Re: Desperate for Answers...going crazy!

[Guest guest]

Something that happened with us with this was lack of soluable fiber. Beans are

working wonders for us, plus LOTS of magnesium. Killing off tons of yeast will

really back up the stool also. double edged sword really.

jenib

>

>

> PLEASE Help me to understand this!

>

> How can my 11 yo son still have YEAST?

>

> We started the SCD 9 months ago and we are following it very strictly!

>

> We have done the following treatments:

>

> Flagyl -- 9 months ago; 20 days

>

> Fluconazole -- following the Flagyl 9 months ago; 21 days

>

> Ketoconazole -- 7 months ago; 21 days

>

> Ketoconazole -- 3 months ago; 21 days

>

> Flagyl -- following the Ketoconazole 3 months ago; 20 days

>

> 3-day in hospital Bowel Clean-out due to severely impacted bowels -- 3

> weeks ago

>

> *** The bowel clean-out proves that our son has been severly constipated

> for years, even though he was having large BMs every 3-4 days. The

> stool before the last Flagyl treatment had been formed by soft but this

> last treatment caused his stools to hardened which led to a tremendous

> amount pain. An x-ray showed just how full his intestines were with

> stool -- A LOT!

>

> ***With him having so much yeasty stool that hardened, could this be why

> all the previous treatments to rid him of the yeast failed?***

>

> Within 5 DAYS of the bowel clean-out he broke out into a YEAST RASH!

>

> We've since started another Ketoconazole treatment 2 weeks ago (with

> Charcoal for the die-off which has been tough)

>

> The rash is clearing -- but VERY SLOWLY -- and we only have one more

> week of the ketoconazole.

>

> WHY HASN'T THE YEAST LEFT HIS BODY??

>

> I, for certain, thought that after doing the bowel clean-out which got

> rid of all the yeasty stool, we would have combatted the YEAST problem.

>

> Is this possible YEAST DIE-OFF from the intestinal walls? If so, what

> happens if this 21 day ketoconazole treatment doesn't get it all? What

> do we do then?

>

> HELP

>

[Guest guest]

Something that happened with us with this was lack of soluable fiber. Beans are

working wonders for us, plus LOTS of magnesium. Killing off tons of yeast will

really back up the stool also. double edged sword really.

jenib

>

>

> PLEASE Help me to understand this!

>

> How can my 11 yo son still have YEAST?

>

> We started the SCD 9 months ago and we are following it very strictly!

>

> We have done the following treatments:

>

> Flagyl -- 9 months ago; 20 days

>

> Fluconazole -- following the Flagyl 9 months ago; 21 days

>

> Ketoconazole -- 7 months ago; 21 days

>

> Ketoconazole -- 3 months ago; 21 days

>

> Flagyl -- following the Ketoconazole 3 months ago; 20 days

>

> 3-day in hospital Bowel Clean-out due to severely impacted bowels -- 3

> weeks ago

>

> *** The bowel clean-out proves that our son has been severly constipated

> for years, even though he was having large BMs every 3-4 days. The

> stool before the last Flagyl treatment had been formed by soft but this

> last treatment caused his stools to hardened which led to a tremendous

> amount pain. An x-ray showed just how full his intestines were with

> stool -- A LOT!

>

> ***With him having so much yeasty stool that hardened, could this be why

> all the previous treatments to rid him of the yeast failed?***

>

> Within 5 DAYS of the bowel clean-out he broke out into a YEAST RASH!

>

> We've since started another Ketoconazole treatment 2 weeks ago (with

> Charcoal for the die-off which has been tough)

>

> The rash is clearing -- but VERY SLOWLY -- and we only have one more

> week of the ketoconazole.

>

> WHY HASN'T THE YEAST LEFT HIS BODY??

>

> I, for certain, thought that after doing the bowel clean-out which got

> rid of all the yeasty stool, we would have combatted the YEAST problem.

>

> Is this possible YEAST DIE-OFF from the intestinal walls? If so, what

> happens if this 21 day ketoconazole treatment doesn't get it all? What

> do we do then?

>

> HELP

>

[Guest guest]

You will never get rid of all the yeast. It is a natural part of our internal

ecosystem. We just need to get it back into balance. It is very strong and does

not need much food to multiply. What is your son eating right now? What

probiotic foods and supplements is he taking? Maybe we can help you tweak

things. Constiipation is not from meat per se but from imbalanced internal

microbes. Even cultures who eat meat primarily do not have constipation when

their systems are working properly. Mag citrate is good, but eating a ton more

fat and lots of ferments is best.

Kathleen

> >

> >

> > PLEASE Help me to understand this!

> >

> > How can my 11 yo son still have YEAST?

> >

> > We started the SCD 9 months ago and we are following it very strictly!

> >

> > We have done the following treatments:

> >

> > Flagyl -- 9 months ago; 20 days

> >

> > Fluconazole -- following the Flagyl 9 months ago; 21 days

> >

> > Ketoconazole -- 7 months ago; 21 days

> >

> > Ketoconazole -- 3 months ago; 21 days

> >

> > Flagyl -- following the Ketoconazole 3 months ago; 20 days

> >

> > 3-day in hospital Bowel Clean-out due to severely impacted bowels -- 3

> > weeks ago

> >

> > *** The bowel clean-out proves that our son has been severly constipated

> > for years, even though he was having large BMs every 3-4 days. The

> > stool before the last Flagyl treatment had been formed by soft but this

> > last treatment caused his stools to hardened which led to a tremendous

> > amount pain. An x-ray showed just how full his intestines were with

> > stool -- A LOT!

> >

> > ***With him having so much yeasty stool that hardened, could this be why

> > all the previous treatments to rid him of the yeast failed?***

> >

> > Within 5 DAYS of the bowel clean-out he broke out into a YEAST RASH!

> >

> > We've since started another Ketoconazole treatment 2 weeks ago (with

> > Charcoal for the die-off which has been tough)

> >

> > The rash is clearing -- but VERY SLOWLY -- and we only have one more

> > week of the ketoconazole.

> >

> > WHY HASN'T THE YEAST LEFT HIS BODY??

> >

> > I, for certain, thought that after doing the bowel clean-out which got

> > rid of all the yeasty stool, we would have combatted the YEAST problem.

> >

> > Is this possible YEAST DIE-OFF from the intestinal walls? If so, what

> > happens if this 21 day ketoconazole treatment doesn't get it all? What

> > do we do then?

> >

> > HELP

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I used to feel this way too before I started. Eventually you realize it's almost

impossible to do it wrong. The best one to start with is beet kvass. It's soooo

easy.

One bunch of beets tops removed

Scrub gently - cut into 1 inch pieces (not too small)

drop into a 1/2 gallon jar

Add 1 TBS of sea salt

Add 4 TBS of whey, or 4 TBS of ACV, or another 1 TBS of sea salt

Fill with water

Cover and leave on the counter or in the cupboard for 3 days.

I invert mine every day to mix the salt in better and mix the bacteria around so

that it doesn't grow anything funky

Taste it on day 3 should be slightly salty NOT sweet. If it's still sweet

ferment another day.

Easy peazy and GREAT for the liver. My kids like an 8oz glass with 2 drops of

stevia. (we do GAPS with low sweets because of candida)

kathleen

> > >

> > >

> > > PLEASE Help me to understand this!

> > >

> > > How can my 11 yo son still have YEAST?

> > >

> > > We started the SCD 9 months ago and we are following it very strictly!

> > >

> > > We have done the following treatments:

> > >

> > > Flagyl -- 9 months ago; 20 days

> > >

> > > Fluconazole -- following the Flagyl 9 months ago; 21 days

> > >

> > > Ketoconazole -- 7 months ago; 21 days

> > >

> > > Ketoconazole -- 3 months ago; 21 days

> > >

> > > Flagyl -- following the Ketoconazole 3 months ago; 20 days

> > >

> > > 3-day in hospital Bowel Clean-out due to severely impacted bowels -- 3

> > > weeks ago

> > >

> > > *** The bowel clean-out proves that our son has been severly constipated

> > > for years, even though he was having large BMs every 3-4 days. The

> > > stool before the last Flagyl treatment had been formed by soft but this

> > > last treatment caused his stools to hardened which led to a tremendous

> > > amount pain. An x-ray showed just how full his intestines were with

> > > stool -- A LOT!

> > >

> > > ***With him having so much yeasty stool that hardened, could this be why

> > > all the previous treatments to rid him of the yeast failed?***

> > >

> > > Within 5 DAYS of the bowel clean-out he broke out into a YEAST RASH!

> > >

> > > We've since started another Ketoconazole treatment 2 weeks ago (with

> > > Charcoal for the die-off which has been tough)

> > >

> > > The rash is clearing -- but VERY SLOWLY -- and we only have one more

> > > week of the ketoconazole.

> > >

> > > WHY HASN'T THE YEAST LEFT HIS BODY??

> > >

> > > I, for certain, thought that after doing the bowel clean-out which got

> > > rid of all the yeasty stool, we would have combatted the YEAST problem.

> > >

> > > Is this possible YEAST DIE-OFF from the intestinal walls? If so, what

> > > happens if this 21 day ketoconazole treatment doesn't get it all? What

> > > do we do then?

> > >

> > > HELP

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

No blending, you just drink the liquid. When you get down to the beets you can

juice them. This adds probiotic to your juice.

enjoy,

Kathleen

> >

> > Kathleen, do you frement?  I would love to, but I'm terrified I'll poison

my

> > family.  I do the coconut kefir water, but that's as far as I've

gotten...

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

> >  

> > You will never get rid of all the yeast. It is a natural part of our

internal

> > ecosystem. We just need to get it back into balance. It is very strong and

does

> >

> > not need much food to multiply. What is your son eating right now? What

> > probiotic foods and supplements is he taking? Maybe we can help you tweak

> > things. Constiipation is not from meat per se but from imbalanced internal

> > microbes. Even cultures who eat meat primarily do not have constipation when

> > their systems are working properly. Mag citrate is good, but eating a ton

more

>

> > fat and lots of ferments is best.

> >

> >

> > Kathleen

> >

[Guest guest]

Beets are high oxalate if that's a problem. Kraut is pretty easy to make or you

can buy it from the HFS. Whole Foods has a great one called " Bubbies " in the

fridge section.

jenib

>

>

> PLEASE Help me to understand this!

>

> How can my 11 yo son still have YEAST?

>

> We started the SCD 9 months ago and we are following it very strictly!

>

> We have done the following treatments:

>

> Flagyl -- 9 months ago; 20 days

>

> Fluconazole -- following the Flagyl 9 months ago; 21 days

>

> Ketoconazole -- 7 months ago; 21 days

>

> Ketoconazole -- 3 months ago; 21 days

>

> Flagyl -- following the Ketoconazole 3 months ago; 20 days

>

> 3-day in hospital Bowel Clean-out due to severely impacted bowels -- 3

> weeks ago

>

> *** The bowel clean-out proves that our son has been severly constipated

> for years, even though he was having large BMs every 3-4 days. The

> stool before the last Flagyl treatment had been formed by soft but this

> last treatment caused his stools to hardened which led to a tremendous

> amount pain. An x-ray showed just how full his intestines were with

> stool -- A LOT!

>

> ***With him having so much yeasty stool that hardened, could this be why

> all the previous treatments to rid him of the yeast failed?***

>

> Within 5 DAYS of the bowel clean-out he broke out into a YEAST RASH!

>

> We've since started another Ketoconazole treatment 2 weeks ago (with

> Charcoal for the die-off which has been tough)

>

> The rash is clearing -- but VERY SLOWLY -- and we only have one more

> week of the ketoconazole.

>

> WHY HASN'T THE YEAST LEFT HIS BODY??

>

> I, for certain, thought that after doing the bowel clean-out which got

> rid of all the yeasty stool, we would have combatted the YEAST problem.

>

> Is this possible YEAST DIE-OFF from the intestinal walls? If so, what

> happens if this 21 day ketoconazole treatment doesn't get it all? What

> do we do then?

>

> HELP

>

[Guest guest]

Beets are high oxalate if that's a problem. Kraut is pretty easy to make or you

can buy it from the HFS. Whole Foods has a great one called " Bubbies " in the

fridge section.

jenib

>

>

> PLEASE Help me to understand this!

>

> How can my 11 yo son still have YEAST?

>

> We started the SCD 9 months ago and we are following it very strictly!

>

> We have done the following treatments:

>

> Flagyl -- 9 months ago; 20 days

>

> Fluconazole -- following the Flagyl 9 months ago; 21 days

>

> Ketoconazole -- 7 months ago; 21 days

>

> Ketoconazole -- 3 months ago; 21 days

>

> Flagyl -- following the Ketoconazole 3 months ago; 20 days

>

> 3-day in hospital Bowel Clean-out due to severely impacted bowels -- 3

> weeks ago

>

> *** The bowel clean-out proves that our son has been severly constipated

> for years, even though he was having large BMs every 3-4 days. The

> stool before the last Flagyl treatment had been formed by soft but this

> last treatment caused his stools to hardened which led to a tremendous

> amount pain. An x-ray showed just how full his intestines were with

> stool -- A LOT!

>

> ***With him having so much yeasty stool that hardened, could this be why

> all the previous treatments to rid him of the yeast failed?***

>

> Within 5 DAYS of the bowel clean-out he broke out into a YEAST RASH!

>

> We've since started another Ketoconazole treatment 2 weeks ago (with

> Charcoal for the die-off which has been tough)

>

> The rash is clearing -- but VERY SLOWLY -- and we only have one more

> week of the ketoconazole.

>

> WHY HASN'T THE YEAST LEFT HIS BODY??

>

> I, for certain, thought that after doing the bowel clean-out which got

> rid of all the yeasty stool, we would have combatted the YEAST problem.

>

> Is this possible YEAST DIE-OFF from the intestinal walls? If so, what

> happens if this 21 day ketoconazole treatment doesn't get it all? What

> do we do then?

>

> HELP

>

[Guest guest]

Beets are high oxalate if that's a problem. Kraut is pretty easy to make or you

can buy it from the HFS. Whole Foods has a great one called " Bubbies " in the

fridge section.

jenib

>

>

> PLEASE Help me to understand this!

>

> How can my 11 yo son still have YEAST?

>

> We started the SCD 9 months ago and we are following it very strictly!

>

> We have done the following treatments:

>

> Flagyl -- 9 months ago; 20 days

>

> Fluconazole -- following the Flagyl 9 months ago; 21 days

>

> Ketoconazole -- 7 months ago; 21 days

>

> Ketoconazole -- 3 months ago; 21 days

>

> Flagyl -- following the Ketoconazole 3 months ago; 20 days

>

> 3-day in hospital Bowel Clean-out due to severely impacted bowels -- 3

> weeks ago

>

> *** The bowel clean-out proves that our son has been severly constipated

> for years, even though he was having large BMs every 3-4 days. The

> stool before the last Flagyl treatment had been formed by soft but this

> last treatment caused his stools to hardened which led to a tremendous

> amount pain. An x-ray showed just how full his intestines were with

> stool -- A LOT!

>

> ***With him having so much yeasty stool that hardened, could this be why

> all the previous treatments to rid him of the yeast failed?***

>

> Within 5 DAYS of the bowel clean-out he broke out into a YEAST RASH!

>

> We've since started another Ketoconazole treatment 2 weeks ago (with

> Charcoal for the die-off which has been tough)

>

> The rash is clearing -- but VERY SLOWLY -- and we only have one more

> week of the ketoconazole.

>

> WHY HASN'T THE YEAST LEFT HIS BODY??

>

> I, for certain, thought that after doing the bowel clean-out which got

> rid of all the yeasty stool, we would have combatted the YEAST problem.

>

> Is this possible YEAST DIE-OFF from the intestinal walls? If so, what

> happens if this 21 day ketoconazole treatment doesn't get it all? What

> do we do then?

>

> HELP

>