Re: Can't sleep--too much anxiety

[Guest guest]

Hey, just an idea, but since our country's mental health care system is so

effed up, can you get in to see your regular doctor? He/she might be able to

help you with anxiety meds, depression meds, referral to a psychiatrist etc

etc to get you by. Pesonally, I'd def try that because finding a therapist

you click with can take a long time. My primary care doc has saved my life

probably 4 or so different times by seeing I was depressed, anxious and

suicidal even when I didn't realize how bad it was and triaging me. The meds

can take a few weeks to kick in, but if anxiety is the problem, your doc

shoudl have something to get you through. She (well mine is a she) can also

get you sleeping again with a perscription. I'm not saying drugs should be

the long term fix or the only thing you try, but it might be easier to

access than therapy and help you cope for a few weeks while the EAP farts

around.

XO, Girlscout

>

>

> Well, once again I'm up due to middle of the night anxiety and can't get

> back to sleep. I finally decided to get out of bed and go surf the net for

> bike on Craigslist that I can fix up. It's soothes me and takes my mind off

> of whatever it is fixing on and not letting go.

>

> This anxiety is really starting to affect everything in my life now. The

> massive lack of sleep is limiting the plans I can make with friends because

> I'm just too tired. I talked to my boss today about the anxiety, and she is

> aware of my situation and very understanding--she knows that the ordeal with

> nada is adding undue stress. She also knows that I normally handle stress

> quite well but she can see that this is not having a good affect on me. But

> she also knows I'm seeking help, so even though it's putting pressure on

> work, I'm fortunate enough to have a very understanding supervisor.

>

> I'm a little irritated with the EAP because they were supposed to have

> gotten back to me with options for me to begin therapy by today but they

> didn't. I actually had to call them, also because I wanted to talk to my

> " case worker " about the panic attack from yesterday. He did call me back

> before he left the office and apologized that they hadn't been able to get

> the information to me yet but that they would definitely have it by Monday.

> It's just that I feel like my psychological coping mechanisms are getting

> exponentially worse everyday and I really need to deal with this. ly, I

> do not know what shape I will be in by Monday.

>

> In the past, I have on a rare occasion had some anxiety about things that

> are quite normal to have anxiety about--finances, work stress, etc. But I've

> always been able to take some deep breathes, tell myself it's okay, decide

> that I would do X tomorrow in regards to the matter, and that would calm me

> down. I would decide upon an action to begin resolving the matter, and I

> would feel immensely better. Not so right now.

>

> Is there anyone else surfing the boards and awake out there?

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I have generalized anxiety disorder so I can relate. My primary care doctor

gave me some xanax. It works. I take the lowest dose there is because I'm

paranoid about becoming addicted but even that small does is enough to help cut

of the adrenaline and allow me to get to sleep when I'm really anxious.

Another thing that really helps is meditation. I meditate before I go to sleep

most nights. it really makes a difference in the anxiety that keeps me awake.

I hope you are sleeping now.

Jaie

[Guest guest]

Jaie and Girlscout,

I am extremely wary of drugs. I have PMDD, and I cannot go off birth control or

for two weeks of every month, I basically have the rage symptoms of someone with

BPD. I used to take Prozac as well for it, but I just could not continue the

Prozac, it made me feel way too " high " but not like stoned high, I mean like

outside myself and level. I felt so bland and flat, and also it provoked some

weird thoughts and the last straw was when I found myself contemplating suicide

(for really no reason) and I was like, no way, the birth control hormone

regulation is enough. I stopped the Prozac (which I only took for 2 weeks at a

time) and only took the birth control and it is just enough.

I hate sleeping medications because they make me groggy all day. And I can't

have that.

I'm going to wait until Monday, and then if I don't get any information, I will

go to my primary care physician myself.

Thank you both for your support. I couldn't get through it without this forum.

[Guest guest]

Huh, sounds like you are very sensitive to medication. I guess that's not a

good option.

Me too on the hormones, but I have an IUD which helps immensley. I crashed

really bad last time I took birth control pills. Mega migraine and fibro

outbreak - couldn't work for about 3 weeks. Ugh.

>

>

> Jaie and Girlscout,

>

> I am extremely wary of drugs. I have PMDD, and I cannot go off birth

> control or for two weeks of every month, I basically have the rage symptoms

> of someone with BPD. I used to take Prozac as well for it, but I just could

> not continue the Prozac, it made me feel way too " high " but not like stoned

> high, I mean like outside myself and level. I felt so bland and flat, and

> also it provoked some weird thoughts and the last straw was when I found

> myself contemplating suicide (for really no reason) and I was like, no way,

> the birth control hormone regulation is enough. I stopped the Prozac (which

> I only took for 2 weeks at a time) and only took the birth control and it is

> just enough.

>

> I hate sleeping medications because they make me groggy all day. And I

> can't have that.

>

> I'm going to wait until Monday, and then if I don't get any information, I

> will go to my primary care physician myself.

>

> Thank you both for your support. I couldn't get through it without this

> forum.

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Ah, I see. I was like that too. But the very low dose xanax helps me at bed

time. So does valerian root tea. That works well too and its natural. You'd

still need to check with an MD to make sure there are no interactions but I

don't feel groggy at all with low dose xanax or with valerian root (I think it's

in a brand of tea called " sleepy time tea. " Just some thoughts. I hope you

find something that helps. If you can, try meditation. There are a lot of good

books on meditation out there and that is just emptying the thoughts.

Oh, while I'm thinking about it, there is the 5-4-3-2-1 exercise that helps cut

the anxiety thoughts by overwhelming them with senses. The way it works you

name 5 things that you see, 5 things that you hear, 5 things that you feel, then

4, then 3 etc. So it would go something like (I see the television, I see the

rug on the floor, I see the radio, I see the flowers, I see the blanket, then I

hear the cars outside, I hear my breathing, I hear the neighbor's dog, I hear

the TV, I hear the computer hum, I feel my fingers on the key board, I feel my

back up against the couch, I feel the clothing on my arms,e tc.). This occupies

the mind with non-adrenaline producing thoughts so you can stop adding to the

anxiety. Once anxious thoughts get going, we produce adrenaline, then we get

upset about being anxious which dumps more of the chemical into our system and

it can take hours to wind it down).

I hope you get some relief soon. Be really good and gentle with yourself.

>

> Jaie and Girlscout,

>

> I am extremely wary of drugs. I have PMDD, and I cannot go off birth control

or for two weeks of every month, I basically have the rage symptoms of someone

with BPD. I used to take Prozac as well for it, but I just could not continue

the Prozac, it made me feel way too " high " but not like stoned high, I mean like

outside myself and level. I felt so bland and flat, and also it provoked some

weird thoughts and the last straw was when I found myself contemplating suicide

(for really no reason) and I was like, no way, the birth control hormone

regulation is enough. I stopped the Prozac (which I only took for 2 weeks at a

time) and only took the birth control and it is just enough.

>

> I hate sleeping medications because they make me groggy all day. And I can't

have that.

>

> I'm going to wait until Monday, and then if I don't get any information, I

will go to my primary care physician myself.

>

> Thank you both for your support. I couldn't get through it without this forum.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Ah, I see. I was like that too. But the very low dose xanax helps me at bed

time. So does valerian root tea. That works well too and its natural. You'd

still need to check with an MD to make sure there are no interactions but I

don't feel groggy at all with low dose xanax or with valerian root (I think it's

in a brand of tea called " sleepy time tea. " Just some thoughts. I hope you

find something that helps. If you can, try meditation. There are a lot of good

books on meditation out there and that is just emptying the thoughts.

Oh, while I'm thinking about it, there is the 5-4-3-2-1 exercise that helps cut

the anxiety thoughts by overwhelming them with senses. The way it works you

name 5 things that you see, 5 things that you hear, 5 things that you feel, then

4, then 3 etc. So it would go something like (I see the television, I see the

rug on the floor, I see the radio, I see the flowers, I see the blanket, then I

hear the cars outside, I hear my breathing, I hear the neighbor's dog, I hear

the TV, I hear the computer hum, I feel my fingers on the key board, I feel my

back up against the couch, I feel the clothing on my arms,e tc.). This occupies

the mind with non-adrenaline producing thoughts so you can stop adding to the

anxiety. Once anxious thoughts get going, we produce adrenaline, then we get

upset about being anxious which dumps more of the chemical into our system and

it can take hours to wind it down).

I hope you get some relief soon. Be really good and gentle with yourself.

>

> Jaie and Girlscout,

>

> I am extremely wary of drugs. I have PMDD, and I cannot go off birth control

or for two weeks of every month, I basically have the rage symptoms of someone

with BPD. I used to take Prozac as well for it, but I just could not continue

the Prozac, it made me feel way too " high " but not like stoned high, I mean like

outside myself and level. I felt so bland and flat, and also it provoked some

weird thoughts and the last straw was when I found myself contemplating suicide

(for really no reason) and I was like, no way, the birth control hormone

regulation is enough. I stopped the Prozac (which I only took for 2 weeks at a

time) and only took the birth control and it is just enough.

>

> I hate sleeping medications because they make me groggy all day. And I can't

have that.

>

> I'm going to wait until Monday, and then if I don't get any information, I

will go to my primary care physician myself.

>

> Thank you both for your support. I couldn't get through it without this forum.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Ah, I see. I was like that too. But the very low dose xanax helps me at bed

time. So does valerian root tea. That works well too and its natural. You'd

still need to check with an MD to make sure there are no interactions but I

don't feel groggy at all with low dose xanax or with valerian root (I think it's

in a brand of tea called " sleepy time tea. " Just some thoughts. I hope you

find something that helps. If you can, try meditation. There are a lot of good

books on meditation out there and that is just emptying the thoughts.

Oh, while I'm thinking about it, there is the 5-4-3-2-1 exercise that helps cut

the anxiety thoughts by overwhelming them with senses. The way it works you

name 5 things that you see, 5 things that you hear, 5 things that you feel, then

4, then 3 etc. So it would go something like (I see the television, I see the

rug on the floor, I see the radio, I see the flowers, I see the blanket, then I

hear the cars outside, I hear my breathing, I hear the neighbor's dog, I hear

the TV, I hear the computer hum, I feel my fingers on the key board, I feel my

back up against the couch, I feel the clothing on my arms,e tc.). This occupies

the mind with non-adrenaline producing thoughts so you can stop adding to the

anxiety. Once anxious thoughts get going, we produce adrenaline, then we get

upset about being anxious which dumps more of the chemical into our system and

it can take hours to wind it down).

I hope you get some relief soon. Be really good and gentle with yourself.

>

> Jaie and Girlscout,

>

> I am extremely wary of drugs. I have PMDD, and I cannot go off birth control

or for two weeks of every month, I basically have the rage symptoms of someone

with BPD. I used to take Prozac as well for it, but I just could not continue

the Prozac, it made me feel way too " high " but not like stoned high, I mean like

outside myself and level. I felt so bland and flat, and also it provoked some

weird thoughts and the last straw was when I found myself contemplating suicide

(for really no reason) and I was like, no way, the birth control hormone

regulation is enough. I stopped the Prozac (which I only took for 2 weeks at a

time) and only took the birth control and it is just enough.

>

> I hate sleeping medications because they make me groggy all day. And I can't

have that.

>

> I'm going to wait until Monday, and then if I don't get any information, I

will go to my primary care physician myself.

>

> Thank you both for your support. I couldn't get through it without this forum.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks so much for posting this. You mentioned it on another thread and I was

going to ask what it is and forgot. Sounds extremely helpful.

Regarding meds, I have success with low dose Ativan when I have to deal with

Nada and her affairs and for other times when I get too stressed. A lot safer

than vodka! And it does nothing but take the edge off.

Em

Sent from my blueberry.

> Oh, while I'm thinking about it, there is the 5-4-3-2-1 exercise that helps

cut the anxiety thoughts by overwhelming them with senses. The way it works you

name 5 things that you see, 5 things that you hear, 5 things that you feel, then

4, then 3 etc. So it would go something like (I see the television, I see the

rug on the floor, I see the radio, I see the flowers, I see the blanket, then I

hear the cars outside, I hear my breathing, I hear the neighbor's dog, I hear

the TV, I hear the computer hum, I feel my fingers on the key board, I feel my

back up against the couch, I feel the clothing on my arms,e tc.). This occupies

the mind with non-adrenaline producing thoughts so you can stop adding to the

anxiety. Once anxious thoughts get going, we produce adrenaline, then we get

upset about being anxious which dumps more of the chemical into our system and

it can take hours to wind it down).

[Guest guest]

I second seeing your reg doc if you need to. Mine has helped me a lot since I

haven't been able to afford therapy due to my insurance not covering mental

health, or when I have no insurance at all. Also, anti-anxiety meds can help

IMMENSELY and in my experience I only needed to use them for a little while

until I was back in balance and then didn't need them anymore.

Casey

>

> >

> >

> > Well, once again I'm up due to middle of the night anxiety and can't get

> > back to sleep. I finally decided to get out of bed and go surf the net for

> > bike on Craigslist that I can fix up. It's soothes me and takes my mind off

> > of whatever it is fixing on and not letting go.

> >

> > This anxiety is really starting to affect everything in my life now. The

> > massive lack of sleep is limiting the plans I can make with friends because

> > I'm just too tired. I talked to my boss today about the anxiety, and she is

> > aware of my situation and very understanding--she knows that the ordeal with

> > nada is adding undue stress. She also knows that I normally handle stress

> > quite well but she can see that this is not having a good affect on me. But

> > she also knows I'm seeking help, so even though it's putting pressure on

> > work, I'm fortunate enough to have a very understanding supervisor.

> >

> > I'm a little irritated with the EAP because they were supposed to have

> > gotten back to me with options for me to begin therapy by today but they

> > didn't. I actually had to call them, also because I wanted to talk to my

> > " case worker " about the panic attack from yesterday. He did call me back

> > before he left the office and apologized that they hadn't been able to get

> > the information to me yet but that they would definitely have it by Monday.

> > It's just that I feel like my psychological coping mechanisms are getting

> > exponentially worse everyday and I really need to deal with this. ly, I

> > do not know what shape I will be in by Monday.

> >

> > In the past, I have on a rare occasion had some anxiety about things that

> > are quite normal to have anxiety about--finances, work stress, etc. But I've

> > always been able to take some deep breathes, tell myself it's okay, decide

> > that I would do X tomorrow in regards to the matter, and that would calm me

> > down. I would decide upon an action to begin resolving the matter, and I

> > would feel immensely better. Not so right now.

> >

> > Is there anyone else surfing the boards and awake out there?

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I've taken ativan too. I do have times where too much stress will kick me right

into panic attack mode. Ativan really helps stop that. I have taken zoloft in

the past but it didn't really help with the anxiety. Honestly the things that

worked the best were identifying the anxious thoughts, rethinking those thoughts

in the positive, staying in the moment and not borrowing trouble about what

might happen in the next moment and exercise and meditation. I manage stress by

not taking on too much, learning to say no and keeping my thoughts as pure as I

can about me. And by pure, I mean, I will flat out stop whatever I'm doing if I

raise any insulting thoughts about me inside of my own head. Those thoughts

come from the liar inside that took over after nada was removed from my life.

When I hear the liar, I tell it to shut the heck up and I remind myself of my

good and loving qualities. I also tell myself that I cannot predict the future

with certainty so making assumptions about what hurtful people may or may not do

wasn't going to help me. I began to identify every assumption I made. I make a

lot of assumptions and line emotion up with those assumptions. That is a recipe

for disaster. the assumptions come from the liar in my head. So, I remind the

liar " that is an assumption...I do not have facts so cannot assume anything and

I cannot fear or be anxious about something when I don't have the facts. "

There are so many strategies we can become conscious of and employ in the span

of a heart beat. We just have to get use to using the tactics and in time, they

come more naturally.

>

> > Oh, while I'm thinking about it, there is the 5-4-3-2-1 exercise that helps

cut the anxiety thoughts by overwhelming them with senses. The way it works you

name 5 things that you see, 5 things that you hear, 5 things that you feel, then

4, then 3 etc. So it would go something like (I see the television, I see the

rug on the floor, I see the radio, I see the flowers, I see the blanket, then I

hear the cars outside, I hear my breathing, I hear the neighbor's dog, I hear

the TV, I hear the computer hum, I feel my fingers on the key board, I feel my

back up against the couch, I feel the clothing on my arms,e tc.). This occupies

the mind with non-adrenaline producing thoughts so you can stop adding to the

anxiety. Once anxious thoughts get going, we produce adrenaline, then we get

upset about being anxious which dumps more of the chemical into our system and

it can take hours to wind it down).

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I've taken ativan too. I do have times where too much stress will kick me right

into panic attack mode. Ativan really helps stop that. I have taken zoloft in

the past but it didn't really help with the anxiety. Honestly the things that

worked the best were identifying the anxious thoughts, rethinking those thoughts

in the positive, staying in the moment and not borrowing trouble about what

might happen in the next moment and exercise and meditation. I manage stress by

not taking on too much, learning to say no and keeping my thoughts as pure as I

can about me. And by pure, I mean, I will flat out stop whatever I'm doing if I

raise any insulting thoughts about me inside of my own head. Those thoughts

come from the liar inside that took over after nada was removed from my life.

When I hear the liar, I tell it to shut the heck up and I remind myself of my

good and loving qualities. I also tell myself that I cannot predict the future

with certainty so making assumptions about what hurtful people may or may not do

wasn't going to help me. I began to identify every assumption I made. I make a

lot of assumptions and line emotion up with those assumptions. That is a recipe

for disaster. the assumptions come from the liar in my head. So, I remind the

liar " that is an assumption...I do not have facts so cannot assume anything and

I cannot fear or be anxious about something when I don't have the facts. "

There are so many strategies we can become conscious of and employ in the span

of a heart beat. We just have to get use to using the tactics and in time, they

come more naturally.

>

> > Oh, while I'm thinking about it, there is the 5-4-3-2-1 exercise that helps

cut the anxiety thoughts by overwhelming them with senses. The way it works you

name 5 things that you see, 5 things that you hear, 5 things that you feel, then

4, then 3 etc. So it would go something like (I see the television, I see the

rug on the floor, I see the radio, I see the flowers, I see the blanket, then I

hear the cars outside, I hear my breathing, I hear the neighbor's dog, I hear

the TV, I hear the computer hum, I feel my fingers on the key board, I feel my

back up against the couch, I feel the clothing on my arms,e tc.). This occupies

the mind with non-adrenaline producing thoughts so you can stop adding to the

anxiety. Once anxious thoughts get going, we produce adrenaline, then we get

upset about being anxious which dumps more of the chemical into our system and

it can take hours to wind it down).

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I've taken ativan too. I do have times where too much stress will kick me right

into panic attack mode. Ativan really helps stop that. I have taken zoloft in

the past but it didn't really help with the anxiety. Honestly the things that

worked the best were identifying the anxious thoughts, rethinking those thoughts

in the positive, staying in the moment and not borrowing trouble about what

might happen in the next moment and exercise and meditation. I manage stress by

not taking on too much, learning to say no and keeping my thoughts as pure as I

can about me. And by pure, I mean, I will flat out stop whatever I'm doing if I

raise any insulting thoughts about me inside of my own head. Those thoughts

come from the liar inside that took over after nada was removed from my life.

When I hear the liar, I tell it to shut the heck up and I remind myself of my

good and loving qualities. I also tell myself that I cannot predict the future

with certainty so making assumptions about what hurtful people may or may not do

wasn't going to help me. I began to identify every assumption I made. I make a

lot of assumptions and line emotion up with those assumptions. That is a recipe

for disaster. the assumptions come from the liar in my head. So, I remind the

liar " that is an assumption...I do not have facts so cannot assume anything and

I cannot fear or be anxious about something when I don't have the facts. "

There are so many strategies we can become conscious of and employ in the span

of a heart beat. We just have to get use to using the tactics and in time, they

come more naturally.

>

> > Oh, while I'm thinking about it, there is the 5-4-3-2-1 exercise that helps

cut the anxiety thoughts by overwhelming them with senses. The way it works you

name 5 things that you see, 5 things that you hear, 5 things that you feel, then

4, then 3 etc. So it would go something like (I see the television, I see the

rug on the floor, I see the radio, I see the flowers, I see the blanket, then I

hear the cars outside, I hear my breathing, I hear the neighbor's dog, I hear

the TV, I hear the computer hum, I feel my fingers on the key board, I feel my

back up against the couch, I feel the clothing on my arms,e tc.). This occupies

the mind with non-adrenaline producing thoughts so you can stop adding to the

anxiety. Once anxious thoughts get going, we produce adrenaline, then we get

upset about being anxious which dumps more of the chemical into our system and

it can take hours to wind it down).

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Oh good. You know, I'm a bit of a recoverying flight phobic. Thsi 5-4-3-2-1

exercise gets me on the airplane and helps me deal with turbulence without going

into full panic attack. So, I know it works. I hope it works for you.

Another trick for those who get anxious at other times - like while driving...I

will sometimes feel like a panic attack is coming on while driving...I'll dot he

5-4-3-2-1 and it helps. If I'm still edgy, I'll turn up the radio and sing and

purposefully stick my hand in my purse and grab something without pulling it

out...I just feel it in my hands and see if I can guess what it is. You can see

how this works...until you can identify the anxiety producing thoughts, you need

to learn to cut them off with distracting exercises. They really work. I've

not had a panic attack in 3 years using these exercises. I was a tough case

too.

Hope you were able to get some sleep. If you can, try to get some exercise

outside today if its not too cold where you are. Sunlight and exercise, like

walking, really helps too as long as you can do it safely.

Jaie

>

> Hey Jaie,

>

> Well, I don't doubt that I will have the opportunity to employ that 5-4-3-2-1

technique tonight. I think it will be helpful because usually once I can force

my mind off of whatever it's locked on, I can fall back asleep.

>

> Thanks!

>

>

[Guest guest]

Oh good. You know, I'm a bit of a recoverying flight phobic. Thsi 5-4-3-2-1

exercise gets me on the airplane and helps me deal with turbulence without going

into full panic attack. So, I know it works. I hope it works for you.

Another trick for those who get anxious at other times - like while driving...I

will sometimes feel like a panic attack is coming on while driving...I'll dot he

5-4-3-2-1 and it helps. If I'm still edgy, I'll turn up the radio and sing and

purposefully stick my hand in my purse and grab something without pulling it

out...I just feel it in my hands and see if I can guess what it is. You can see

how this works...until you can identify the anxiety producing thoughts, you need

to learn to cut them off with distracting exercises. They really work. I've

not had a panic attack in 3 years using these exercises. I was a tough case

too.

Hope you were able to get some sleep. If you can, try to get some exercise

outside today if its not too cold where you are. Sunlight and exercise, like

walking, really helps too as long as you can do it safely.

Jaie

>

> Hey Jaie,

>

> Well, I don't doubt that I will have the opportunity to employ that 5-4-3-2-1

technique tonight. I think it will be helpful because usually once I can force

my mind off of whatever it's locked on, I can fall back asleep.

>

> Thanks!

>

>

[Guest guest]

Oh good. You know, I'm a bit of a recoverying flight phobic. Thsi 5-4-3-2-1

exercise gets me on the airplane and helps me deal with turbulence without going

into full panic attack. So, I know it works. I hope it works for you.

Another trick for those who get anxious at other times - like while driving...I

will sometimes feel like a panic attack is coming on while driving...I'll dot he

5-4-3-2-1 and it helps. If I'm still edgy, I'll turn up the radio and sing and

purposefully stick my hand in my purse and grab something without pulling it

out...I just feel it in my hands and see if I can guess what it is. You can see

how this works...until you can identify the anxiety producing thoughts, you need

to learn to cut them off with distracting exercises. They really work. I've

not had a panic attack in 3 years using these exercises. I was a tough case

too.

Hope you were able to get some sleep. If you can, try to get some exercise

outside today if its not too cold where you are. Sunlight and exercise, like

walking, really helps too as long as you can do it safely.

Jaie

>

> Hey Jaie,

>

> Well, I don't doubt that I will have the opportunity to employ that 5-4-3-2-1

technique tonight. I think it will be helpful because usually once I can force

my mind off of whatever it's locked on, I can fall back asleep.

>

> Thanks!

>

>

[Guest guest]

Jaie, that's what so awful is that I'm training for a marathon and run and

workout around 2 hours each day. I should be exhausted and totally pass out and

sleep through the night, but it doesn't happen. I did take a sleep aid really

early in the evening yesterday and I did sleep all through the night. I did have

a slight anxiety dream but it was very mellow compared to what I've had of late.

Today I just got done running 17 miles. So I hope I will sleep well tonight and

not need a sleep aid. I'm going to get some of that sleepy time tea and see if

that helps.

> >

> > Hey Jaie,

> >

> > Well, I don't doubt that I will have the opportunity to employ that

5-4-3-2-1 technique tonight. I think it will be helpful because usually once I

can force my mind off of whatever it's locked on, I can fall back asleep.

> >

> > Thanks!

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Jaie, that's what so awful is that I'm training for a marathon and run and

workout around 2 hours each day. I should be exhausted and totally pass out and

sleep through the night, but it doesn't happen. I did take a sleep aid really

early in the evening yesterday and I did sleep all through the night. I did have

a slight anxiety dream but it was very mellow compared to what I've had of late.

Today I just got done running 17 miles. So I hope I will sleep well tonight and

not need a sleep aid. I'm going to get some of that sleepy time tea and see if

that helps.

> >

> > Hey Jaie,

> >

> > Well, I don't doubt that I will have the opportunity to employ that

5-4-3-2-1 technique tonight. I think it will be helpful because usually once I

can force my mind off of whatever it's locked on, I can fall back asleep.

> >

> > Thanks!

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Jaie, that's what so awful is that I'm training for a marathon and run and

workout around 2 hours each day. I should be exhausted and totally pass out and

sleep through the night, but it doesn't happen. I did take a sleep aid really

early in the evening yesterday and I did sleep all through the night. I did have

a slight anxiety dream but it was very mellow compared to what I've had of late.

Today I just got done running 17 miles. So I hope I will sleep well tonight and

not need a sleep aid. I'm going to get some of that sleepy time tea and see if

that helps.

> >

> > Hey Jaie,

> >

> > Well, I don't doubt that I will have the opportunity to employ that

5-4-3-2-1 technique tonight. I think it will be helpful because usually once I

can force my mind off of whatever it's locked on, I can fall back asleep.

> >

> > Thanks!

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I admire you for having such good exercise habbits! I use to be so much

more active, but I think the pains of endo & fibromyalgia have taken their

toll on me. I can't wait to feel better since my surgery so that I can

start a new exercise routine. I want to do something low impact. We got a

Wii & Wii Fit for the kids for Christmas... I know they have aerobics & even

yoga for it so I might give those a try! I would love to take a yoga class

but they are just so darned expensive. But anyway, good luck with your

training & also with the marathon when that time comes.

As kind of an aside, Jaie - I did the " I love you " thing in the mirror today

as promised. It was damn damn damn hard. I started crying my eyes out. I

did it before I got in the shower & have hardly been able to look at myself

in the mirror since. I promise I will keep trying it though.

Mia

[Guest guest]

I admire you for having such good exercise habbits! I use to be so much

more active, but I think the pains of endo & fibromyalgia have taken their

toll on me. I can't wait to feel better since my surgery so that I can

start a new exercise routine. I want to do something low impact. We got a

Wii & Wii Fit for the kids for Christmas... I know they have aerobics & even

yoga for it so I might give those a try! I would love to take a yoga class

but they are just so darned expensive. But anyway, good luck with your

training & also with the marathon when that time comes.

As kind of an aside, Jaie - I did the " I love you " thing in the mirror today

as promised. It was damn damn damn hard. I started crying my eyes out. I

did it before I got in the shower & have hardly been able to look at myself

in the mirror since. I promise I will keep trying it though.

Mia

[Guest guest]

I admire you for having such good exercise habbits! I use to be so much

more active, but I think the pains of endo & fibromyalgia have taken their

toll on me. I can't wait to feel better since my surgery so that I can

start a new exercise routine. I want to do something low impact. We got a

Wii & Wii Fit for the kids for Christmas... I know they have aerobics & even

yoga for it so I might give those a try! I would love to take a yoga class

but they are just so darned expensive. But anyway, good luck with your

training & also with the marathon when that time comes.

As kind of an aside, Jaie - I did the " I love you " thing in the mirror today

as promised. It was damn damn damn hard. I started crying my eyes out. I

did it before I got in the shower & have hardly been able to look at myself

in the mirror since. I promise I will keep trying it though.

Mia