Guest guest Posted January 4, 2010 Report Share Posted January 4, 2010 MacGilchrist wrote about my saying I stayed on Iodoral: > Why do you think that following the Iodine Protocol is incompatible with T3 therapy? > 1) T3 and iodine both stress adrenals and often this can be too much. > 2) Taking iodine makes you produce more T4 which feeds the RT3 problem. > 3) The selenium in the Iodine Protocol promotes RT3 and makes it harder to get rid of it. To which Val replied: > Iodine stimulates the thyroid to produce thyroid hormones.. T4 in > particular. We are trying ot supress T4 to eliminate RT3. So . . . for anyone wondering why I stayed with it, here is my reasoning: 1: I began Iodoral before I received the cynomel from Mexico, but after I my RT3 problem was diagnosed. I ordered the Iodoral in the first place because I realized I was iodine deficient. Why? Because I don't eat any processed foods, I don't get enough iodine in the foods I do eat that have it, because I don't eat a high enough quantity of those foods, and I don't use salt with iodine in it. 2: The Iodoral *immediately* relieved some of my hypo symptoms. My chronic constipation was gone in two days and has never returned. My temps began to rise. I slept better. 3: My reasoning for continuing with it after the cynomel arrived was that my iodine-deficient life-style would continue, my T4 wasn't high to begin with, and that my real problem was one of conversion, not amount of T3. Thus, I felt, the small amount of Iodoral would be quickly used up by my body, and would not add to the T3 conversion problem, but instead perhaps allow that problem to be cured more quickly, and with a smaller dose of T3 than would be otherwise required. And that turned out to be the exactly the case. 4: Now that my T4 has dropped, and my T3 soared, and my RT3 diminished, I am continuing the Iodoral, but at half strength. If I don't see any problems with that, I'll continue until my leptin resistance problem is solved and then, metabolism restored to health, think about going to a half pill every other day and see how that does. I understand this is contrary to Val's good advice, but I did say I was the exception that proved the rule. And I think my reasoning is pretty sound -- for me -- as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2010 Report Share Posted January 4, 2010 That's very interesting! I was on Cytomel only for a while, and I tried a few natural desiccated thyroids to which I had an allergic reaction to. But I did like how smooth NT felt compared to Cytomel, so I decided to try Iodoral. I avoid seafood because of heavy metal contamination. And I'm in a process of weaning from HC, so I really wanted an alternative to Cytomel-only option. I started at 6.25mg a day, and I just upped it to 12.5mg hoping to be able to lower Cytomel. I'm only on 25mcg of Cytomel because that's the only amount I can handle (in 5mcg increments) without stressing out my adrenals (sometimes even 5mcg is too much). I hope to get a lab done soon to see what my T4 and T3 levels are. And I agree that your reasonings are pretty sound to me too. :-) MacGilchrist wrote about my saying I stayed on Iodoral:> Why do you think that following the Iodine Protocol is incompatible with T3 therapy? > 1) T3 and iodine both stress adrenals and often this can be too much.> 2) Taking iodine makes you produce more T4 which feeds the RT3 problem.> 3) The selenium in the Iodine Protocol promotes RT3 and makes it harder to get rid of it. To which Val replied:> Iodine stimulates the thyroid to produce thyroid hormones.. T4 in> particular. We are trying ot supress T4 to eliminate RT3.So . . . for anyone wondering why I stayed with it, here is my reasoning: 1: I began Iodoral before I received the cynomel from Mexico, but after I my RT3 problem was diagnosed. I ordered the Iodoral in the first place because I realized I was iodine deficient. Why? Because I don't eat any processed foods, I don't get enough iodine in the foods I do eat that have it, because I don't eat a high enough quantity of those foods, and I don't use salt with iodine in it. 2: The Iodoral *immediately* relieved some of my hypo symptoms. My chronic constipation was gone in two days and has never returned. My temps began to rise. I slept better.3: My reasoning for continuing with it after the cynomel arrived was that my iodine-deficient life-style would continue, my T4 wasn't high to begin with, and that my real problem was one of conversion, not amount of T3. Thus, I felt, the small amount of Iodoral would be quickly used up by my body, and would not add to the T3 conversion problem, but instead perhaps allow that problem to be cured more quickly, and with a smaller dose of T3 than would be otherwise required. And that turned out to be the exactly the case. 4: Now that my T4 has dropped, and my T3 soared, and my RT3 diminished, I am continuing the Iodoral, but at half strength. If I don't see any problems with that, I'll continue until my leptin resistance problem is solved and then, metabolism restored to health, think about going to a half pill every other day and see how that does. I understand this is contrary to Val's good advice, but I did say I was the exception that proved the rule. And I think my reasoning is pretty sound -- for me -- as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2010 Report Share Posted January 4, 2010 That's very interesting! I was on Cytomel only for a while, and I tried a few natural desiccated thyroids to which I had an allergic reaction to. But I did like how smooth NT felt compared to Cytomel, so I decided to try Iodoral. I avoid seafood because of heavy metal contamination. And I'm in a process of weaning from HC, so I really wanted an alternative to Cytomel-only option. I started at 6.25mg a day, and I just upped it to 12.5mg hoping to be able to lower Cytomel. I'm only on 25mcg of Cytomel because that's the only amount I can handle (in 5mcg increments) without stressing out my adrenals (sometimes even 5mcg is too much). I hope to get a lab done soon to see what my T4 and T3 levels are. And I agree that your reasonings are pretty sound to me too. :-) MacGilchrist wrote about my saying I stayed on Iodoral:> Why do you think that following the Iodine Protocol is incompatible with T3 therapy? > 1) T3 and iodine both stress adrenals and often this can be too much.> 2) Taking iodine makes you produce more T4 which feeds the RT3 problem.> 3) The selenium in the Iodine Protocol promotes RT3 and makes it harder to get rid of it. To which Val replied:> Iodine stimulates the thyroid to produce thyroid hormones.. T4 in> particular. We are trying ot supress T4 to eliminate RT3.So . . . for anyone wondering why I stayed with it, here is my reasoning: 1: I began Iodoral before I received the cynomel from Mexico, but after I my RT3 problem was diagnosed. I ordered the Iodoral in the first place because I realized I was iodine deficient. Why? Because I don't eat any processed foods, I don't get enough iodine in the foods I do eat that have it, because I don't eat a high enough quantity of those foods, and I don't use salt with iodine in it. 2: The Iodoral *immediately* relieved some of my hypo symptoms. My chronic constipation was gone in two days and has never returned. My temps began to rise. I slept better.3: My reasoning for continuing with it after the cynomel arrived was that my iodine-deficient life-style would continue, my T4 wasn't high to begin with, and that my real problem was one of conversion, not amount of T3. Thus, I felt, the small amount of Iodoral would be quickly used up by my body, and would not add to the T3 conversion problem, but instead perhaps allow that problem to be cured more quickly, and with a smaller dose of T3 than would be otherwise required. And that turned out to be the exactly the case. 4: Now that my T4 has dropped, and my T3 soared, and my RT3 diminished, I am continuing the Iodoral, but at half strength. If I don't see any problems with that, I'll continue until my leptin resistance problem is solved and then, metabolism restored to health, think about going to a half pill every other day and see how that does. I understand this is contrary to Val's good advice, but I did say I was the exception that proved the rule. And I think my reasoning is pretty sound -- for me -- as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2010 Report Share Posted January 4, 2010 That's very interesting! I was on Cytomel only for a while, and I tried a few natural desiccated thyroids to which I had an allergic reaction to. But I did like how smooth NT felt compared to Cytomel, so I decided to try Iodoral. I avoid seafood because of heavy metal contamination. And I'm in a process of weaning from HC, so I really wanted an alternative to Cytomel-only option. I started at 6.25mg a day, and I just upped it to 12.5mg hoping to be able to lower Cytomel. I'm only on 25mcg of Cytomel because that's the only amount I can handle (in 5mcg increments) without stressing out my adrenals (sometimes even 5mcg is too much). I hope to get a lab done soon to see what my T4 and T3 levels are. And I agree that your reasonings are pretty sound to me too. :-) MacGilchrist wrote about my saying I stayed on Iodoral:> Why do you think that following the Iodine Protocol is incompatible with T3 therapy? > 1) T3 and iodine both stress adrenals and often this can be too much.> 2) Taking iodine makes you produce more T4 which feeds the RT3 problem.> 3) The selenium in the Iodine Protocol promotes RT3 and makes it harder to get rid of it. To which Val replied:> Iodine stimulates the thyroid to produce thyroid hormones.. T4 in> particular. We are trying ot supress T4 to eliminate RT3.So . . . for anyone wondering why I stayed with it, here is my reasoning: 1: I began Iodoral before I received the cynomel from Mexico, but after I my RT3 problem was diagnosed. I ordered the Iodoral in the first place because I realized I was iodine deficient. Why? Because I don't eat any processed foods, I don't get enough iodine in the foods I do eat that have it, because I don't eat a high enough quantity of those foods, and I don't use salt with iodine in it. 2: The Iodoral *immediately* relieved some of my hypo symptoms. My chronic constipation was gone in two days and has never returned. My temps began to rise. I slept better.3: My reasoning for continuing with it after the cynomel arrived was that my iodine-deficient life-style would continue, my T4 wasn't high to begin with, and that my real problem was one of conversion, not amount of T3. Thus, I felt, the small amount of Iodoral would be quickly used up by my body, and would not add to the T3 conversion problem, but instead perhaps allow that problem to be cured more quickly, and with a smaller dose of T3 than would be otherwise required. And that turned out to be the exactly the case. 4: Now that my T4 has dropped, and my T3 soared, and my RT3 diminished, I am continuing the Iodoral, but at half strength. If I don't see any problems with that, I'll continue until my leptin resistance problem is solved and then, metabolism restored to health, think about going to a half pill every other day and see how that does. I understand this is contrary to Val's good advice, but I did say I was the exception that proved the rule. And I think my reasoning is pretty sound -- for me -- as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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