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I scanned your email, so forgive me if I repeat something you addressed already.My recommendation would be to up YOUR vitamins, get on some bio-available ones (I like AOR advanced B, has a bunch of bio-available Bs) Your kids are likely deficient in the Bs.

MTHFR has been linked to down syndrome and autism... you may carry the gene that alters your metabolism of folate and that in turn messes up the metabolism of many things. Well, heck you probably already know about that!!!

If you cannot give up gluten entirely, cut way back. I consider myself GFCF but I do infract a couple times a week. When I eat some gluten, I " lube up " my intestines first, eat something greasy. This is just a theory and to be fair, I got it off DogtorJ.com's website and dude is a veterinarian. LOL But he suggests that perhaps the reason Italians are not a country of celiacs is because it is customary there to eat the fatty " antipasto " before the pasta. And then to follow the meal with the roto-rooter lettuce salad.

(I also use enzymes for infractions... butter and sour cream and cheese are the dairy I infract on... I am not a milk drinker and in our home we use Meyerburg (sp?) goat's milk) What is your craving bread-wise? Udi's makes a great bread, Kinnikinnick makes a great pizza dough, and Glutino makes a great pretzel. What's your downfall, I can likely suggest a GF replacement.

 

This will probably be a bit long but if you could bear with me, I could really use some advice!

A little background: My 5 year old DS is on the mild end of the autism spectrum. My 3 year old DD has Down syndrome. I also have a 7.5 month old DS. We have not vaccinated the baby at all and do not plan to.

Everything was going great up until about 3 months old. I am breastfeeding and he was doing great. No skin issues, no food issues, development on track in all areas. Sleeping well.

Then when he was 3 months old, I got appendicitis. I needed an emergency appendectomy and was on a lot of pain killers in the hospital as well as anesthesia for the surgery and IV antibiotics during the surgery. During this time, I was told by the anesthesiologist that I needed to " pump and dump " the milk for 24 hours from the surgery. I read some info on some breastfeeding sites that said that I didn't even need to " pump and dump " for that long but I wanted to be conservative and do what they said. I had some frozen breast milk which was fed to DS and then when we ran out, he got two bottles of formula...his 1st ever formula.

After the surgery, he started waking up at night more often. At first we blamed it on low milk supply due to the surgery. But then my supply was back up and he was still waking. We blamed it on teething and on growth spurts but the wakings continued to become more frequent.

By the end of December (around 5.5 months), he was literally waking up every 30-90 minutes at night and screaming hysterically. He would arch his back like he was in pain. I took him to the doctor twice to have him checked out. Everything checked out fine...ear were fine. No signs of what could be causing it. Doctor wanted us to try Zantac in case it was silent reflux. He showed no signs of reflux at all but we tried it just in case. It made no difference.

Then we thought maybe the antibiotics from surgery messed with his belly or maybe the formula triggered a food allergy/intolerance (even though he wasn't showing classic symptoms). So I eliminated dairy from my diet and we started giving him a probiotic every day. The screaming and arching subsided.

He now still gets up 2-3 times a night which is still more than before but I guess within the range of " normal " for a breastfed baby. I feel like he is no longer in pain when he wakes which is good.

The problem though is that I feel like he is " changed " not that the whole ordeal is passed. He is now 7.5 months old and is not sitting up unassisted. He will roll to get places but isn't crawling or pulling up (still a little early for that). The biggest concern though is that he doesn't seem as talkative as he was. He used to babble and would go back and forth with us if we talked to him. Now he seems to be a very serious baby. If you try to get him to laugh, it takes a lot of effort. He will just stare at you with a serious face. He doesn't really babble with consonant sounds much any more.

Physically we don't notice any concerning symptoms. Skin is fine. Bowels are normal.

We are at a loss as to what to do now and we are very concerned.

We have continued with the probiotic and I am still dairy free. I also take the following supplements myself (so he gets benefit through breast milk): multi, Metagenics Vessel Care, D3, mineral supplement, probiotic.

What would you do at this point? I have considered eliminating gluten as well but I honestly don't feel like I can do it. I am having a hard enough time maintaining my weight while breastfeeding as is and am concerned that if I restrict my diet further, it will be bad for my health and ultimately for the baby as well.

Sorry this is so long. Please give some advice if you can!

-- Toni------Mind like a steel trap...Rusty and illegal in 37 states.

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I am homozygous for the MTHFR C677T mutation so I already know that and that is

why I take the Metagenics Vessel Care (has the same folic acid as the Folapro

plus a bunch of other Bs). I am taking a good quality multi from Thorne.

I don't really crave any gluten in particular...it is just a part of my diet in

general. I crave milk/dairy and that has been very hard for me to give up but I

am doing it. I am also down to a size 2 though so like I said...can't lose much

more weight. My older DS and my DD are both gluten free but I just haven't been

able to do it myself and maintain my weight.

I can't take a fish oil supplement...took me 5 years to figure out that the fish

oil supplements were what were causing me to have dizzy spells and heart

palpitations (crazy, huh?). Is DS too young to supplement this directly?

>

> >

> >

> > This will probably be a bit long but if you could bear with me, I could

> > really use some advice!

> >

> > A little background: My 5 year old DS is on the mild end of the autism

> > spectrum. My 3 year old DD has Down syndrome. I also have a 7.5 month old

> > DS. We have not vaccinated the baby at all and do not plan to.

> >

> > Everything was going great up until about 3 months old. I am breastfeeding

> > and he was doing great. No skin issues, no food issues, development on track

> > in all areas. Sleeping well.

> >

> > Then when he was 3 months old, I got appendicitis. I needed an emergency

> > appendectomy and was on a lot of pain killers in the hospital as well as

> > anesthesia for the surgery and IV antibiotics during the surgery. During

> > this time, I was told by the anesthesiologist that I needed to " pump and

> > dump " the milk for 24 hours from the surgery. I read some info on some

> > breastfeeding sites that said that I didn't even need to " pump and dump " for

> > that long but I wanted to be conservative and do what they said. I had some

> > frozen breast milk which was fed to DS and then when we ran out, he got two

> > bottles of formula...his 1st ever formula.

> >

> > After the surgery, he started waking up at night more often. At first we

> > blamed it on low milk supply due to the surgery. But then my supply was back

> > up and he was still waking. We blamed it on teething and on growth spurts

> > but the wakings continued to become more frequent.

> >

> > By the end of December (around 5.5 months), he was literally waking up

> > every 30-90 minutes at night and screaming hysterically. He would arch his

> > back like he was in pain. I took him to the doctor twice to have him checked

> > out. Everything checked out fine...ear were fine. No signs of what could be

> > causing it. Doctor wanted us to try Zantac in case it was silent reflux. He

> > showed no signs of reflux at all but we tried it just in case. It made no

> > difference.

> >

> > Then we thought maybe the antibiotics from surgery messed with his belly or

> > maybe the formula triggered a food allergy/intolerance (even though he

> > wasn't showing classic symptoms). So I eliminated dairy from my diet and we

> > started giving him a probiotic every day. The screaming and arching

> > subsided.

> >

> > He now still gets up 2-3 times a night which is still more than before but

> > I guess within the range of " normal " for a breastfed baby. I feel like he is

> > no longer in pain when he wakes which is good.

> >

> > The problem though is that I feel like he is " changed " not that the whole

> > ordeal is passed. He is now 7.5 months old and is not sitting up unassisted.

> > He will roll to get places but isn't crawling or pulling up (still a little

> > early for that). The biggest concern though is that he doesn't seem as

> > talkative as he was. He used to babble and would go back and forth with us

> > if we talked to him. Now he seems to be a very serious baby. If you try to

> > get him to laugh, it takes a lot of effort. He will just stare at you with a

> > serious face. He doesn't really babble with consonant sounds much any more.

> >

> > Physically we don't notice any concerning symptoms. Skin is fine. Bowels

> > are normal.

> >

> > We are at a loss as to what to do now and we are very concerned.

> >

> > We have continued with the probiotic and I am still dairy free. I also take

> > the following supplements myself (so he gets benefit through breast milk):

> > multi, Metagenics Vessel Care, D3, mineral supplement, probiotic.

> >

> > What would you do at this point? I have considered eliminating gluten as

> > well but I honestly don't feel like I can do it. I am having a hard enough

> > time maintaining my weight while breastfeeding as is and am concerned that

> > if I restrict my diet further, it will be bad for my health and ultimately

> > for the baby as well.

> >

> > Sorry this is so long. Please give some advice if you can!

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

> --

> Toni

>

> ------

> Mind like a steel trap...

> Rusty and illegal in 37 states.

>

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For ice cream, I use coconut ice cream. Good fats in it, won't let you lose weight. LOL :-)I wouldn't know what dose to tell you to use with the CLO or fish oil for an infant.

 

I am homozygous for the MTHFR C677T mutation so I already know that and that is why I take the Metagenics Vessel Care (has the same folic acid as the Folapro plus a bunch of other Bs). I am taking a good quality multi from Thorne.

I don't really crave any gluten in particular...it is just a part of my diet in general. I crave milk/dairy and that has been very hard for me to give up but I am doing it. I am also down to a size 2 though so like I said...can't lose much more weight. My older DS and my DD are both gluten free but I just haven't been able to do it myself and maintain my weight.

I can't take a fish oil supplement...took me 5 years to figure out that the fish oil supplements were what were causing me to have dizzy spells and heart palpitations (crazy, huh?). Is DS too young to supplement this directly?

>

> >

> >

> > This will probably be a bit long but if you could bear with me, I could

> > really use some advice!

> >

> > A little background: My 5 year old DS is on the mild end of the autism

> > spectrum. My 3 year old DD has Down syndrome. I also have a 7.5 month old

> > DS. We have not vaccinated the baby at all and do not plan to.

> >

> > Everything was going great up until about 3 months old. I am breastfeeding

> > and he was doing great. No skin issues, no food issues, development on track

> > in all areas. Sleeping well.

> >

> > Then when he was 3 months old, I got appendicitis. I needed an emergency

> > appendectomy and was on a lot of pain killers in the hospital as well as

> > anesthesia for the surgery and IV antibiotics during the surgery. During

> > this time, I was told by the anesthesiologist that I needed to " pump and

> > dump " the milk for 24 hours from the surgery. I read some info on some

> > breastfeeding sites that said that I didn't even need to " pump and dump " for

> > that long but I wanted to be conservative and do what they said. I had some

> > frozen breast milk which was fed to DS and then when we ran out, he got two

> > bottles of formula...his 1st ever formula.

> >

> > After the surgery, he started waking up at night more often. At first we

> > blamed it on low milk supply due to the surgery. But then my supply was back

> > up and he was still waking. We blamed it on teething and on growth spurts

> > but the wakings continued to become more frequent.

> >

> > By the end of December (around 5.5 months), he was literally waking up

> > every 30-90 minutes at night and screaming hysterically. He would arch his

> > back like he was in pain. I took him to the doctor twice to have him checked

> > out. Everything checked out fine...ear were fine. No signs of what could be

> > causing it. Doctor wanted us to try Zantac in case it was silent reflux. He

> > showed no signs of reflux at all but we tried it just in case. It made no

> > difference.

> >

> > Then we thought maybe the antibiotics from surgery messed with his belly or

> > maybe the formula triggered a food allergy/intolerance (even though he

> > wasn't showing classic symptoms). So I eliminated dairy from my diet and we

> > started giving him a probiotic every day. The screaming and arching

> > subsided.

> >

> > He now still gets up 2-3 times a night which is still more than before but

> > I guess within the range of " normal " for a breastfed baby. I feel like he is

> > no longer in pain when he wakes which is good.

> >

> > The problem though is that I feel like he is " changed " not that the whole

> > ordeal is passed. He is now 7.5 months old and is not sitting up unassisted.

> > He will roll to get places but isn't crawling or pulling up (still a little

> > early for that). The biggest concern though is that he doesn't seem as

> > talkative as he was. He used to babble and would go back and forth with us

> > if we talked to him. Now he seems to be a very serious baby. If you try to

> > get him to laugh, it takes a lot of effort. He will just stare at you with a

> > serious face. He doesn't really babble with consonant sounds much any more.

> >

> > Physically we don't notice any concerning symptoms. Skin is fine. Bowels

> > are normal.

> >

> > We are at a loss as to what to do now and we are very concerned.

> >

> > We have continued with the probiotic and I am still dairy free. I also take

> > the following supplements myself (so he gets benefit through breast milk):

> > multi, Metagenics Vessel Care, D3, mineral supplement, probiotic.

> >

> > What would you do at this point? I have considered eliminating gluten as

> > well but I honestly don't feel like I can do it. I am having a hard enough

> > time maintaining my weight while breastfeeding as is and am concerned that

> > if I restrict my diet further, it will be bad for my health and ultimately

> > for the baby as well.

> >

> > Sorry this is so long. Please give some advice if you can!

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

> --

> Toni

>

> ------

> Mind like a steel trap...

> Rusty and illegal in 37 states.

>

-- Toni------Mind like a steel trap...Rusty and illegal in 37 states.

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I was reading your post and couldn't help but mentioning that there is a LOT of celiacs in Italy . The goverment actually subsidizes part of the food cost and requires all pharmacies that sell food to carry a 20% inventory of good for celiacs. The theory that that doctor posted is not accurateSent from my iPhone

I am homozygous for the MTHFR C677T mutation so I already know that and that is why I take the Metagenics Vessel Care (has the same folic acid as the Folapro plus a bunch of other Bs). I am taking a good quality multi from Thorne.

I don't really crave any gluten in particular...it is just a part of my diet in general. I crave milk/dairy and that has been very hard for me to give up but I am doing it. I am also down to a size 2 though so like I said...can't lose much more weight. My older DS and my DD are both gluten free but I just haven't been able to do it myself and maintain my weight.

I can't take a fish oil supplement...took me 5 years to figure out that the fish oil supplements were what were causing me to have dizzy spells and heart palpitations (crazy, huh?). Is DS too young to supplement this directly?

>

> >

> >

> > This will probably be a bit long but if you could bear with me, I could

> > really use some advice!

> >

> > A little background: My 5 year old DS is on the mild end of the autism

> > spectrum. My 3 year old DD has Down syndrome. I also have a 7.5 month old

> > DS. We have not vaccinated the baby at all and do not plan to.

> >

> > Everything was going great up until about 3 months old. I am breastfeeding

> > and he was doing great. No skin issues, no food issues, development on track

> > in all areas. Sleeping well.

> >

> > Then when he was 3 months old, I got appendicitis. I needed an emergency

> > appendectomy and was on a lot of pain killers in the hospital as well as

> > anesthesia for the surgery and IV antibiotics during the surgery. During

> > this time, I was told by the anesthesiologist that I needed to "pump and

> > dump" the milk for 24 hours from the surgery. I read some info on some

> > breastfeeding sites that said that I didn't even need to "pump and dump" for

> > that long but I wanted to be conservative and do what they said. I had some

> > frozen breast milk which was fed to DS and then when we ran out, he got two

> > bottles of formula...his 1st ever formula.

> >

> > After the surgery, he started waking up at night more often. At first we

> > blamed it on low milk supply due to the surgery. But then my supply was back

> > up and he was still waking. We blamed it on teething and on growth spurts

> > but the wakings continued to become more frequent.

> >

> > By the end of December (around 5.5 months), he was literally waking up

> > every 30-90 minutes at night and screaming hysterically. He would arch his

> > back like he was in pain. I took him to the doctor twice to have him checked

> > out. Everything checked out fine...ear were fine. No signs of what could be

> > causing it. Doctor wanted us to try Zantac in case it was silent reflux. He

> > showed no signs of reflux at all but we tried it just in case. It made no

> > difference.

> >

> > Then we thought maybe the antibiotics from surgery messed with his belly or

> > maybe the formula triggered a food allergy/intolerance (even though he

> > wasn't showing classic symptoms). So I eliminated dairy from my diet and we

> > started giving him a probiotic every day. The screaming and arching

> > subsided.

> >

> > He now still gets up 2-3 times a night which is still more than before but

> > I guess within the range of "normal" for a breastfed baby. I feel like he is

> > no longer in pain when he wakes which is good.

> >

> > The problem though is that I feel like he is "changed" not that the whole

> > ordeal is passed. He is now 7.5 months old and is not sitting up unassisted.

> > He will roll to get places but isn't crawling or pulling up (still a little

> > early for that). The biggest concern though is that he doesn't seem as

> > talkative as he was. He used to babble and would go back and forth with us

> > if we talked to him. Now he seems to be a very serious baby. If you try to

> > get him to laugh, it takes a lot of effort. He will just stare at you with a

> > serious face. He doesn't really babble with consonant sounds much any more.

> >

> > Physically we don't notice any concerning symptoms. Skin is fine. Bowels

> > are normal.

> >

> > We are at a loss as to what to do now and we are very concerned.

> >

> > We have continued with the probiotic and I am still dairy free. I also take

> > the following supplements myself (so he gets benefit through breast milk):

> > multi, Metagenics Vessel Care, D3, mineral supplement, probiotic.

> >

> > What would you do at this point? I have considered eliminating gluten as

> > well but I honestly don't feel like I can do it. I am having a hard enough

> > time maintaining my weight while breastfeeding as is and am concerned that

> > if I restrict my diet further, it will be bad for my health and ultimately

> > for the baby as well.

> >

> > Sorry this is so long. Please give some advice if you can!

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

> --

> Toni

>

> ------

> Mind like a steel trap...

> Rusty and illegal in 37 states.

>

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LOL doesn't surprise me!

 

I was reading your post and couldn't help but mentioning that there is a LOT of celiacs in Italy . The goverment actually subsidizes part of the food cost and requires all pharmacies that sell food to carry a 20% inventory of good for celiacs. The theory that that doctor posted is not accurate

Sent from my iPhone

 

I am homozygous for the MTHFR C677T mutation so I already know that and that is why I take the Metagenics Vessel Care (has the same folic acid as the Folapro plus a bunch of other Bs). I am taking a good quality multi from Thorne.

I don't really crave any gluten in particular...it is just a part of my diet in general. I crave milk/dairy and that has been very hard for me to give up but I am doing it. I am also down to a size 2 though so like I said...can't lose much more weight. My older DS and my DD are both gluten free but I just haven't been able to do it myself and maintain my weight.

I can't take a fish oil supplement...took me 5 years to figure out that the fish oil supplements were what were causing me to have dizzy spells and heart palpitations (crazy, huh?). Is DS too young to supplement this directly?

>

> >

> >

> > This will probably be a bit long but if you could bear with me, I could

> > really use some advice!

> >

> > A little background: My 5 year old DS is on the mild end of the autism

> > spectrum. My 3 year old DD has Down syndrome. I also have a 7.5 month old

> > DS. We have not vaccinated the baby at all and do not plan to.

> >

> > Everything was going great up until about 3 months old. I am breastfeeding

> > and he was doing great. No skin issues, no food issues, development on track

> > in all areas. Sleeping well.

> >

> > Then when he was 3 months old, I got appendicitis. I needed an emergency

> > appendectomy and was on a lot of pain killers in the hospital as well as

> > anesthesia for the surgery and IV antibiotics during the surgery. During

> > this time, I was told by the anesthesiologist that I needed to " pump and

> > dump " the milk for 24 hours from the surgery. I read some info on some

> > breastfeeding sites that said that I didn't even need to " pump and dump " for

> > that long but I wanted to be conservative and do what they said. I had some

> > frozen breast milk which was fed to DS and then when we ran out, he got two

> > bottles of formula...his 1st ever formula.

> >

> > After the surgery, he started waking up at night more often. At first we

> > blamed it on low milk supply due to the surgery. But then my supply was back

> > up and he was still waking. We blamed it on teething and on growth spurts

> > but the wakings continued to become more frequent.

> >

> > By the end of December (around 5.5 months), he was literally waking up

> > every 30-90 minutes at night and screaming hysterically. He would arch his

> > back like he was in pain. I took him to the doctor twice to have him checked

> > out. Everything checked out fine...ear were fine. No signs of what could be

> > causing it. Doctor wanted us to try Zantac in case it was silent reflux. He

> > showed no signs of reflux at all but we tried it just in case. It made no

> > difference.

> >

> > Then we thought maybe the antibiotics from surgery messed with his belly or

> > maybe the formula triggered a food allergy/intolerance (even though he

> > wasn't showing classic symptoms). So I eliminated dairy from my diet and we

> > started giving him a probiotic every day. The screaming and arching

> > subsided.

> >

> > He now still gets up 2-3 times a night which is still more than before but

> > I guess within the range of " normal " for a breastfed baby. I feel like he is

> > no longer in pain when he wakes which is good.

> >

> > The problem though is that I feel like he is " changed " not that the whole

> > ordeal is passed. He is now 7.5 months old and is not sitting up unassisted.

> > He will roll to get places but isn't crawling or pulling up (still a little

> > early for that). The biggest concern though is that he doesn't seem as

> > talkative as he was. He used to babble and would go back and forth with us

> > if we talked to him. Now he seems to be a very serious baby. If you try to

> > get him to laugh, it takes a lot of effort. He will just stare at you with a

> > serious face. He doesn't really babble with consonant sounds much any more.

> >

> > Physically we don't notice any concerning symptoms. Skin is fine. Bowels

> > are normal.

> >

> > We are at a loss as to what to do now and we are very concerned.

> >

> > We have continued with the probiotic and I am still dairy free. I also take

> > the following supplements myself (so he gets benefit through breast milk):

> > multi, Metagenics Vessel Care, D3, mineral supplement, probiotic.

> >

> > What would you do at this point? I have considered eliminating gluten as

> > well but I honestly don't feel like I can do it. I am having a hard enough

> > time maintaining my weight while breastfeeding as is and am concerned that

> > if I restrict my diet further, it will be bad for my health and ultimately

> > for the baby as well.

> >

> > Sorry this is so long. Please give some advice if you can!

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

> --

> Toni

>

> ------

> Mind like a steel trap...

> Rusty and illegal in 37 states.

>

-- Toni------Mind like a steel trap...Rusty and illegal in 37 states.

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I figure if I'm going to infract anyway (bad mommy) I would just take the advice and lube my gut with some oil HAH.Not advice I would recommend dfor children on GFCF... reserved for cheating mommy.

 

I was reading your post and couldn't help but mentioning that there is a LOT of celiacs in Italy . The goverment actually subsidizes part of the food cost and requires all pharmacies that sell food to carry a 20% inventory of good for celiacs. The theory that that doctor posted is not accurate

Sent from my iPhone

 

I am homozygous for the MTHFR C677T mutation so I already know that and that is why I take the Metagenics Vessel Care (has the same folic acid as the Folapro plus a bunch of other Bs). I am taking a good quality multi from Thorne.

I don't really crave any gluten in particular...it is just a part of my diet in general. I crave milk/dairy and that has been very hard for me to give up but I am doing it. I am also down to a size 2 though so like I said...can't lose much more weight. My older DS and my DD are both gluten free but I just haven't been able to do it myself and maintain my weight.

I can't take a fish oil supplement...took me 5 years to figure out that the fish oil supplements were what were causing me to have dizzy spells and heart palpitations (crazy, huh?). Is DS too young to supplement this directly?

>

> >

> >

> > This will probably be a bit long but if you could bear with me, I could

> > really use some advice!

> >

> > A little background: My 5 year old DS is on the mild end of the autism

> > spectrum. My 3 year old DD has Down syndrome. I also have a 7.5 month old

> > DS. We have not vaccinated the baby at all and do not plan to.

> >

> > Everything was going great up until about 3 months old. I am breastfeeding

> > and he was doing great. No skin issues, no food issues, development on track

> > in all areas. Sleeping well.

> >

> > Then when he was 3 months old, I got appendicitis. I needed an emergency

> > appendectomy and was on a lot of pain killers in the hospital as well as

> > anesthesia for the surgery and IV antibiotics during the surgery. During

> > this time, I was told by the anesthesiologist that I needed to " pump and

> > dump " the milk for 24 hours from the surgery. I read some info on some

> > breastfeeding sites that said that I didn't even need to " pump and dump " for

> > that long but I wanted to be conservative and do what they said. I had some

> > frozen breast milk which was fed to DS and then when we ran out, he got two

> > bottles of formula...his 1st ever formula.

> >

> > After the surgery, he started waking up at night more often. At first we

> > blamed it on low milk supply due to the surgery. But then my supply was back

> > up and he was still waking. We blamed it on teething and on growth spurts

> > but the wakings continued to become more frequent.

> >

> > By the end of December (around 5.5 months), he was literally waking up

> > every 30-90 minutes at night and screaming hysterically. He would arch his

> > back like he was in pain. I took him to the doctor twice to have him checked

> > out. Everything checked out fine...ear were fine. No signs of what could be

> > causing it. Doctor wanted us to try Zantac in case it was silent reflux. He

> > showed no signs of reflux at all but we tried it just in case. It made no

> > difference.

> >

> > Then we thought maybe the antibiotics from surgery messed with his belly or

> > maybe the formula triggered a food allergy/intolerance (even though he

> > wasn't showing classic symptoms). So I eliminated dairy from my diet and we

> > started giving him a probiotic every day. The screaming and arching

> > subsided.

> >

> > He now still gets up 2-3 times a night which is still more than before but

> > I guess within the range of " normal " for a breastfed baby. I feel like he is

> > no longer in pain when he wakes which is good.

> >

> > The problem though is that I feel like he is " changed " not that the whole

> > ordeal is passed. He is now 7.5 months old and is not sitting up unassisted.

> > He will roll to get places but isn't crawling or pulling up (still a little

> > early for that). The biggest concern though is that he doesn't seem as

> > talkative as he was. He used to babble and would go back and forth with us

> > if we talked to him. Now he seems to be a very serious baby. If you try to

> > get him to laugh, it takes a lot of effort. He will just stare at you with a

> > serious face. He doesn't really babble with consonant sounds much any more.

> >

> > Physically we don't notice any concerning symptoms. Skin is fine. Bowels

> > are normal.

> >

> > We are at a loss as to what to do now and we are very concerned.

> >

> > We have continued with the probiotic and I am still dairy free. I also take

> > the following supplements myself (so he gets benefit through breast milk):

> > multi, Metagenics Vessel Care, D3, mineral supplement, probiotic.

> >

> > What would you do at this point? I have considered eliminating gluten as

> > well but I honestly don't feel like I can do it. I am having a hard enough

> > time maintaining my weight while breastfeeding as is and am concerned that

> > if I restrict my diet further, it will be bad for my health and ultimately

> > for the baby as well.

> >

> > Sorry this is so long. Please give some advice if you can!

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

> --

> Toni

>

> ------

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> Rusty and illegal in 37 states.

>

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Were you on the supplements you mention before the surgery? If not, stop taking them and see if that helps. I would try to recreate your situation as close as possible to what it was before the surgery and your child was doing well. The antibiotic and anesthetic may have still been in your body when you started breastfeeding again. I would continue with a children's probiotic and D3 drops as well.  Unfortunately most formulas contain soy, genetically modified soy to boot. So it may be an allergic reaction that started this whole thing. A child's immune system is not mature until they are about 9 months old, so the development in the immune system may have been set off balance. Colostrum may help restore the immune balance.Good luck. I know how frustrating it is trying to figure out how to get back what is lost.This will probably be a bit long but if you could bear with me, I could really use some advice!A little background: My 5 year old DS is on the mild end of the autism spectrum. My 3 year old DD has Down syndrome. I also have a 7.5 month old DS. We have not vaccinated the baby at all and do not plan to.Everything was going great up until about 3 months old. I am breastfeeding and he was doing great. No skin issues, no food issues, development on track in all areas. Sleeping well.Then when he was 3 months old, I got appendicitis. I needed an emergency appendectomy and was on a lot of pain killers in the hospital as well as anesthesia for the surgery and IV antibiotics during the surgery. During this time, I was told by the anesthesiologist that I needed to "pump and dump" the milk for 24 hours from the surgery. I read some info on some breastfeeding sites that said that I didn't even need to "pump and dump" for that long but I wanted to be conservative and do what they said. I had some frozen breast milk which was fed to DS and then when we ran out, he got two bottles of formula...his 1st ever formula.After the surgery, he started waking up at night more often. At first we blamed it on low milk supply due to the surgery. But then my supply was back up and he was still waking. We blamed it on teething and on growth spurts but the wakings continued to become more frequent.By the end of December (around 5.5 months), he was literally waking up every 30-90 minutes at night and screaming hysterically. He would arch his back like he was in pain. I took him to the doctor twice to have him checked out. Everything checked out fine...ear were fine. No signs of what could be causing it. Doctor wanted us to try Zantac in case it was silent reflux. He showed no signs of reflux at all but we tried it just in case. It made no difference.Then we thought maybe the antibiotics from surgery messed with his belly or maybe the formula triggered a food allergy/intolerance (even though he wasn't showing classic symptoms). So I eliminated dairy from my diet and we started giving him a probiotic every day. The screaming and arching subsided.He now still gets up 2-3 times a night which is still more than before but I guess within the range of "normal" for a breastfed baby. I feel like he is no longer in pain when he wakes which is good.The problem though is that I feel like he is "changed" not that the whole ordeal is passed. He is now 7.5 months old and is not sitting up unassisted. He will roll to get places but isn't crawling or pulling up (still a little early for that). The biggest concern though is that he doesn't seem as talkative as he was. He used to babble and would go back and forth with us if we talked to him. Now he seems to be a very serious baby. If you try to get him to laugh, it takes a lot of effort. He will just stare at you with a serious face. He doesn't really babble with consonant sounds much any more.Physically we don't notice any concerning symptoms. Skin is fine. Bowels are normal.We are at a loss as to what to do now and we are very concerned.We have continued with the probiotic and I am still dairy free. I also take the following supplements myself (so he gets benefit through breast milk): multi, Metagenics Vessel Care, D3, mineral supplement, probiotic.What would you do at this point? I have considered eliminating gluten as well but I honestly don't feel like I can do it. I am having a hard enough time maintaining my weight while breastfeeding as is and am concerned that if I restrict my diet further, it will be bad for my health and ultimately for the baby as well.Sorry this is so long. Please give some advice if you can!

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Were you on the supplements you mention before the surgery? If not, stop taking them and see if that helps. I would try to recreate your situation as close as possible to what it was before the surgery and your child was doing well. The antibiotic and anesthetic may have still been in your body when you started breastfeeding again. I would continue with a children's probiotic and D3 drops as well.  Unfortunately most formulas contain soy, genetically modified soy to boot. So it may be an allergic reaction that started this whole thing. A child's immune system is not mature until they are about 9 months old, so the development in the immune system may have been set off balance. Colostrum may help restore the immune balance.Good luck. I know how frustrating it is trying to figure out how to get back what is lost.This will probably be a bit long but if you could bear with me, I could really use some advice!A little background: My 5 year old DS is on the mild end of the autism spectrum. My 3 year old DD has Down syndrome. I also have a 7.5 month old DS. We have not vaccinated the baby at all and do not plan to.Everything was going great up until about 3 months old. I am breastfeeding and he was doing great. No skin issues, no food issues, development on track in all areas. Sleeping well.Then when he was 3 months old, I got appendicitis. I needed an emergency appendectomy and was on a lot of pain killers in the hospital as well as anesthesia for the surgery and IV antibiotics during the surgery. During this time, I was told by the anesthesiologist that I needed to "pump and dump" the milk for 24 hours from the surgery. I read some info on some breastfeeding sites that said that I didn't even need to "pump and dump" for that long but I wanted to be conservative and do what they said. I had some frozen breast milk which was fed to DS and then when we ran out, he got two bottles of formula...his 1st ever formula.After the surgery, he started waking up at night more often. At first we blamed it on low milk supply due to the surgery. But then my supply was back up and he was still waking. We blamed it on teething and on growth spurts but the wakings continued to become more frequent.By the end of December (around 5.5 months), he was literally waking up every 30-90 minutes at night and screaming hysterically. He would arch his back like he was in pain. I took him to the doctor twice to have him checked out. Everything checked out fine...ear were fine. No signs of what could be causing it. Doctor wanted us to try Zantac in case it was silent reflux. He showed no signs of reflux at all but we tried it just in case. It made no difference.Then we thought maybe the antibiotics from surgery messed with his belly or maybe the formula triggered a food allergy/intolerance (even though he wasn't showing classic symptoms). So I eliminated dairy from my diet and we started giving him a probiotic every day. The screaming and arching subsided.He now still gets up 2-3 times a night which is still more than before but I guess within the range of "normal" for a breastfed baby. I feel like he is no longer in pain when he wakes which is good.The problem though is that I feel like he is "changed" not that the whole ordeal is passed. He is now 7.5 months old and is not sitting up unassisted. He will roll to get places but isn't crawling or pulling up (still a little early for that). The biggest concern though is that he doesn't seem as talkative as he was. He used to babble and would go back and forth with us if we talked to him. Now he seems to be a very serious baby. If you try to get him to laugh, it takes a lot of effort. He will just stare at you with a serious face. He doesn't really babble with consonant sounds much any more.Physically we don't notice any concerning symptoms. Skin is fine. Bowels are normal.We are at a loss as to what to do now and we are very concerned.We have continued with the probiotic and I am still dairy free. I also take the following supplements myself (so he gets benefit through breast milk): multi, Metagenics Vessel Care, D3, mineral supplement, probiotic.What would you do at this point? I have considered eliminating gluten as well but I honestly don't feel like I can do it. I am having a hard enough time maintaining my weight while breastfeeding as is and am concerned that if I restrict my diet further, it will be bad for my health and ultimately for the baby as well.Sorry this is so long. Please give some advice if you can!

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Were you on the supplements you mention before the surgery? If not, stop taking them and see if that helps. I would try to recreate your situation as close as possible to what it was before the surgery and your child was doing well. The antibiotic and anesthetic may have still been in your body when you started breastfeeding again. I would continue with a children's probiotic and D3 drops as well.  Unfortunately most formulas contain soy, genetically modified soy to boot. So it may be an allergic reaction that started this whole thing. A child's immune system is not mature until they are about 9 months old, so the development in the immune system may have been set off balance. Colostrum may help restore the immune balance.Good luck. I know how frustrating it is trying to figure out how to get back what is lost.This will probably be a bit long but if you could bear with me, I could really use some advice!A little background: My 5 year old DS is on the mild end of the autism spectrum. My 3 year old DD has Down syndrome. I also have a 7.5 month old DS. We have not vaccinated the baby at all and do not plan to.Everything was going great up until about 3 months old. I am breastfeeding and he was doing great. No skin issues, no food issues, development on track in all areas. Sleeping well.Then when he was 3 months old, I got appendicitis. I needed an emergency appendectomy and was on a lot of pain killers in the hospital as well as anesthesia for the surgery and IV antibiotics during the surgery. During this time, I was told by the anesthesiologist that I needed to "pump and dump" the milk for 24 hours from the surgery. I read some info on some breastfeeding sites that said that I didn't even need to "pump and dump" for that long but I wanted to be conservative and do what they said. I had some frozen breast milk which was fed to DS and then when we ran out, he got two bottles of formula...his 1st ever formula.After the surgery, he started waking up at night more often. At first we blamed it on low milk supply due to the surgery. But then my supply was back up and he was still waking. We blamed it on teething and on growth spurts but the wakings continued to become more frequent.By the end of December (around 5.5 months), he was literally waking up every 30-90 minutes at night and screaming hysterically. He would arch his back like he was in pain. I took him to the doctor twice to have him checked out. Everything checked out fine...ear were fine. No signs of what could be causing it. Doctor wanted us to try Zantac in case it was silent reflux. He showed no signs of reflux at all but we tried it just in case. It made no difference.Then we thought maybe the antibiotics from surgery messed with his belly or maybe the formula triggered a food allergy/intolerance (even though he wasn't showing classic symptoms). So I eliminated dairy from my diet and we started giving him a probiotic every day. The screaming and arching subsided.He now still gets up 2-3 times a night which is still more than before but I guess within the range of "normal" for a breastfed baby. I feel like he is no longer in pain when he wakes which is good.The problem though is that I feel like he is "changed" not that the whole ordeal is passed. He is now 7.5 months old and is not sitting up unassisted. He will roll to get places but isn't crawling or pulling up (still a little early for that). The biggest concern though is that he doesn't seem as talkative as he was. He used to babble and would go back and forth with us if we talked to him. Now he seems to be a very serious baby. If you try to get him to laugh, it takes a lot of effort. He will just stare at you with a serious face. He doesn't really babble with consonant sounds much any more.Physically we don't notice any concerning symptoms. Skin is fine. Bowels are normal.We are at a loss as to what to do now and we are very concerned.We have continued with the probiotic and I am still dairy free. I also take the following supplements myself (so he gets benefit through breast milk): multi, Metagenics Vessel Care, D3, mineral supplement, probiotic.What would you do at this point? I have considered eliminating gluten as well but I honestly don't feel like I can do it. I am having a hard enough time maintaining my weight while breastfeeding as is and am concerned that if I restrict my diet further, it will be bad for my health and ultimately for the baby as well.Sorry this is so long. Please give some advice if you can!

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I was already on all of these supplements so that hasn't changed. The only

thing that I had gotten lax on was the probiotic so I started trying to be more

consistent with that as I thought the antibiotic may have affected me too (even

though I didn't notice anything).

I have a D3 drop (Carlson's) for DS but haven't given is consistently lately. I

should get back to that as I was giving it before.

>

> > This will probably be a bit long but if you could bear with me, I

> > could really use some advice!

> >

> > A little background: My 5 year old DS is on the mild end of the

> > autism spectrum. My 3 year old DD has Down syndrome. I also have a

> > 7.5 month old DS. We have not vaccinated the baby at all and do not

> > plan to.

> >

> > Everything was going great up until about 3 months old. I am

> > breastfeeding and he was doing great. No skin issues, no food

> > issues, development on track in all areas. Sleeping well.

> >

> > Then when he was 3 months old, I got appendicitis. I needed an

> > emergency appendectomy and was on a lot of pain killers in the

> > hospital as well as anesthesia for the surgery and IV antibiotics

> > during the surgery. During this time, I was told by the

> > anesthesiologist that I needed to " pump and dump " the milk for 24

> > hours from the surgery. I read some info on some breastfeeding

> > sites that said that I didn't even need to " pump and dump " for that

> > long but I wanted to be conservative and do what they said. I had

> > some frozen breast milk which was fed to DS and then when we ran

> > out, he got two bottles of formula...his 1st ever formula.

> >

> > After the surgery, he started waking up at night more often. At

> > first we blamed it on low milk supply due to the surgery. But then

> > my supply was back up and he was still waking. We blamed it on

> > teething and on growth spurts but the wakings continued to become

> > more frequent.

> >

> > By the end of December (around 5.5 months), he was literally waking

> > up every 30-90 minutes at night and screaming hysterically. He

> > would arch his back like he was in pain. I took him to the doctor

> > twice to have him checked out. Everything checked out fine...ear

> > were fine. No signs of what could be causing it. Doctor wanted us

> > to try Zantac in case it was silent reflux. He showed no signs of

> > reflux at all but we tried it just in case. It made no difference.

> >

> > Then we thought maybe the antibiotics from surgery messed with his

> > belly or maybe the formula triggered a food allergy/intolerance

> > (even though he wasn't showing classic symptoms). So I eliminated

> > dairy from my diet and we started giving him a probiotic every day.

> > The screaming and arching subsided.

> >

> > He now still gets up 2-3 times a night which is still more than

> > before but I guess within the range of " normal " for a breastfed

> > baby. I feel like he is no longer in pain when he wakes which is good.

> >

> > The problem though is that I feel like he is " changed " not that the

> > whole ordeal is passed. He is now 7.5 months old and is not sitting

> > up unassisted. He will roll to get places but isn't crawling or

> > pulling up (still a little early for that). The biggest concern

> > though is that he doesn't seem as talkative as he was. He used to

> > babble and would go back and forth with us if we talked to him. Now

> > he seems to be a very serious baby. If you try to get him to laugh,

> > it takes a lot of effort. He will just stare at you with a serious

> > face. He doesn't really babble with consonant sounds much any more.

> >

> > Physically we don't notice any concerning symptoms. Skin is fine.

> > Bowels are normal.

> >

> > We are at a loss as to what to do now and we are very concerned.

> >

> > We have continued with the probiotic and I am still dairy free. I

> > also take the following supplements myself (so he gets benefit

> > through breast milk): multi, Metagenics Vessel Care, D3, mineral

> > supplement, probiotic.

> >

> > What would you do at this point? I have considered eliminating

> > gluten as well but I honestly don't feel like I can do it. I am

> > having a hard enough time maintaining my weight while breastfeeding

> > as is and am concerned that if I restrict my diet further, it will

> > be bad for my health and ultimately for the baby as well.

> >

> > Sorry this is so long. Please give some advice if you can!

> >

> >

> >

>

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I was already on all of these supplements so that hasn't changed. The only

thing that I had gotten lax on was the probiotic so I started trying to be more

consistent with that as I thought the antibiotic may have affected me too (even

though I didn't notice anything).

I have a D3 drop (Carlson's) for DS but haven't given is consistently lately. I

should get back to that as I was giving it before.

>

> > This will probably be a bit long but if you could bear with me, I

> > could really use some advice!

> >

> > A little background: My 5 year old DS is on the mild end of the

> > autism spectrum. My 3 year old DD has Down syndrome. I also have a

> > 7.5 month old DS. We have not vaccinated the baby at all and do not

> > plan to.

> >

> > Everything was going great up until about 3 months old. I am

> > breastfeeding and he was doing great. No skin issues, no food

> > issues, development on track in all areas. Sleeping well.

> >

> > Then when he was 3 months old, I got appendicitis. I needed an

> > emergency appendectomy and was on a lot of pain killers in the

> > hospital as well as anesthesia for the surgery and IV antibiotics

> > during the surgery. During this time, I was told by the

> > anesthesiologist that I needed to " pump and dump " the milk for 24

> > hours from the surgery. I read some info on some breastfeeding

> > sites that said that I didn't even need to " pump and dump " for that

> > long but I wanted to be conservative and do what they said. I had

> > some frozen breast milk which was fed to DS and then when we ran

> > out, he got two bottles of formula...his 1st ever formula.

> >

> > After the surgery, he started waking up at night more often. At

> > first we blamed it on low milk supply due to the surgery. But then

> > my supply was back up and he was still waking. We blamed it on

> > teething and on growth spurts but the wakings continued to become

> > more frequent.

> >

> > By the end of December (around 5.5 months), he was literally waking

> > up every 30-90 minutes at night and screaming hysterically. He

> > would arch his back like he was in pain. I took him to the doctor

> > twice to have him checked out. Everything checked out fine...ear

> > were fine. No signs of what could be causing it. Doctor wanted us

> > to try Zantac in case it was silent reflux. He showed no signs of

> > reflux at all but we tried it just in case. It made no difference.

> >

> > Then we thought maybe the antibiotics from surgery messed with his

> > belly or maybe the formula triggered a food allergy/intolerance

> > (even though he wasn't showing classic symptoms). So I eliminated

> > dairy from my diet and we started giving him a probiotic every day.

> > The screaming and arching subsided.

> >

> > He now still gets up 2-3 times a night which is still more than

> > before but I guess within the range of " normal " for a breastfed

> > baby. I feel like he is no longer in pain when he wakes which is good.

> >

> > The problem though is that I feel like he is " changed " not that the

> > whole ordeal is passed. He is now 7.5 months old and is not sitting

> > up unassisted. He will roll to get places but isn't crawling or

> > pulling up (still a little early for that). The biggest concern

> > though is that he doesn't seem as talkative as he was. He used to

> > babble and would go back and forth with us if we talked to him. Now

> > he seems to be a very serious baby. If you try to get him to laugh,

> > it takes a lot of effort. He will just stare at you with a serious

> > face. He doesn't really babble with consonant sounds much any more.

> >

> > Physically we don't notice any concerning symptoms. Skin is fine.

> > Bowels are normal.

> >

> > We are at a loss as to what to do now and we are very concerned.

> >

> > We have continued with the probiotic and I am still dairy free. I

> > also take the following supplements myself (so he gets benefit

> > through breast milk): multi, Metagenics Vessel Care, D3, mineral

> > supplement, probiotic.

> >

> > What would you do at this point? I have considered eliminating

> > gluten as well but I honestly don't feel like I can do it. I am

> > having a hard enough time maintaining my weight while breastfeeding

> > as is and am concerned that if I restrict my diet further, it will

> > be bad for my health and ultimately for the baby as well.

> >

> > Sorry this is so long. Please give some advice if you can!

> >

> >

> >

>

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I was already on all of these supplements so that hasn't changed. The only

thing that I had gotten lax on was the probiotic so I started trying to be more

consistent with that as I thought the antibiotic may have affected me too (even

though I didn't notice anything).

I have a D3 drop (Carlson's) for DS but haven't given is consistently lately. I

should get back to that as I was giving it before.

>

> > This will probably be a bit long but if you could bear with me, I

> > could really use some advice!

> >

> > A little background: My 5 year old DS is on the mild end of the

> > autism spectrum. My 3 year old DD has Down syndrome. I also have a

> > 7.5 month old DS. We have not vaccinated the baby at all and do not

> > plan to.

> >

> > Everything was going great up until about 3 months old. I am

> > breastfeeding and he was doing great. No skin issues, no food

> > issues, development on track in all areas. Sleeping well.

> >

> > Then when he was 3 months old, I got appendicitis. I needed an

> > emergency appendectomy and was on a lot of pain killers in the

> > hospital as well as anesthesia for the surgery and IV antibiotics

> > during the surgery. During this time, I was told by the

> > anesthesiologist that I needed to " pump and dump " the milk for 24

> > hours from the surgery. I read some info on some breastfeeding

> > sites that said that I didn't even need to " pump and dump " for that

> > long but I wanted to be conservative and do what they said. I had

> > some frozen breast milk which was fed to DS and then when we ran

> > out, he got two bottles of formula...his 1st ever formula.

> >

> > After the surgery, he started waking up at night more often. At

> > first we blamed it on low milk supply due to the surgery. But then

> > my supply was back up and he was still waking. We blamed it on

> > teething and on growth spurts but the wakings continued to become

> > more frequent.

> >

> > By the end of December (around 5.5 months), he was literally waking

> > up every 30-90 minutes at night and screaming hysterically. He

> > would arch his back like he was in pain. I took him to the doctor

> > twice to have him checked out. Everything checked out fine...ear

> > were fine. No signs of what could be causing it. Doctor wanted us

> > to try Zantac in case it was silent reflux. He showed no signs of

> > reflux at all but we tried it just in case. It made no difference.

> >

> > Then we thought maybe the antibiotics from surgery messed with his

> > belly or maybe the formula triggered a food allergy/intolerance

> > (even though he wasn't showing classic symptoms). So I eliminated

> > dairy from my diet and we started giving him a probiotic every day.

> > The screaming and arching subsided.

> >

> > He now still gets up 2-3 times a night which is still more than

> > before but I guess within the range of " normal " for a breastfed

> > baby. I feel like he is no longer in pain when he wakes which is good.

> >

> > The problem though is that I feel like he is " changed " not that the

> > whole ordeal is passed. He is now 7.5 months old and is not sitting

> > up unassisted. He will roll to get places but isn't crawling or

> > pulling up (still a little early for that). The biggest concern

> > though is that he doesn't seem as talkative as he was. He used to

> > babble and would go back and forth with us if we talked to him. Now

> > he seems to be a very serious baby. If you try to get him to laugh,

> > it takes a lot of effort. He will just stare at you with a serious

> > face. He doesn't really babble with consonant sounds much any more.

> >

> > Physically we don't notice any concerning symptoms. Skin is fine.

> > Bowels are normal.

> >

> > We are at a loss as to what to do now and we are very concerned.

> >

> > We have continued with the probiotic and I am still dairy free. I

> > also take the following supplements myself (so he gets benefit

> > through breast milk): multi, Metagenics Vessel Care, D3, mineral

> > supplement, probiotic.

> >

> > What would you do at this point? I have considered eliminating

> > gluten as well but I honestly don't feel like I can do it. I am

> > having a hard enough time maintaining my weight while breastfeeding

> > as is and am concerned that if I restrict my diet further, it will

> > be bad for my health and ultimately for the baby as well.

> >

> > Sorry this is so long. Please give some advice if you can!

> >

> >

> >

>

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Have you noticed a change in bowel movements? Is he constipated or have diarrhea?I was already on all of these supplements so that hasn't changed. The only thing that I had gotten lax on was the probiotic so I started trying to be more consistent with that as I thought the antibiotic may have affected me too (even though I didn't notice anything).I have a D3 drop (Carlson's) for DS but haven't given is consistently lately. I should get back to that as I was giving it before.> > > This will probably be a bit long but if you could bear with me, I > > could really use some advice!> >> > A little background: My 5 year old DS is on the mild end of the > > autism spectrum. My 3 year old DD has Down syndrome. I also have a > > 7.5 month old DS. We have not vaccinated the baby at all and do not > > plan to.> >> > Everything was going great up until about 3 months old. I am > > breastfeeding and he was doing great. No skin issues, no food > > issues, development on track in all areas. Sleeping well.> >> > Then when he was 3 months old, I got appendicitis. I needed an > > emergency appendectomy and was on a lot of pain killers in the > > hospital as well as anesthesia for the surgery and IV antibiotics > > during the surgery. During this time, I was told by the > > anesthesiologist that I needed to "pump and dump" the milk for 24 > > hours from the surgery. I read some info on some breastfeeding > > sites that said that I didn't even need to "pump and dump" for that > > long but I wanted to be conservative and do what they said. I had > > some frozen breast milk which was fed to DS and then when we ran > > out, he got two bottles of formula...his 1st ever formula.> >> > After the surgery, he started waking up at night more often. At > > first we blamed it on low milk supply due to the surgery. But then > > my supply was back up and he was still waking. We blamed it on > > teething and on growth spurts but the wakings continued to become > > more frequent.> >> > By the end of December (around 5.5 months), he was literally waking > > up every 30-90 minutes at night and screaming hysterically. He > > would arch his back like he was in pain. I took him to the doctor > > twice to have him checked out. Everything checked out fine...ear > > were fine. No signs of what could be causing it. Doctor wanted us > > to try Zantac in case it was silent reflux. He showed no signs of > > reflux at all but we tried it just in case. It made no difference.> >> > Then we thought maybe the antibiotics from surgery messed with his > > belly or maybe the formula triggered a food allergy/intolerance > > (even though he wasn't showing classic symptoms). So I eliminated > > dairy from my diet and we started giving him a probiotic every day. > > The screaming and arching subsided.> >> > He now still gets up 2-3 times a night which is still more than > > before but I guess within the range of "normal" for a breastfed > > baby. I feel like he is no longer in pain when he wakes which is good.> >> > The problem though is that I feel like he is "changed" not that the > > whole ordeal is passed. He is now 7.5 months old and is not sitting > > up unassisted. He will roll to get places but isn't crawling or > > pulling up (still a little early for that). The biggest concern > > though is that he doesn't seem as talkative as he was. He used to > > babble and would go back and forth with us if we talked to him. Now > > he seems to be a very serious baby. If you try to get him to laugh, > > it takes a lot of effort. He will just stare at you with a serious > > face. He doesn't really babble with consonant sounds much any more.> >> > Physically we don't notice any concerning symptoms. Skin is fine. > > Bowels are normal.> >> > We are at a loss as to what to do now and we are very concerned.> >> > We have continued with the probiotic and I am still dairy free. I > > also take the following supplements myself (so he gets benefit > > through breast milk): multi, Metagenics Vessel Care, D3, mineral > > supplement, probiotic.> >> > What would you do at this point? I have considered eliminating > > gluten as well but I honestly don't feel like I can do it. I am > > having a hard enough time maintaining my weight while breastfeeding > > as is and am concerned that if I restrict my diet further, it will > > be bad for my health and ultimately for the baby as well.> >> > Sorry this is so long. Please give some advice if you can!> >> >> >>

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Find a good DAN! doc for him. Get him in early intervention to get started working on the delayed motor skills. Pamela From: mb12 valtrex [mailto:mb12 valtrex ] On Behalf Of ohmommyto2Sent: Sunday, February 27, 2011 11:55 AMTo: mb12 valtrex Subject: Having concerns about my 7 month old. Advice needed please! This will probably be a bit long but if you could bear with me, I could really use some advice!A little background: My 5 year old DS is on the mild end of the autism spectrum. My 3 year old DD has Down syndrome. I also have a 7.5 month old DS. We have not vaccinated the baby at all and do not plan to.Everything was going great up until about 3 months old. I am breastfeeding and he was doing great. No skin issues, no food issues, development on track in all areas. Sleeping well.Then when he was 3 months old, I got appendicitis. I needed an emergency appendectomy and was on a lot of pain killers in the hospital as well as anesthesia for the surgery and IV antibiotics during the surgery. During this time, I was told by the anesthesiologist that I needed to " pump and dump " the milk for 24 hours from the surgery. I read some info on some breastfeeding sites that said that I didn't even need to " pump and dump " for that long but I wanted to be conservative and do what they said. I had some frozen breast milk which was fed to DS and then when we ran out, he got two bottles of formula...his 1st ever formula.After the surgery, he started waking up at night more often. At first we blamed it on low milk supply due to the surgery. But then my supply was back up and he was still waking. We blamed it on teething and on growth spurts but the wakings continued to become more frequent.By the end of December (around 5.5 months), he was literally waking up every 30-90 minutes at night and screaming hysterically. He would arch his back like he was in pain. I took him to the doctor twice to have him checked out. Everything checked out fine...ear were fine. No signs of what could be causing it. Doctor wanted us to try Zantac in case it was silent reflux. He showed no signs of reflux at all but we tried it just in case. It made no difference.Then we thought maybe the antibiotics from surgery messed with his belly or maybe the formula triggered a food allergy/intolerance (even though he wasn't showing classic symptoms). So I eliminated dairy from my diet and we started giving him a probiotic every day. The screaming and arching subsided.He now still gets up 2-3 times a night which is still more than before but I guess within the range of " normal " for a breastfed baby. I feel like he is no longer in pain when he wakes which is good.The problem though is that I feel like he is " changed " not that the whole ordeal is passed. He is now 7.5 months old and is not sitting up unassisted. He will roll to get places but isn't crawling or pulling up (still a little early for that). The biggest concern though is that he doesn't seem as talkative as he was. He used to babble and would go back and forth with us if we talked to him. Now he seems to be a very serious baby. If you try to get him to laugh, it takes a lot of effort. He will just stare at you with a serious face. He doesn't really babble with consonant sounds much any more.Physically we don't notice any concerning symptoms. Skin is fine. Bowels are normal.We are at a loss as to what to do now and we are very concerned.We have continued with the probiotic and I am still dairy free. I also take the following supplements myself (so he gets benefit through breast milk): multi, Metagenics Vessel Care, D3, mineral supplement, probiotic.What would you do at this point? I have considered eliminating gluten as well but I honestly don't feel like I can do it. I am having a hard enough time maintaining my weight while breastfeeding as is and am concerned that if I restrict my diet further, it will be bad for my health and ultimately for the baby as well.Sorry this is so long. Please give some advice if you can!

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He was pooping once every few days which they say is normal for exclusive

breastfeeding. It wasn't hard or difficult to pass so don't think he was

constipated. Since introducing solids, he is going 1-2 times a day. Normal

stools. We have only introduced a few foods...rice cereal, avocado, squash,

sweet potatoes, peas, carrots.

> > >

> > > > This will probably be a bit long but if you could bear with me, I

> > > > could really use some advice!

> > > >

> > > > A little background: My 5 year old DS is on the mild end of the

> > > > autism spectrum. My 3 year old DD has Down syndrome. I also have a

> > > > 7.5 month old DS. We have not vaccinated the baby at all and do

> > not

> > > > plan to.

> > > >

> > > > Everything was going great up until about 3 months old. I am

> > > > breastfeeding and he was doing great. No skin issues, no food

> > > > issues, development on track in all areas. Sleeping well.

> > > >

> > > > Then when he was 3 months old, I got appendicitis. I needed an

> > > > emergency appendectomy and was on a lot of pain killers in the

> > > > hospital as well as anesthesia for the surgery and IV antibiotics

> > > > during the surgery. During this time, I was told by the

> > > > anesthesiologist that I needed to " pump and dump " the milk for 24

> > > > hours from the surgery. I read some info on some breastfeeding

> > > > sites that said that I didn't even need to " pump and dump " for

> > that

> > > > long but I wanted to be conservative and do what they said. I had

> > > > some frozen breast milk which was fed to DS and then when we ran

> > > > out, he got two bottles of formula...his 1st ever formula.

> > > >

> > > > After the surgery, he started waking up at night more often. At

> > > > first we blamed it on low milk supply due to the surgery. But then

> > > > my supply was back up and he was still waking. We blamed it on

> > > > teething and on growth spurts but the wakings continued to become

> > > > more frequent.

> > > >

> > > > By the end of December (around 5.5 months), he was literally

> > waking

> > > > up every 30-90 minutes at night and screaming hysterically. He

> > > > would arch his back like he was in pain. I took him to the doctor

> > > > twice to have him checked out. Everything checked out fine...ear

> > > > were fine. No signs of what could be causing it. Doctor wanted us

> > > > to try Zantac in case it was silent reflux. He showed no signs of

> > > > reflux at all but we tried it just in case. It made no difference.

> > > >

> > > > Then we thought maybe the antibiotics from surgery messed with his

> > > > belly or maybe the formula triggered a food allergy/intolerance

> > > > (even though he wasn't showing classic symptoms). So I eliminated

> > > > dairy from my diet and we started giving him a probiotic every

> > day.

> > > > The screaming and arching subsided.

> > > >

> > > > He now still gets up 2-3 times a night which is still more than

> > > > before but I guess within the range of " normal " for a breastfed

> > > > baby. I feel like he is no longer in pain when he wakes which

> > is good.

> > > >

> > > > The problem though is that I feel like he is " changed " not that

> > the

> > > > whole ordeal is passed. He is now 7.5 months old and is not

> > sitting

> > > > up unassisted. He will roll to get places but isn't crawling or

> > > > pulling up (still a little early for that). The biggest concern

> > > > though is that he doesn't seem as talkative as he was. He used to

> > > > babble and would go back and forth with us if we talked to him.

> > Now

> > > > he seems to be a very serious baby. If you try to get him to

> > laugh,

> > > > it takes a lot of effort. He will just stare at you with a serious

> > > > face. He doesn't really babble with consonant sounds much any

> > more.

> > > >

> > > > Physically we don't notice any concerning symptoms. Skin is fine.

> > > > Bowels are normal.

> > > >

> > > > We are at a loss as to what to do now and we are very concerned.

> > > >

> > > > We have continued with the probiotic and I am still dairy free. I

> > > > also take the following supplements myself (so he gets benefit

> > > > through breast milk): multi, Metagenics Vessel Care, D3, mineral

> > > > supplement, probiotic.

> > > >

> > > > What would you do at this point? I have considered eliminating

> > > > gluten as well but I honestly don't feel like I can do it. I am

> > > > having a hard enough time maintaining my weight while

> > breastfeeding

> > > > as is and am concerned that if I restrict my diet further, it will

> > > > be bad for my health and ultimately for the baby as well.

> > > >

> > > > Sorry this is so long. Please give some advice if you can!

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

>

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He was pooping once every few days which they say is normal for exclusive

breastfeeding. It wasn't hard or difficult to pass so don't think he was

constipated. Since introducing solids, he is going 1-2 times a day. Normal

stools. We have only introduced a few foods...rice cereal, avocado, squash,

sweet potatoes, peas, carrots.

> > >

> > > > This will probably be a bit long but if you could bear with me, I

> > > > could really use some advice!

> > > >

> > > > A little background: My 5 year old DS is on the mild end of the

> > > > autism spectrum. My 3 year old DD has Down syndrome. I also have a

> > > > 7.5 month old DS. We have not vaccinated the baby at all and do

> > not

> > > > plan to.

> > > >

> > > > Everything was going great up until about 3 months old. I am

> > > > breastfeeding and he was doing great. No skin issues, no food

> > > > issues, development on track in all areas. Sleeping well.

> > > >

> > > > Then when he was 3 months old, I got appendicitis. I needed an

> > > > emergency appendectomy and was on a lot of pain killers in the

> > > > hospital as well as anesthesia for the surgery and IV antibiotics

> > > > during the surgery. During this time, I was told by the

> > > > anesthesiologist that I needed to " pump and dump " the milk for 24

> > > > hours from the surgery. I read some info on some breastfeeding

> > > > sites that said that I didn't even need to " pump and dump " for

> > that

> > > > long but I wanted to be conservative and do what they said. I had

> > > > some frozen breast milk which was fed to DS and then when we ran

> > > > out, he got two bottles of formula...his 1st ever formula.

> > > >

> > > > After the surgery, he started waking up at night more often. At

> > > > first we blamed it on low milk supply due to the surgery. But then

> > > > my supply was back up and he was still waking. We blamed it on

> > > > teething and on growth spurts but the wakings continued to become

> > > > more frequent.

> > > >

> > > > By the end of December (around 5.5 months), he was literally

> > waking

> > > > up every 30-90 minutes at night and screaming hysterically. He

> > > > would arch his back like he was in pain. I took him to the doctor

> > > > twice to have him checked out. Everything checked out fine...ear

> > > > were fine. No signs of what could be causing it. Doctor wanted us

> > > > to try Zantac in case it was silent reflux. He showed no signs of

> > > > reflux at all but we tried it just in case. It made no difference.

> > > >

> > > > Then we thought maybe the antibiotics from surgery messed with his

> > > > belly or maybe the formula triggered a food allergy/intolerance

> > > > (even though he wasn't showing classic symptoms). So I eliminated

> > > > dairy from my diet and we started giving him a probiotic every

> > day.

> > > > The screaming and arching subsided.

> > > >

> > > > He now still gets up 2-3 times a night which is still more than

> > > > before but I guess within the range of " normal " for a breastfed

> > > > baby. I feel like he is no longer in pain when he wakes which

> > is good.

> > > >

> > > > The problem though is that I feel like he is " changed " not that

> > the

> > > > whole ordeal is passed. He is now 7.5 months old and is not

> > sitting

> > > > up unassisted. He will roll to get places but isn't crawling or

> > > > pulling up (still a little early for that). The biggest concern

> > > > though is that he doesn't seem as talkative as he was. He used to

> > > > babble and would go back and forth with us if we talked to him.

> > Now

> > > > he seems to be a very serious baby. If you try to get him to

> > laugh,

> > > > it takes a lot of effort. He will just stare at you with a serious

> > > > face. He doesn't really babble with consonant sounds much any

> > more.

> > > >

> > > > Physically we don't notice any concerning symptoms. Skin is fine.

> > > > Bowels are normal.

> > > >

> > > > We are at a loss as to what to do now and we are very concerned.

> > > >

> > > > We have continued with the probiotic and I am still dairy free. I

> > > > also take the following supplements myself (so he gets benefit

> > > > through breast milk): multi, Metagenics Vessel Care, D3, mineral

> > > > supplement, probiotic.

> > > >

> > > > What would you do at this point? I have considered eliminating

> > > > gluten as well but I honestly don't feel like I can do it. I am

> > > > having a hard enough time maintaining my weight while

> > breastfeeding

> > > > as is and am concerned that if I restrict my diet further, it will

> > > > be bad for my health and ultimately for the baby as well.

> > > >

> > > > Sorry this is so long. Please give some advice if you can!

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

>

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He was pooping once every few days which they say is normal for exclusive

breastfeeding. It wasn't hard or difficult to pass so don't think he was

constipated. Since introducing solids, he is going 1-2 times a day. Normal

stools. We have only introduced a few foods...rice cereal, avocado, squash,

sweet potatoes, peas, carrots.

> > >

> > > > This will probably be a bit long but if you could bear with me, I

> > > > could really use some advice!

> > > >

> > > > A little background: My 5 year old DS is on the mild end of the

> > > > autism spectrum. My 3 year old DD has Down syndrome. I also have a

> > > > 7.5 month old DS. We have not vaccinated the baby at all and do

> > not

> > > > plan to.

> > > >

> > > > Everything was going great up until about 3 months old. I am

> > > > breastfeeding and he was doing great. No skin issues, no food

> > > > issues, development on track in all areas. Sleeping well.

> > > >

> > > > Then when he was 3 months old, I got appendicitis. I needed an

> > > > emergency appendectomy and was on a lot of pain killers in the

> > > > hospital as well as anesthesia for the surgery and IV antibiotics

> > > > during the surgery. During this time, I was told by the

> > > > anesthesiologist that I needed to " pump and dump " the milk for 24

> > > > hours from the surgery. I read some info on some breastfeeding

> > > > sites that said that I didn't even need to " pump and dump " for

> > that

> > > > long but I wanted to be conservative and do what they said. I had

> > > > some frozen breast milk which was fed to DS and then when we ran

> > > > out, he got two bottles of formula...his 1st ever formula.

> > > >

> > > > After the surgery, he started waking up at night more often. At

> > > > first we blamed it on low milk supply due to the surgery. But then

> > > > my supply was back up and he was still waking. We blamed it on

> > > > teething and on growth spurts but the wakings continued to become

> > > > more frequent.

> > > >

> > > > By the end of December (around 5.5 months), he was literally

> > waking

> > > > up every 30-90 minutes at night and screaming hysterically. He

> > > > would arch his back like he was in pain. I took him to the doctor

> > > > twice to have him checked out. Everything checked out fine...ear

> > > > were fine. No signs of what could be causing it. Doctor wanted us

> > > > to try Zantac in case it was silent reflux. He showed no signs of

> > > > reflux at all but we tried it just in case. It made no difference.

> > > >

> > > > Then we thought maybe the antibiotics from surgery messed with his

> > > > belly or maybe the formula triggered a food allergy/intolerance

> > > > (even though he wasn't showing classic symptoms). So I eliminated

> > > > dairy from my diet and we started giving him a probiotic every

> > day.

> > > > The screaming and arching subsided.

> > > >

> > > > He now still gets up 2-3 times a night which is still more than

> > > > before but I guess within the range of " normal " for a breastfed

> > > > baby. I feel like he is no longer in pain when he wakes which

> > is good.

> > > >

> > > > The problem though is that I feel like he is " changed " not that

> > the

> > > > whole ordeal is passed. He is now 7.5 months old and is not

> > sitting

> > > > up unassisted. He will roll to get places but isn't crawling or

> > > > pulling up (still a little early for that). The biggest concern

> > > > though is that he doesn't seem as talkative as he was. He used to

> > > > babble and would go back and forth with us if we talked to him.

> > Now

> > > > he seems to be a very serious baby. If you try to get him to

> > laugh,

> > > > it takes a lot of effort. He will just stare at you with a serious

> > > > face. He doesn't really babble with consonant sounds much any

> > more.

> > > >

> > > > Physically we don't notice any concerning symptoms. Skin is fine.

> > > > Bowels are normal.

> > > >

> > > > We are at a loss as to what to do now and we are very concerned.

> > > >

> > > > We have continued with the probiotic and I am still dairy free. I

> > > > also take the following supplements myself (so he gets benefit

> > > > through breast milk): multi, Metagenics Vessel Care, D3, mineral

> > > > supplement, probiotic.

> > > >

> > > > What would you do at this point? I have considered eliminating

> > > > gluten as well but I honestly don't feel like I can do it. I am

> > > > having a hard enough time maintaining my weight while

> > breastfeeding

> > > > as is and am concerned that if I restrict my diet further, it will

> > > > be bad for my health and ultimately for the baby as well.

> > > >

> > > > Sorry this is so long. Please give some advice if you can!

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

>

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Hi. I have a 7 month old too. I understand your concerns, as I am right there

with you. Our (third) child is not vaccinated, and will never be as long as I

have a voice about it.

If you had surgery - you might be B12 depleted, and so might he be too. You

really should start supplementing, and get your levels checked. It could

account for the excessive night wakings. My child too, was a great sleeper

right from the start, I had dental surgery (nitrous oxide) and all the sudden

Sam stopped gaining weight like he had been, and he was up all the time -- from

a child that slept literally thru the night. Once I started supplementing him

and myself, he started sleeping thru the night again. He's almost to a 'great'

baby again. (I also take dessicated liver pills for myself, which is high in

iron, and cobalmin (b12)) -- There is a book you should read (sorry to be

pushy...) " Could it be B12? An Epidemic of a Misdiagnosis. " by Sally M Pacholok,

RN and J Stuart, DO. Lots of GREAT info in that.

Sitting slouched - I found is a lack of nutrition. If you are breastfeeding (as

I am too) - make sure you are still taking your prenatals (I take New Chapter

Organics) and if your pee (sorry about the visual) is like a glow stick - you

aren't absorbing your B vitamins, use a digestive enzyme to help. (when you

take your Prenatals, take a few digestive enzymes - I take Klair Labs vital-zyme

chewable) I took 'double' my prenatals for a couple of months after my surgery

and when I saw he was sitting up posture perfect, I went back to just the daily

dose...My Jimmy and Maddie were 'slouchers' -- and once I got their diets right,

that went away quickly. Sam's posture is perfect.

Sam is 8 months on March 9th. He sits, can almost get to sitting position by

himself, climbs, is starting to pull up on things (and slam his face into

everything), crawling (still on tummy - but he is super fast) but does that

thing on all fours and rocks like crazy. Babbles constantly, laughs, follows

you with his eyes, can see really far away, can self soothe to bed (put him in

drowsy, and he can put himself to sleep). He can eat himself, and insists on

holding bottle himself lately. (I only put juicer juice in bottle) He breast

feeds about 6-8 times in a 24 hour period.

** during the time after my dental surgery, it was more like 14 times -- which

made me think he wasn't getting what he needed in terms of nutrients.

I give Sam vitamin D3 drops (and I get him in the sun as much as possible), he

gets 10 B12 drops (methyl), Klaire Labs Infant probiotics

Consider juicing for your child. I juice for Sam. He takes 2-3 4oz bottles a

day. Be sure to check his diaper often as the poop does NOT stink..and he could

get a rash from being too wet. He also takes food, but, who knows how much

nutrition he gets from the dead baby food that they serve in the jars...juicing

is FULL of nutrition. I mean FULL -- and it would seem our babies need it. I

do make my child pear sauce, but lately, I just puree what we are having (gotta

love the third child to put things into perspective for ya)...he ate broccoli,

pasta (rice), and eggs for dinner.

Consider going gluten free. I know you said it's not an option. But gluten

makes a 'glue' all over your intestines that doesn't allow nutrients to get into

the blood stream. You may be giving him 'calories' but not enough nutrition,

because your pipes are, well, got slime and sludge which is clogging up the

uptake. There are lots of great breads out there now, even bagels, and the rice

noodles we use (Tinkyada) you cannot tell the difference (if you cook them

correctly). And honestly, it's for such a short while...you might even see a

huge difference in your energy levels...I know I have.

Also, you should be eating 5-6 times a day, small meals. Snacking and grazing.

MOOOO...that is what I say to my husband when he says " you're eating again? " --

YES, I am hungry..the little guy just took about 300 calories in food and my

stomach is growling. I made pancakes for everyone at 4pm this afternoon. Then

my son who finally got back his appetite was like " do we have bacon? " -- sure,

why not.

Meat and vegetables - and a lot of them. I eat a salad everyday. nas

French dressing is wonderful, even better on a taco salad...I've actually lost a

few pant sizes this time. All the other times, I have a difficult time with

'baby weight.' If you are having a hard time keeping weight, protein. Steaks

(lean!), chicken, eggs are good sources of protein. And you should be making

yourself a protein shake daily. (Smoothie type stuff)

AND RELAX! It's hard to be a good Mom much less a great one, when you feel

stressed out...tell the husband to get out the lotion for a foot rub and a back

rub...Take an epsom salt bath (they are wonderful!) Take extra long hot showers

for yourself. It's important. Take care of you, so that you can care for your

children.

hugs...Parenting is tough. Even tougher when there isn't a clear sign that says

" GO THIS WAY! "

hang in there...

seriously though. B12.

laura :)

>

> This will probably be a bit long but if you could bear with me, I could really

use some advice!

>

> A little background: My 5 year old DS is on the mild end of the autism

spectrum. My 3 year old DD has Down syndrome. I also have a 7.5 month old DS.

We have not vaccinated the baby at all and do not plan to.

>

> Everything was going great up until about 3 months old. I am breastfeeding

and he was doing great. No skin issues, no food issues, development on track in

all areas. Sleeping well.

>

> Then when he was 3 months old, I got appendicitis. I needed an emergency

appendectomy and was on a lot of pain killers in the hospital as well as

anesthesia for the surgery and IV antibiotics during the surgery. During this

time, I was told by the anesthesiologist that I needed to " pump and dump " the

milk for 24 hours from the surgery. I read some info on some breastfeeding

sites that said that I didn't even need to " pump and dump " for that long but I

wanted to be conservative and do what they said. I had some frozen breast milk

which was fed to DS and then when we ran out, he got two bottles of

formula...his 1st ever formula.

>

> After the surgery, he started waking up at night more often. At first we

blamed it on low milk supply due to the surgery. But then my supply was back up

and he was still waking. We blamed it on teething and on growth spurts but the

wakings continued to become more frequent.

>

> By the end of December (around 5.5 months), he was literally waking up every

30-90 minutes at night and screaming hysterically. He would arch his back like

he was in pain. I took him to the doctor twice to have him checked out.

Everything checked out fine...ear were fine. No signs of what could be causing

it. Doctor wanted us to try Zantac in case it was silent reflux. He showed no

signs of reflux at all but we tried it just in case. It made no difference.

>

> Then we thought maybe the antibiotics from surgery messed with his belly or

maybe the formula triggered a food allergy/intolerance (even though he wasn't

showing classic symptoms). So I eliminated dairy from my diet and we started

giving him a probiotic every day. The screaming and arching subsided.

>

> He now still gets up 2-3 times a night which is still more than before but I

guess within the range of " normal " for a breastfed baby. I feel like he is no

longer in pain when he wakes which is good.

>

> The problem though is that I feel like he is " changed " not that the whole

ordeal is passed. He is now 7.5 months old and is not sitting up unassisted.

He will roll to get places but isn't crawling or pulling up (still a little

early for that). The biggest concern though is that he doesn't seem as

talkative as he was. He used to babble and would go back and forth with us if

we talked to him. Now he seems to be a very serious baby. If you try to get

him to laugh, it takes a lot of effort. He will just stare at you with a

serious face. He doesn't really babble with consonant sounds much any more.

>

> Physically we don't notice any concerning symptoms. Skin is fine. Bowels are

normal.

>

> We are at a loss as to what to do now and we are very concerned.

>

> We have continued with the probiotic and I am still dairy free. I also take

the following supplements myself (so he gets benefit through breast milk):

multi, Metagenics Vessel Care, D3, mineral supplement, probiotic.

>

> What would you do at this point? I have considered eliminating gluten as well

but I honestly don't feel like I can do it. I am having a hard enough time

maintaining my weight while breastfeeding as is and am concerned that if I

restrict my diet further, it will be bad for my health and ultimately for the

baby as well.

>

> Sorry this is so long. Please give some advice if you can!

>

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Hi. I have a 7 month old too. I understand your concerns, as I am right there

with you. Our (third) child is not vaccinated, and will never be as long as I

have a voice about it.

If you had surgery - you might be B12 depleted, and so might he be too. You

really should start supplementing, and get your levels checked. It could

account for the excessive night wakings. My child too, was a great sleeper

right from the start, I had dental surgery (nitrous oxide) and all the sudden

Sam stopped gaining weight like he had been, and he was up all the time -- from

a child that slept literally thru the night. Once I started supplementing him

and myself, he started sleeping thru the night again. He's almost to a 'great'

baby again. (I also take dessicated liver pills for myself, which is high in

iron, and cobalmin (b12)) -- There is a book you should read (sorry to be

pushy...) " Could it be B12? An Epidemic of a Misdiagnosis. " by Sally M Pacholok,

RN and J Stuart, DO. Lots of GREAT info in that.

Sitting slouched - I found is a lack of nutrition. If you are breastfeeding (as

I am too) - make sure you are still taking your prenatals (I take New Chapter

Organics) and if your pee (sorry about the visual) is like a glow stick - you

aren't absorbing your B vitamins, use a digestive enzyme to help. (when you

take your Prenatals, take a few digestive enzymes - I take Klair Labs vital-zyme

chewable) I took 'double' my prenatals for a couple of months after my surgery

and when I saw he was sitting up posture perfect, I went back to just the daily

dose...My Jimmy and Maddie were 'slouchers' -- and once I got their diets right,

that went away quickly. Sam's posture is perfect.

Sam is 8 months on March 9th. He sits, can almost get to sitting position by

himself, climbs, is starting to pull up on things (and slam his face into

everything), crawling (still on tummy - but he is super fast) but does that

thing on all fours and rocks like crazy. Babbles constantly, laughs, follows

you with his eyes, can see really far away, can self soothe to bed (put him in

drowsy, and he can put himself to sleep). He can eat himself, and insists on

holding bottle himself lately. (I only put juicer juice in bottle) He breast

feeds about 6-8 times in a 24 hour period.

** during the time after my dental surgery, it was more like 14 times -- which

made me think he wasn't getting what he needed in terms of nutrients.

I give Sam vitamin D3 drops (and I get him in the sun as much as possible), he

gets 10 B12 drops (methyl), Klaire Labs Infant probiotics

Consider juicing for your child. I juice for Sam. He takes 2-3 4oz bottles a

day. Be sure to check his diaper often as the poop does NOT stink..and he could

get a rash from being too wet. He also takes food, but, who knows how much

nutrition he gets from the dead baby food that they serve in the jars...juicing

is FULL of nutrition. I mean FULL -- and it would seem our babies need it. I

do make my child pear sauce, but lately, I just puree what we are having (gotta

love the third child to put things into perspective for ya)...he ate broccoli,

pasta (rice), and eggs for dinner.

Consider going gluten free. I know you said it's not an option. But gluten

makes a 'glue' all over your intestines that doesn't allow nutrients to get into

the blood stream. You may be giving him 'calories' but not enough nutrition,

because your pipes are, well, got slime and sludge which is clogging up the

uptake. There are lots of great breads out there now, even bagels, and the rice

noodles we use (Tinkyada) you cannot tell the difference (if you cook them

correctly). And honestly, it's for such a short while...you might even see a

huge difference in your energy levels...I know I have.

Also, you should be eating 5-6 times a day, small meals. Snacking and grazing.

MOOOO...that is what I say to my husband when he says " you're eating again? " --

YES, I am hungry..the little guy just took about 300 calories in food and my

stomach is growling. I made pancakes for everyone at 4pm this afternoon. Then

my son who finally got back his appetite was like " do we have bacon? " -- sure,

why not.

Meat and vegetables - and a lot of them. I eat a salad everyday. nas

French dressing is wonderful, even better on a taco salad...I've actually lost a

few pant sizes this time. All the other times, I have a difficult time with

'baby weight.' If you are having a hard time keeping weight, protein. Steaks

(lean!), chicken, eggs are good sources of protein. And you should be making

yourself a protein shake daily. (Smoothie type stuff)

AND RELAX! It's hard to be a good Mom much less a great one, when you feel

stressed out...tell the husband to get out the lotion for a foot rub and a back

rub...Take an epsom salt bath (they are wonderful!) Take extra long hot showers

for yourself. It's important. Take care of you, so that you can care for your

children.

hugs...Parenting is tough. Even tougher when there isn't a clear sign that says

" GO THIS WAY! "

hang in there...

seriously though. B12.

laura :)

>

> This will probably be a bit long but if you could bear with me, I could really

use some advice!

>

> A little background: My 5 year old DS is on the mild end of the autism

spectrum. My 3 year old DD has Down syndrome. I also have a 7.5 month old DS.

We have not vaccinated the baby at all and do not plan to.

>

> Everything was going great up until about 3 months old. I am breastfeeding

and he was doing great. No skin issues, no food issues, development on track in

all areas. Sleeping well.

>

> Then when he was 3 months old, I got appendicitis. I needed an emergency

appendectomy and was on a lot of pain killers in the hospital as well as

anesthesia for the surgery and IV antibiotics during the surgery. During this

time, I was told by the anesthesiologist that I needed to " pump and dump " the

milk for 24 hours from the surgery. I read some info on some breastfeeding

sites that said that I didn't even need to " pump and dump " for that long but I

wanted to be conservative and do what they said. I had some frozen breast milk

which was fed to DS and then when we ran out, he got two bottles of

formula...his 1st ever formula.

>

> After the surgery, he started waking up at night more often. At first we

blamed it on low milk supply due to the surgery. But then my supply was back up

and he was still waking. We blamed it on teething and on growth spurts but the

wakings continued to become more frequent.

>

> By the end of December (around 5.5 months), he was literally waking up every

30-90 minutes at night and screaming hysterically. He would arch his back like

he was in pain. I took him to the doctor twice to have him checked out.

Everything checked out fine...ear were fine. No signs of what could be causing

it. Doctor wanted us to try Zantac in case it was silent reflux. He showed no

signs of reflux at all but we tried it just in case. It made no difference.

>

> Then we thought maybe the antibiotics from surgery messed with his belly or

maybe the formula triggered a food allergy/intolerance (even though he wasn't

showing classic symptoms). So I eliminated dairy from my diet and we started

giving him a probiotic every day. The screaming and arching subsided.

>

> He now still gets up 2-3 times a night which is still more than before but I

guess within the range of " normal " for a breastfed baby. I feel like he is no

longer in pain when he wakes which is good.

>

> The problem though is that I feel like he is " changed " not that the whole

ordeal is passed. He is now 7.5 months old and is not sitting up unassisted.

He will roll to get places but isn't crawling or pulling up (still a little

early for that). The biggest concern though is that he doesn't seem as

talkative as he was. He used to babble and would go back and forth with us if

we talked to him. Now he seems to be a very serious baby. If you try to get

him to laugh, it takes a lot of effort. He will just stare at you with a

serious face. He doesn't really babble with consonant sounds much any more.

>

> Physically we don't notice any concerning symptoms. Skin is fine. Bowels are

normal.

>

> We are at a loss as to what to do now and we are very concerned.

>

> We have continued with the probiotic and I am still dairy free. I also take

the following supplements myself (so he gets benefit through breast milk):

multi, Metagenics Vessel Care, D3, mineral supplement, probiotic.

>

> What would you do at this point? I have considered eliminating gluten as well

but I honestly don't feel like I can do it. I am having a hard enough time

maintaining my weight while breastfeeding as is and am concerned that if I

restrict my diet further, it will be bad for my health and ultimately for the

baby as well.

>

> Sorry this is so long. Please give some advice if you can!

>

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Hi. I have a 7 month old too. I understand your concerns, as I am right there

with you. Our (third) child is not vaccinated, and will never be as long as I

have a voice about it.

If you had surgery - you might be B12 depleted, and so might he be too. You

really should start supplementing, and get your levels checked. It could

account for the excessive night wakings. My child too, was a great sleeper

right from the start, I had dental surgery (nitrous oxide) and all the sudden

Sam stopped gaining weight like he had been, and he was up all the time -- from

a child that slept literally thru the night. Once I started supplementing him

and myself, he started sleeping thru the night again. He's almost to a 'great'

baby again. (I also take dessicated liver pills for myself, which is high in

iron, and cobalmin (b12)) -- There is a book you should read (sorry to be

pushy...) " Could it be B12? An Epidemic of a Misdiagnosis. " by Sally M Pacholok,

RN and J Stuart, DO. Lots of GREAT info in that.

Sitting slouched - I found is a lack of nutrition. If you are breastfeeding (as

I am too) - make sure you are still taking your prenatals (I take New Chapter

Organics) and if your pee (sorry about the visual) is like a glow stick - you

aren't absorbing your B vitamins, use a digestive enzyme to help. (when you

take your Prenatals, take a few digestive enzymes - I take Klair Labs vital-zyme

chewable) I took 'double' my prenatals for a couple of months after my surgery

and when I saw he was sitting up posture perfect, I went back to just the daily

dose...My Jimmy and Maddie were 'slouchers' -- and once I got their diets right,

that went away quickly. Sam's posture is perfect.

Sam is 8 months on March 9th. He sits, can almost get to sitting position by

himself, climbs, is starting to pull up on things (and slam his face into

everything), crawling (still on tummy - but he is super fast) but does that

thing on all fours and rocks like crazy. Babbles constantly, laughs, follows

you with his eyes, can see really far away, can self soothe to bed (put him in

drowsy, and he can put himself to sleep). He can eat himself, and insists on

holding bottle himself lately. (I only put juicer juice in bottle) He breast

feeds about 6-8 times in a 24 hour period.

** during the time after my dental surgery, it was more like 14 times -- which

made me think he wasn't getting what he needed in terms of nutrients.

I give Sam vitamin D3 drops (and I get him in the sun as much as possible), he

gets 10 B12 drops (methyl), Klaire Labs Infant probiotics

Consider juicing for your child. I juice for Sam. He takes 2-3 4oz bottles a

day. Be sure to check his diaper often as the poop does NOT stink..and he could

get a rash from being too wet. He also takes food, but, who knows how much

nutrition he gets from the dead baby food that they serve in the jars...juicing

is FULL of nutrition. I mean FULL -- and it would seem our babies need it. I

do make my child pear sauce, but lately, I just puree what we are having (gotta

love the third child to put things into perspective for ya)...he ate broccoli,

pasta (rice), and eggs for dinner.

Consider going gluten free. I know you said it's not an option. But gluten

makes a 'glue' all over your intestines that doesn't allow nutrients to get into

the blood stream. You may be giving him 'calories' but not enough nutrition,

because your pipes are, well, got slime and sludge which is clogging up the

uptake. There are lots of great breads out there now, even bagels, and the rice

noodles we use (Tinkyada) you cannot tell the difference (if you cook them

correctly). And honestly, it's for such a short while...you might even see a

huge difference in your energy levels...I know I have.

Also, you should be eating 5-6 times a day, small meals. Snacking and grazing.

MOOOO...that is what I say to my husband when he says " you're eating again? " --

YES, I am hungry..the little guy just took about 300 calories in food and my

stomach is growling. I made pancakes for everyone at 4pm this afternoon. Then

my son who finally got back his appetite was like " do we have bacon? " -- sure,

why not.

Meat and vegetables - and a lot of them. I eat a salad everyday. nas

French dressing is wonderful, even better on a taco salad...I've actually lost a

few pant sizes this time. All the other times, I have a difficult time with

'baby weight.' If you are having a hard time keeping weight, protein. Steaks

(lean!), chicken, eggs are good sources of protein. And you should be making

yourself a protein shake daily. (Smoothie type stuff)

AND RELAX! It's hard to be a good Mom much less a great one, when you feel

stressed out...tell the husband to get out the lotion for a foot rub and a back

rub...Take an epsom salt bath (they are wonderful!) Take extra long hot showers

for yourself. It's important. Take care of you, so that you can care for your

children.

hugs...Parenting is tough. Even tougher when there isn't a clear sign that says

" GO THIS WAY! "

hang in there...

seriously though. B12.

laura :)

>

> This will probably be a bit long but if you could bear with me, I could really

use some advice!

>

> A little background: My 5 year old DS is on the mild end of the autism

spectrum. My 3 year old DD has Down syndrome. I also have a 7.5 month old DS.

We have not vaccinated the baby at all and do not plan to.

>

> Everything was going great up until about 3 months old. I am breastfeeding

and he was doing great. No skin issues, no food issues, development on track in

all areas. Sleeping well.

>

> Then when he was 3 months old, I got appendicitis. I needed an emergency

appendectomy and was on a lot of pain killers in the hospital as well as

anesthesia for the surgery and IV antibiotics during the surgery. During this

time, I was told by the anesthesiologist that I needed to " pump and dump " the

milk for 24 hours from the surgery. I read some info on some breastfeeding

sites that said that I didn't even need to " pump and dump " for that long but I

wanted to be conservative and do what they said. I had some frozen breast milk

which was fed to DS and then when we ran out, he got two bottles of

formula...his 1st ever formula.

>

> After the surgery, he started waking up at night more often. At first we

blamed it on low milk supply due to the surgery. But then my supply was back up

and he was still waking. We blamed it on teething and on growth spurts but the

wakings continued to become more frequent.

>

> By the end of December (around 5.5 months), he was literally waking up every

30-90 minutes at night and screaming hysterically. He would arch his back like

he was in pain. I took him to the doctor twice to have him checked out.

Everything checked out fine...ear were fine. No signs of what could be causing

it. Doctor wanted us to try Zantac in case it was silent reflux. He showed no

signs of reflux at all but we tried it just in case. It made no difference.

>

> Then we thought maybe the antibiotics from surgery messed with his belly or

maybe the formula triggered a food allergy/intolerance (even though he wasn't

showing classic symptoms). So I eliminated dairy from my diet and we started

giving him a probiotic every day. The screaming and arching subsided.

>

> He now still gets up 2-3 times a night which is still more than before but I

guess within the range of " normal " for a breastfed baby. I feel like he is no

longer in pain when he wakes which is good.

>

> The problem though is that I feel like he is " changed " not that the whole

ordeal is passed. He is now 7.5 months old and is not sitting up unassisted.

He will roll to get places but isn't crawling or pulling up (still a little

early for that). The biggest concern though is that he doesn't seem as

talkative as he was. He used to babble and would go back and forth with us if

we talked to him. Now he seems to be a very serious baby. If you try to get

him to laugh, it takes a lot of effort. He will just stare at you with a

serious face. He doesn't really babble with consonant sounds much any more.

>

> Physically we don't notice any concerning symptoms. Skin is fine. Bowels are

normal.

>

> We are at a loss as to what to do now and we are very concerned.

>

> We have continued with the probiotic and I am still dairy free. I also take

the following supplements myself (so he gets benefit through breast milk):

multi, Metagenics Vessel Care, D3, mineral supplement, probiotic.

>

> What would you do at this point? I have considered eliminating gluten as well

but I honestly don't feel like I can do it. I am having a hard enough time

maintaining my weight while breastfeeding as is and am concerned that if I

restrict my diet further, it will be bad for my health and ultimately for the

baby as well.

>

> Sorry this is so long. Please give some advice if you can!

>

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,Wow..what an amazing response! I just weaned my 16 month old son. I am curious about the methyl B12 drops you mentioned in your response. Can you tell me what brand you use? My son is 27 lbs. I would like to get this for him...and also for my 5 yr old daughter. Do you notice any hyperactivity w/ b12? I just got a vitamix..but seem extremely unsuccesful at making it taste good! =(Cheers,To: mb12 valtrex Sent: Sun, February 27, 2011 7:40:23 PMSubject: Re: Having concerns about my 7 month old. Advice needed please!

Hi. I have a 7 month old too. I understand your concerns, as I am right there with you. Our (third) child is not vaccinated, and will never be as long as I have a voice about it.

If you had surgery - you might be B12 depleted, and so might he be too. You really should start supplementing, and get your levels checked. It could account for the excessive night wakings. My child too, was a great sleeper right from the start, I had dental surgery (nitrous oxide) and all the sudden Sam stopped gaining weight like he had been, and he was up all the time -- from a child that slept literally thru the night. Once I started supplementing him and myself, he started sleeping thru the night again. He's almost to a 'great' baby again. (I also take dessicated liver pills for myself, which is high in iron, and cobalmin (b12)) -- There is a book you should read (sorry to be pushy...) "Could it be B12? An Epidemic of a Misdiagnosis." by Sally M Pacholok, RN and J Stuart, DO. Lots of GREAT info in that.

Sitting slouched - I found is a lack of nutrition. If you are breastfeeding (as I am too) - make sure you are still taking your prenatals (I take New Chapter Organics) and if your pee (sorry about the visual) is like a glow stick - you aren't absorbing your B vitamins, use a digestive enzyme to help. (when you take your Prenatals, take a few digestive enzymes - I take Klair Labs vital-zyme chewable) I took 'double' my prenatals for a couple of months after my surgery and when I saw he was sitting up posture perfect, I went back to just the daily dose...My Jimmy and Maddie were 'slouchers' -- and once I got their diets right, that went away quickly. Sam's posture is perfect.

Sam is 8 months on March 9th. He sits, can almost get to sitting position by himself, climbs, is starting to pull up on things (and slam his face into everything), crawling (still on tummy - but he is super fast) but does that thing on all fours and rocks like crazy. Babbles constantly, laughs, follows you with his eyes, can see really far away, can self soothe to bed (put him in drowsy, and he can put himself to sleep). He can eat himself, and insists on holding bottle himself lately. (I only put juicer juice in bottle) He breast feeds about 6-8 times in a 24 hour period.

** during the time after my dental surgery, it was more like 14 times -- which made me think he wasn't getting what he needed in terms of nutrients.

I give Sam vitamin D3 drops (and I get him in the sun as much as possible), he gets 10 B12 drops (methyl), Klaire Labs Infant probiotics

Consider juicing for your child. I juice for Sam. He takes 2-3 4oz bottles a day. Be sure to check his diaper often as the poop does NOT stink..and he could get a rash from being too wet. He also takes food, but, who knows how much nutrition he gets from the dead baby food that they serve in the jars...juicing is FULL of nutrition. I mean FULL -- and it would seem our babies need it. I do make my child pear sauce, but lately, I just puree what we are having (gotta love the third child to put things into perspective for ya)...he ate broccoli, pasta (rice), and eggs for dinner.

Consider going gluten free. I know you said it's not an option. But gluten makes a 'glue' all over your intestines that doesn't allow nutrients to get into the blood stream. You may be giving him 'calories' but not enough nutrition, because your pipes are, well, got slime and sludge which is clogging up the uptake. There are lots of great breads out there now, even bagels, and the rice noodles we use (Tinkyada) you cannot tell the difference (if you cook them correctly). And honestly, it's for such a short while...you might even see a huge difference in your energy levels...I know I have.

Also, you should be eating 5-6 times a day, small meals. Snacking and grazing. MOOOO...that is what I say to my husband when he says "you're eating again?" -- YES, I am hungry..the little guy just took about 300 calories in food and my stomach is growling. I made pancakes for everyone at 4pm this afternoon. Then my son who finally got back his appetite was like "do we have bacon?" -- sure, why not.

Meat and vegetables - and a lot of them. I eat a salad everyday. nas French dressing is wonderful, even better on a taco salad...I've actually lost a few pant sizes this time. All the other times, I have a difficult time with 'baby weight.' If you are having a hard time keeping weight, protein. Steaks (lean!), chicken, eggs are good sources of protein. And you should be making yourself a protein shake daily. (Smoothie type stuff)

AND RELAX! It's hard to be a good Mom much less a great one, when you feel stressed out...tell the husband to get out the lotion for a foot rub and a back rub...Take an epsom salt bath (they are wonderful!) Take extra long hot showers for yourself. It's important. Take care of you, so that you can care for your children.

hugs...Parenting is tough. Even tougher when there isn't a clear sign that says "GO THIS WAY!"

hang in there...

seriously though. B12.

laura :)

>

> This will probably be a bit long but if you could bear with me, I could really use some advice!

>

> A little background: My 5 year old DS is on the mild end of the autism spectrum. My 3 year old DD has Down syndrome. I also have a 7.5 month old DS. We have not vaccinated the baby at all and do not plan to.

>

> Everything was going great up until about 3 months old. I am breastfeeding and he was doing great. No skin issues, no food issues, development on track in all areas. Sleeping well.

>

> Then when he was 3 months old, I got appendicitis. I needed an emergency appendectomy and was on a lot of pain killers in the hospital as well as anesthesia for the surgery and IV antibiotics during the surgery. During this time, I was told by the anesthesiologist that I needed to "pump and dump" the milk for 24 hours from the surgery. I read some info on some breastfeeding sites that said that I didn't even need to "pump and dump" for that long but I wanted to be conservative and do what they said. I had some frozen breast milk which was fed to DS and then when we ran out, he got two bottles of formula...his 1st ever formula.

>

> After the surgery, he started waking up at night more often. At first we blamed it on low milk supply due to the surgery. But then my supply was back up and he was still waking. We blamed it on teething and on growth spurts but the wakings continued to become more frequent.

>

> By the end of December (around 5.5 months), he was literally waking up every 30-90 minutes at night and screaming hysterically. He would arch his back like he was in pain. I took him to the doctor twice to have him checked out. Everything checked out fine...ear were fine. No signs of what could be causing it. Doctor wanted us to try Zantac in case it was silent reflux. He showed no signs of reflux at all but we tried it just in case. It made no difference.

>

> Then we thought maybe the antibiotics from surgery messed with his belly or maybe the formula triggered a food allergy/intolerance (even though he wasn't showing classic symptoms). So I eliminated dairy from my diet and we started giving him a probiotic every day. The screaming and arching subsided.

>

> He now still gets up 2-3 times a night which is still more than before but I guess within the range of "normal" for a breastfed baby. I feel like he is no longer in pain when he wakes which is good.

>

> The problem though is that I feel like he is "changed" not that the whole ordeal is passed. He is now 7.5 months old and is not sitting up unassisted. He will roll to get places but isn't crawling or pulling up (still a little early for that). The biggest concern though is that he doesn't seem as talkative as he was. He used to babble and would go back and forth with us if we talked to him. Now he seems to be a very serious baby. If you try to get him to laugh, it takes a lot of effort. He will just stare at you with a serious face. He doesn't really babble with consonant sounds much any more.

>

> Physically we don't notice any concerning symptoms. Skin is fine. Bowels are normal.

>

> We are at a loss as to what to do now and we are very concerned.

>

> We have continued with the probiotic and I am still dairy free. I also take the following supplements myself (so he gets benefit through breast milk): multi, Metagenics Vessel Care, D3, mineral supplement, probiotic.

>

> What would you do at this point? I have considered eliminating gluten as well but I honestly don't feel like I can do it. I am having a hard enough time maintaining my weight while breastfeeding as is and am concerned that if I restrict my diet further, it will be bad for my health and ultimately for the baby as well.

>

> Sorry this is so long. Please give some advice if you can!

>

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Here is a brand -

It looks good to me.

http://www.naturalhealthyconcepts.com/vitamin-b12-K34-p-b-vitamins.html

Also, keep in mind, when you supplement with 'methyl' form of B12 - it doesn't

allow for the liver to 'store' it..so you will always have to supplement. Now,

that being said, I take dessicated liver pills, which is just 'cobalmin' or B12

-- which CAN be stored in the liver.

The liver can store up to 4-5 years of cobalmin for use when you don't have the

intake...I hope this makes sense...

(which is why I supplement myself, so that I can get my stores back up, and Sam

will also get the benefit of it, thru my breast milk..)

:) laura

> > >

> > > This will probably be a bit long but if you could bear with me, I could

really

> > >use some advice!

> > >

> > > A little background: My 5 year old DS is on the mild end of the autism

> > >spectrum. My 3 year old DD has Down syndrome. I also have a 7.5 month old

DS.

> > >We have not vaccinated the baby at all and do not plan to.

> > >

> > > Everything was going great up until about 3 months old. I am

breastfeeding and

> > >he was doing great. No skin issues, no food issues, development on track

in all

> > >areas. Sleeping well.

> > >

> > > Then when he was 3 months old, I got appendicitis. I needed an emergency

> > >appendectomy and was on a lot of pain killers in the hospital as well as

> > >anesthesia for the surgery and IV antibiotics during the surgery. During

this

> > >time, I was told by the anesthesiologist that I needed to " pump and dump "

the

> > >milk for 24 hours from the surgery. I read some info on some breastfeeding

> > >sites that said that I didn't even need to " pump and dump " for that long

but I

> > >wanted to be conservative and do what they said. I had some frozen breast

milk

> > >which was fed to DS and then when we ran out, he got two bottles of

> > >formula...his 1st ever formula.

> > >

> > > After the surgery, he started waking up at night more often. At first we

> > >blamed it on low milk supply due to the surgery. But then my supply was

back up

> > >and he was still waking. We blamed it on teething and on growth spurts but

the

> > >wakings continued to become more frequent.

> > >

> > > By the end of December (around 5.5 months), he was literally waking up

every

> > >30-90 minutes at night and screaming hysterically. He would arch his back

like

> > >he was in pain. I took him to the doctor twice to have him checked out.

> > >Everything checked out fine...ear were fine. No signs of what could be

causing

> > >it. Doctor wanted us to try Zantac in case it was silent reflux. He

showed no

> > >signs of reflux at all but we tried it just in case. It made no

difference.

> > >

> > > Then we thought maybe the antibiotics from surgery messed with his belly

or

> > >maybe the formula triggered a food allergy/intolerance (even though he

wasn't

> > >showing classic symptoms). So I eliminated dairy from my diet and we

started

> > >giving him a probiotic every day. The screaming and arching subsided.

> > >

> > > He now still gets up 2-3 times a night which is still more than before but

I

> > >guess within the range of " normal " for a breastfed baby. I feel like he is

no

> > >longer in pain when he wakes which is good.

> > >

> > > The problem though is that I feel like he is " changed " not that the whole

> > >ordeal is passed. He is now 7.5 months old and is not sitting up

unassisted.

> > >He will roll to get places but isn't crawling or pulling up (still a little

> > >early for that). The biggest concern though is that he doesn't seem as

> > >talkative as he was. He used to babble and would go back and forth with us

if

> > >we talked to him. Now he seems to be a very serious baby. If you try to

get

> > >him to laugh, it takes a lot of effort. He will just stare at you with a

> > >serious face. He doesn't really babble with consonant sounds much any

more.

> > >

> > > Physically we don't notice any concerning symptoms. Skin is fine. Bowels

are

> > >normal.

> > >

> > > We are at a loss as to what to do now and we are very concerned.

> > >

> > > We have continued with the probiotic and I am still dairy free. I also

take

> > >the following supplements myself (so he gets benefit through breast milk):

> > >multi, Metagenics Vessel Care, D3, mineral supplement, probiotic.

> > >

> > > What would you do at this point? I have considered eliminating gluten as

well

> > >but I honestly don't feel like I can do it. I am having a hard enough time

> > >maintaining my weight while breastfeeding as is and am concerned that if I

> > >restrict my diet further, it will be bad for my health and ultimately for

the

> > >baby as well.

> > >

> > > Sorry this is so long. Please give some advice if you can!

> > >

> >

>

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Here is a brand -

It looks good to me.

http://www.naturalhealthyconcepts.com/vitamin-b12-K34-p-b-vitamins.html

Also, keep in mind, when you supplement with 'methyl' form of B12 - it doesn't

allow for the liver to 'store' it..so you will always have to supplement. Now,

that being said, I take dessicated liver pills, which is just 'cobalmin' or B12

-- which CAN be stored in the liver.

The liver can store up to 4-5 years of cobalmin for use when you don't have the

intake...I hope this makes sense...

(which is why I supplement myself, so that I can get my stores back up, and Sam

will also get the benefit of it, thru my breast milk..)

:) laura

> > >

> > > This will probably be a bit long but if you could bear with me, I could

really

> > >use some advice!

> > >

> > > A little background: My 5 year old DS is on the mild end of the autism

> > >spectrum. My 3 year old DD has Down syndrome. I also have a 7.5 month old

DS.

> > >We have not vaccinated the baby at all and do not plan to.

> > >

> > > Everything was going great up until about 3 months old. I am

breastfeeding and

> > >he was doing great. No skin issues, no food issues, development on track

in all

> > >areas. Sleeping well.

> > >

> > > Then when he was 3 months old, I got appendicitis. I needed an emergency

> > >appendectomy and was on a lot of pain killers in the hospital as well as

> > >anesthesia for the surgery and IV antibiotics during the surgery. During

this

> > >time, I was told by the anesthesiologist that I needed to " pump and dump "

the

> > >milk for 24 hours from the surgery. I read some info on some breastfeeding

> > >sites that said that I didn't even need to " pump and dump " for that long

but I

> > >wanted to be conservative and do what they said. I had some frozen breast

milk

> > >which was fed to DS and then when we ran out, he got two bottles of

> > >formula...his 1st ever formula.

> > >

> > > After the surgery, he started waking up at night more often. At first we

> > >blamed it on low milk supply due to the surgery. But then my supply was

back up

> > >and he was still waking. We blamed it on teething and on growth spurts but

the

> > >wakings continued to become more frequent.

> > >

> > > By the end of December (around 5.5 months), he was literally waking up

every

> > >30-90 minutes at night and screaming hysterically. He would arch his back

like

> > >he was in pain. I took him to the doctor twice to have him checked out.

> > >Everything checked out fine...ear were fine. No signs of what could be

causing

> > >it. Doctor wanted us to try Zantac in case it was silent reflux. He

showed no

> > >signs of reflux at all but we tried it just in case. It made no

difference.

> > >

> > > Then we thought maybe the antibiotics from surgery messed with his belly

or

> > >maybe the formula triggered a food allergy/intolerance (even though he

wasn't

> > >showing classic symptoms). So I eliminated dairy from my diet and we

started

> > >giving him a probiotic every day. The screaming and arching subsided.

> > >

> > > He now still gets up 2-3 times a night which is still more than before but

I

> > >guess within the range of " normal " for a breastfed baby. I feel like he is

no

> > >longer in pain when he wakes which is good.

> > >

> > > The problem though is that I feel like he is " changed " not that the whole

> > >ordeal is passed. He is now 7.5 months old and is not sitting up

unassisted.

> > >He will roll to get places but isn't crawling or pulling up (still a little

> > >early for that). The biggest concern though is that he doesn't seem as

> > >talkative as he was. He used to babble and would go back and forth with us

if

> > >we talked to him. Now he seems to be a very serious baby. If you try to

get

> > >him to laugh, it takes a lot of effort. He will just stare at you with a

> > >serious face. He doesn't really babble with consonant sounds much any

more.

> > >

> > > Physically we don't notice any concerning symptoms. Skin is fine. Bowels

are

> > >normal.

> > >

> > > We are at a loss as to what to do now and we are very concerned.

> > >

> > > We have continued with the probiotic and I am still dairy free. I also

take

> > >the following supplements myself (so he gets benefit through breast milk):

> > >multi, Metagenics Vessel Care, D3, mineral supplement, probiotic.

> > >

> > > What would you do at this point? I have considered eliminating gluten as

well

> > >but I honestly don't feel like I can do it. I am having a hard enough time

> > >maintaining my weight while breastfeeding as is and am concerned that if I

> > >restrict my diet further, it will be bad for my health and ultimately for

the

> > >baby as well.

> > >

> > > Sorry this is so long. Please give some advice if you can!

> > >

> >

>

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Here is a brand -

It looks good to me.

http://www.naturalhealthyconcepts.com/vitamin-b12-K34-p-b-vitamins.html

Also, keep in mind, when you supplement with 'methyl' form of B12 - it doesn't

allow for the liver to 'store' it..so you will always have to supplement. Now,

that being said, I take dessicated liver pills, which is just 'cobalmin' or B12

-- which CAN be stored in the liver.

The liver can store up to 4-5 years of cobalmin for use when you don't have the

intake...I hope this makes sense...

(which is why I supplement myself, so that I can get my stores back up, and Sam

will also get the benefit of it, thru my breast milk..)

:) laura

> > >

> > > This will probably be a bit long but if you could bear with me, I could

really

> > >use some advice!

> > >

> > > A little background: My 5 year old DS is on the mild end of the autism

> > >spectrum. My 3 year old DD has Down syndrome. I also have a 7.5 month old

DS.

> > >We have not vaccinated the baby at all and do not plan to.

> > >

> > > Everything was going great up until about 3 months old. I am

breastfeeding and

> > >he was doing great. No skin issues, no food issues, development on track

in all

> > >areas. Sleeping well.

> > >

> > > Then when he was 3 months old, I got appendicitis. I needed an emergency

> > >appendectomy and was on a lot of pain killers in the hospital as well as

> > >anesthesia for the surgery and IV antibiotics during the surgery. During

this

> > >time, I was told by the anesthesiologist that I needed to " pump and dump "

the

> > >milk for 24 hours from the surgery. I read some info on some breastfeeding

> > >sites that said that I didn't even need to " pump and dump " for that long

but I

> > >wanted to be conservative and do what they said. I had some frozen breast

milk

> > >which was fed to DS and then when we ran out, he got two bottles of

> > >formula...his 1st ever formula.

> > >

> > > After the surgery, he started waking up at night more often. At first we

> > >blamed it on low milk supply due to the surgery. But then my supply was

back up

> > >and he was still waking. We blamed it on teething and on growth spurts but

the

> > >wakings continued to become more frequent.

> > >

> > > By the end of December (around 5.5 months), he was literally waking up

every

> > >30-90 minutes at night and screaming hysterically. He would arch his back

like

> > >he was in pain. I took him to the doctor twice to have him checked out.

> > >Everything checked out fine...ear were fine. No signs of what could be

causing

> > >it. Doctor wanted us to try Zantac in case it was silent reflux. He

showed no

> > >signs of reflux at all but we tried it just in case. It made no

difference.

> > >

> > > Then we thought maybe the antibiotics from surgery messed with his belly

or

> > >maybe the formula triggered a food allergy/intolerance (even though he

wasn't

> > >showing classic symptoms). So I eliminated dairy from my diet and we

started

> > >giving him a probiotic every day. The screaming and arching subsided.

> > >

> > > He now still gets up 2-3 times a night which is still more than before but

I

> > >guess within the range of " normal " for a breastfed baby. I feel like he is

no

> > >longer in pain when he wakes which is good.

> > >

> > > The problem though is that I feel like he is " changed " not that the whole

> > >ordeal is passed. He is now 7.5 months old and is not sitting up

unassisted.

> > >He will roll to get places but isn't crawling or pulling up (still a little

> > >early for that). The biggest concern though is that he doesn't seem as

> > >talkative as he was. He used to babble and would go back and forth with us

if

> > >we talked to him. Now he seems to be a very serious baby. If you try to

get

> > >him to laugh, it takes a lot of effort. He will just stare at you with a

> > >serious face. He doesn't really babble with consonant sounds much any

more.

> > >

> > > Physically we don't notice any concerning symptoms. Skin is fine. Bowels

are

> > >normal.

> > >

> > > We are at a loss as to what to do now and we are very concerned.

> > >

> > > We have continued with the probiotic and I am still dairy free. I also

take

> > >the following supplements myself (so he gets benefit through breast milk):

> > >multi, Metagenics Vessel Care, D3, mineral supplement, probiotic.

> > >

> > > What would you do at this point? I have considered eliminating gluten as

well

> > >but I honestly don't feel like I can do it. I am having a hard enough time

> > >maintaining my weight while breastfeeding as is and am concerned that if I

> > >restrict my diet further, it will be bad for my health and ultimately for

the

> > >baby as well.

> > >

> > > Sorry this is so long. Please give some advice if you can!

> > >

> >

>

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OH! in the morning with juice...if we give it before bed, he has to use the

bathroom. :) laura

>

> >

>

> > > >

>

> >

>

> > > > This will probably be a bit long but if you could bear with me, I could

really

>

> >

>

> > > >use some advice!

>

> >

>

> > > >

>

> >

>

> > > > A little background: My 5 year old DS is on the mild end of the autism

>

> >

>

> > > >spectrum. My 3 year old DD has Down syndrome. I also have a 7.5 month

old DS.

>

> >

>

> > > >We have not vaccinated the baby at all and do not plan to.

>

> >

>

> > > >

>

> >

>

> > > > Everything was going great up until about 3 months old. I am

breastfeeding and

>

> >

>

> > > >he was doing great. No skin issues, no food issues, development on track

in all

>

> >

>

> > > >areas. Sleeping well.

>

> >

>

> > > >

>

> >

>

> > > > Then when he was 3 months old, I got appendicitis. I needed an

emergency

>

> >

>

> > > >appendectomy and was on a lot of pain killers in the hospital as well as

>

> >

>

> > > >anesthesia for the surgery and IV antibiotics during the surgery. During

this

>

> >

>

> > > >time, I was told by the anesthesiologist that I needed to " pump and dump "

the

>

> >

>

> > > >milk for 24 hours from the surgery. I read some info on some

breastfeeding

>

> >

>

> > > >sites that said that I didn't even need to " pump and dump " for that long

but I

>

> >

>

> > > >wanted to be conservative and do what they said. I had some frozen

breast milk

>

> >

>

> > > >which was fed to DS and then when we ran out, he got two bottles of

>

> >

>

> > > >formula...his 1st ever formula.

>

> >

>

> > > >

>

> >

>

> > > > After the surgery, he started waking up at night more often. At first

we

>

> >

>

> > > >blamed it on low milk supply due to the surgery. But then my supply was

back up

>

> >

>

> > > >and he was still waking. We blamed it on teething and on growth spurts

but the

>

> >

>

> > > >wakings continued to become more frequent.

>

> >

>

> > > >

>

> >

>

> > > > By the end of December (around 5.5 months), he was literally waking up

every

>

> >

>

> > > >30-90 minutes at night and screaming hysterically. He would arch his

back like

>

> >

>

> > > >he was in pain. I took him to the doctor twice to have him checked out.

>

> >

>

> > > >Everything checked out fine...ear were fine. No signs of what could be

causing

>

> >

>

> > > >it. Doctor wanted us to try Zantac in case it was silent reflux. He

showed no

>

> >

>

> > > >signs of reflux at all but we tried it just in case. It made no

difference.

>

> >

>

> > > >

>

> >

>

> > > > Then we thought maybe the antibiotics from surgery messed with his belly

or

>

> >

>

> > > >maybe the formula triggered a food allergy/intolerance (even though he

wasn't

>

> >

>

> > > >showing classic symptoms). So I eliminated dairy from my diet and we

started

>

> >

>

> > > >giving him a probiotic every day. The screaming and arching subsided.

>

> >

>

> > > >

>

> >

>

> > > > He now still gets up 2-3 times a night which is still more than before

but I

>

> >

>

> > > >guess within the range of " normal " for a breastfed baby. I feel like he

is no

>

> >

>

> > > >longer in pain when he wakes which is good.

>

> >

>

> > > >

>

> >

>

> > > > The problem though is that I feel like he is " changed " not that the

whole

>

> >

>

> > > >ordeal is passed. He is now 7.5 months old and is not sitting up

unassisted.

>

> >

>

> > > >He will roll to get places but isn't crawling or pulling up (still a

little

>

> >

>

> > > >early for that). The biggest concern though is that he doesn't seem as

>

> >

>

> > > >talkative as he was. He used to babble and would go back and forth with

us if

>

> >

>

> > > >we talked to him. Now he seems to be a very serious baby. If you try to

get

>

> >

>

> > > >him to laugh, it takes a lot of effort. He will just stare at you with a

>

> >

>

> > > >serious face. He doesn't really babble with consonant sounds much any

more.

>

> >

>

> > > >

>

> >

>

> > > > Physically we don't notice any concerning symptoms. Skin is fine.

Bowels are

>

> >

>

> > > >normal.

>

> >

>

> > > >

>

> >

>

> > > > We are at a loss as to what to do now and we are very concerned.

>

> >

>

> > > >

>

> >

>

> > > > We have continued with the probiotic and I am still dairy free. I also

take

>

> >

>

> > > >the following supplements myself (so he gets benefit through breast

milk):

>

> >

>

> > > >multi, Metagenics Vessel Care, D3, mineral supplement, probiotic.

>

> >

>

> > > >

>

> >

>

> > > > What would you do at this point? I have considered eliminating gluten

as well

>

> >

>

> > > >but I honestly don't feel like I can do it. I am having a hard enough

time

>

> >

>

> > > >maintaining my weight while breastfeeding as is and am concerned that if

I

>

> >

>

> > > >restrict my diet further, it will be bad for my health and ultimately for

the

>

> >

>

> > > >baby as well.

>

> >

>

> > > >

>

> >

>

> > > > Sorry this is so long. Please give some advice if you can!

>

> >

>

> > > >

>

> >

>

> > >

>

> >

>

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