Guest guest Posted June 10, 2003 Report Share Posted June 10, 2003 Hi Valare, I think the insurance companies have people working for them whose sole job is to re-direct things for a few months until you give up : ) I have no advice for you as our surgery is covered by our provincial health plan in Ontario, but don't give up. Persistence usually pays off. I can tell you about my experience: I had upper/lower/genio and was banded with no splint for about 6 weeks. After one week, I was allowed to take the bands off for eating, cleaning and a bit of stretching to keep the jaw muscles a bit active. I woke up from surgery feeling great and never looked back. I was worried about not breathing too, but I remembered peoples' advice about not panicking. As soon as I was back in my room, I sat back and evaluated things - could I breathe through my nose? a little. could I breathe through my mouth? a little. Between the two, I decided I had enough intake to keep me going. They won't take the tubes out that help you breathe if you're having problems, so don't worry about that. I also asked the nurse to help clean out my nose (sorry to be gross, but it gets crusty) - they had nice long-handled qtips and distilled water for the job. She showed me how to do it myself, and I did it every few hours (basically everytime I ate or drank). I went through over 600 qtips in about 6 weeks of my recovery. Don't blow your nose! your surgeon should warn you, and he/she should also let you know when it's safe to do so. I was able to sit at the computer when I got home from hospital on day 2 post-op (not counting surgery day), but you'll find that you tire easily and your concentration will probably not be at its best for the first week or so. I took five weeks off work, and was still a bit tired going back. It's a good idea to take as much time for your recovery as possible. You'll find helpful people here, and some old archives and FAQs on this website: http://www.geocities.com/orthognathicinfo/ Hope that helps! Welcome to the group. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 10, 2003 Report Share Posted June 10, 2003 Hi Valare, I think the insurance companies have people working for them whose sole job is to re-direct things for a few months until you give up : ) I have no advice for you as our surgery is covered by our provincial health plan in Ontario, but don't give up. Persistence usually pays off. I can tell you about my experience: I had upper/lower/genio and was banded with no splint for about 6 weeks. After one week, I was allowed to take the bands off for eating, cleaning and a bit of stretching to keep the jaw muscles a bit active. I woke up from surgery feeling great and never looked back. I was worried about not breathing too, but I remembered peoples' advice about not panicking. As soon as I was back in my room, I sat back and evaluated things - could I breathe through my nose? a little. could I breathe through my mouth? a little. Between the two, I decided I had enough intake to keep me going. They won't take the tubes out that help you breathe if you're having problems, so don't worry about that. I also asked the nurse to help clean out my nose (sorry to be gross, but it gets crusty) - they had nice long-handled qtips and distilled water for the job. She showed me how to do it myself, and I did it every few hours (basically everytime I ate or drank). I went through over 600 qtips in about 6 weeks of my recovery. Don't blow your nose! your surgeon should warn you, and he/she should also let you know when it's safe to do so. I was able to sit at the computer when I got home from hospital on day 2 post-op (not counting surgery day), but you'll find that you tire easily and your concentration will probably not be at its best for the first week or so. I took five weeks off work, and was still a bit tired going back. It's a good idea to take as much time for your recovery as possible. You'll find helpful people here, and some old archives and FAQs on this website: http://www.geocities.com/orthognathicinfo/ Hope that helps! Welcome to the group. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 10, 2003 Report Share Posted June 10, 2003 Hi Valare, I think the insurance companies have people working for them whose sole job is to re-direct things for a few months until you give up : ) I have no advice for you as our surgery is covered by our provincial health plan in Ontario, but don't give up. Persistence usually pays off. I can tell you about my experience: I had upper/lower/genio and was banded with no splint for about 6 weeks. After one week, I was allowed to take the bands off for eating, cleaning and a bit of stretching to keep the jaw muscles a bit active. I woke up from surgery feeling great and never looked back. I was worried about not breathing too, but I remembered peoples' advice about not panicking. As soon as I was back in my room, I sat back and evaluated things - could I breathe through my nose? a little. could I breathe through my mouth? a little. Between the two, I decided I had enough intake to keep me going. They won't take the tubes out that help you breathe if you're having problems, so don't worry about that. I also asked the nurse to help clean out my nose (sorry to be gross, but it gets crusty) - they had nice long-handled qtips and distilled water for the job. She showed me how to do it myself, and I did it every few hours (basically everytime I ate or drank). I went through over 600 qtips in about 6 weeks of my recovery. Don't blow your nose! your surgeon should warn you, and he/she should also let you know when it's safe to do so. I was able to sit at the computer when I got home from hospital on day 2 post-op (not counting surgery day), but you'll find that you tire easily and your concentration will probably not be at its best for the first week or so. I took five weeks off work, and was still a bit tired going back. It's a good idea to take as much time for your recovery as possible. You'll find helpful people here, and some old archives and FAQs on this website: http://www.geocities.com/orthognathicinfo/ Hope that helps! Welcome to the group. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 10, 2003 Report Share Posted June 10, 2003 Hi - I never had issues getting my surgery approved but have dealt with insurance companies loosing stuff before. My suggestion is that you file a complaint with your state's department of insurance, should be under state government in the white pages. They will get it taken care of... > Hi Everyone, > > I am new to the group, surgery is scheduled for June 18th, BUT still waiting > for insurance to approve the surgery. WHAT A NIGHTMARE with Cigna!! They > have lost molds twice and all the the paperwork 7 times, getting someone to > take care of this as been a full time job. I was thinking it is kind of > good that I can focus on this and NOT on my surgery. > My main question is what was it like when you first woke up from the > surgery, my fear is not being able to breath well (I am having my upper and > lower done), I have heard that it is difficult to breath through your nose > because of the blood (sounds fun), in your sinuses. Any tips or ideas would > be GREATLY appreciated!! > Also, how long was it before you were able to actually do things (sit at the > computer, I am taking an online class). And is it difficult to talk after > surgery, if so how long did that last. > I was told that I would be totally banded closed for 7 days, what is it like > after they take the tight bands off? > I have a bazillion questions, but I will stop here for now. > Thanks to all how answer > Valare in Florida > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 10, 2003 Report Share Posted June 10, 2003 Hi - I never had issues getting my surgery approved but have dealt with insurance companies loosing stuff before. My suggestion is that you file a complaint with your state's department of insurance, should be under state government in the white pages. They will get it taken care of... > Hi Everyone, > > I am new to the group, surgery is scheduled for June 18th, BUT still waiting > for insurance to approve the surgery. WHAT A NIGHTMARE with Cigna!! They > have lost molds twice and all the the paperwork 7 times, getting someone to > take care of this as been a full time job. I was thinking it is kind of > good that I can focus on this and NOT on my surgery. > My main question is what was it like when you first woke up from the > surgery, my fear is not being able to breath well (I am having my upper and > lower done), I have heard that it is difficult to breath through your nose > because of the blood (sounds fun), in your sinuses. Any tips or ideas would > be GREATLY appreciated!! > Also, how long was it before you were able to actually do things (sit at the > computer, I am taking an online class). And is it difficult to talk after > surgery, if so how long did that last. > I was told that I would be totally banded closed for 7 days, what is it like > after they take the tight bands off? > I have a bazillion questions, but I will stop here for now. > Thanks to all how answer > Valare in Florida > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 10, 2003 Report Share Posted June 10, 2003 Hi - I never had issues getting my surgery approved but have dealt with insurance companies loosing stuff before. My suggestion is that you file a complaint with your state's department of insurance, should be under state government in the white pages. They will get it taken care of... > Hi Everyone, > > I am new to the group, surgery is scheduled for June 18th, BUT still waiting > for insurance to approve the surgery. WHAT A NIGHTMARE with Cigna!! They > have lost molds twice and all the the paperwork 7 times, getting someone to > take care of this as been a full time job. I was thinking it is kind of > good that I can focus on this and NOT on my surgery. > My main question is what was it like when you first woke up from the > surgery, my fear is not being able to breath well (I am having my upper and > lower done), I have heard that it is difficult to breath through your nose > because of the blood (sounds fun), in your sinuses. Any tips or ideas would > be GREATLY appreciated!! > Also, how long was it before you were able to actually do things (sit at the > computer, I am taking an online class). And is it difficult to talk after > surgery, if so how long did that last. > I was told that I would be totally banded closed for 7 days, what is it like > after they take the tight bands off? > I have a bazillion questions, but I will stop here for now. > Thanks to all how answer > Valare in Florida > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 10, 2003 Report Share Posted June 10, 2003 Hi Valarie! I just wanted to comment that you and I have the same surgery date. June 18! Welcome to the group too! I'm glad i have a surgery buddy now. I'm also having upper and lower done and also live in Florida. Small world! Good luck with your surgery and we'll have to keep in touch to compare notes. ~Becca > Hi Everyone, > > I am new to the group, surgery is scheduled for June 18th, BUT still waiting > for insurance to approve the surgery. WHAT A NIGHTMARE with Cigna!! They > have lost molds twice and all the the paperwork 7 times, getting someone to > take care of this as been a full time job. I was thinking it is kind of > good that I can focus on this and NOT on my surgery. > My main question is what was it like when you first woke up from the > surgery, my fear is not being able to breath well (I am having my upper and > lower done), I have heard that it is difficult to breath through your nose > because of the blood (sounds fun), in your sinuses. Any tips or ideas would > be GREATLY appreciated!! > Also, how long was it before you were able to actually do things (sit at the > computer, I am taking an online class). And is it difficult to talk after > surgery, if so how long did that last. > I was told that I would be totally banded closed for 7 days, what is it like > after they take the tight bands off? > I have a bazillion questions, but I will stop here for now. > Thanks to all how answer > Valare in Florida > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 11, 2003 Report Share Posted June 11, 2003 Hello Valare in Florida, I am Tonia from Naples Florida...lol.. I had the surgery about 11 weeks ago. I had upper and lower done to correct my cross bite and under bite. I too had the worst time with my insurance it took a year before they finally approved the surgery then another year for me to be ready with the braces. Everyone is different when they wake up from surgery but when I woke up I felt like I wasn't getting enough air. That caused me to panic and start to cry. That made it even worst, so my suggestion is to be aware that you may feel this way and when you wake up to just try to breath in and out very carefully without upsetting yourself. Cause if you get upset it will be harder to breath, believe me. I was so scared that I was going to die because of me not being able to breath that I held on the the nurses panic button in one hand and the IV button in the other hand for my pain medication.. ..lol. The first day is the hardest, cause that is when you will see the swelling, and for me I was wired shut with a splint. I stayed that way for six long weeks on a liquid diet. That was really tough, I think I went though some personality changes in those 6 weeks. You never know what a good thing is until you don't have it any more. I wanted food so bad, I think that is why I was so miserable during the 6 weeks was cause I couldn't get myself to enjoy liquid food. I returned to work after the first week, the second week I did half days, I wasn't able to talk very well due to the splint muffling my words, but I had a computer job so I didn't actually have like physical work to do or anything. I didn't drive until my third week and I was on the computer once I got home. I was able to walk around without being dizzy, I did feel tired a lot though. Like I said before I was wired shut with a splint for 6 weeks but when they took my wires off I couldn't open my mouth very wide at all. I am slowly getting my jaw to open up wider each day, just takes time. I was basically numb on my upper lips, nose, checks, gums, top of my mouth, and my lips got chaped a lot. All of my feelings have returned but the top of my mouth is still numb. My doctor isn't concerned about it yet says it can take up to a year to return. I did have a lot of sinuses issues during the first three weeks, using q-tips helps a lot. Well, hope I helped you out a little, If you have any other questions feel free to ask. Also I think I should add that in the first 5 weeks I couldn't believe that I did this to myself. I regretted the whole thing, I just wanted to cry I didn't like the way I looked, I didn't like that I put my self in this situation at all. BUT know I am very happy with the results and I am very glade that I did have the surgery. I don't think I would do it again though....Well maybe...lol Tonia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 11, 2003 Report Share Posted June 11, 2003 Hello Valare in Florida, I am Tonia from Naples Florida...lol.. I had the surgery about 11 weeks ago. I had upper and lower done to correct my cross bite and under bite. I too had the worst time with my insurance it took a year before they finally approved the surgery then another year for me to be ready with the braces. Everyone is different when they wake up from surgery but when I woke up I felt like I wasn't getting enough air. That caused me to panic and start to cry. That made it even worst, so my suggestion is to be aware that you may feel this way and when you wake up to just try to breath in and out very carefully without upsetting yourself. Cause if you get upset it will be harder to breath, believe me. I was so scared that I was going to die because of me not being able to breath that I held on the the nurses panic button in one hand and the IV button in the other hand for my pain medication.. ..lol. The first day is the hardest, cause that is when you will see the swelling, and for me I was wired shut with a splint. I stayed that way for six long weeks on a liquid diet. That was really tough, I think I went though some personality changes in those 6 weeks. You never know what a good thing is until you don't have it any more. I wanted food so bad, I think that is why I was so miserable during the 6 weeks was cause I couldn't get myself to enjoy liquid food. I returned to work after the first week, the second week I did half days, I wasn't able to talk very well due to the splint muffling my words, but I had a computer job so I didn't actually have like physical work to do or anything. I didn't drive until my third week and I was on the computer once I got home. I was able to walk around without being dizzy, I did feel tired a lot though. Like I said before I was wired shut with a splint for 6 weeks but when they took my wires off I couldn't open my mouth very wide at all. I am slowly getting my jaw to open up wider each day, just takes time. I was basically numb on my upper lips, nose, checks, gums, top of my mouth, and my lips got chaped a lot. All of my feelings have returned but the top of my mouth is still numb. My doctor isn't concerned about it yet says it can take up to a year to return. I did have a lot of sinuses issues during the first three weeks, using q-tips helps a lot. Well, hope I helped you out a little, If you have any other questions feel free to ask. Also I think I should add that in the first 5 weeks I couldn't believe that I did this to myself. I regretted the whole thing, I just wanted to cry I didn't like the way I looked, I didn't like that I put my self in this situation at all. BUT know I am very happy with the results and I am very glade that I did have the surgery. I don't think I would do it again though....Well maybe...lol Tonia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 11, 2003 Report Share Posted June 11, 2003 Hello Valare in Florida, I am Tonia from Naples Florida...lol.. I had the surgery about 11 weeks ago. I had upper and lower done to correct my cross bite and under bite. I too had the worst time with my insurance it took a year before they finally approved the surgery then another year for me to be ready with the braces. Everyone is different when they wake up from surgery but when I woke up I felt like I wasn't getting enough air. That caused me to panic and start to cry. That made it even worst, so my suggestion is to be aware that you may feel this way and when you wake up to just try to breath in and out very carefully without upsetting yourself. Cause if you get upset it will be harder to breath, believe me. I was so scared that I was going to die because of me not being able to breath that I held on the the nurses panic button in one hand and the IV button in the other hand for my pain medication.. ..lol. The first day is the hardest, cause that is when you will see the swelling, and for me I was wired shut with a splint. I stayed that way for six long weeks on a liquid diet. That was really tough, I think I went though some personality changes in those 6 weeks. You never know what a good thing is until you don't have it any more. I wanted food so bad, I think that is why I was so miserable during the 6 weeks was cause I couldn't get myself to enjoy liquid food. I returned to work after the first week, the second week I did half days, I wasn't able to talk very well due to the splint muffling my words, but I had a computer job so I didn't actually have like physical work to do or anything. I didn't drive until my third week and I was on the computer once I got home. I was able to walk around without being dizzy, I did feel tired a lot though. Like I said before I was wired shut with a splint for 6 weeks but when they took my wires off I couldn't open my mouth very wide at all. I am slowly getting my jaw to open up wider each day, just takes time. I was basically numb on my upper lips, nose, checks, gums, top of my mouth, and my lips got chaped a lot. All of my feelings have returned but the top of my mouth is still numb. My doctor isn't concerned about it yet says it can take up to a year to return. I did have a lot of sinuses issues during the first three weeks, using q-tips helps a lot. Well, hope I helped you out a little, If you have any other questions feel free to ask. Also I think I should add that in the first 5 weeks I couldn't believe that I did this to myself. I regretted the whole thing, I just wanted to cry I didn't like the way I looked, I didn't like that I put my self in this situation at all. BUT know I am very happy with the results and I am very glade that I did have the surgery. I don't think I would do it again though....Well maybe...lol Tonia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 11, 2003 Report Share Posted June 11, 2003 Hi Becca, It really is a small world! I just found out that insurance company has approved my surgery, so we are official surgery buddies . Where do you live in Florida? I am from the east coast in Melbourne. Now that I KNOW it is the 18th I can begin to prepare my mind Talk to you soon, Valarie > Hi Valarie! I just wanted to comment that you and I have the > same surgery date. June 18! Welcome to the group too! I'm glad i > have a surgery buddy now. I'm also having upper and lower done and > also live in Florida. Small world! > Good luck with your surgery and we'll have to keep in touch to > compare notes. > > ~Becca > > > > >> > Hi Everyone, >> > >> > I am new to the group, surgery is scheduled for June 18th, BUT > still waiting >> > for insurance to approve the surgery. WHAT A NIGHTMARE with > Cigna!! They >> > have lost molds twice and all the the paperwork 7 times, getting > someone to >> > take care of this as been a full time job. I was thinking it is > kind of >> > good that I can focus on this and NOT on my surgery. >> > My main question is what was it like when you first woke up from the >> > surgery, my fear is not being able to breath well (I am having my > upper and >> > lower done), I have heard that it is difficult to breath through > your nose >> > because of the blood (sounds fun), in your sinuses. Any tips or > ideas would >> > be GREATLY appreciated!! >> > Also, how long was it before you were able to actually do things > (sit at the >> > computer, I am taking an online class). And is it difficult to > talk after >> > surgery, if so how long did that last. >> > I was told that I would be totally banded closed for 7 days, what > is it like >> > after they take the tight bands off? >> > I have a bazillion questions, but I will stop here for now. >> > Thanks to all how answer >> > Valare in Florida >> > >> > >> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 11, 2003 Report Share Posted June 11, 2003 Hi Becca, It really is a small world! I just found out that insurance company has approved my surgery, so we are official surgery buddies . Where do you live in Florida? I am from the east coast in Melbourne. Now that I KNOW it is the 18th I can begin to prepare my mind Talk to you soon, Valarie > Hi Valarie! I just wanted to comment that you and I have the > same surgery date. June 18! Welcome to the group too! I'm glad i > have a surgery buddy now. I'm also having upper and lower done and > also live in Florida. Small world! > Good luck with your surgery and we'll have to keep in touch to > compare notes. > > ~Becca > > > > >> > Hi Everyone, >> > >> > I am new to the group, surgery is scheduled for June 18th, BUT > still waiting >> > for insurance to approve the surgery. WHAT A NIGHTMARE with > Cigna!! They >> > have lost molds twice and all the the paperwork 7 times, getting > someone to >> > take care of this as been a full time job. I was thinking it is > kind of >> > good that I can focus on this and NOT on my surgery. >> > My main question is what was it like when you first woke up from the >> > surgery, my fear is not being able to breath well (I am having my > upper and >> > lower done), I have heard that it is difficult to breath through > your nose >> > because of the blood (sounds fun), in your sinuses. Any tips or > ideas would >> > be GREATLY appreciated!! >> > Also, how long was it before you were able to actually do things > (sit at the >> > computer, I am taking an online class). And is it difficult to > talk after >> > surgery, if so how long did that last. >> > I was told that I would be totally banded closed for 7 days, what > is it like >> > after they take the tight bands off? >> > I have a bazillion questions, but I will stop here for now. >> > Thanks to all how answer >> > Valare in Florida >> > >> > >> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 11, 2003 Report Share Posted June 11, 2003 Hi Becca, It really is a small world! I just found out that insurance company has approved my surgery, so we are official surgery buddies . Where do you live in Florida? I am from the east coast in Melbourne. Now that I KNOW it is the 18th I can begin to prepare my mind Talk to you soon, Valarie > Hi Valarie! I just wanted to comment that you and I have the > same surgery date. June 18! Welcome to the group too! I'm glad i > have a surgery buddy now. I'm also having upper and lower done and > also live in Florida. Small world! > Good luck with your surgery and we'll have to keep in touch to > compare notes. > > ~Becca > > > > >> > Hi Everyone, >> > >> > I am new to the group, surgery is scheduled for June 18th, BUT > still waiting >> > for insurance to approve the surgery. WHAT A NIGHTMARE with > Cigna!! They >> > have lost molds twice and all the the paperwork 7 times, getting > someone to >> > take care of this as been a full time job. I was thinking it is > kind of >> > good that I can focus on this and NOT on my surgery. >> > My main question is what was it like when you first woke up from the >> > surgery, my fear is not being able to breath well (I am having my > upper and >> > lower done), I have heard that it is difficult to breath through > your nose >> > because of the blood (sounds fun), in your sinuses. Any tips or > ideas would >> > be GREATLY appreciated!! >> > Also, how long was it before you were able to actually do things > (sit at the >> > computer, I am taking an online class). And is it difficult to > talk after >> > surgery, if so how long did that last. >> > I was told that I would be totally banded closed for 7 days, what > is it like >> > after they take the tight bands off? >> > I have a bazillion questions, but I will stop here for now. >> > Thanks to all how answer >> > Valare in Florida >> > >> > >> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 11, 2003 Report Share Posted June 11, 2003 , Thanks so much for you email, lots of good info for me I just found out that my surgery has been approved through Cigna, so now I can get ready mentally, as much as I possibly can Thanks again!! Valarie On 6/10/03 12:30 PM, " fiddlesticks220001 " <no_reply > wrote: > Hi Valare, > > I think the insurance companies have people working for them whose > sole job is to re-direct things for a few months until you give > up : ) I have no advice for you as our surgery is covered by our > provincial health plan in Ontario, but don't give up. Persistence > usually pays off. > > I can tell you about my experience: I had upper/lower/genio and was > banded with no splint for about 6 weeks. After one week, I was > allowed to take the bands off for eating, cleaning and a bit of > stretching to keep the jaw muscles a bit active. > > I woke up from surgery feeling great and never looked back. I was > worried about not breathing too, but I remembered peoples' advice > about not panicking. As soon as I was back in my room, I sat back and > evaluated things - could I breathe through my nose? a little. could I > breathe through my mouth? a little. Between the two, I decided I had > enough intake to keep me going. They won't take the tubes out that > help you breathe if you're having problems, so don't worry about that. > > I also asked the nurse to help clean out my nose (sorry to be gross, > but it gets crusty) - they had nice long-handled qtips and distilled > water for the job. She showed me how to do it myself, and I did it > every few hours (basically everytime I ate or drank). I went through > over 600 qtips in about 6 weeks of my recovery. Don't blow your nose! > your surgeon should warn you, and he/she should also let you know > when it's safe to do so. > > I was able to sit at the computer when I got home from hospital on > day 2 post-op (not counting surgery day), but you'll find that you > tire easily and your concentration will probably not be at its best > for the first week or so. I took five weeks off work, and was still a > bit tired going back. It's a good idea to take as much time for your > recovery as possible. > > You'll find helpful people here, and some old archives and FAQs on > this website: http://www.geocities.com/orthognathicinfo/ > > Hope that helps! Welcome to the group. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 11, 2003 Report Share Posted June 11, 2003 , Thanks so much for you email, lots of good info for me I just found out that my surgery has been approved through Cigna, so now I can get ready mentally, as much as I possibly can Thanks again!! Valarie On 6/10/03 12:30 PM, " fiddlesticks220001 " <no_reply > wrote: > Hi Valare, > > I think the insurance companies have people working for them whose > sole job is to re-direct things for a few months until you give > up : ) I have no advice for you as our surgery is covered by our > provincial health plan in Ontario, but don't give up. Persistence > usually pays off. > > I can tell you about my experience: I had upper/lower/genio and was > banded with no splint for about 6 weeks. After one week, I was > allowed to take the bands off for eating, cleaning and a bit of > stretching to keep the jaw muscles a bit active. > > I woke up from surgery feeling great and never looked back. I was > worried about not breathing too, but I remembered peoples' advice > about not panicking. As soon as I was back in my room, I sat back and > evaluated things - could I breathe through my nose? a little. could I > breathe through my mouth? a little. Between the two, I decided I had > enough intake to keep me going. They won't take the tubes out that > help you breathe if you're having problems, so don't worry about that. > > I also asked the nurse to help clean out my nose (sorry to be gross, > but it gets crusty) - they had nice long-handled qtips and distilled > water for the job. She showed me how to do it myself, and I did it > every few hours (basically everytime I ate or drank). I went through > over 600 qtips in about 6 weeks of my recovery. Don't blow your nose! > your surgeon should warn you, and he/she should also let you know > when it's safe to do so. > > I was able to sit at the computer when I got home from hospital on > day 2 post-op (not counting surgery day), but you'll find that you > tire easily and your concentration will probably not be at its best > for the first week or so. I took five weeks off work, and was still a > bit tired going back. It's a good idea to take as much time for your > recovery as possible. > > You'll find helpful people here, and some old archives and FAQs on > this website: http://www.geocities.com/orthognathicinfo/ > > Hope that helps! Welcome to the group. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 11, 2003 Report Share Posted June 11, 2003 , Thanks so much for you email, lots of good info for me I just found out that my surgery has been approved through Cigna, so now I can get ready mentally, as much as I possibly can Thanks again!! Valarie On 6/10/03 12:30 PM, " fiddlesticks220001 " <no_reply > wrote: > Hi Valare, > > I think the insurance companies have people working for them whose > sole job is to re-direct things for a few months until you give > up : ) I have no advice for you as our surgery is covered by our > provincial health plan in Ontario, but don't give up. Persistence > usually pays off. > > I can tell you about my experience: I had upper/lower/genio and was > banded with no splint for about 6 weeks. After one week, I was > allowed to take the bands off for eating, cleaning and a bit of > stretching to keep the jaw muscles a bit active. > > I woke up from surgery feeling great and never looked back. I was > worried about not breathing too, but I remembered peoples' advice > about not panicking. As soon as I was back in my room, I sat back and > evaluated things - could I breathe through my nose? a little. could I > breathe through my mouth? a little. Between the two, I decided I had > enough intake to keep me going. They won't take the tubes out that > help you breathe if you're having problems, so don't worry about that. > > I also asked the nurse to help clean out my nose (sorry to be gross, > but it gets crusty) - they had nice long-handled qtips and distilled > water for the job. She showed me how to do it myself, and I did it > every few hours (basically everytime I ate or drank). I went through > over 600 qtips in about 6 weeks of my recovery. Don't blow your nose! > your surgeon should warn you, and he/she should also let you know > when it's safe to do so. > > I was able to sit at the computer when I got home from hospital on > day 2 post-op (not counting surgery day), but you'll find that you > tire easily and your concentration will probably not be at its best > for the first week or so. I took five weeks off work, and was still a > bit tired going back. It's a good idea to take as much time for your > recovery as possible. > > You'll find helpful people here, and some old archives and FAQs on > this website: http://www.geocities.com/orthognathicinfo/ > > Hope that helps! Welcome to the group. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 11, 2003 Report Share Posted June 11, 2003 Hi Tonia, Thanks for all of the good info, I hope I will be able to be so calm about the breathing issue I am sure I will be 2 fisted with the drugs and call button in the other. I need to be sure to use the Qtips too! Thanks so much! Valarie > Hello Valare in Florida, > > I am Tonia from Naples Florida...lol.. I had the surgery about 11 weeks ago. > I had upper and lower done to correct my cross bite and under bite. I too had > the worst time with my insurance it took a year before they finally approved > the surgery then another year for me to be ready with the braces. > > Everyone is different when they wake up from surgery but when I woke up I felt > like I wasn't getting enough air. That caused me to panic and start to cry. > That made it even worst, so my suggestion is to be aware that you may feel > this way and when you wake up to just try to breath in and out very carefully > without upsetting yourself. Cause if you get upset it will be harder to > breath, believe me. I was so scared that I was going to die because of me not > being able to breath that I held on the the nurses panic button in one hand > and the IV button in the other hand for my pain medication.. ..lol. The first > day is the hardest, cause that is when you will see the swelling, and for me I > was wired shut with a splint. I stayed that way for six long weeks on a > liquid diet. That was really tough, I think I went though some personality > changes in those 6 weeks. You never know what a good thing is until you don't > have it any more. I! wanted food so bad, I think that is why I was so > miserable during the 6 weeks was cause I couldn't get myself to enjoy liquid > food. > > I returned to work after the first week, the second week I did half days, I > wasn't able to talk very well due to the splint muffling my words, but I had a > computer job so I didn't actually have like physical work to do or anything. > I didn't drive until my third week and I was on the computer once I got home. > I was able to walk around without being dizzy, I did feel tired a lot though. > > Like I said before I was wired shut with a splint for 6 weeks but when they > took my wires off I couldn't open my mouth very wide at all. I am slowly > getting my jaw to open up wider each day, just takes time. > > I was basically numb on my upper lips, nose, checks, gums, top of my mouth, > and my lips got chaped a lot. All of my feelings have returned but the top of > my mouth is still numb. My doctor isn't concerned about it yet says it can > take up to a year to return. > > I did have a lot of sinuses issues during the first three weeks, using q-tips > helps a lot. > > Well, hope I helped you out a little, If you have any other questions feel > free to ask. > > Also I think I should add that in the first 5 weeks I couldn't believe that I > did this to myself. I regretted the whole thing, I just wanted to cry I > didn't like the way I looked, I didn't like that I put my self in this > situation at all. BUT know I am very happy with the results and I am very > glade that I did have the surgery. I don't think I would do it again > though....Well maybe...lol > > Tonia > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 11, 2003 Report Share Posted June 11, 2003 Hi Tonia, Thanks for all of the good info, I hope I will be able to be so calm about the breathing issue I am sure I will be 2 fisted with the drugs and call button in the other. I need to be sure to use the Qtips too! Thanks so much! Valarie > Hello Valare in Florida, > > I am Tonia from Naples Florida...lol.. I had the surgery about 11 weeks ago. > I had upper and lower done to correct my cross bite and under bite. I too had > the worst time with my insurance it took a year before they finally approved > the surgery then another year for me to be ready with the braces. > > Everyone is different when they wake up from surgery but when I woke up I felt > like I wasn't getting enough air. That caused me to panic and start to cry. > That made it even worst, so my suggestion is to be aware that you may feel > this way and when you wake up to just try to breath in and out very carefully > without upsetting yourself. Cause if you get upset it will be harder to > breath, believe me. I was so scared that I was going to die because of me not > being able to breath that I held on the the nurses panic button in one hand > and the IV button in the other hand for my pain medication.. ..lol. The first > day is the hardest, cause that is when you will see the swelling, and for me I > was wired shut with a splint. I stayed that way for six long weeks on a > liquid diet. That was really tough, I think I went though some personality > changes in those 6 weeks. You never know what a good thing is until you don't > have it any more. I! wanted food so bad, I think that is why I was so > miserable during the 6 weeks was cause I couldn't get myself to enjoy liquid > food. > > I returned to work after the first week, the second week I did half days, I > wasn't able to talk very well due to the splint muffling my words, but I had a > computer job so I didn't actually have like physical work to do or anything. > I didn't drive until my third week and I was on the computer once I got home. > I was able to walk around without being dizzy, I did feel tired a lot though. > > Like I said before I was wired shut with a splint for 6 weeks but when they > took my wires off I couldn't open my mouth very wide at all. I am slowly > getting my jaw to open up wider each day, just takes time. > > I was basically numb on my upper lips, nose, checks, gums, top of my mouth, > and my lips got chaped a lot. All of my feelings have returned but the top of > my mouth is still numb. My doctor isn't concerned about it yet says it can > take up to a year to return. > > I did have a lot of sinuses issues during the first three weeks, using q-tips > helps a lot. > > Well, hope I helped you out a little, If you have any other questions feel > free to ask. > > Also I think I should add that in the first 5 weeks I couldn't believe that I > did this to myself. I regretted the whole thing, I just wanted to cry I > didn't like the way I looked, I didn't like that I put my self in this > situation at all. BUT know I am very happy with the results and I am very > glade that I did have the surgery. I don't think I would do it again > though....Well maybe...lol > > Tonia > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 11, 2003 Report Share Posted June 11, 2003 Hooray for your approval! (get it in writing and put it in a lockbox) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 11, 2003 Report Share Posted June 11, 2003 I was wondering how long everyone stayed in the hospital? I will not be wired, banded, don¹t know if that matters. Just wondering if most of you went home after one nights stay. Valarie On 6/11/03 1:13 PM, " fiddlesticks220001 " <no_reply > wrote: > Hooray for your approval! (get it in writing and put it in a lockbox) > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 13, 2003 Report Share Posted June 13, 2003 Hello everyone. To answer a few questions for Valarie...I'm at the 5th week of post-op. I had both top and bottom done. I get my wires cut on the 17th!!! Can't wait. Anyways, about the breathing. I had a problem with that. Just remember that you are not limited to breathe through your nose. You can get some through your mouth. It also seemed that sitting up, standing, or walking helped clear up my breathing. Standing and walking will be easier to do in about 5 days post-op. Also sitting in the shower with the steam helps. Also when I was at the house, I sat with an umbrella over my head with a tea pot or whatever boiling water and used the umbrella to catch the steam. That felt good!!!! I also carefully used tweezers to get " stuff " out. I was in the hospital for 5 days. It might have been because we live 3-4 hours away from the hospital. Don't know. Also you may not recognize the changes but everyone that has seen me was like " i barely recognize you " . Even a bank teller who I rarely see. I was like wow ok maybe I do look different. Anymore questions? I'll try to answer what I know/went through. For Tonia: How hard was it after the six weeks of being wired shut to open your mouth? It hurt? Were you able to talk easy right after they were cut? Cause I can't talk worth crap right now being wired shut and the splint and all. Were you able to brush your teeth and roof of your mouth and everything fairly easy? What type of foods were you eating after being cut and how long before you ate pizza and hamburgers? I swear that is all I saw on T.V. were those commercials. LOL I wanted to punch in the T.V. Also does anyone have any pointers on returning to athletics/weight lifting. That is the thing I miss the most from all this. Even more then the food. Doctor said that I wouldn't be able to return to basketball (full contact/real games) until October. But I was wondering how long before some of yall started " running " and getting back in shape and/or lifting again. Doctor said I can start lifting lightly in approx. 2 weeks. But that I can lift heavy for 3 months after surgery. Thanks everyone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 13, 2003 Report Share Posted June 13, 2003 Hello everyone. To answer a few questions for Valarie...I'm at the 5th week of post-op. I had both top and bottom done. I get my wires cut on the 17th!!! Can't wait. Anyways, about the breathing. I had a problem with that. Just remember that you are not limited to breathe through your nose. You can get some through your mouth. It also seemed that sitting up, standing, or walking helped clear up my breathing. Standing and walking will be easier to do in about 5 days post-op. Also sitting in the shower with the steam helps. Also when I was at the house, I sat with an umbrella over my head with a tea pot or whatever boiling water and used the umbrella to catch the steam. That felt good!!!! I also carefully used tweezers to get " stuff " out. I was in the hospital for 5 days. It might have been because we live 3-4 hours away from the hospital. Don't know. Also you may not recognize the changes but everyone that has seen me was like " i barely recognize you " . Even a bank teller who I rarely see. I was like wow ok maybe I do look different. Anymore questions? I'll try to answer what I know/went through. For Tonia: How hard was it after the six weeks of being wired shut to open your mouth? It hurt? Were you able to talk easy right after they were cut? Cause I can't talk worth crap right now being wired shut and the splint and all. Were you able to brush your teeth and roof of your mouth and everything fairly easy? What type of foods were you eating after being cut and how long before you ate pizza and hamburgers? I swear that is all I saw on T.V. were those commercials. LOL I wanted to punch in the T.V. Also does anyone have any pointers on returning to athletics/weight lifting. That is the thing I miss the most from all this. Even more then the food. Doctor said that I wouldn't be able to return to basketball (full contact/real games) until October. But I was wondering how long before some of yall started " running " and getting back in shape and/or lifting again. Doctor said I can start lifting lightly in approx. 2 weeks. But that I can lift heavy for 3 months after surgery. Thanks everyone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 13, 2003 Report Share Posted June 13, 2003 Hello everyone. To answer a few questions for Valarie...I'm at the 5th week of post-op. I had both top and bottom done. I get my wires cut on the 17th!!! Can't wait. Anyways, about the breathing. I had a problem with that. Just remember that you are not limited to breathe through your nose. You can get some through your mouth. It also seemed that sitting up, standing, or walking helped clear up my breathing. Standing and walking will be easier to do in about 5 days post-op. Also sitting in the shower with the steam helps. Also when I was at the house, I sat with an umbrella over my head with a tea pot or whatever boiling water and used the umbrella to catch the steam. That felt good!!!! I also carefully used tweezers to get " stuff " out. I was in the hospital for 5 days. It might have been because we live 3-4 hours away from the hospital. Don't know. Also you may not recognize the changes but everyone that has seen me was like " i barely recognize you " . Even a bank teller who I rarely see. I was like wow ok maybe I do look different. Anymore questions? I'll try to answer what I know/went through. For Tonia: How hard was it after the six weeks of being wired shut to open your mouth? It hurt? Were you able to talk easy right after they were cut? Cause I can't talk worth crap right now being wired shut and the splint and all. Were you able to brush your teeth and roof of your mouth and everything fairly easy? What type of foods were you eating after being cut and how long before you ate pizza and hamburgers? I swear that is all I saw on T.V. were those commercials. LOL I wanted to punch in the T.V. Also does anyone have any pointers on returning to athletics/weight lifting. That is the thing I miss the most from all this. Even more then the food. Doctor said that I wouldn't be able to return to basketball (full contact/real games) until October. But I was wondering how long before some of yall started " running " and getting back in shape and/or lifting again. Doctor said I can start lifting lightly in approx. 2 weeks. But that I can lift heavy for 3 months after surgery. Thanks everyone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 16, 2003 Report Share Posted June 16, 2003 Welcome to the group...even though I'm not very active. I'm pretty much in your situation in that I just found out that I can't get my teeth straightened by an orth unless I get the surgery to correct my underbite. What is and open bite? is that where you bite down and there's a gap between your upper and lower teeth in the front? I don't know if the pics should scare you cuz it's a temporary thing. The pics don't scare me at all in terms of the appearance cuz I know it's temporary, but the potential for depression because of the discomfort and inability to eat real food scares me. The cost, too, scares me, and probably won't be able to have the surgery if insurance doesn't pick up a significant portion of it, and may just have to suffer the consequences later in life from a bad underbite and crooked teeth. I'm already 38, and if I can't afford it now, by the time I could I'd probably be too old for it to be worth it. I think reading other posts and talking with your surgeon you'll come up with questions. What did he say, by the way? If you don't mind, what kind of cost was he talking about? I have an appt with and surgeon July 3. > Hi Everyone. I am new to the group, found it thru a search engine. I > am 24 and last week met with an Oral surgeon thru the recommendation > of my boss, an orthodontist. I have an open bite, have for years, > even though i already went thru the braces routine. The pictures i > have seen, as well as the cost of surgery has sent me into shock > mode! Although the surgeon has discussed a discount of some amount, i > haven't gotten that far with him yet. I am to have an MRI this friday > so he can get an idea of how bad damage is to my jaw. > > I dont even know what questions to ask and feel very overwhelmed by > the whole thing. HELP! > I've read some of your posts here and am just not sure where to > start. > Thanks for any input. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 16, 2003 Report Share Posted June 16, 2003 Welcome to the group...even though I'm not very active. I'm pretty much in your situation in that I just found out that I can't get my teeth straightened by an orth unless I get the surgery to correct my underbite. What is and open bite? is that where you bite down and there's a gap between your upper and lower teeth in the front? I don't know if the pics should scare you cuz it's a temporary thing. The pics don't scare me at all in terms of the appearance cuz I know it's temporary, but the potential for depression because of the discomfort and inability to eat real food scares me. The cost, too, scares me, and probably won't be able to have the surgery if insurance doesn't pick up a significant portion of it, and may just have to suffer the consequences later in life from a bad underbite and crooked teeth. I'm already 38, and if I can't afford it now, by the time I could I'd probably be too old for it to be worth it. I think reading other posts and talking with your surgeon you'll come up with questions. What did he say, by the way? If you don't mind, what kind of cost was he talking about? I have an appt with and surgeon July 3. > Hi Everyone. I am new to the group, found it thru a search engine. I > am 24 and last week met with an Oral surgeon thru the recommendation > of my boss, an orthodontist. I have an open bite, have for years, > even though i already went thru the braces routine. The pictures i > have seen, as well as the cost of surgery has sent me into shock > mode! Although the surgeon has discussed a discount of some amount, i > haven't gotten that far with him yet. I am to have an MRI this friday > so he can get an idea of how bad damage is to my jaw. > > I dont even know what questions to ask and feel very overwhelmed by > the whole thing. HELP! > I've read some of your posts here and am just not sure where to > start. > Thanks for any input. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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