2 discussions. What I have come to discover is that 'hunger' is more broadly defined than we are aware of. Dieting identifies hunger as 'the enemy'. IE suggests that it is a friend which we have lost trust in. But what helped me understand hunger more was when I realized that my mind had added signals which it identified as 'hunger' yet were NOT a biological (body INternal) drive. Emotions unconsciously suppressed often get attempted to be acted out by way of eating - we 'stuff', 'chew on', 'comfort [food]', 'get even for' etc. I've come to believe that while diets focus on WHAT, WHEN & HOW (to eat), IE's focus on WHY we eat gets to the core better and faster. Plus doing that doesn't require items that keeps the diet industry FED. I do not always eat purely due to biological hunger, but when I don't I have come to not fault myself but rather to allow that to be something I can learn from and change - if and when I am ready. Katcha IEing since March 2007 > > Keep your body fed biologically with adequate energy and carbohydrates. Otherwise, you can trigger a primal drive to overeat. Once you reach the moment of excessive hunger, all intentions of moderate, conscious eating are fleeting and irrelevant. Learning to honor this first biological signal sets the stage for rebuilding trust with yourself and food. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 26, 2011 Report Share Posted November 26, 2011 A recent post (can't do this) made me think this would be a good time to have Principle #2 discussions. What I have come to discover is that 'hunger' is more broadly defined than we are aware of. Dieting identifies hunger as 'the enemy'. IE suggests that it is a friend which we have lost trust in. But what helped me understand hunger more was when I realized that my mind had added signals which it identified as 'hunger' yet were NOT a biological (body INternal) drive. Emotions unconsciously suppressed often get attempted to be acted out by way of eating - we 'stuff', 'chew on', 'comfort [food]', 'get even for' etc. I've come to believe that while diets focus on WHAT, WHEN & HOW (to eat), IE's focus on WHY we eat gets to the core better and faster. Plus doing that doesn't require items that keeps the diet industry FED. I do not always eat purely due to biological hunger, but when I don't I have come to not fault myself but rather to allow that to be something I can learn from and change - if and when I am ready. Katcha IEing since March 2007 > > Keep your body fed biologically with adequate energy and carbohydrates. Otherwise, you can trigger a primal drive to overeat. Once you reach the moment of excessive hunger, all intentions of moderate, conscious eating are fleeting and irrelevant. Learning to honor this first biological signal sets the stage for rebuilding trust with yourself and food. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 27, 2011 Report Share Posted November 27, 2011 This is exactly what nutritionist (who handed me an IE book) told me. I was amazed that she wanted me to eat more, not less, carbs and fat. No more do I take sugar-free yogurt and carrot sticks for lunch. On work days when I can't go and get something to eat if I get hungry, I make sure I have at least the suggested amount of carbs, fats, and proteins in my breakfast and lunch. Now that I'm eating MORE for breakfast and lunch and having a snack to boot, the urge to rush out of my workplace and devour a bag of chocolate or half a cake has vanished. I was reaching that point of triggering my primal drive to overeat every day, and thought I just had no willpower. What a relief! Sara > > Keep your body fed biologically with adequate energy and carbohydrates. Otherwise, you can trigger a primal drive to overeat. Once you reach the moment of excessive hunger, all intentions of moderate, conscious eating are fleeting and irrelevant. Learning to honor this first biological signal sets the stage for rebuilding trust with yourself and food. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 30, 2011 Report Share Posted November 30, 2011 Honoring my biological hunger is something I don't THINK I do all that well. In fact I pretty much let that suggestion 'slide' for the most part when I started IE. I guess I was smarter than I gave myself credit for then - because not pressuring myself to ONLY eat when 'hungry' most likely would have triggered my diet rebel big time. Probably still does in a less driven way. What ended up working for me - unplanned for I might add - is gifting myself time. Months seemed 'plenty' at first, but now years don't seem all that unreasonable when I remember that it took me decades to build up to the point of needed change (IE). I figured that if I just hung in, allowing IE to SEEP into my life - like water trickling down thru soil and rock - in time I would 'have' what I needed - IE for my life. Yesterday I noticed something that pleasantly surprised me - my double chin is almost all gone! When did that happen?!? I certainly wasn't looking for or working on it, but there is was(n't)! As fun and delightful as that was for me, it also occurred to me that it wasn't all that important either. My appearance has taken a back seat to how comfortable I am living this body that I have. Honoring hunger has been an important tool in that I'm sure. Katcha IEing since March 2007 > > Keep your body fed biologically with adequate energy and carbohydrates. Otherwise, you can trigger a primal drive to overeat. Once you reach the moment of excessive hunger, all intentions of moderate, conscious eating are fleeting and irrelevant. Learning to honor this first biological signal sets the stage for rebuilding trust with yourself and food. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 30, 2011 Report Share Posted November 30, 2011 Honoring my biological hunger is something I don't THINK I do all that well. In fact I pretty much let that suggestion 'slide' for the most part when I started IE. I guess I was smarter than I gave myself credit for then - because not pressuring myself to ONLY eat when 'hungry' most likely would have triggered my diet rebel big time. Probably still does in a less driven way. What ended up working for me - unplanned for I might add - is gifting myself time. Months seemed 'plenty' at first, but now years don't seem all that unreasonable when I remember that it took me decades to build up to the point of needed change (IE). I figured that if I just hung in, allowing IE to SEEP into my life - like water trickling down thru soil and rock - in time I would 'have' what I needed - IE for my life. Yesterday I noticed something that pleasantly surprised me - my double chin is almost all gone! When did that happen?!? I certainly wasn't looking for or working on it, but there is was(n't)! As fun and delightful as that was for me, it also occurred to me that it wasn't all that important either. My appearance has taken a back seat to how comfortable I am living this body that I have. Honoring hunger has been an important tool in that I'm sure. Katcha IEing since March 2007 > > Keep your body fed biologically with adequate energy and carbohydrates. Otherwise, you can trigger a primal drive to overeat. Once you reach the moment of excessive hunger, all intentions of moderate, conscious eating are fleeting and irrelevant. Learning to honor this first biological signal sets the stage for rebuilding trust with yourself and food. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 1, 2011 Report Share Posted December 1, 2011 Ellie, good observations. Maybe we can just observe without judgement and think " that's interesting " PERIOD and not try to figure it out. I like that idea because like you said, then we would be obsessing about food just like dieting. Sandy I was thinking about that yesterday, too. That if we want food, maybe we need food. There all kinds of ways dieters try to get around this: What do I need that's making me want food? Am I thirsty rather than hungry? Am I bored and need something to do? Am I upset with someone and need to talk to them? Do something with my hands, like knitting, so I can't eat. Gee, maybe if we want food, we need food. OTOH, if we're eating when also aware of being absolutely not hungry, as I was last night, there's clearly something going on that's out of line. I had eaten so much junk I felt a little sick, but was still prowling around looking for snacks. So the desire for food doesn't always indicate a need for food. It's a puzzle. But I'm thinking I may not want to spend too much time and energy trying to figure it out, because then I'll be obsessing about food just like when I'm dieting. I'm just going with, " Last night I had something going on with food. Today I don't. Move on. " Ellie To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2011 9:02 PM Subject: Re: Principle #2 - Honor Your Hunger A thought came to me as I was pondering honoring hunger today. Perhaps this is simply a natural extension of the first Principle - to dump diet mentality. Honoring hunger could just mean to recognize it for what it is - a signal from one's body to supply nourishment. When I release diet mentality I no longer fear, distrust or try to avoid hunger. I also do not turn hunger into a replacement 'expert' for focusing my life on (a la dieting). Making too much of hunger is as bad as ignoring it. Either way it gets put out of it real role - sustaining life. Katcha IEing since March 2007 > > > > Keep your body fed biologically with adequate energy and carbohydrates. Otherwise, you can trigger a primal drive to overeat. Once you reach the moment of excessive hunger, all intentions of moderate, conscious eating are fleeting and irrelevant. Learning to honor this first biological signal sets the stage for rebuilding trust with yourself and food. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 2, 2011 Report Share Posted December 2, 2011 I like those last few sentences; if I'm spending too much time thinking about what I ate and why, it's just like dieting. It happened, move on. Yep. Sandarah > > I was thinking about that yesterday, too. That if we want food, maybe we need food. There all kinds of ways dieters try to get around this: What do I need that's making me want food? Am I thirsty rather than hungry? Am I bored and need something to do? Am I upset with someone and need to talk to them? Do something with my hands, like knitting, so I can't eat. Gee, maybe if we want food, we need food. > > OTOH, if we're eating when also aware of being absolutely not hungry, as I was last night, there's clearly something going on that's out of line. I had eaten so much junk I felt a little sick, but was still prowling around looking for snacks. So the desire for food doesn't always indicate a need for food. It's a puzzle. But I'm thinking I may not want to spend too much time and energy trying to figure it out, because then I'll be obsessing about food just like when I'm dieting. I'm just going with, " Last night I had something going on with food. Today I don't. Move on. " > > > Ellie > > > > > >________________________________ > > > >To: IntuitiveEating_Support > >Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2011 9:02 PM > >Subject: Re: Principle #2 - Honor Your Hunger > > > > > >Â > >A thought came to me as I was pondering honoring hunger today. Perhaps this is simply a natural extension of the first Principle - to dump diet mentality. Honoring hunger could just mean to recognize it for what it is - a signal from one's body to supply nourishment. When I release diet mentality I no longer fear, distrust or try to avoid hunger. I also do not turn hunger into a replacement 'expert' for focusing my life on (a la dieting). Making too much of hunger is as bad as ignoring it. Either way it gets put out of it real role - sustaining life. > > > >Katcha > >IEing since March 2007 > > > >> > > >> > Keep your body fed biologically with adequate energy and carbohydrates. Otherwise, you can trigger a primal drive to overeat. Once you reach the moment of excessive hunger, all intentions of moderate, conscious eating are fleeting and irrelevant. Learning to honor this first biological signal sets the stage for rebuilding trust with yourself and food. > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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