Re: Re: Disturbed student threatening FIL--advice pls

[Guest guest]

I'm with Doug - I'd play the press card. Personally (because I am one), I

would contact the public information officer for the University. I'd fill

her in on the situation and tell her that I could imagine some very negative

press resulting. Then I'd let her present the info to the Pres of the

College in terms of his reputation, what the board of regents will think,

how everybody is going to look and sound and how it could become a press

field day just like Arizona on national, even international terms.

I'd also take every single careful step with the police, document every

single thing, and very sweetly let the U president know it was his ass if he

ignored a threat.

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> I second Doug's call the police and call the press advice. Especially call

> the press. I have had personal experience catching the PD off guard and

> watching them do everything in their power to make up for it.

>

> Stay safe.

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[Guest guest]

I'm with Doug - I'd play the press card. Personally (because I am one), I

would contact the public information officer for the University. I'd fill

her in on the situation and tell her that I could imagine some very negative

press resulting. Then I'd let her present the info to the Pres of the

College in terms of his reputation, what the board of regents will think,

how everybody is going to look and sound and how it could become a press

field day just like Arizona on national, even international terms.

I'd also take every single careful step with the police, document every

single thing, and very sweetly let the U president know it was his ass if he

ignored a threat.

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>

> I second Doug's call the police and call the press advice. Especially call

> the press. I have had personal experience catching the PD off guard and

> watching them do everything in their power to make up for it.

>

> Stay safe.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I passed on some of the advice last night, and FIL said he wants to see what

administration does first--but DH and I, and no doubt MIL, will be

encouraging him to use all these ideas--thank you! Also, I will pass along

the information about Chabad House, too--didn't think of that.

Here's hoping that the threatening student won't do anything...

Holly

On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 9:02 AM, Girlscout Cowboy <

girlscout.cowboy@...> wrote:

> I'm with Doug - I'd play the press card. Personally (because I am one), I

> would contact the public information officer for the University. I'd fill

> her in on the situation and tell her that I could imagine some very

> negative

> press resulting. Then I'd let her present the info to the Pres of the

> College in terms of his reputation, what the board of regents will think,

> how everybody is going to look and sound and how it could become a press

> field day just like Arizona on national, even international terms.

>

> I'd also take every single careful step with the police, document every

> single thing, and very sweetly let the U president know it was his ass if

> he

> ignored a threat.

>

> On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 12:46 AM, afldancer

> wrote:

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> > I second Doug's call the police and call the press advice. Especially

> call

> > the press. I have had personal experience catching the PD off guard and

> > watching them do everything in their power to make up for it.

> >

> > Stay safe.

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> >

>

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[Guest guest]

So, after I passed along the rest of the comments earlier today, I got an

email back from MIL:

" Thanks to you and all these people for the comments. [FIL] met with [boss]

and [another boss] this morning. There is going to be a ban and bar

instituted. Was instituted at 1pm...he was taken from campus by ambulance

whatever that means. Will keep you posted. Many are taking this

seriously...some were not including security over there apparently. "

So I guess at least some of the administration took the threatening nature

of the student seriously, even when the others had their heads in the sand.

Thanks be to God. And thanks to everybody for your prayers and helpful

suggestions!

Hopefully he'll stay far away from the university now, with the ban and bar.

And hopefully nobody will let him sneak back in under another name or

whatnot.

Holly

On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 2:14 PM, Holly Byers

wrote:

> I passed on some of the advice last night, and FIL said he wants to see

> what administration does first--but DH and I, and no doubt MIL, will be

> encouraging him to use all these ideas--thank you! Also, I will pass along

> the information about Chabad House, too--didn't think of that.

>

> Here's hoping that the threatening student won't do anything...

>

> Holly

>

>

> On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 9:02 AM, Girlscout Cowboy <

> girlscout.cowboy@...> wrote:

>

>> I'm with Doug - I'd play the press card. Personally (because I am one), I

>> would contact the public information officer for the University. I'd fill

>> her in on the situation and tell her that I could imagine some very

>> negative

>> press resulting. Then I'd let her present the info to the Pres of the

>> College in terms of his reputation, what the board of regents will think,

>> how everybody is going to look and sound and how it could become a press

>> field day just like Arizona on national, even international terms.

>>

>> I'd also take every single careful step with the police, document every

>> single thing, and very sweetly let the U president know it was his ass if

>> he

>> ignored a threat.

>>

>> On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 12:46 AM, afldancer

>> wrote:

>>

>> >

>> >

>> > I second Doug's call the police and call the press advice. Especially

>> call

>> > the press. I have had personal experience catching the PD off guard and

>> > watching them do everything in their power to make up for it.

>> >

>> > Stay safe.

>> >

>> >

>> >

>>

>>

>>

[Guest guest]

Listen to Dough. I'm investigative jornalist and he is right about eveything.

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Re: Disturbed student threatening FIL--advice pls

Call the police. There is not a law enforcement agency in the country

right now that wants to be standing in front of cameras with their,

scuse me for having the thougtht, you fill it in, in their hands,

saying, well , we knew he was Knuckin Futs but we just didnt do shit

till he shot up our local college.

A month ago, they may NOT have taken it seriously. Tomorrow morning,

every one of them is going to see himself looking like that Idiot

Sheriff in Arizona. And they are going to be thinking about the multi

million dollar lawsuits that Sheriff s dept is about to get slapped

with.

Oh, yea, they ll take it seriously.

I can t belive, in view of the U of Va shootings just last year, and so

many other school shooting incidents, that they would blow it off.

Better yet, take it to some hotshot reporter for the local TV station.

The University President will just LOVE walking away from cameras saying

No Comment and seeing it on the evening news. And wonder how that

looks to the alumni and his donors.

Bottom line with college admins, they are thinking about absolutely

nothing but money. ly, they don t give a good god dam if people

get shot, as long as the money flows in to keep their jobs open.

Sorry if that sounds cynical. But I belive it. Threaten their money

and now they are serious.

Go to the cops and say we are afraid we have a University of Virginia

situation brewing, and the admin won t do anything. We hope you can and

will. Thanks for your time, we are on our way to the TV station to talk

to their investigative reporter about it.

Screw them. Do not be nice and wait for them to get worried. Fight

mean. Bite. Kick gonads.

Doug

Ps, btw, if he came back to campus with an agreement not to visit FIL s

dept, and violated that, Admin should have taken a restraining order the

very next day. The fact that admin saw fit to extract such an agreement

from him should in itself be sufficient for a restraining order.

So...if admin isn't going to take this student's threatening behavior

seriously, or FIL's safety seriously, what can FIL do? I don't know if a

restraining order would work, since there wasn't an actual direct " I'm

going to kill you " threat. Or if FIL should ask for police help in

investigating, or what he could do. Lawyer it up to force administration

to take it seriously? I honestly don't know. My MIL has been swearing up

a storm apparently, and called to tell DH all about it, and she is

really scared for FIL.

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> So, if you guys have any advice on potential legal or security things

FIL can do, that would be amazing.

>

> At the very least, prayers would be wonderful, too.

> Holly

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[Guest guest]

This sounds like good news Holly! I am curious, who was taking by

ambulance, the kid? Hopefully due to his actions someone will see this kid

is psychologically unstable and get him some help or something.

Keeping you guys in my thoughts & prayers. Good luck & please keep us

posted.

Mia

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[Guest guest]

This sounds like good news Holly! I am curious, who was taking by

ambulance, the kid? Hopefully due to his actions someone will see this kid

is psychologically unstable and get him some help or something.

Keeping you guys in my thoughts & prayers. Good luck & please keep us

posted.

Mia

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[Guest guest]

Hey that's good news. Sounds like they may have Baker Acted the student.

Em

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> This sounds like good news Holly! I am curious, who was taking by

> ambulance, the kid? Hopefully due to his actions someone will see this kid

> is psychologically unstable and get him some help or something.

>

> Keeping you guys in my thoughts & prayers. Good luck & please keep us

> posted.

>

> Mia

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[Guest guest]

Hey that's good news. Sounds like they may have Baker Acted the student.

Em

Sent from my blueberry.

> This sounds like good news Holly! I am curious, who was taking by

> ambulance, the kid? Hopefully due to his actions someone will see this kid

> is psychologically unstable and get him some help or something.

>

> Keeping you guys in my thoughts & prayers. Good luck & please keep us

> posted.

>

> Mia

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[Guest guest]

Hey that's good news. Sounds like they may have Baker Acted the student.

Em

Sent from my blueberry.

> This sounds like good news Holly! I am curious, who was taking by

> ambulance, the kid? Hopefully due to his actions someone will see this kid

> is psychologically unstable and get him some help or something.

>

> Keeping you guys in my thoughts & prayers. Good luck & please keep us

> posted.

>

> Mia

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