Re: Having concerns about my 7 month old. Advice needed please!

February 28, 2011

OH! in the morning with juice...if we give it before bed, he has to use the

bathroom. laura

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> > > > This will probably be a bit long but if you could bear with me, I could

really

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> > > >use some advice!

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> > > > A little background: My 5 year old DS is on the mild end of the autism

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> > > >spectrum. My 3 year old DD has Down syndrome. I also have a 7.5 month

old DS.

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> > > >We have not vaccinated the baby at all and do not plan to.

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> > > > Everything was going great up until about 3 months old. I am

breastfeeding and

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> > > >he was doing great. No skin issues, no food issues, development on track

in all

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> > > >areas. Sleeping well.

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> > > >

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> > > > Then when he was 3 months old, I got appendicitis. I needed an

emergency

>

> >

>

> > > >appendectomy and was on a lot of pain killers in the hospital as well as

>

> >

>

> > > >anesthesia for the surgery and IV antibiotics during the surgery. During

this

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> >

>

> > > >time, I was told by the anesthesiologist that I needed to " pump and dump "

the

>

> >

>

> > > >milk for 24 hours from the surgery. I read some info on some

breastfeeding

>

> >

>

> > > >sites that said that I didn't even need to " pump and dump " for that long

but I

>

> >

>

> > > >wanted to be conservative and do what they said. I had some frozen

breast milk

>

> >

>

> > > >which was fed to DS and then when we ran out, he got two bottles of

>

> >

>

> > > >formula...his 1st ever formula.

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> > > >

>

> >

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> > > > After the surgery, he started waking up at night more often. At first

we

>

> >

>

> > > >blamed it on low milk supply due to the surgery. But then my supply was

back up

>

> >

>

> > > >and he was still waking. We blamed it on teething and on growth spurts

but the

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> >

>

> > > >wakings continued to become more frequent.

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> > > >

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> >

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> > > > By the end of December (around 5.5 months), he was literally waking up

every

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> >

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> > > >30-90 minutes at night and screaming hysterically. He would arch his

back like

>

> >

>

> > > >he was in pain. I took him to the doctor twice to have him checked out.

>

> >

>

> > > >Everything checked out fine...ear were fine. No signs of what could be

causing

>

> >

>

> > > >it. Doctor wanted us to try Zantac in case it was silent reflux. He

showed no

>

> >

>

> > > >signs of reflux at all but we tried it just in case. It made no

difference.

>

> >

>

> > > >

>

> >

>

> > > > Then we thought maybe the antibiotics from surgery messed with his belly

or

>

> >

>

> > > >maybe the formula triggered a food allergy/intolerance (even though he

wasn't

>

> >

>

> > > >showing classic symptoms). So I eliminated dairy from my diet and we

started

>

> >

>

> > > >giving him a probiotic every day. The screaming and arching subsided.

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> >

>

> > > >

>

> >

>

> > > > He now still gets up 2-3 times a night which is still more than before

but I

>

> >

>

> > > >guess within the range of " normal " for a breastfed baby. I feel like he

is no

>

> >

>

> > > >longer in pain when he wakes which is good.

>

> >

>

> > > >

>

> >

>

> > > > The problem though is that I feel like he is " changed " not that the

whole

>

> >

>

> > > >ordeal is passed. He is now 7.5 months old and is not sitting up

unassisted.

>

> >

>

> > > >He will roll to get places but isn't crawling or pulling up (still a

little

>

> >

>

> > > >early for that). The biggest concern though is that he doesn't seem as

>

> >

>

> > > >talkative as he was. He used to babble and would go back and forth with

us if

>

> >

>

> > > >we talked to him. Now he seems to be a very serious baby. If you try to

get

>

> >

>

> > > >him to laugh, it takes a lot of effort. He will just stare at you with a

>

> >

>

> > > >serious face. He doesn't really babble with consonant sounds much any

more.

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> >

>

> > > >

>

> >

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> > > > Physically we don't notice any concerning symptoms. Skin is fine.

Bowels are

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> >

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> > > >normal.

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> > > >

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> >

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> > > > We are at a loss as to what to do now and we are very concerned.

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> > > >

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> >

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> > > > We have continued with the probiotic and I am still dairy free. I also

take

>

> >

>

> > > >the following supplements myself (so he gets benefit through breast

milk):

>

> >

>

> > > >multi, Metagenics Vessel Care, D3, mineral supplement, probiotic.

>

> >

>

> > > >

>

> >

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> > > > What would you do at this point? I have considered eliminating gluten

as well

>

> >

>

> > > >but I honestly don't feel like I can do it. I am having a hard enough

time

>

> >

>

> > > >maintaining my weight while breastfeeding as is and am concerned that if

I

>

> >

>

> > > >restrict my diet further, it will be bad for my health and ultimately for

the

>

> >

>

> > > >baby as well.

>

> >

>

> > > >

>

> >

>

> > > > Sorry this is so long. Please give some advice if you can!

>

> >

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> > > >

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> >

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> > >

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February 28, 2011

OH! in the morning with juice...if we give it before bed, he has to use the

bathroom. laura

>

> >

>

> > > >

>

> >

>

> > > > This will probably be a bit long but if you could bear with me, I could

really

>

> >

>

> > > >use some advice!

>

> >

>

> > > >

>

> >

>

> > > > A little background: My 5 year old DS is on the mild end of the autism

>

> >

>

> > > >spectrum. My 3 year old DD has Down syndrome. I also have a 7.5 month

old DS.

>

> >

>

> > > >We have not vaccinated the baby at all and do not plan to.

>

> >

>

> > > >

>

> >

>

> > > > Everything was going great up until about 3 months old. I am

breastfeeding and

>

> >

>

> > > >he was doing great. No skin issues, no food issues, development on track

in all

>

> >

>

> > > >areas. Sleeping well.

>

> >

>

> > > >

>

> >

>

> > > > Then when he was 3 months old, I got appendicitis. I needed an

emergency

>

> >

>

> > > >appendectomy and was on a lot of pain killers in the hospital as well as

>

> >

>

> > > >anesthesia for the surgery and IV antibiotics during the surgery. During

this

>

> >

>

> > > >time, I was told by the anesthesiologist that I needed to " pump and dump "

the

>

> >

>

> > > >milk for 24 hours from the surgery. I read some info on some

breastfeeding

>

> >

>

> > > >sites that said that I didn't even need to " pump and dump " for that long

but I

>

> >

>

> > > >wanted to be conservative and do what they said. I had some frozen

breast milk

>

> >

>

> > > >which was fed to DS and then when we ran out, he got two bottles of

>

> >

>

> > > >formula...his 1st ever formula.

>

> >

>

> > > >

>

> >

>

> > > > After the surgery, he started waking up at night more often. At first

we

>

> >

>

> > > >blamed it on low milk supply due to the surgery. But then my supply was

back up

>

> >

>

> > > >and he was still waking. We blamed it on teething and on growth spurts

but the

>

> >

>

> > > >wakings continued to become more frequent.

>

> >

>

> > > >

>

> >

>

> > > > By the end of December (around 5.5 months), he was literally waking up

every

>

> >

>

> > > >30-90 minutes at night and screaming hysterically. He would arch his

back like

>

> >

>

> > > >he was in pain. I took him to the doctor twice to have him checked out.

>

> >

>

> > > >Everything checked out fine...ear were fine. No signs of what could be

causing

>

> >

>

> > > >it. Doctor wanted us to try Zantac in case it was silent reflux. He

showed no

>

> >

>

> > > >signs of reflux at all but we tried it just in case. It made no

difference.

>

> >

>

> > > >

>

> >

>

> > > > Then we thought maybe the antibiotics from surgery messed with his belly

or

>

> >

>

> > > >maybe the formula triggered a food allergy/intolerance (even though he

wasn't

>

> >

>

> > > >showing classic symptoms). So I eliminated dairy from my diet and we

started

>

> >

>

> > > >giving him a probiotic every day. The screaming and arching subsided.

>

> >

>

> > > >

>

> >

>

> > > > He now still gets up 2-3 times a night which is still more than before

but I

>

> >

>

> > > >guess within the range of " normal " for a breastfed baby. I feel like he

is no

>

> >

>

> > > >longer in pain when he wakes which is good.

>

> >

>

> > > >

>

> >

>

> > > > The problem though is that I feel like he is " changed " not that the

whole

>

> >

>

> > > >ordeal is passed. He is now 7.5 months old and is not sitting up

unassisted.

>

> >

>

> > > >He will roll to get places but isn't crawling or pulling up (still a

little

>

> >

>

> > > >early for that). The biggest concern though is that he doesn't seem as

>

> >

>

> > > >talkative as he was. He used to babble and would go back and forth with

us if

>

> >

>

> > > >we talked to him. Now he seems to be a very serious baby. If you try to

get

>

> >

>

> > > >him to laugh, it takes a lot of effort. He will just stare at you with a

>

> >

>

> > > >serious face. He doesn't really babble with consonant sounds much any

more.

>

> >

>

> > > >

>

> >

>

> > > > Physically we don't notice any concerning symptoms. Skin is fine.

Bowels are

>

> >

>

> > > >normal.

>

> >

>

> > > >

>

> >

>

> > > > We are at a loss as to what to do now and we are very concerned.

>

> >

>

> > > >

>

> >

>

> > > > We have continued with the probiotic and I am still dairy free. I also

take

>

> >

>

> > > >the following supplements myself (so he gets benefit through breast

milk):

>

> >

>

> > > >multi, Metagenics Vessel Care, D3, mineral supplement, probiotic.

>

> >

>

> > > >

>

> >

>

> > > > What would you do at this point? I have considered eliminating gluten

as well

>

> >

>

> > > >but I honestly don't feel like I can do it. I am having a hard enough

time

>

> >

>

> > > >maintaining my weight while breastfeeding as is and am concerned that if

I

>

> >

>

> > > >restrict my diet further, it will be bad for my health and ultimately for

the

>

> >

>

> > > >baby as well.

>

> >

>

> > > >

>

> >

>

> > > > Sorry this is so long. Please give some advice if you can!

>

> >

>

> > > >

>

> >

>

> > >

>

> >

>

February 28, 2011

- I thought that MB12 wasn't absorbed well orally? My other kids get

subcu injections. Can we give the baby one of the shots or do you think he is

too young?

> > > >

> > > > This will probably be a bit long but if you could bear with me, I could

really

> > > >use some advice!

> > > >

> > > > A little background: My 5 year old DS is on the mild end of the autism

> > > >spectrum. My 3 year old DD has Down syndrome. I also have a 7.5 month

old DS.

> > > >We have not vaccinated the baby at all and do not plan to.

> > > >

> > > > Everything was going great up until about 3 months old. I am

breastfeeding and

> > > >he was doing great. No skin issues, no food issues, development on track

in all

> > > >areas. Sleeping well.

> > > >

> > > > Then when he was 3 months old, I got appendicitis. I needed an

emergency

> > > >appendectomy and was on a lot of pain killers in the hospital as well as

> > > >anesthesia for the surgery and IV antibiotics during the surgery. During

this

> > > >time, I was told by the anesthesiologist that I needed to " pump and dump "

the

> > > >milk for 24 hours from the surgery. I read some info on some

breastfeeding

> > > >sites that said that I didn't even need to " pump and dump " for that long

but I

> > > >wanted to be conservative and do what they said. I had some frozen

breast milk

> > > >which was fed to DS and then when we ran out, he got two bottles of

> > > >formula...his 1st ever formula.

> > > >

> > > > After the surgery, he started waking up at night more often. At first

we

> > > >blamed it on low milk supply due to the surgery. But then my supply was

back up

> > > >and he was still waking. We blamed it on teething and on growth spurts

but the

> > > >wakings continued to become more frequent.

> > > >

> > > > By the end of December (around 5.5 months), he was literally waking up

every

> > > >30-90 minutes at night and screaming hysterically. He would arch his

back like

> > > >he was in pain. I took him to the doctor twice to have him checked out.

> > > >Everything checked out fine...ear were fine. No signs of what could be

causing

> > > >it. Doctor wanted us to try Zantac in case it was silent reflux. He

showed no

> > > >signs of reflux at all but we tried it just in case. It made no

difference.

> > > >

> > > > Then we thought maybe the antibiotics from surgery messed with his belly

or

> > > >maybe the formula triggered a food allergy/intolerance (even though he

wasn't

> > > >showing classic symptoms). So I eliminated dairy from my diet and we

started

> > > >giving him a probiotic every day. The screaming and arching subsided.

> > > >

> > > > He now still gets up 2-3 times a night which is still more than before

but I

> > > >guess within the range of " normal " for a breastfed baby. I feel like he

is no

> > > >longer in pain when he wakes which is good.

> > > >

> > > > The problem though is that I feel like he is " changed " not that the

whole

> > > >ordeal is passed. He is now 7.5 months old and is not sitting up

unassisted.

> > > >He will roll to get places but isn't crawling or pulling up (still a

little

> > > >early for that). The biggest concern though is that he doesn't seem as

> > > >talkative as he was. He used to babble and would go back and forth with

us if

> > > >we talked to him. Now he seems to be a very serious baby. If you try to

get

> > > >him to laugh, it takes a lot of effort. He will just stare at you with a

> > > >serious face. He doesn't really babble with consonant sounds much any

more.

> > > >

> > > > Physically we don't notice any concerning symptoms. Skin is fine.

Bowels are

> > > >normal.

> > > >

> > > > We are at a loss as to what to do now and we are very concerned.

> > > >

> > > > We have continued with the probiotic and I am still dairy free. I also

take

> > > >the following supplements myself (so he gets benefit through breast

milk):

> > > >multi, Metagenics Vessel Care, D3, mineral supplement, probiotic.

> > > >

> > > > What would you do at this point? I have considered eliminating gluten

as well

> > > >but I honestly don't feel like I can do it. I am having a hard enough

time

> > > >maintaining my weight while breastfeeding as is and am concerned that if

I

> > > >restrict my diet further, it will be bad for my health and ultimately for

the

> > > >baby as well.

> > > >

> > > > Sorry this is so long. Please give some advice if you can!

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

February 28, 2011

It's not -- however, that being said, you don't need much. If you have gut

issues, chances are you aren't absorbing any - which is why you place it under

the tongue, which is very vascular. (Why our kids usually get shots, or use the

nasal spray -- because the uptake is available due the vascular nature of the

nose (nasal) and obviously, when you do shots, it gets in the blood stream.)

For Sam - because I don't see any issue with his gut (yet!?) -- I give them to

him in his mouth and shoot for under the tongue. If he swallows it, he probably

will get some there too.

I am uncomfortable giving shots to babies. (I just have a hard time with shots

in general - and having seen a few documentaries on vaccines, etc. I just can't

right now...) - I give shots (B12) to my brother (who is 26 - Autistic - PDD-NOS

designation) and he can tell me how he feels or if something hurts, etc. My son

(4 years) gets the sublingual and he chews it up and swallows it, and I know he

has/had gut issues, however, we see less and less deficient signs...so I know

it's working. However, if you feel like it's necessary, that's for you to

decide. It's just not for me, right now (not to say that later, I wouldn't

change my stance...)

One of the signs for B12 deficiency is sudden loss of speech, my son had a very

sudden loss of speech. Once we removed gluten and casein (dairy and wheat, all

forms) he said " Mom " for the first time in 6 months within 6 days on the diet.

Gluten/Casein create mucus in the gut/intestines, which prohibits the uptake of

B12. (the protein molecules are large and signal the brain to create mucus--

and then if you have leaky gut...well, you know the drill) - I didn't know that

at the time, but the more I read and understood what I was doing and why I was

doing it, we saw improvements generally quickly.

The sublingual forms (as well as the shots)take out the barrier of the

intestines (due to gut issues) and gets it into the blood stream. With vitamins

-- you get the same issue. It has to get uptake in the intestines, which is why

I started juicing. Juicing nutrients get into the blood stream via the stomach,

esophagus, mouth, etc...and is in the blood stream for utilization within 20

min, vs 3-4 hours with food or encapsulated vitamins. There is a reason to use

all of these things (as I do supp with vitamins) together to get constant

nutrition to the body. And if the gut is damaged -- it's important to get the

nutrition there so the body can heal itself.

I hope this answers your question...I sometimes get carried away.

laura:)

> > > > >

> > > > > This will probably be a bit long but if you could bear with me, I

could really

> > > > >use some advice!

> > > > >

> > > > > A little background: My 5 year old DS is on the mild end of the

autism

> > > > >spectrum. My 3 year old DD has Down syndrome. I also have a 7.5 month

old DS.

> > > > >We have not vaccinated the baby at all and do not plan to.

> > > > >

> > > > > Everything was going great up until about 3 months old. I am

breastfeeding and

> > > > >he was doing great. No skin issues, no food issues, development on

track in all

> > > > >areas. Sleeping well.

> > > > >

> > > > > Then when he was 3 months old, I got appendicitis. I needed an

emergency

> > > > >appendectomy and was on a lot of pain killers in the hospital as well

as

> > > > >anesthesia for the surgery and IV antibiotics during the surgery.

During this

> > > > >time, I was told by the anesthesiologist that I needed to " pump and

dump " the

> > > > >milk for 24 hours from the surgery. I read some info on some

breastfeeding

> > > > >sites that said that I didn't even need to " pump and dump " for that

long but I

> > > > >wanted to be conservative and do what they said. I had some frozen

breast milk

> > > > >which was fed to DS and then when we ran out, he got two bottles of

> > > > >formula...his 1st ever formula.

> > > > >

> > > > > After the surgery, he started waking up at night more often. At first

we

> > > > >blamed it on low milk supply due to the surgery. But then my supply

was back up

> > > > >and he was still waking. We blamed it on teething and on growth spurts

but the

> > > > >wakings continued to become more frequent.

> > > > >

> > > > > By the end of December (around 5.5 months), he was literally waking up

every

> > > > >30-90 minutes at night and screaming hysterically. He would arch his

back like

> > > > >he was in pain. I took him to the doctor twice to have him checked

out.

> > > > >Everything checked out fine...ear were fine. No signs of what could be

causing

> > > > >it. Doctor wanted us to try Zantac in case it was silent reflux. He

showed no

> > > > >signs of reflux at all but we tried it just in case. It made no

difference.

> > > > >

> > > > > Then we thought maybe the antibiotics from surgery messed with his

belly or

> > > > >maybe the formula triggered a food allergy/intolerance (even though he

wasn't

> > > > >showing classic symptoms). So I eliminated dairy from my diet and we

started

> > > > >giving him a probiotic every day. The screaming and arching subsided.

> > > > >

> > > > > He now still gets up 2-3 times a night which is still more than before

but I

> > > > >guess within the range of " normal " for a breastfed baby. I feel like

he is no

> > > > >longer in pain when he wakes which is good.

> > > > >

> > > > > The problem though is that I feel like he is " changed " not that the

whole

> > > > >ordeal is passed. He is now 7.5 months old and is not sitting up

unassisted.

> > > > >He will roll to get places but isn't crawling or pulling up (still a

little

> > > > >early for that). The biggest concern though is that he doesn't seem as

> > > > >talkative as he was. He used to babble and would go back and forth

with us if

> > > > >we talked to him. Now he seems to be a very serious baby. If you try

to get

> > > > >him to laugh, it takes a lot of effort. He will just stare at you with

a

> > > > >serious face. He doesn't really babble with consonant sounds much any

more.

> > > > >

> > > > > Physically we don't notice any concerning symptoms. Skin is fine.

Bowels are

> > > > >normal.

> > > > >

> > > > > We are at a loss as to what to do now and we are very concerned.

> > > > >

> > > > > We have continued with the probiotic and I am still dairy free. I

also take

> > > > >the following supplements myself (so he gets benefit through breast

milk):

> > > > >multi, Metagenics Vessel Care, D3, mineral supplement, probiotic.

> > > > >

> > > > > What would you do at this point? I have considered eliminating gluten

as well

> > > > >but I honestly don't feel like I can do it. I am having a hard enough

time

> > > > >maintaining my weight while breastfeeding as is and am concerned that

if I

> > > > >restrict my diet further, it will be bad for my health and ultimately

for the

> > > > >baby as well.

> > > > >

> > > > > Sorry this is so long. Please give some advice if you can!

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

February 28, 2011