Re: perspective on bad foods

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Welcome! You can a get a lot of this subject from the book IE.  Gillian also divides food into 3 groups: (1)Those you like/love, (2)Those you do not like, (3)Those that HONOR/not honor your body.  It sounds as if maybe grains for you fall into that last group for whatever reason.  It sounds like your body is telling you(you don't feel good) that eating a lot of grains may not honor your body but are not bad or good. This 3 group definition helped me a lot.  Sandy

 

I mostly lurk on the group but i appreciate the perspectives i see here. My question today has to do with this idea of labeling foods " bad " or " good. " ly, i feel better when i eat fewer grains, but that doesn't mean i avoid them when i am eating for non-hunger reasons. So while I am not labeling grains as bad, i am wondering if there is some sort of labeling middle-ground.

I guess the difference is i am not eating very many grains right now, BECAUSE they are grains, not because they are " bad. " and when i say right now, i do see this as a general long-term plan because i feel better without them.

Is this what IE calls dieting? I am trying to learn how to get away from either-or thinking, which is definitely my first and best-loved language. I am learning the language of both-and. So, grains are not the best first choice for me, AND ... What?

Just thinking about how to be good to myself, whatever all that entails.susanSent from my Verizon Wireless Smartphone----- Reply message -----From: IntuitiveEating_Support

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incisayman

Thu Dec 8, 2011 6:20 am (PST)

LOL. It's sad that I actually used to come close to thinking this way.. I wouldn't have had a pound of bacon instead of an apple, but I would have done something like having tons of cheese rather than a small pasta salad.. Yep. Lying to myself, that's for sure.

 

Mimi

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Subject: Keeping an Eye Open

To: " IntuitiveEating_Support " <IntuitiveEating_Support >

Date: Thursday, December 8, 2011, 10:08 AM

 

OK, so I've committed to making peace with food and my appetite and not making a bunch of rules I can't adhere to and promises I can't keep.

BUT..... I do not want to gain weight. I'm at a healthy weight right now, have been for several years.  I do go 5 or so pounds above and below a central ballpark, which computes to 10-pound yo-yo'ing, which probably isn't that big a deal, probably a biologically natural seasonal thing (up in winter, down in summer) but there's a point at which I say " Uh-oh! " and that point has been reached.

Yes, I do weigh myself.... maybe once a month, no schedule, just a check-in, kind of like getting a cholesterol test. Right now I'm at the top of my yo-yo, the middle number being the one I consider my wake-up call. Yes, my jeans have been feeling tighter. For me personally, this doesn't mean I need bigger jeans, it means I'm eating more than I need to. Note I didn't say " more than I SHOULD " -- I'm doing away with " should. " I'm eating more than I *need to.*

So I want to pay closer attention to what I need and don't need without getting into " should " and " shouldn't. " I guess " respect " is what I want from myself. And " honor, " as in our current Principle #2 discussion: honoring my hunger and satisfaction, and honoring myself with good nutrition, without getting all fouled up in what someone else says I " should " eat (X servings of Y a day, Z instead of A, imaginary portion divisions on a plate.)

Thanks for listening.... I'm really just talking to myself out loud. It helps.

Ellie

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sanamu1234

Thu Dec 8, 2011 9:23 am (PST)

I hear you. I recently started to get uncomfortable with what feels like a weight gain over the past few months. And while I realize some weight gain is normal when starting out on IE, I decided to see if I could interrupt whatever was leading me to overeat.

I started reading my copy of The Overfed Head which is helping me listen more closely to the body. I realize now that I've been lying to myself a bit by luxuriating in eating and not bothering to notice as truthfully the effects of my eating. Also, I've been in my head with this more than in my body.

Right now - I'm hungry and asking what I actually feel like eating, rather than reflexing into choosing what I'd want if my fff's were to become illegal again tomorrow.

It's tricky though - and sometimes I lie to myself about what I want because my head is still in the power/control game. I'm learning that if I sort of breathe into the body - I can tell if I really want something or not.

Takes discipline though; something I've never been long on. But, I'm learning.

Sandarah

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> I'm a 50 year old mom who works full time and raises a challenging 13 year old and tries to keep a 54 year old husband in check (j/k). I just bought a copy of IE and my friend and I are doing it together. She actually got an IE counselor but I can't afford to go that route. Lots of years of dieting and losing and gaining the same 20 pounds more often than I can count. Right now the scale is creeping up and I am just frankly tired. And not getting younger. I'm looking for support on this journey and I want to say thank you to everyone in advance for just being here. Michele

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