Re: RT3 cleared so fast? Should I try Armour/Erfa?

[Guest guest]

Your ferritin is horrific.  I let Val say for sure if you should transition back to NDT but with a ferritin that I would bet you'll make a nice amount of RT3 again when adding T4 into the mix.

This is fabulous news, I think:

On November 12 2009 I found out I have an RT3 issue. I had been taking 100 mcg. levoxyl plus 5 mcg. cytomel.

I stopped taking levoxyl and slowly increased cytomel from 5 mcg and now am up to 40 mcg.

(I'm also taking cortef.  (I started on Fludrocortisone and potassium about a week and a half ago, so will retest electolytes next week)

These are my labs for 11/04/09

WBC: 3.4 (4.0-10.5)

RBC: 3.87 (3.8-5.1)

glucose: 78 (65-99)

creatinine:.81 (.57-1.0)

Bun: 13 (5-26)

sodium: 139

potassium: 3.8

AST: 18

ALT: 15

phosphorus: 3.4 (2.5-4.5)

Iron binding cap. 276

UIBC: 181

ANA negative (I've had thyroid cancer, and my ANA has been elevated until now)

estradiol: 22

TSH: 5.4 (.45-4.5)

LDH: 140 (100-250)

T3: 68 (83-200)

magnesium: 2.0 (1.6-2.6)

RT3: 429 (90-350)

cortisol, 9 a.m.: 10.7

ACTH,plasma: 11

platelets; 165

New labs: 12/24/09, fasting as well

WBC: 5.1 Hurray!

RBC: 3.76 (3.8-5.1)

RDW: 15.4 (11.7-15.0) Dunno what this means

platelets: 144 (140-415) Dunno why this went down

glucose: 86 (hurray, an improvement)

bun: 11

creatinine: .64 (.57-1.0) better than Nov. labs

ANA negative, hurray

T4 free, direct: .07 (.82-1.77)

DHEA-S: 6.6

DHEA-S in Sept '09: 27

T4: 0.6 (4.5-12.0) seems to correspond with the free t4

T3: 108 (83-200)

T3, free, serum: 2.5 (2.0-4.4)

sed rate: 4

magnesium, serum: 1.9 (1.6-2.6) this has gone down from 11/09

ferritin: 15

And now for the punchline:

RT3: <17 (90-350)

So from 11/12/09 until 1/4/10 my RT3 problem has entirely disappeared!

Should I try armour/erfa? Or stay on the cytomel?

I have an appt. with the ND this week and want to know whether to give armour a trial. My pharmacist claims he has the old armour in stock, in all dosages. He says he stocked up when the shortage came up.

Thanks!

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[Guest guest]

Your ferritin is horrific.  I let Val say for sure if you should transition back to NDT but with a ferritin that I would bet you'll make a nice amount of RT3 again when adding T4 into the mix.

This is fabulous news, I think:

On November 12 2009 I found out I have an RT3 issue. I had been taking 100 mcg. levoxyl plus 5 mcg. cytomel.

I stopped taking levoxyl and slowly increased cytomel from 5 mcg and now am up to 40 mcg.

(I'm also taking cortef.  (I started on Fludrocortisone and potassium about a week and a half ago, so will retest electolytes next week)

These are my labs for 11/04/09

WBC: 3.4 (4.0-10.5)

RBC: 3.87 (3.8-5.1)

glucose: 78 (65-99)

creatinine:.81 (.57-1.0)

Bun: 13 (5-26)

sodium: 139

potassium: 3.8

AST: 18

ALT: 15

phosphorus: 3.4 (2.5-4.5)

Iron binding cap. 276

UIBC: 181

ANA negative (I've had thyroid cancer, and my ANA has been elevated until now)

estradiol: 22

TSH: 5.4 (.45-4.5)

LDH: 140 (100-250)

T3: 68 (83-200)

magnesium: 2.0 (1.6-2.6)

RT3: 429 (90-350)

cortisol, 9 a.m.: 10.7

ACTH,plasma: 11

platelets; 165

New labs: 12/24/09, fasting as well

WBC: 5.1 Hurray!

RBC: 3.76 (3.8-5.1)

RDW: 15.4 (11.7-15.0) Dunno what this means

platelets: 144 (140-415) Dunno why this went down

glucose: 86 (hurray, an improvement)

bun: 11

creatinine: .64 (.57-1.0) better than Nov. labs

ANA negative, hurray

T4 free, direct: .07 (.82-1.77)

DHEA-S: 6.6

DHEA-S in Sept '09: 27

T4: 0.6 (4.5-12.0) seems to correspond with the free t4

T3: 108 (83-200)

T3, free, serum: 2.5 (2.0-4.4)

sed rate: 4

magnesium, serum: 1.9 (1.6-2.6) this has gone down from 11/09

ferritin: 15

And now for the punchline:

RT3: <17 (90-350)

So from 11/12/09 until 1/4/10 my RT3 problem has entirely disappeared!

Should I try armour/erfa? Or stay on the cytomel?

I have an appt. with the ND this week and want to know whether to give armour a trial. My pharmacist claims he has the old armour in stock, in all dosages. He says he stocked up when the shortage came up.

Thanks!

------------------------------------

[Guest guest]

Your ferritin is horrific.  I let Val say for sure if you should transition back to NDT but with a ferritin that I would bet you'll make a nice amount of RT3 again when adding T4 into the mix.

This is fabulous news, I think:

On November 12 2009 I found out I have an RT3 issue. I had been taking 100 mcg. levoxyl plus 5 mcg. cytomel.

I stopped taking levoxyl and slowly increased cytomel from 5 mcg and now am up to 40 mcg.

(I'm also taking cortef.  (I started on Fludrocortisone and potassium about a week and a half ago, so will retest electolytes next week)

These are my labs for 11/04/09

WBC: 3.4 (4.0-10.5)

RBC: 3.87 (3.8-5.1)

glucose: 78 (65-99)

creatinine:.81 (.57-1.0)

Bun: 13 (5-26)

sodium: 139

potassium: 3.8

AST: 18

ALT: 15

phosphorus: 3.4 (2.5-4.5)

Iron binding cap. 276

UIBC: 181

ANA negative (I've had thyroid cancer, and my ANA has been elevated until now)

estradiol: 22

TSH: 5.4 (.45-4.5)

LDH: 140 (100-250)

T3: 68 (83-200)

magnesium: 2.0 (1.6-2.6)

RT3: 429 (90-350)

cortisol, 9 a.m.: 10.7

ACTH,plasma: 11

platelets; 165

New labs: 12/24/09, fasting as well

WBC: 5.1 Hurray!

RBC: 3.76 (3.8-5.1)

RDW: 15.4 (11.7-15.0) Dunno what this means

platelets: 144 (140-415) Dunno why this went down

glucose: 86 (hurray, an improvement)

bun: 11

creatinine: .64 (.57-1.0) better than Nov. labs

ANA negative, hurray

T4 free, direct: .07 (.82-1.77)

DHEA-S: 6.6

DHEA-S in Sept '09: 27

T4: 0.6 (4.5-12.0) seems to correspond with the free t4

T3: 108 (83-200)

T3, free, serum: 2.5 (2.0-4.4)

sed rate: 4

magnesium, serum: 1.9 (1.6-2.6) this has gone down from 11/09

ferritin: 15

And now for the punchline:

RT3: <17 (90-350)

So from 11/12/09 until 1/4/10 my RT3 problem has entirely disappeared!

Should I try armour/erfa? Or stay on the cytomel?

I have an appt. with the ND this week and want to know whether to give armour a trial. My pharmacist claims he has the old armour in stock, in all dosages. He says he stocked up when the shortage came up.

Thanks!

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[Guest guest]

With your ferritin that ow you woudl go right back to high RT3. That

very low T4 is why you have no RT3.

--

Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV

http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HypoPets/

[Guest guest]

With your ferritin that ow you woudl go right back to high RT3. That

very low T4 is why you have no RT3.

--

Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV

http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HypoPets/

[Guest guest]

From what I understand, the RT3 clears from your blood long before it clears

from the cell receptors. That's why a full 12 weeks on T3 only is recommended.

If I were you, I'd stay on the T3 and keep working on getting your ferritin up.

Good luck!

>

> > This is fabulous news, I think:

> > On November 12 2009 I found out I have an RT3 issue. I had been taking 100

> > mcg. levoxyl plus 5 mcg. cytomel.

> >

> > I stopped taking levoxyl and slowly increased cytomel from 5 mcg and now am

> > up to 40 mcg.

> >

> > (I'm also taking cortef. (I started on Fludrocortisone and potassium about

> > a week and a half ago, so will retest electolytes next week)

> >

> > These are my labs for 11/04/09

> > WBC: 3.4 (4.0-10.5)

> > RBC: 3.87 (3.8-5.1)

> > glucose: 78 (65-99)

> > creatinine:.81 (.57-1.0)

> > Bun: 13 (5-26)

> > sodium: 139

> > potassium: 3.8

> > AST: 18

> > ALT: 15

> > phosphorus: 3.4 (2.5-4.5)

> > Iron binding cap. 276

> > UIBC: 181

> > ANA negative (I've had thyroid cancer, and my ANA has been elevated until

> > now)

> > estradiol: 22

> > TSH: 5.4 (.45-4.5)

> > LDH: 140 (100-250)

> > T3: 68 (83-200)

> > magnesium: 2.0 (1.6-2.6)

> > RT3: 429 (90-350)

> > cortisol, 9 a.m.: 10.7

> > ACTH,plasma: 11

> > platelets; 165

> >

> > New labs: 12/24/09, fasting as well

> > WBC: 5.1 Hurray!

> > RBC: 3.76 (3.8-5.1)

> > RDW: 15.4 (11.7-15.0) Dunno what this means

> > platelets: 144 (140-415) Dunno why this went down

> > glucose: 86 (hurray, an improvement)

> > bun: 11

> > creatinine: .64 (.57-1.0) better than Nov. labs

> > ANA negative, hurray

> > T4 free, direct: .07 (.82-1.77)

> > DHEA-S: 6.6

> > DHEA-S in Sept '09: 27

> > T4: 0.6 (4.5-12.0) seems to correspond with the free t4

> > T3: 108 (83-200)

> > T3, free, serum: 2.5 (2.0-4.4)

> > sed rate: 4

> > magnesium, serum: 1.9 (1.6-2.6) this has gone down from 11/09

> > ferritin: 15

> > And now for the punchline:

> > RT3: <17 (90-350)

> >

> > So from 11/12/09 until 1/4/10 my RT3 problem has entirely disappeared!

> > Should I try armour/erfa? Or stay on the cytomel?

> > I have an appt. with the ND this week and want to know whether to give

> > armour a trial. My pharmacist claims he has the old armour in stock, in all

> > dosages. He says he stocked up when the shortage came up.

> > Thanks!

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ------------------------------------

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

From what I understand, the RT3 clears from your blood long before it clears

from the cell receptors. That's why a full 12 weeks on T3 only is recommended.

If I were you, I'd stay on the T3 and keep working on getting your ferritin up.

Good luck!

>

> > This is fabulous news, I think:

> > On November 12 2009 I found out I have an RT3 issue. I had been taking 100

> > mcg. levoxyl plus 5 mcg. cytomel.

> >

> > I stopped taking levoxyl and slowly increased cytomel from 5 mcg and now am

> > up to 40 mcg.

> >

> > (I'm also taking cortef. (I started on Fludrocortisone and potassium about

> > a week and a half ago, so will retest electolytes next week)

> >

> > These are my labs for 11/04/09

> > WBC: 3.4 (4.0-10.5)

> > RBC: 3.87 (3.8-5.1)

> > glucose: 78 (65-99)

> > creatinine:.81 (.57-1.0)

> > Bun: 13 (5-26)

> > sodium: 139

> > potassium: 3.8

> > AST: 18

> > ALT: 15

> > phosphorus: 3.4 (2.5-4.5)

> > Iron binding cap. 276

> > UIBC: 181

> > ANA negative (I've had thyroid cancer, and my ANA has been elevated until

> > now)

> > estradiol: 22

> > TSH: 5.4 (.45-4.5)

> > LDH: 140 (100-250)

> > T3: 68 (83-200)

> > magnesium: 2.0 (1.6-2.6)

> > RT3: 429 (90-350)

> > cortisol, 9 a.m.: 10.7

> > ACTH,plasma: 11

> > platelets; 165

> >

> > New labs: 12/24/09, fasting as well

> > WBC: 5.1 Hurray!

> > RBC: 3.76 (3.8-5.1)

> > RDW: 15.4 (11.7-15.0) Dunno what this means

> > platelets: 144 (140-415) Dunno why this went down

> > glucose: 86 (hurray, an improvement)

> > bun: 11

> > creatinine: .64 (.57-1.0) better than Nov. labs

> > ANA negative, hurray

> > T4 free, direct: .07 (.82-1.77)

> > DHEA-S: 6.6

> > DHEA-S in Sept '09: 27

> > T4: 0.6 (4.5-12.0) seems to correspond with the free t4

> > T3: 108 (83-200)

> > T3, free, serum: 2.5 (2.0-4.4)

> > sed rate: 4

> > magnesium, serum: 1.9 (1.6-2.6) this has gone down from 11/09

> > ferritin: 15

> > And now for the punchline:

> > RT3: <17 (90-350)

> >

> > So from 11/12/09 until 1/4/10 my RT3 problem has entirely disappeared!

> > Should I try armour/erfa? Or stay on the cytomel?

> > I have an appt. with the ND this week and want to know whether to give

> > armour a trial. My pharmacist claims he has the old armour in stock, in all

> > dosages. He says he stocked up when the shortage came up.

> > Thanks!

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ------------------------------------

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

ok, got it! So on cytomel I shall remain.

To: RT3_T3 Sent: Mon, January 4, 2010 5:46:45 PMSubject: Re: RT3 cleared so fast? Should I try Armour/Erfa?

With your ferritin that ow you woudl go right back to high RT3. That very low T4 is why you have no RT3.-- Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WVhttp://www.stopthet hyroidmadness. com/http://health. groups.yahoo. com/group/ NaturalThyroidHo rmonesADRENALS/http://health. groups.yahoo. com/group/ RT3_T3/http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/HypoPets/

[Guest guest]

ok, got it! So on cytomel I shall remain.

To: RT3_T3 Sent: Mon, January 4, 2010 5:46:45 PMSubject: Re: RT3 cleared so fast? Should I try Armour/Erfa?

With your ferritin that ow you woudl go right back to high RT3. That very low T4 is why you have no RT3.-- Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WVhttp://www.stopthet hyroidmadness. com/http://health. groups.yahoo. com/group/ NaturalThyroidHo rmonesADRENALS/http://health. groups.yahoo. com/group/ RT3_T3/http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/HypoPets/

[Guest guest]

ok, got it! So on cytomel I shall remain.

To: RT3_T3 Sent: Mon, January 4, 2010 5:46:45 PMSubject: Re: RT3 cleared so fast? Should I try Armour/Erfa?

With your ferritin that ow you woudl go right back to high RT3. That very low T4 is why you have no RT3.-- Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WVhttp://www.stopthet hyroidmadness. com/http://health. groups.yahoo. com/group/ NaturalThyroidHo rmonesADRENALS/http://health. groups.yahoo. com/group/ RT3_T3/http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/HypoPets/

[Guest guest]

Got it! No armour trial until ferritin is up up up.Thanks!

To: RT3_T3 Sent: Mon, January 4, 2010 5:51:41 PMSubject: Re: RT3 cleared so fast? Should I try Armour/Erfa?

From what I understand, the RT3 clears from your blood long before it clears from the cell receptors. That's why a full 12 weeks on T3 only is recommended. If I were you, I'd stay on the T3 and keep working on getting your ferritin up.Good luck!> > > This is fabulous news, I think:> > On November 12 2009 I found out I have an RT3 issue. I had been taking 100> > mcg. levoxyl plus 5 mcg. cytomel.>

>> > I stopped taking levoxyl and slowly increased cytomel from 5 mcg and now am> > up to 40 mcg.> >> > (I'm also taking cortef. (I started on Fludrocortisone and potassium about> > a week and a half ago, so will retest electolytes next week)> >> > These are my labs for 11/04/09> > WBC: 3.4 (4.0-10.5)> > RBC: 3.87 (3.8-5.1)> > glucose: 78 (65-99)> > creatinine:. 81 (.57-1.0)> > Bun: 13 (5-26)> > sodium: 139> > potassium: 3.8> > AST: 18> > ALT: 15> > phosphorus: 3.4 (2.5-4.5)> > Iron binding cap. 276> > UIBC: 181> > ANA negative (I've had thyroid cancer, and my ANA has been elevated until> > now)> > estradiol: 22> > TSH: 5.4 (.45-4.5)> > LDH: 140 (100-250)> > T3: 68 (83-200)> > magnesium: 2.0

(1.6-2.6)> > RT3: 429 (90-350)> > cortisol, 9 a.m.: 10..7> > ACTH,plasma: 11> > platelets; 165> >> > New labs: 12/24/09, fasting as well> > WBC: 5.1 Hurray!> > RBC: 3.76 (3.8-5.1) > > RDW: 15.4 (11.7-15.0) Dunno what this means> > platelets: 144 (140-415) Dunno why this went down> > glucose: 86 (hurray, an improvement)> > bun: 11> > creatinine: .64 (.57-1.0) better than Nov. labs> > ANA negative, hurray> > T4 free, direct: .07 (.82-1.77)> > DHEA-S: 6.6> > DHEA-S in Sept '09: 27> > T4: 0.6 (4.5-12.0) seems to correspond with the free t4> > T3: 108 (83-200)> > T3, free, serum: 2.5 (2.0-4.4)> > sed rate: 4> > magnesium, serum: 1.9 (1.6-2.6) this has gone down from 11/09> > ferritin: 15 > > And now for the

punchline:> > RT3: <17 (90-350)> >> > So from 11/12/09 until 1/4/10 my RT3 problem has entirely disappeared!> > Should I try armour/erfa? Or stay on the cytomel?> > I have an appt. with the ND this week and want to know whether to give> > armour a trial. My pharmacist claims he has the old armour in stock, in all> > dosages. He says he stocked up when the shortage came up.> > Thanks!> >> >> >> >> >> > ------------ --------- --------- ------> >> >

[Guest guest]

Got it! No armour trial until ferritin is up up up.Thanks!

To: RT3_T3 Sent: Mon, January 4, 2010 5:51:41 PMSubject: Re: RT3 cleared so fast? Should I try Armour/Erfa?

From what I understand, the RT3 clears from your blood long before it clears from the cell receptors. That's why a full 12 weeks on T3 only is recommended. If I were you, I'd stay on the T3 and keep working on getting your ferritin up.Good luck!> > > This is fabulous news, I think:> > On November 12 2009 I found out I have an RT3 issue. I had been taking 100> > mcg. levoxyl plus 5 mcg. cytomel.>

>> > I stopped taking levoxyl and slowly increased cytomel from 5 mcg and now am> > up to 40 mcg.> >> > (I'm also taking cortef. (I started on Fludrocortisone and potassium about> > a week and a half ago, so will retest electolytes next week)> >> > These are my labs for 11/04/09> > WBC: 3.4 (4.0-10.5)> > RBC: 3.87 (3.8-5.1)> > glucose: 78 (65-99)> > creatinine:. 81 (.57-1.0)> > Bun: 13 (5-26)> > sodium: 139> > potassium: 3.8> > AST: 18> > ALT: 15> > phosphorus: 3.4 (2.5-4.5)> > Iron binding cap. 276> > UIBC: 181> > ANA negative (I've had thyroid cancer, and my ANA has been elevated until> > now)> > estradiol: 22> > TSH: 5.4 (.45-4.5)> > LDH: 140 (100-250)> > T3: 68 (83-200)> > magnesium: 2.0

(1.6-2.6)> > RT3: 429 (90-350)> > cortisol, 9 a.m.: 10..7> > ACTH,plasma: 11> > platelets; 165> >> > New labs: 12/24/09, fasting as well> > WBC: 5.1 Hurray!> > RBC: 3.76 (3.8-5.1) > > RDW: 15.4 (11.7-15.0) Dunno what this means> > platelets: 144 (140-415) Dunno why this went down> > glucose: 86 (hurray, an improvement)> > bun: 11> > creatinine: .64 (.57-1.0) better than Nov. labs> > ANA negative, hurray> > T4 free, direct: .07 (.82-1.77)> > DHEA-S: 6.6> > DHEA-S in Sept '09: 27> > T4: 0.6 (4.5-12.0) seems to correspond with the free t4> > T3: 108 (83-200)> > T3, free, serum: 2.5 (2.0-4.4)> > sed rate: 4> > magnesium, serum: 1.9 (1.6-2.6) this has gone down from 11/09> > ferritin: 15 > > And now for the

punchline:> > RT3: <17 (90-350)> >> > So from 11/12/09 until 1/4/10 my RT3 problem has entirely disappeared!> > Should I try armour/erfa? Or stay on the cytomel?> > I have an appt. with the ND this week and want to know whether to give> > armour a trial. My pharmacist claims he has the old armour in stock, in all> > dosages. He says he stocked up when the shortage came up.> > Thanks!> >> >> >> >> >> > ------------ --------- --------- ------> >> >

[Guest guest]

Thanks! I have appt. with our doc tomorrow morn and he will probably bring up the issue of armour, so i will need to just be strong and insist on sticking to cytomel.

He will also bring up the topic of adding sex hormones to my regimen as my progesterone on 9/18/09 was 14 and my testosterone free was 3.7.

Is it wise to supplement sex hormones at this time?

He will also very likely mention the low dhea-s and may try to convince me to supplement; however, i have not done well with three days of dhea supplements in tiny doses. I got off it when I saw i had severe muscle weakness and fibromyalgia/myofascial pain returning.

To: RT3_T3 Sent: Mon, January 4, 2010 5:46:45 PMSubject: Re: RT3 cleared so fast? Should I try Armour/Erfa?

With your ferritin that ow you woudl go right back to high RT3. That very low T4 is why you have no RT3.-- Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WVhttp://www.stopthet hyroidmadness. com/http://health. groups.yahoo. com/group/ NaturalThyroidHo rmonesADRENALS/http://health. groups.yahoo. com/group/ RT3_T3/http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/HypoPets/

[Guest guest]

Thanks! I have appt. with our doc tomorrow morn and he will probably bring up the issue of armour, so i will need to just be strong and insist on sticking to cytomel.

He will also bring up the topic of adding sex hormones to my regimen as my progesterone on 9/18/09 was 14 and my testosterone free was 3.7.

Is it wise to supplement sex hormones at this time?

He will also very likely mention the low dhea-s and may try to convince me to supplement; however, i have not done well with three days of dhea supplements in tiny doses. I got off it when I saw i had severe muscle weakness and fibromyalgia/myofascial pain returning.

To: RT3_T3 Sent: Mon, January 4, 2010 5:46:45 PMSubject: Re: RT3 cleared so fast? Should I try Armour/Erfa?

With your ferritin that ow you woudl go right back to high RT3. That very low T4 is why you have no RT3.-- Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WVhttp://www.stopthet hyroidmadness. com/http://health. groups.yahoo. com/group/ NaturalThyroidHo rmonesADRENALS/http://health. groups.yahoo. com/group/ RT3_T3/http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/HypoPets/

[Guest guest]

Thanks! I have appt. with our doc tomorrow morn and he will probably bring up the issue of armour, so i will need to just be strong and insist on sticking to cytomel.

He will also bring up the topic of adding sex hormones to my regimen as my progesterone on 9/18/09 was 14 and my testosterone free was 3.7.

Is it wise to supplement sex hormones at this time?

He will also very likely mention the low dhea-s and may try to convince me to supplement; however, i have not done well with three days of dhea supplements in tiny doses. I got off it when I saw i had severe muscle weakness and fibromyalgia/myofascial pain returning.

To: RT3_T3 Sent: Mon, January 4, 2010 5:46:45 PMSubject: Re: RT3 cleared so fast? Should I try Armour/Erfa?

With your ferritin that ow you woudl go right back to high RT3. That very low T4 is why you have no RT3.-- Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WVhttp://www.stopthet hyroidmadness. com/http://health. groups.yahoo. com/group/ NaturalThyroidHo rmonesADRENALS/http://health. groups.yahoo. com/group/ RT3_T3/http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/HypoPets/

[Guest guest]

On the sex hormones they can be VERY helpful to start them now but ONE

at a time so if oyu DO have probelms oyu knwo which one is causing them.

I woudl start testosterone first as you are less liekly to have trouble

wiht it.

--

Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV

http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HypoPets/

[Guest guest]

On the sex hormones they can be VERY helpful to start them now but ONE

at a time so if oyu DO have probelms oyu knwo which one is causing them.

I woudl start testosterone first as you are less liekly to have trouble

wiht it.

--

Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV

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http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

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[Guest guest]

On the sex hormones they can be VERY helpful to start them now but ONE

at a time so if oyu DO have probelms oyu knwo which one is causing them.

I woudl start testosterone first as you are less liekly to have trouble

wiht it.

--

Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV

http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HypoPets/

[Guest guest]

Forgot to post:

12/24/09:

TSH: 49.8

AST: 60

ALT: 75 (My internist says to go for an abdominal sonogram) and I think this is

related to my high TSH

vitamin d 25-hydroxy: 41.5

hemoglobin A1c: 4.3 (dunno how to bring this up)

>

> This is fabulous news, I think:

> On November 12 2009 I found out I have an RT3 issue. I had been taking 100

mcg. levoxyl plus 5 mcg. cytomel.

>

> I stopped taking levoxyl and slowly increased cytomel from 5 mcg and now am up

to 40 mcg.

>

> (I'm also taking cortef. (I started on Fludrocortisone and potassium about a

week and a half ago, so will retest electolytes next week)

>

> These are my labs for 11/04/09

> WBC: 3.4 (4.0-10.5)

> RBC: 3.87 (3.8-5.1)

> glucose: 78 (65-99)

> creatinine:.81 (.57-1.0)

> Bun: 13 (5-26)

> sodium: 139

> potassium: 3.8

> AST: 18

> ALT: 15

> phosphorus: 3.4 (2.5-4.5)

> Iron binding cap. 276

> UIBC: 181

> ANA negative (I've had thyroid cancer, and my ANA has been elevated until now)

> estradiol: 22

> TSH: 5.4 (.45-4.5)

> LDH: 140 (100-250)

> T3: 68 (83-200)

> magnesium: 2.0 (1.6-2.6)

> RT3: 429 (90-350)

> cortisol, 9 a.m.: 10.7

> ACTH,plasma: 11

> platelets; 165

>

> New labs: 12/24/09, fasting as well

> WBC: 5.1 Hurray!

> RBC: 3.76 (3.8-5.1)

> RDW: 15.4 (11.7-15.0) Dunno what this means

> platelets: 144 (140-415) Dunno why this went down

> glucose: 86 (hurray, an improvement)

> bun: 11

> creatinine: .64 (.57-1.0) better than Nov. labs

> ANA negative, hurray

> T4 free, direct: .07 (.82-1.77)

> DHEA-S: 6.6

> DHEA-S in Sept '09: 27

> T4: 0.6 (4.5-12.0) seems to correspond with the free t4

> T3: 108 (83-200)

> T3, free, serum: 2.5 (2.0-4.4)

> sed rate: 4

> magnesium, serum: 1.9 (1.6-2.6) this has gone down from 11/09

> ferritin: 15

> And now for the punchline:

> RT3: <17 (90-350)

>

> So from 11/12/09 until 1/4/10 my RT3 problem has entirely disappeared!

> Should I try armour/erfa? Or stay on the cytomel?

> I have an appt. with the ND this week and want to know whether to give armour

a trial. My pharmacist claims he has the old armour in stock, in all dosages. He

says he stocked up when the shortage came up.

> Thanks!

>

[Guest guest]

If i'm going to be starting testosterone maybe it's a good idea to hold off on the fludro increase? (currently on .5 a day)

Will I need less cortef if I'm on testosterone? (will I grow a beard? I'm terrified of adding andro hormones)

To: RT3_T3 Sent: Mon, January 4, 2010 6:05:01 PMSubject: Re: RT3 cleared so fast? Should I try Armour/Erfa?

On the sex hormones they can be VERY helpful to start them now but ONE at a time so if oyu DO have probelms oyu knwo which one is causing them. I woudl start testosterone first as you are less liekly to have trouble wiht it.-- Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WVhttp://www.stopthet hyroidmadness. com/http://health. groups.yahoo. com/group/ NaturalThyroidHo rmonesADRENALS/http://health. groups.yahoo. com/group/ RT3_T3/http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/HypoPets/

[Guest guest]

If i'm going to be starting testosterone maybe it's a good idea to hold off on the fludro increase? (currently on .5 a day)

Will I need less cortef if I'm on testosterone? (will I grow a beard? I'm terrified of adding andro hormones)

To: RT3_T3 Sent: Mon, January 4, 2010 6:05:01 PMSubject: Re: RT3 cleared so fast? Should I try Armour/Erfa?

On the sex hormones they can be VERY helpful to start them now but ONE at a time so if oyu DO have probelms oyu knwo which one is causing them. I woudl start testosterone first as you are less liekly to have trouble wiht it.-- Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WVhttp://www.stopthet hyroidmadness. com/http://health. groups.yahoo. com/group/ NaturalThyroidHo rmonesADRENALS/http://health. groups.yahoo. com/group/ RT3_T3/http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/HypoPets/

[Guest guest]

If i'm going to be starting testosterone maybe it's a good idea to hold off on the fludro increase? (currently on .5 a day)

Will I need less cortef if I'm on testosterone? (will I grow a beard? I'm terrified of adding andro hormones)

To: RT3_T3 Sent: Mon, January 4, 2010 6:05:01 PMSubject: Re: RT3 cleared so fast? Should I try Armour/Erfa?

On the sex hormones they can be VERY helpful to start them now but ONE at a time so if oyu DO have probelms oyu knwo which one is causing them. I woudl start testosterone first as you are less liekly to have trouble wiht it.-- Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WVhttp://www.stopthet hyroidmadness. com/http://health. groups.yahoo. com/group/ NaturalThyroidHo rmonesADRENALS/http://health. groups.yahoo. com/group/ RT3_T3/http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/HypoPets/

[Guest guest]

Hello,

Just curious why you thought the 86 glucose is an improvement over the prior

labs, which slowed a glucose of only 70 something.

Is it bad to have fasting glucose in the 70s?

Thanks,

Kathleen

> New labs: 12/24/09, fasting as well

> WBC: 5.1 Hurray!

> RBC: 3.76 (3.8-5.1)

> RDW: 15.4 (11.7-15.0) Dunno what this means

> platelets: 144 (140-415) Dunno why this went down

> glucose: 86 (hurray, an improvement)

> bun: 11

>

[Guest guest]

Hello,

Just curious why you thought the 86 glucose is an improvement over the prior

labs, which slowed a glucose of only 70 something.

Is it bad to have fasting glucose in the 70s?

Thanks,

Kathleen

> New labs: 12/24/09, fasting as well

> WBC: 5.1 Hurray!

> RBC: 3.76 (3.8-5.1)

> RDW: 15.4 (11.7-15.0) Dunno what this means

> platelets: 144 (140-415) Dunno why this went down

> glucose: 86 (hurray, an improvement)

> bun: 11

>

[Guest guest]

Hello,

Just curious why you thought the 86 glucose is an improvement over the prior

labs, which slowed a glucose of only 70 something.

Is it bad to have fasting glucose in the 70s?

Thanks,

Kathleen

> New labs: 12/24/09, fasting as well

> WBC: 5.1 Hurray!

> RBC: 3.76 (3.8-5.1)

> RDW: 15.4 (11.7-15.0) Dunno what this means

> platelets: 144 (140-415) Dunno why this went down

> glucose: 86 (hurray, an improvement)

> bun: 11

>