Re: The news must be kidding me

[Guest guest]

WTF WTF WTF

I have absolutely no words for how cruel that b!%(# was to that poor girl.

" Water bonding " ???

Who are these therapists that suggested this? I hope they faced judicial

reckoning, too!

I wanna bitchslap that woman.

Sorry for the angry words...>.<

Holly

On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 1:24 PM, Girlscout Cowboy <

girlscout.cowboy@...> wrote:

>

>

> Check out this story guys. I cannot believe anyone would even consider

> letting this woman go home to her biological children. Whoa. Insert bad

> words here of your choice.

>

>

http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/home/51036982-76/killpack-girl-jennete-parole.html.\

csp?page=1

>

>

[Guest guest]

Yeah ditto. I'm horrified. And when the dad said the little girl said her

" heart would break in 2 " I thought - did she really say that? I need to hear

her say it because I don't believe him, I think he wanted her to say it but

she didn't really.

Ugh what an awful story.

On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 12:29 PM, Holly Byers

wrote:

> WTF WTF WTF

> I have absolutely no words for how cruel that b!%(# was to that poor girl.

> " Water bonding " ???

> Who are these therapists that suggested this? I hope they faced judicial

> reckoning, too!

>

> I wanna bitchslap that woman.

>

> Sorry for the angry words...>.<

> Holly

>

> On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 1:24 PM, Girlscout Cowboy <

> girlscout.cowboy@...> wrote:

>

> >

> >

> > Check out this story guys. I cannot believe anyone would even consider

> > letting this woman go home to her biological children. Whoa. Insert bad

> > words here of your choice.

> >

> >

>

http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/home/51036982-76/killpack-girl-jennete-parole.html.\

csp?page=1

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Holy Freaking Cow.

It seems so obvious to me that this woman has psychopathy (able to assume a mask

of sanity and charm in public, lack of empathy, cold affect when torturing the

child) and had designated this adopted child as " all black " , probably because of

the child's attachment disorder. The child was not giving this woman enough

narcissistic strokes to her ego (not loving enough because of attachment

disorder) so the woman tortured the child repeatedly to punish her for not

showing mommy enough love.

Can you say " no way in Hell " should this woman be around her other children? Or

any children, for that matter!!?

Now that the poor little scapegoated child has been tortured to death, one of

her bio-kids will probably take her place as the " all-bad child " if momster

dearest is allowed to go home. My bet is that it would be the youngest.

The smaller ones are easier to hold down; the older ones can run away or fight

back, or might tell.

God, please help that judge to make the right decision and protect those kids

from that woman.

-Annie

>

> Check out this story guys. I cannot believe anyone would even consider

> letting this woman go home to her biological children. Whoa. Insert bad

> words here of your choice.

>

http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/home/51036982-76/killpack-girl-jennete-parole.html.\

csp?page=1

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Have you guys heard of this attachment disorder? I'm going to look it up

I'll let you know.

On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 1:45 PM, anuria67854 wrote:

>

>

> Holy Freaking Cow.

>

> It seems so obvious to me that this woman has psychopathy (able to assume a

> mask of sanity and charm in public, lack of empathy, cold affect when

> torturing the child) and had designated this adopted child as " all black " ,

> probably because of the child's attachment disorder. The child was not

> giving this woman enough narcissistic strokes to her ego (not loving enough

> because of attachment disorder) so the woman tortured the child repeatedly

> to punish her for not showing mommy enough love.

>

> Can you say " no way in Hell " should this woman be around her other

> children? Or any children, for that matter!!?

>

> Now that the poor little scapegoated child has been tortured to death, one

> of her bio-kids will probably take her place as the " all-bad child " if

> momster dearest is allowed to go home. My bet is that it would be the

> youngest.

>

> The smaller ones are easier to hold down; the older ones can run away or

> fight back, or might tell.

>

> God, please help that judge to make the right decision and protect those

> kids from that woman.

>

> -Annie

>

>

>

> >

> > Check out this story guys. I cannot believe anyone would even consider

> > letting this woman go home to her biological children. Whoa. Insert bad

> > words here of your choice.

> >

>

http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/home/51036982-76/killpack-girl-jennete-parole.html.\

csp?page=1

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Here's the info on the attachment disorder

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reactive_attachment_disorder

On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 1:47 PM, Girlscout Cowboy <

girlscout.cowboy@...> wrote:

> Have you guys heard of this attachment disorder? I'm going to look it up

> I'll let you know.

>

> On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 1:45 PM, anuria67854 wrote:

>

>>

>>

>> Holy Freaking Cow.

>>

>> It seems so obvious to me that this woman has psychopathy (able to assume

>> a mask of sanity and charm in public, lack of empathy, cold affect when

>> torturing the child) and had designated this adopted child as " all black " ,

>> probably because of the child's attachment disorder. The child was not

>> giving this woman enough narcissistic strokes to her ego (not loving enough

>> because of attachment disorder) so the woman tortured the child repeatedly

>> to punish her for not showing mommy enough love.

>>

>> Can you say " no way in Hell " should this woman be around her other

>> children? Or any children, for that matter!!?

>>

>> Now that the poor little scapegoated child has been tortured to death, one

>> of her bio-kids will probably take her place as the " all-bad child " if

>> momster dearest is allowed to go home. My bet is that it would be the

>> youngest.

>>

>> The smaller ones are easier to hold down; the older ones can run away or

>> fight back, or might tell.

>>

>> God, please help that judge to make the right decision and protect those

>> kids from that woman.

>>

>> -Annie

>>

>>

>>

>> >

>> > Check out this story guys. I cannot believe anyone would even consider

>> > letting this woman go home to her biological children. Whoa. Insert bad

>> > words here of your choice.

>> >

>>

http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/home/51036982-76/killpack-girl-jennete-parole.html.\

csp?page=1

>> >

>> >

>> >

[Guest guest]

OMG! " It will never happen again " (until the next time). This is sad and just

ten kinds of wrong!

>

> Check out this story guys. I cannot believe anyone would even consider

> letting this woman go home to her biological children. Whoa. Insert bad

> words here of your choice.

>

http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/home/51036982-76/killpack-girl-jennete-parole.html.\

csp?page=1

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Oh hell no! That woman needs to serve every last second of her prison

sentence, and frankly, her sentence isn't long enough. Life in prison isn't

long enough.

Those therapists who said this was some kind of proper punishment... someone

needs to slap them silly. Grrrrrr.

Ok, sorry... I'm obviously upset. I remember hearing about this case when

it first happened. I seriously hope they leave that woman in jail where she

belongs. She KILLED an innocent child FFS.

I'll shut up now.

Mia

>

[Guest guest]

Oh hell no! That woman needs to serve every last second of her prison

sentence, and frankly, her sentence isn't long enough. Life in prison isn't

long enough.

Those therapists who said this was some kind of proper punishment... someone

needs to slap them silly. Grrrrrr.

Ok, sorry... I'm obviously upset. I remember hearing about this case when

it first happened. I seriously hope they leave that woman in jail where she

belongs. She KILLED an innocent child FFS.

I'll shut up now.

Mia

>

[Guest guest]

Oh hell no! That woman needs to serve every last second of her prison

sentence, and frankly, her sentence isn't long enough. Life in prison isn't

long enough.

Those therapists who said this was some kind of proper punishment... someone

needs to slap them silly. Grrrrrr.

Ok, sorry... I'm obviously upset. I remember hearing about this case when

it first happened. I seriously hope they leave that woman in jail where she

belongs. She KILLED an innocent child FFS.

I'll shut up now.

Mia

>

[Guest guest]

Yeah,I've read about RAD being used as an excuse or a reason in case after case

when adopted (or foster) children have been killed by their adoptive

parents.It's horrendously tragic.

>

> Have you guys heard of this attachment disorder? I'm going to look it up

> I'll let you know.

[Guest guest]

Yeah,I've read about RAD being used as an excuse or a reason in case after case

when adopted (or foster) children have been killed by their adoptive

parents.It's horrendously tragic.

>

> Have you guys heard of this attachment disorder? I'm going to look it up

> I'll let you know.

[Guest guest]

Yeah,I've read about RAD being used as an excuse or a reason in case after case

when adopted (or foster) children have been killed by their adoptive

parents.It's horrendously tragic.

>

> Have you guys heard of this attachment disorder? I'm going to look it up

> I'll let you know.

[Guest guest]

Thiw might be triggering,but check out what the neighbors said about this

" mother " :

Neighbors say mom tough on 4-year-old

Water death: Witnesses testify the parents treated the victim more harshly than

their biological daughter

By Hunt

The Salt Lake Tribune

PROVO - and Jennete Killpack, on trial for allegedly killing their

4-year-old adopted daughter by making her drink excessive amounts of water,

treated the child much differently - and more harshly - than their biological

daughter, according to testimony Friday.

Cassandra Killpack was alternately deprived of food and forced to eat, and

endured hours-long timeouts for her purported bad behavior, the witnesses said.

In contrast, there were few rules for Cassandra's 7-year-old sister, who, said

one witness, was " free to play and roam and be a kid. "

None of the witnesses could recall seeing Cassandra do anything to warrant the

discipline meted out regularly by her adoptive parents, who claim the girl threw

tantrums, destroyed property and was unable to bond with them.

The testimony is part of the prosecution's theory that Cassandra's death was the

culmination of long-standing abuse.

On June 9, 2002, her parents allegedly forced Cassandra to drink cup after cup

of water as punishment for stealing a sip of her baby sister's juice.

The excessive amounts of water caused the girl's sodium levels to fall, and her

brain swelled to fatal proportions, according to medical evidence.

Charged with second-degree felony child-abuse homicide, the Killpacks claim they

were merely following the advice of counselors from the now-defunct Cascade

Center for Family Growth.

The Springville couple have told police the girl suffered from

reactive-attachment disorder, which can occur when babies fail to bond with

their birth mothers. Cascade has denied recommending forced-water drinking as a

cure.

Cassandra was brought to Utah from South Carolina in April 1999 by an adoption

agency. parent Stauffer testified she was " a normal, happy young

girl. " The Killpacks adopted her in July of that year.

Other witnesses agreed Cassandra began her life with the Killpacks as a cheerful

and outgoing girl, but said she became quiet, withdrawn and fearful.

" She started out as a loving, warm, affectionate child, " testified friend and

neighbor Wilkey.

" By the time they moved [just before Cassandra's death], there was nothing

there. No expression, no warmth - nothing. "

Wilkey said Cassandra would " let down and be a kid " when away from her parents.

" But she had a lot of fear when they were around, " she said.

Another friend and neighbor, Bobbi Condie, said the " rambunctious and lively "

Cassandra eventually turned " very guarded . . . her expression became blank. "

Cassandra spent hours in her room as punishment, said Condie, who once saw her

forced to stand in a corner with her hands over her head until hands and legs

were shaking.

Friend and neighbor Dale Green recalled an incident where everyone was eating

ice cream except Cassandra, because her mother forbade it.

" I told [Jennete Killpack] that wasn't nice, " he said.

But neighbor Sumsion said she saw Jennete Killpack force spoonful after

spoonful of food into Cassandra's mouth, until the girl's cheeks puffed out.

On cross-examination, defense attorney Esplin said that Jennete Killpack

showed her love for Cassandra, an African-American, by spending hours braiding

her hair into corn rows.

Esplin also asked witnesses if they were aware Cassandra was in therapy and that

the discipline had been suggested by counselors.

But there was testimony that Jennete Killpack's actions went well beyond

discipline.

Andra Green testified that Jennete admitted hitting Cassandra in the head with a

spoon hard enough to cause bleeding.

Wilkey testified that Jennete Killpack showed her bruises on Cassandra's neck

and said she had choked the girl because she refused to eat.

According to Wilkey, Jennete Killpack had once said of Cassandra: " I'm not sure

that I want her. "

Source: sltrib.com

--

>

> Check out this story guys. I cannot believe anyone would even consider

> letting this woman go home to her biological children. Whoa. Insert bad

> words here of your choice.

>

http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/home/51036982-76/killpack-girl-jennete-parole.html.\

csp?page=1

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Here's an article about the individual who was providing " attachment therapy "

for this poor hapless child:

Date: 2003-08-15

By CHRIS COLLINS

The Baker City Herald

Oregon has revoked the license of a marriage and family therapist who treated

clients in Baker County, calling techniques he used to treat children " a danger

to the public. "

A. Reber was found to have used an unapproved style of " holding therapy "

that included " poking clients, pushing hard enough to cause vomiting and

screaming in their faces, " according to the Oregon Board of Licensed

Professional Counselors and Therapists.

In one example included in the licensing board's order, Reber was said to have

wrapped a boy in a sheet, laid on top of him and pushed his fingers into the

boy's chest. at the end of the session, Reber made a fist and pushed it hard int

the boy's rib cage, the report stated.

Three of the child clients the board said were mistreated by Reber were in

foster care with the Oregon department of Human Resources. Reber was found to

have used the " holding therapy " on them after agreeing with DHS officials not to

use the technique, according to the board's order. Investigators from the state

Department of Justice interviewed five victims, four of whom were children, said

Neely, Department of Justice spokesman.

The licensing board concluded that Reber's violations were " so egregious and

reprehensible " that to allow him to continue practicing in Oregon " would be an

abrogation of the board's responsibility to regulate the practice of counseling

therapy and would not protect the public. "

Betty Huntsman of Baker City, who has provided long-term foster care to nine

children over the past 15 years, said she was glad Reber would no longer be

allowed to work in Oregon.

" I'm just happy he doesn't have a chance to hurt any more of Oregon's children, "

said Huntsman, who is familiar with the cases. " They would come out of therapy

with bruises-and that's not right. " Because of the abusive treatment, counseling

is no longer an option for some of the children involved, Huntsman said.

" The children cannot have any counseling and trust the counselor. And these are

children who can benefit from counseling, " she said. " The kids have to get out

of their mires themselves because they cannot go to counseling. "

Reber had practiced full time at Mountain Valley Mental Health Clinic in Baker

City from Sept. 23, 1996, to July 2001 when he began working for Mountain Valley

under contract for 12 hours a week, said Tim Mahoney, Mountain Valley director.

Reber also had a private practice in La Grande. He provided therapy for adults

and children.

" To my knowledge there were never any allegations stemming from his contact with

Mountain Valley Mental Health that related to the loss of his license, " Mahone

said. Reber provided training for the DHS foster parent certification program in

Baker County from the fall of 200 until June 30, 2001, said Todd Siex, DHS

Service Delivery area manager for Baker, Union and Wallowa counties.

Reber left the area in November 2001 to work for the Cascade Center for Family

Growth in the Salt Lake City area, Mahoney said. He is no longer employed there,

a spokeswoman at the center said.

Efforts to contact him for this story were unsuccessful.

Holding therapy when used appropriately, is a recognized form of practice, the

licensing board stated. It is used with children diagnosed as having attachment

disorder, which was Reber's area of expertise, Siex said.

Children with attachment disorder have no developed adequate bonding

relationships with caregivers during their first years of life and later have

trouble forming and maintaining relationships with others throughout life.

The Cascade Center for Family Growth at Orem, Utah, advocates holding therapy in

combination with other treatment for children with attachment disorder. Holding

therapy is described this way on the center's Web site:

The therapy allows " a child who has been severely abused and neglected to

verbally express extreme fear, anger and sadness in an environment that is safe

and nurturing. These children do not believe that an adult can hear the pan they

feel inside and still choose to love them and care for them. Holding therapy

allows the expression in a safe environment, of the extreme trauma they

experienced in their birth home. Holding therapy should only be practiced by

trained therapists. "

The center was initially implicated in the deaths of two children whose parents

were charged with criminal child abuse homicide. the most recent case was the

death of Cassandra Killpack, a 4-year-old whose parents allegedly forced her to

drink large amounts of water over a short period of time.

The center denies recommending such treatment; no charges were ever filed

against the center. In another example of Reber's therapy, the licensing board

said that in treating a girl for anxiety, stress management, sexual abuse,

mental anguish and panic attacks, Reber wrapped the child in a blanket, touched

her and laid across her. He refused to stop when the client asked him to,

according to the report.

In treating two other children, from about1999 through 2000, Reber wrapped them

in a sheet and blanket and laid on top of them, pushing his elbow into their

abdomens or stomach areas so hard that at times the children vomited, the report

stated. As part of the treatment, he also occasionally required the children to

try to free themselves from the tightly wrapped blankets, the report said.

The board also found that Reber would confront his patients by berating them and

raising his voice near their heads.

In treating another boy for fire-starting behavior, the report said Reber again

used holding therapy. the child's parent was instructed to use a treatment

protocol that included allowing the boy to repeatedly light matches.

" The use of holding therapy for the specific fire-starting behavior was not done

with a thorough assessment, treatment plan or informed consent, " the board said.

Reber also was found to have misrepresented facts about his Oregon license while

applying for licensure before the Utah Board of Marriage and Family Therapists,

the report said. he told the Utah board that his discipline matter in Oregon was

resolved when it wasn't, and he said he had not sent a letter to the Oregon

board, when he had, the report said. Those acts violated the " highest standards

of the professional integrity and competence required of a therapist, " the board

said.

Reber held a temporary license as a marriage and family therapist in Utah, from

Sept. 15, 1995, until May 5, 2001, when his license expired, and he failed to

file a renewal, according to the Utah Division of Occupational and Professional

Licensing.

The Oregon licensing board's report stated that in a review of the agency's file

on Reber, Dr. Dave Ziegler, a licensed psychologist, said Reber used techniques

as described by the child client that `were physically intrusive, controversial

and not recognized in the professional community and that there was a complete

absence in (Reber's) file of any documentation on the use of such techniques. "

The board found that his techniques " were intended to cause psychological and

physical pain, did not advance the welfare and best interests of the client, and

do not respect the rights of the client. "

Reber first was served with a notice of the proposed license revocation on July

12, 2001, according to the order. A first amended notice of revocation was

served on Oct. 1, 2002, and a second notice was served on Dec. 30, 2002. On Feb.

13, 2003, the third amended notice of proposed license revocation was served.

Reber then requested a hearing on the matter and was referred to the hearing

panel. the case was set to go before the panel on July 14-15, but instead, Reber

withdrew his request for a hearing and the default order was issued on July 22.

---

>

> Check out this story guys. I cannot believe anyone would even consider

> letting this woman go home to her biological children. Whoa. Insert bad

> words here of your choice.

>

http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/home/51036982-76/killpack-girl-jennete-parole.html.\

csp?page=1

[Guest guest]

Here's an article about the individual who was providing " attachment therapy "

for this poor hapless child:

Date: 2003-08-15

By CHRIS COLLINS

The Baker City Herald

Oregon has revoked the license of a marriage and family therapist who treated

clients in Baker County, calling techniques he used to treat children " a danger

to the public. "

A. Reber was found to have used an unapproved style of " holding therapy "

that included " poking clients, pushing hard enough to cause vomiting and

screaming in their faces, " according to the Oregon Board of Licensed

Professional Counselors and Therapists.

In one example included in the licensing board's order, Reber was said to have

wrapped a boy in a sheet, laid on top of him and pushed his fingers into the

boy's chest. at the end of the session, Reber made a fist and pushed it hard int

the boy's rib cage, the report stated.

Three of the child clients the board said were mistreated by Reber were in

foster care with the Oregon department of Human Resources. Reber was found to

have used the " holding therapy " on them after agreeing with DHS officials not to

use the technique, according to the board's order. Investigators from the state

Department of Justice interviewed five victims, four of whom were children, said

Neely, Department of Justice spokesman.

The licensing board concluded that Reber's violations were " so egregious and

reprehensible " that to allow him to continue practicing in Oregon " would be an

abrogation of the board's responsibility to regulate the practice of counseling

therapy and would not protect the public. "

Betty Huntsman of Baker City, who has provided long-term foster care to nine

children over the past 15 years, said she was glad Reber would no longer be

allowed to work in Oregon.

" I'm just happy he doesn't have a chance to hurt any more of Oregon's children, "

said Huntsman, who is familiar with the cases. " They would come out of therapy

with bruises-and that's not right. " Because of the abusive treatment, counseling

is no longer an option for some of the children involved, Huntsman said.

" The children cannot have any counseling and trust the counselor. And these are

children who can benefit from counseling, " she said. " The kids have to get out

of their mires themselves because they cannot go to counseling. "

Reber had practiced full time at Mountain Valley Mental Health Clinic in Baker

City from Sept. 23, 1996, to July 2001 when he began working for Mountain Valley

under contract for 12 hours a week, said Tim Mahoney, Mountain Valley director.

Reber also had a private practice in La Grande. He provided therapy for adults

and children.

" To my knowledge there were never any allegations stemming from his contact with

Mountain Valley Mental Health that related to the loss of his license, " Mahone

said. Reber provided training for the DHS foster parent certification program in

Baker County from the fall of 200 until June 30, 2001, said Todd Siex, DHS

Service Delivery area manager for Baker, Union and Wallowa counties.

Reber left the area in November 2001 to work for the Cascade Center for Family

Growth in the Salt Lake City area, Mahoney said. He is no longer employed there,

a spokeswoman at the center said.

Efforts to contact him for this story were unsuccessful.

Holding therapy when used appropriately, is a recognized form of practice, the

licensing board stated. It is used with children diagnosed as having attachment

disorder, which was Reber's area of expertise, Siex said.

Children with attachment disorder have no developed adequate bonding

relationships with caregivers during their first years of life and later have

trouble forming and maintaining relationships with others throughout life.

The Cascade Center for Family Growth at Orem, Utah, advocates holding therapy in

combination with other treatment for children with attachment disorder. Holding

therapy is described this way on the center's Web site:

The therapy allows " a child who has been severely abused and neglected to

verbally express extreme fear, anger and sadness in an environment that is safe

and nurturing. These children do not believe that an adult can hear the pan they

feel inside and still choose to love them and care for them. Holding therapy

allows the expression in a safe environment, of the extreme trauma they

experienced in their birth home. Holding therapy should only be practiced by

trained therapists. "

The center was initially implicated in the deaths of two children whose parents

were charged with criminal child abuse homicide. the most recent case was the

death of Cassandra Killpack, a 4-year-old whose parents allegedly forced her to

drink large amounts of water over a short period of time.

The center denies recommending such treatment; no charges were ever filed

against the center. In another example of Reber's therapy, the licensing board

said that in treating a girl for anxiety, stress management, sexual abuse,

mental anguish and panic attacks, Reber wrapped the child in a blanket, touched

her and laid across her. He refused to stop when the client asked him to,

according to the report.

In treating two other children, from about1999 through 2000, Reber wrapped them

in a sheet and blanket and laid on top of them, pushing his elbow into their

abdomens or stomach areas so hard that at times the children vomited, the report

stated. As part of the treatment, he also occasionally required the children to

try to free themselves from the tightly wrapped blankets, the report said.

The board also found that Reber would confront his patients by berating them and

raising his voice near their heads.

In treating another boy for fire-starting behavior, the report said Reber again

used holding therapy. the child's parent was instructed to use a treatment

protocol that included allowing the boy to repeatedly light matches.

" The use of holding therapy for the specific fire-starting behavior was not done

with a thorough assessment, treatment plan or informed consent, " the board said.

Reber also was found to have misrepresented facts about his Oregon license while

applying for licensure before the Utah Board of Marriage and Family Therapists,

the report said. he told the Utah board that his discipline matter in Oregon was

resolved when it wasn't, and he said he had not sent a letter to the Oregon

board, when he had, the report said. Those acts violated the " highest standards

of the professional integrity and competence required of a therapist, " the board

said.

Reber held a temporary license as a marriage and family therapist in Utah, from

Sept. 15, 1995, until May 5, 2001, when his license expired, and he failed to

file a renewal, according to the Utah Division of Occupational and Professional

Licensing.

The Oregon licensing board's report stated that in a review of the agency's file

on Reber, Dr. Dave Ziegler, a licensed psychologist, said Reber used techniques

as described by the child client that `were physically intrusive, controversial

and not recognized in the professional community and that there was a complete

absence in (Reber's) file of any documentation on the use of such techniques. "

The board found that his techniques " were intended to cause psychological and

physical pain, did not advance the welfare and best interests of the client, and

do not respect the rights of the client. "

Reber first was served with a notice of the proposed license revocation on July

12, 2001, according to the order. A first amended notice of revocation was

served on Oct. 1, 2002, and a second notice was served on Dec. 30, 2002. On Feb.

13, 2003, the third amended notice of proposed license revocation was served.

Reber then requested a hearing on the matter and was referred to the hearing

panel. the case was set to go before the panel on July 14-15, but instead, Reber

withdrew his request for a hearing and the default order was issued on July 22.

---

>

> Check out this story guys. I cannot believe anyone would even consider

> letting this woman go home to her biological children. Whoa. Insert bad

> words here of your choice.

>

http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/home/51036982-76/killpack-girl-jennete-parole.html.\

csp?page=1

[Guest guest]

Here's an article about the individual who was providing " attachment therapy "

for this poor hapless child:

Date: 2003-08-15

By CHRIS COLLINS

The Baker City Herald

Oregon has revoked the license of a marriage and family therapist who treated

clients in Baker County, calling techniques he used to treat children " a danger

to the public. "

A. Reber was found to have used an unapproved style of " holding therapy "

that included " poking clients, pushing hard enough to cause vomiting and

screaming in their faces, " according to the Oregon Board of Licensed

Professional Counselors and Therapists.

In one example included in the licensing board's order, Reber was said to have

wrapped a boy in a sheet, laid on top of him and pushed his fingers into the

boy's chest. at the end of the session, Reber made a fist and pushed it hard int

the boy's rib cage, the report stated.

Three of the child clients the board said were mistreated by Reber were in

foster care with the Oregon department of Human Resources. Reber was found to

have used the " holding therapy " on them after agreeing with DHS officials not to

use the technique, according to the board's order. Investigators from the state

Department of Justice interviewed five victims, four of whom were children, said

Neely, Department of Justice spokesman.

The licensing board concluded that Reber's violations were " so egregious and

reprehensible " that to allow him to continue practicing in Oregon " would be an

abrogation of the board's responsibility to regulate the practice of counseling

therapy and would not protect the public. "

Betty Huntsman of Baker City, who has provided long-term foster care to nine

children over the past 15 years, said she was glad Reber would no longer be

allowed to work in Oregon.

" I'm just happy he doesn't have a chance to hurt any more of Oregon's children, "

said Huntsman, who is familiar with the cases. " They would come out of therapy

with bruises-and that's not right. " Because of the abusive treatment, counseling

is no longer an option for some of the children involved, Huntsman said.

" The children cannot have any counseling and trust the counselor. And these are

children who can benefit from counseling, " she said. " The kids have to get out

of their mires themselves because they cannot go to counseling. "

Reber had practiced full time at Mountain Valley Mental Health Clinic in Baker

City from Sept. 23, 1996, to July 2001 when he began working for Mountain Valley

under contract for 12 hours a week, said Tim Mahoney, Mountain Valley director.

Reber also had a private practice in La Grande. He provided therapy for adults

and children.

" To my knowledge there were never any allegations stemming from his contact with

Mountain Valley Mental Health that related to the loss of his license, " Mahone

said. Reber provided training for the DHS foster parent certification program in

Baker County from the fall of 200 until June 30, 2001, said Todd Siex, DHS

Service Delivery area manager for Baker, Union and Wallowa counties.

Reber left the area in November 2001 to work for the Cascade Center for Family

Growth in the Salt Lake City area, Mahoney said. He is no longer employed there,

a spokeswoman at the center said.

Efforts to contact him for this story were unsuccessful.

Holding therapy when used appropriately, is a recognized form of practice, the

licensing board stated. It is used with children diagnosed as having attachment

disorder, which was Reber's area of expertise, Siex said.

Children with attachment disorder have no developed adequate bonding

relationships with caregivers during their first years of life and later have

trouble forming and maintaining relationships with others throughout life.

The Cascade Center for Family Growth at Orem, Utah, advocates holding therapy in

combination with other treatment for children with attachment disorder. Holding

therapy is described this way on the center's Web site:

The therapy allows " a child who has been severely abused and neglected to

verbally express extreme fear, anger and sadness in an environment that is safe

and nurturing. These children do not believe that an adult can hear the pan they

feel inside and still choose to love them and care for them. Holding therapy

allows the expression in a safe environment, of the extreme trauma they

experienced in their birth home. Holding therapy should only be practiced by

trained therapists. "

The center was initially implicated in the deaths of two children whose parents

were charged with criminal child abuse homicide. the most recent case was the

death of Cassandra Killpack, a 4-year-old whose parents allegedly forced her to

drink large amounts of water over a short period of time.

The center denies recommending such treatment; no charges were ever filed

against the center. In another example of Reber's therapy, the licensing board

said that in treating a girl for anxiety, stress management, sexual abuse,

mental anguish and panic attacks, Reber wrapped the child in a blanket, touched

her and laid across her. He refused to stop when the client asked him to,

according to the report.

In treating two other children, from about1999 through 2000, Reber wrapped them

in a sheet and blanket and laid on top of them, pushing his elbow into their

abdomens or stomach areas so hard that at times the children vomited, the report

stated. As part of the treatment, he also occasionally required the children to

try to free themselves from the tightly wrapped blankets, the report said.

The board also found that Reber would confront his patients by berating them and

raising his voice near their heads.

In treating another boy for fire-starting behavior, the report said Reber again

used holding therapy. the child's parent was instructed to use a treatment

protocol that included allowing the boy to repeatedly light matches.

" The use of holding therapy for the specific fire-starting behavior was not done

with a thorough assessment, treatment plan or informed consent, " the board said.

Reber also was found to have misrepresented facts about his Oregon license while

applying for licensure before the Utah Board of Marriage and Family Therapists,

the report said. he told the Utah board that his discipline matter in Oregon was

resolved when it wasn't, and he said he had not sent a letter to the Oregon

board, when he had, the report said. Those acts violated the " highest standards

of the professional integrity and competence required of a therapist, " the board

said.

Reber held a temporary license as a marriage and family therapist in Utah, from

Sept. 15, 1995, until May 5, 2001, when his license expired, and he failed to

file a renewal, according to the Utah Division of Occupational and Professional

Licensing.

The Oregon licensing board's report stated that in a review of the agency's file

on Reber, Dr. Dave Ziegler, a licensed psychologist, said Reber used techniques

as described by the child client that `were physically intrusive, controversial

and not recognized in the professional community and that there was a complete

absence in (Reber's) file of any documentation on the use of such techniques. "

The board found that his techniques " were intended to cause psychological and

physical pain, did not advance the welfare and best interests of the client, and

do not respect the rights of the client. "

Reber first was served with a notice of the proposed license revocation on July

12, 2001, according to the order. A first amended notice of revocation was

served on Oct. 1, 2002, and a second notice was served on Dec. 30, 2002. On Feb.

13, 2003, the third amended notice of proposed license revocation was served.

Reber then requested a hearing on the matter and was referred to the hearing

panel. the case was set to go before the panel on July 14-15, but instead, Reber

withdrew his request for a hearing and the default order was issued on July 22.

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> Check out this story guys. I cannot believe anyone would even consider

> letting this woman go home to her biological children. Whoa. Insert bad

> words here of your choice.

>

http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/home/51036982-76/killpack-girl-jennete-parole.html.\

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[Guest guest]

But the adoptive parents of this child blame the " therapy " center and deny

direct responsibility for her death:

Killpack admits she bit her child

By Hyde

Deseret Morning News

PROVO - Cassandra Killpack didn't want any more water.

As her mother tried to force more past her clenched teeth, the 4-year-old began

kicking and screaming. Then she spit some water in her adoptive mother's face.

Jennete

Killpack snapped.

" I leaned over to bite her, " Killpack said in a police interview on June 23,

2002, two weeks after her daughter's death. " . . . I put my teeth on her and

started to bite down. And I thought, 'Oh no, I can't do this.' "

On Wednesday, prosecutors in the child-abuse homicide case played a videotape of

that interview, as well as an interview between Killpack and

then-Springville Police investigator Dean Pettersson. Prosecutors also called

its final medical expert - Dr. Arieff, a nephrologist who specializes in

water intoxication. Arieff

agreed with another doctor who testified Tuesday that Cassandra was forced to

drink about one gallon of water.

That much water caused her brain to swell beyond the capacity of her skull, her

lungs to fill with water and the sodium levels in her blood to drop to fatal

levels. Cassandra died June 9, 2002.

" One can't drink that much water without becoming comatose or (having a

seizure), " Arieff said. " It had to be forced. "

In both police interviews jurors watched Wednesday, the Killpacks said they were

only trying to help their daughter, who had been diagnosed with reactive

attachment disorder, a mental illness.

Jennete Killpack said she came up with the water-discipline method from

conversations with therapists, family members and a book by , a

well-known advocate of holding therapy, a controversial form of therapy

practiced by some therapists at Cascade Center for Family Growth.

The defense maintains the Killpacks learned the water-discipline technique at

Cascade, which is now defunct. But during the taped interview Jennete Killpack

said she first used water as a punishment a week before she first went to

Cascade. When she brought it up with a therapist there, she said she was

encouraged to keep doing it.

She also said much of the clinic's therapy, which was directed by a

self-described pastor who had no license to practice in Utah, involved pushing

the girl to her limits. On one occasion, she said, Cascade therapists made

Cassandra kick a wall 100 times, and if she stopped she was forced to jump up

and down. The girl was drenched in sweat by the end of the session and near

dehydration, her mother said.

" These people pushed my daughter, and if I would've been smart enough I would've

stopped it, " she said.

In the interview, Killpack also blamed Cascade for his daughter's death,

as well as Primary Children's Medical Center and the paramedics who first

arrived to treat her.

He acknowledged that mistakes were made - including an incident three months

before in which his wife hit Cassandra in the head with a spoon and drew blood -

but that the girl did not die from anything they had done.

" The bottom line is we were not responsible for her death. The answer was not

taking her to Cascade, " he said in the police interview.

According to Killpack's own research, the girl died from heat exhaustion and

dehydration as a result of intensive therapy at Cascade. But Arieff, Wednesday's

medical expert, said that was not the case, and that there was nothing doctors

did that worsened Cassandra's condition.

" Before anybody did much of anything, she was gone, " he said. The prosecution

will call its final witness Friday. The defense is expected to rest Oct. 14.

Source: deseretnews.com

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>

> Check out this story guys. I cannot believe anyone would even consider

> letting this woman go home to her biological children. Whoa. Insert bad

> words here of your choice.

>

http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/home/51036982-76/killpack-girl-jennete-parole.html.\

csp?page=1

>

>

[Guest guest]

But the adoptive parents of this child blame the " therapy " center and deny

direct responsibility for her death:

Killpack admits she bit her child

By Hyde

Deseret Morning News

PROVO - Cassandra Killpack didn't want any more water.

As her mother tried to force more past her clenched teeth, the 4-year-old began

kicking and screaming. Then she spit some water in her adoptive mother's face.

Jennete

Killpack snapped.

" I leaned over to bite her, " Killpack said in a police interview on June 23,

2002, two weeks after her daughter's death. " . . . I put my teeth on her and

started to bite down. And I thought, 'Oh no, I can't do this.' "

On Wednesday, prosecutors in the child-abuse homicide case played a videotape of

that interview, as well as an interview between Killpack and

then-Springville Police investigator Dean Pettersson. Prosecutors also called

its final medical expert - Dr. Arieff, a nephrologist who specializes in

water intoxication. Arieff

agreed with another doctor who testified Tuesday that Cassandra was forced to

drink about one gallon of water.

That much water caused her brain to swell beyond the capacity of her skull, her

lungs to fill with water and the sodium levels in her blood to drop to fatal

levels. Cassandra died June 9, 2002.

" One can't drink that much water without becoming comatose or (having a

seizure), " Arieff said. " It had to be forced. "

In both police interviews jurors watched Wednesday, the Killpacks said they were

only trying to help their daughter, who had been diagnosed with reactive

attachment disorder, a mental illness.

Jennete Killpack said she came up with the water-discipline method from

conversations with therapists, family members and a book by , a

well-known advocate of holding therapy, a controversial form of therapy

practiced by some therapists at Cascade Center for Family Growth.

The defense maintains the Killpacks learned the water-discipline technique at

Cascade, which is now defunct. But during the taped interview Jennete Killpack

said she first used water as a punishment a week before she first went to

Cascade. When she brought it up with a therapist there, she said she was

encouraged to keep doing it.

She also said much of the clinic's therapy, which was directed by a

self-described pastor who had no license to practice in Utah, involved pushing

the girl to her limits. On one occasion, she said, Cascade therapists made

Cassandra kick a wall 100 times, and if she stopped she was forced to jump up

and down. The girl was drenched in sweat by the end of the session and near

dehydration, her mother said.

" These people pushed my daughter, and if I would've been smart enough I would've

stopped it, " she said.

In the interview, Killpack also blamed Cascade for his daughter's death,

as well as Primary Children's Medical Center and the paramedics who first

arrived to treat her.

He acknowledged that mistakes were made - including an incident three months

before in which his wife hit Cassandra in the head with a spoon and drew blood -

but that the girl did not die from anything they had done.

" The bottom line is we were not responsible for her death. The answer was not

taking her to Cascade, " he said in the police interview.

According to Killpack's own research, the girl died from heat exhaustion and

dehydration as a result of intensive therapy at Cascade. But Arieff, Wednesday's

medical expert, said that was not the case, and that there was nothing doctors

did that worsened Cassandra's condition.

" Before anybody did much of anything, she was gone, " he said. The prosecution

will call its final witness Friday. The defense is expected to rest Oct. 14.

Source: deseretnews.com

--

>

> Check out this story guys. I cannot believe anyone would even consider

> letting this woman go home to her biological children. Whoa. Insert bad

> words here of your choice.

>

http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/home/51036982-76/killpack-girl-jennete-parole.html.\

csp?page=1

>

>

[Guest guest]

But the adoptive parents of this child blame the " therapy " center and deny

direct responsibility for her death:

Killpack admits she bit her child

By Hyde

Deseret Morning News

PROVO - Cassandra Killpack didn't want any more water.

As her mother tried to force more past her clenched teeth, the 4-year-old began

kicking and screaming. Then she spit some water in her adoptive mother's face.

Jennete

Killpack snapped.

" I leaned over to bite her, " Killpack said in a police interview on June 23,

2002, two weeks after her daughter's death. " . . . I put my teeth on her and

started to bite down. And I thought, 'Oh no, I can't do this.' "

On Wednesday, prosecutors in the child-abuse homicide case played a videotape of

that interview, as well as an interview between Killpack and

then-Springville Police investigator Dean Pettersson. Prosecutors also called

its final medical expert - Dr. Arieff, a nephrologist who specializes in

water intoxication. Arieff

agreed with another doctor who testified Tuesday that Cassandra was forced to

drink about one gallon of water.

That much water caused her brain to swell beyond the capacity of her skull, her

lungs to fill with water and the sodium levels in her blood to drop to fatal

levels. Cassandra died June 9, 2002.

" One can't drink that much water without becoming comatose or (having a

seizure), " Arieff said. " It had to be forced. "

In both police interviews jurors watched Wednesday, the Killpacks said they were

only trying to help their daughter, who had been diagnosed with reactive

attachment disorder, a mental illness.

Jennete Killpack said she came up with the water-discipline method from

conversations with therapists, family members and a book by , a

well-known advocate of holding therapy, a controversial form of therapy

practiced by some therapists at Cascade Center for Family Growth.

The defense maintains the Killpacks learned the water-discipline technique at

Cascade, which is now defunct. But during the taped interview Jennete Killpack

said she first used water as a punishment a week before she first went to

Cascade. When she brought it up with a therapist there, she said she was

encouraged to keep doing it.

She also said much of the clinic's therapy, which was directed by a

self-described pastor who had no license to practice in Utah, involved pushing

the girl to her limits. On one occasion, she said, Cascade therapists made

Cassandra kick a wall 100 times, and if she stopped she was forced to jump up

and down. The girl was drenched in sweat by the end of the session and near

dehydration, her mother said.

" These people pushed my daughter, and if I would've been smart enough I would've

stopped it, " she said.

In the interview, Killpack also blamed Cascade for his daughter's death,

as well as Primary Children's Medical Center and the paramedics who first

arrived to treat her.

He acknowledged that mistakes were made - including an incident three months

before in which his wife hit Cassandra in the head with a spoon and drew blood -

but that the girl did not die from anything they had done.

" The bottom line is we were not responsible for her death. The answer was not

taking her to Cascade, " he said in the police interview.

According to Killpack's own research, the girl died from heat exhaustion and

dehydration as a result of intensive therapy at Cascade. But Arieff, Wednesday's

medical expert, said that was not the case, and that there was nothing doctors

did that worsened Cassandra's condition.

" Before anybody did much of anything, she was gone, " he said. The prosecution

will call its final witness Friday. The defense is expected to rest Oct. 14.

Source: deseretnews.com

--

>

> Check out this story guys. I cannot believe anyone would even consider

> letting this woman go home to her biological children. Whoa. Insert bad

> words here of your choice.

>

http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/home/51036982-76/killpack-girl-jennete-parole.html.\

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>

[Guest guest]

I'm trembling with rage for that poor child. Some old styles of punishment

might be good for her--especially eye-for-eye. I wish she would be forced to

drink a gallon of water, just like that poor child.

Holly

On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 6:47 AM, christine.depizan <

christine.depizan@...> wrote:

>

>

> But the adoptive parents of this child blame the " therapy " center and deny

> direct responsibility for her death:

>

> Killpack admits she bit her child

> By Hyde

> Deseret Morning News

>

> PROVO - Cassandra Killpack didn't want any more water.

>

> As her mother tried to force more past her clenched teeth, the 4-year-old

> began kicking and screaming. Then she spit some water in her adoptive

> mother's face. Jennete

> Killpack snapped.

>

> " I leaned over to bite her, " Killpack said in a police interview on June

> 23, 2002, two weeks after her daughter's death. " . . . I put my teeth on her

> and started to bite down. And I thought, 'Oh no, I can't do this.' "

>

> On Wednesday, prosecutors in the child-abuse homicide case played a

> videotape of that interview, as well as an interview between

> Killpack and then-Springville Police investigator Dean Pettersson.

> Prosecutors also called its final medical expert - Dr. Arieff, a

> nephrologist who specializes in water intoxication. Arieff

> agreed with another doctor who testified Tuesday that Cassandra was forced

> to drink about one gallon of water.

>

> That much water caused her brain to swell beyond the capacity of her skull,

> her lungs to fill with water and the sodium levels in her blood to drop to

> fatal levels. Cassandra died June 9, 2002.

>

> " One can't drink that much water without becoming comatose or (having a

> seizure), " Arieff said. " It had to be forced. "

>

> In both police interviews jurors watched Wednesday, the Killpacks said they

> were only trying to help their daughter, who had been diagnosed with

> reactive attachment disorder, a mental illness.

>

> Jennete Killpack said she came up with the water-discipline method from

> conversations with therapists, family members and a book by , a

> well-known advocate of holding therapy, a controversial form of therapy

> practiced by some therapists at Cascade Center for Family Growth.

>

> The defense maintains the Killpacks learned the water-discipline technique

> at Cascade, which is now defunct. But during the taped interview Jennete

> Killpack said she first used water as a punishment a week before she first

> went to Cascade. When she brought it up with a therapist there, she said she

> was encouraged to keep doing it.

>

> She also said much of the clinic's therapy, which was directed by a

> self-described pastor who had no license to practice in Utah, involved

> pushing the girl to her limits. On one occasion, she said, Cascade

> therapists made Cassandra kick a wall 100 times, and if she stopped she was

> forced to jump up and down. The girl was drenched in sweat by the end of the

> session and near dehydration, her mother said.

>

> " These people pushed my daughter, and if I would've been smart enough I

> would've stopped it, " she said.

>

> In the interview, Killpack also blamed Cascade for his daughter's

> death, as well as Primary Children's Medical Center and the paramedics who

> first arrived to treat her.

>

> He acknowledged that mistakes were made - including an incident three

> months before in which his wife hit Cassandra in the head with a spoon and

> drew blood - but that the girl did not die from anything they had done.

>

> " The bottom line is we were not responsible for her death. The answer was

> not taking her to Cascade, " he said in the police interview.

>

> According to Killpack's own research, the girl died from heat exhaustion

> and dehydration as a result of intensive therapy at Cascade. But Arieff,

> Wednesday's medical expert, said that was not the case, and that there was

> nothing doctors did that worsened Cassandra's condition.

>

> " Before anybody did much of anything, she was gone, " he said. The

> prosecution will call its final witness Friday. The defense is expected to

> rest Oct. 14.

> Source: deseretnews.com

>

>

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> > letting this woman go home to her biological children. Whoa. Insert bad

> > words here of your choice.

> >

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