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Hopefully Val will be back here soon. In the meantime, thought I'd share some

things:

I get edema if I take more t3 than my adrenals can handle. I think it's because

there's not enough cortisol to get the t3 into the cells.

I don't think you can hurt yourself at all by just taking some potassium supps

and seeing if it helps the edema.

However, do you think you're still on too much t3? Unless you're in the luteal

phase of your cycle, those basals are too high. Mine are that high in my luteal

phase, though.

The diarhea can be too much t3 OR too little cortisol or both! Are you

vomiting??? If so, you might really be low cortisol, especially with the diarhea

going on.

Do you feel ill? If you are very sick, you might want to go the ER and have them

check your cortisol...

>

> Hi Val:

>

> I am doing better having dropped from 175mcg to 125mcg T3 and Im at about 9.5

weeks +/-.

>

> My pulse is in the 84-88 range down from the 110 range once I dropped the T3

lower. Plus the thumb joint pain and foot pain subsided too.

>

> I did just send in a 4x saliva test and do not have any current adrenal info

to report but I think I have low adrenal symptoms?

>

> 1. Ankle Edema- oddly- seems top be in left ankle only.

>

> 2. High Basal temps??? Though I question the integrity of a the 2 non mercury

thermometers that I have (one is digital and one is a " geratherm " mercury free)

My basals have been 98.6, 98.7 etc...

>

> 3. Constant / chronic diarhea - which I had while using cortef 1.5 years ago

as well. I had comprehensive stool analysis and I eat gluten free and whole

foods. You mentioned POTASSIUM helped but I cant verify that mine is low. The

ONLY thing that could be a factor- I chew way too much sugarless gum. Maybe

that's the cause? Or can I try some potassium supplement?

>

> I have dumped all dairy products again- so even off dairy- still

> cannot hold onto food....which is bad... makes me hungry and probably leaves

me really depleted. Could be I dont absorb anything! Including upplements....

>

> 4.No menstrual cycle this month - yet many symptoms- breast enlargement, mild

cramping... though this has been an ongoing battle- NO CYCLE - low thyroid

hormones.I took a pregnancy test so not pregnant :( And I want to be....

>

>

> I am taking Rhodiola, Ashwanghanda and Drenamin and Drenamin PMG from Standard

Process - that my new ND recommended. They have some glandular properties and

natural herbs and such???? Not sure if anyone has used them for adrenal support.

>

> Any thoughts? Thanks!

>

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Hopefully Val will be back here soon. In the meantime, thought I'd share some

things:

I get edema if I take more t3 than my adrenals can handle. I think it's because

there's not enough cortisol to get the t3 into the cells.

I don't think you can hurt yourself at all by just taking some potassium supps

and seeing if it helps the edema.

However, do you think you're still on too much t3? Unless you're in the luteal

phase of your cycle, those basals are too high. Mine are that high in my luteal

phase, though.

The diarhea can be too much t3 OR too little cortisol or both! Are you

vomiting??? If so, you might really be low cortisol, especially with the diarhea

going on.

Do you feel ill? If you are very sick, you might want to go the ER and have them

check your cortisol...

>

> Hi Val:

>

> I am doing better having dropped from 175mcg to 125mcg T3 and Im at about 9.5

weeks +/-.

>

> My pulse is in the 84-88 range down from the 110 range once I dropped the T3

lower. Plus the thumb joint pain and foot pain subsided too.

>

> I did just send in a 4x saliva test and do not have any current adrenal info

to report but I think I have low adrenal symptoms?

>

> 1. Ankle Edema- oddly- seems top be in left ankle only.

>

> 2. High Basal temps??? Though I question the integrity of a the 2 non mercury

thermometers that I have (one is digital and one is a " geratherm " mercury free)

My basals have been 98.6, 98.7 etc...

>

> 3. Constant / chronic diarhea - which I had while using cortef 1.5 years ago

as well. I had comprehensive stool analysis and I eat gluten free and whole

foods. You mentioned POTASSIUM helped but I cant verify that mine is low. The

ONLY thing that could be a factor- I chew way too much sugarless gum. Maybe

that's the cause? Or can I try some potassium supplement?

>

> I have dumped all dairy products again- so even off dairy- still

> cannot hold onto food....which is bad... makes me hungry and probably leaves

me really depleted. Could be I dont absorb anything! Including upplements....

>

> 4.No menstrual cycle this month - yet many symptoms- breast enlargement, mild

cramping... though this has been an ongoing battle- NO CYCLE - low thyroid

hormones.I took a pregnancy test so not pregnant :( And I want to be....

>

>

> I am taking Rhodiola, Ashwanghanda and Drenamin and Drenamin PMG from Standard

Process - that my new ND recommended. They have some glandular properties and

natural herbs and such???? Not sure if anyone has used them for adrenal support.

>

> Any thoughts? Thanks!

>

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Thanks for your advice - seems like Val agrees with too much T3. I guess the saying more is more does not apply here !I do not feel sick with diarrhea, no vomiting just annoying ;) and definitley not good for me. I thought Val had said potassium helped with diarrhea?As for high basals- technically yes in my luteal phase but.... My period never came.Anyway thank you so much for your response !Sent from my iPhone

Hopefully Val will be back here soon. In the meantime, thought I'd share some things:

I get edema if I take more t3 than my adrenals can handle. I think it's because there's not enough cortisol to get the t3 into the cells.

I don't think you can hurt yourself at all by just taking some potassium supps and seeing if it helps the edema.

However, do you think you're still on too much t3? Unless you're in the luteal phase of your cycle, those basals are too high. Mine are that high in my luteal phase, though.

The diarhea can be too much t3 OR too little cortisol or both! Are you vomiting??? If so, you might really be low cortisol, especially with the diarhea going on.

Do you feel ill? If you are very sick, you might want to go the ER and have them check your cortisol...

>

> Hi Val:

>

> I am doing better having dropped from 175mcg to 125mcg T3 and Im at about 9.5 weeks +/-.

>

> My pulse is in the 84-88 range down from the 110 range once I dropped the T3 lower. Plus the thumb joint pain and foot pain subsided too.

>

> I did just send in a 4x saliva test and do not have any current adrenal info to report but I think I have low adrenal symptoms?

>

> 1. Ankle Edema- oddly- seems top be in left ankle only.

>

> 2. High Basal temps??? Though I question the integrity of a the 2 non mercury thermometers that I have (one is digital and one is a "geratherm" mercury free) My basals have been 98.6, 98.7 etc...

>

> 3. Constant / chronic diarhea - which I had while using cortef 1.5 years ago as well. I had comprehensive stool analysis and I eat gluten free and whole foods. You mentioned POTASSIUM helped but I cant verify that mine is low. The ONLY thing that could be a factor- I chew way too much sugarless gum. Maybe that's the cause? Or can I try some potassium supplement?

>

> I have dumped all dairy products again- so even off dairy- still

> cannot hold onto food....which is bad... makes me hungry and probably leaves me really depleted. Could be I dont absorb anything! Including upplements....

>

> 4.No menstrual cycle this month - yet many symptoms- breast enlargement, mild cramping... though this has been an ongoing battle- NO CYCLE - low thyroid hormones.I took a pregnancy test so not pregnant :( And I want to be....

>

>

> I am taking Rhodiola, Ashwanghanda and Drenamin and Drenamin PMG from Standard Process - that my new ND recommended. They have some glandular properties and natural herbs and such???? Not sure if anyone has used them for adrenal support.

>

> Any thoughts? Thanks!

>

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Thanks for your advice - seems like Val agrees with too much T3. I guess the saying more is more does not apply here !I do not feel sick with diarrhea, no vomiting just annoying ;) and definitley not good for me. I thought Val had said potassium helped with diarrhea?As for high basals- technically yes in my luteal phase but.... My period never came.Anyway thank you so much for your response !Sent from my iPhone

Hopefully Val will be back here soon. In the meantime, thought I'd share some things:

I get edema if I take more t3 than my adrenals can handle. I think it's because there's not enough cortisol to get the t3 into the cells.

I don't think you can hurt yourself at all by just taking some potassium supps and seeing if it helps the edema.

However, do you think you're still on too much t3? Unless you're in the luteal phase of your cycle, those basals are too high. Mine are that high in my luteal phase, though.

The diarhea can be too much t3 OR too little cortisol or both! Are you vomiting??? If so, you might really be low cortisol, especially with the diarhea going on.

Do you feel ill? If you are very sick, you might want to go the ER and have them check your cortisol...

>

> Hi Val:

>

> I am doing better having dropped from 175mcg to 125mcg T3 and Im at about 9.5 weeks +/-.

>

> My pulse is in the 84-88 range down from the 110 range once I dropped the T3 lower. Plus the thumb joint pain and foot pain subsided too.

>

> I did just send in a 4x saliva test and do not have any current adrenal info to report but I think I have low adrenal symptoms?

>

> 1. Ankle Edema- oddly- seems top be in left ankle only.

>

> 2. High Basal temps??? Though I question the integrity of a the 2 non mercury thermometers that I have (one is digital and one is a "geratherm" mercury free) My basals have been 98.6, 98.7 etc...

>

> 3. Constant / chronic diarhea - which I had while using cortef 1.5 years ago as well. I had comprehensive stool analysis and I eat gluten free and whole foods. You mentioned POTASSIUM helped but I cant verify that mine is low. The ONLY thing that could be a factor- I chew way too much sugarless gum. Maybe that's the cause? Or can I try some potassium supplement?

>

> I have dumped all dairy products again- so even off dairy- still

> cannot hold onto food....which is bad... makes me hungry and probably leaves me really depleted. Could be I dont absorb anything! Including upplements....

>

> 4.No menstrual cycle this month - yet many symptoms- breast enlargement, mild cramping... though this has been an ongoing battle- NO CYCLE - low thyroid hormones.I took a pregnancy test so not pregnant :( And I want to be....

>

>

> I am taking Rhodiola, Ashwanghanda and Drenamin and Drenamin PMG from Standard Process - that my new ND recommended. They have some glandular properties and natural herbs and such???? Not sure if anyone has used them for adrenal support.

>

> Any thoughts? Thanks!

>

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Thanks for your advice - seems like Val agrees with too much T3. I guess the saying more is more does not apply here !I do not feel sick with diarrhea, no vomiting just annoying ;) and definitley not good for me. I thought Val had said potassium helped with diarrhea?As for high basals- technically yes in my luteal phase but.... My period never came.Anyway thank you so much for your response !Sent from my iPhone

Hopefully Val will be back here soon. In the meantime, thought I'd share some things:

I get edema if I take more t3 than my adrenals can handle. I think it's because there's not enough cortisol to get the t3 into the cells.

I don't think you can hurt yourself at all by just taking some potassium supps and seeing if it helps the edema.

However, do you think you're still on too much t3? Unless you're in the luteal phase of your cycle, those basals are too high. Mine are that high in my luteal phase, though.

The diarhea can be too much t3 OR too little cortisol or both! Are you vomiting??? If so, you might really be low cortisol, especially with the diarhea going on.

Do you feel ill? If you are very sick, you might want to go the ER and have them check your cortisol...

>

> Hi Val:

>

> I am doing better having dropped from 175mcg to 125mcg T3 and Im at about 9.5 weeks +/-.

>

> My pulse is in the 84-88 range down from the 110 range once I dropped the T3 lower. Plus the thumb joint pain and foot pain subsided too.

>

> I did just send in a 4x saliva test and do not have any current adrenal info to report but I think I have low adrenal symptoms?

>

> 1. Ankle Edema- oddly- seems top be in left ankle only.

>

> 2. High Basal temps??? Though I question the integrity of a the 2 non mercury thermometers that I have (one is digital and one is a "geratherm" mercury free) My basals have been 98.6, 98.7 etc...

>

> 3. Constant / chronic diarhea - which I had while using cortef 1.5 years ago as well. I had comprehensive stool analysis and I eat gluten free and whole foods. You mentioned POTASSIUM helped but I cant verify that mine is low. The ONLY thing that could be a factor- I chew way too much sugarless gum. Maybe that's the cause? Or can I try some potassium supplement?

>

> I have dumped all dairy products again- so even off dairy- still

> cannot hold onto food....which is bad... makes me hungry and probably leaves me really depleted. Could be I dont absorb anything! Including upplements....

>

> 4.No menstrual cycle this month - yet many symptoms- breast enlargement, mild cramping... though this has been an ongoing battle- NO CYCLE - low thyroid hormones.I took a pregnancy test so not pregnant :( And I want to be....

>

>

> I am taking Rhodiola, Ashwanghanda and Drenamin and Drenamin PMG from Standard Process - that my new ND recommended. They have some glandular properties and natural herbs and such???? Not sure if anyone has used them for adrenal support.

>

> Any thoughts? Thanks!

>

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Thanks Val I will lower the T3. Would it also help to do 12.5 increments rather than 25mcg per dose?Is 100 mcg down from 125 mcg reasonable?Will potassium help my diarrhea? Can I try it or no- because no electrolyte panel?Thank you!!Sent from my iPhone

I think you need ot lower the T3 even more, It sounds like it is beating

your adrenalks to death.

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Thanks Val I will lower the T3. Would it also help to do 12.5 increments rather than 25mcg per dose?Is 100 mcg down from 125 mcg reasonable?Will potassium help my diarrhea? Can I try it or no- because no electrolyte panel?Thank you!!Sent from my iPhone

I think you need ot lower the T3 even more, It sounds like it is beating

your adrenalks to death.

--

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http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

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Thanks Val I will lower the T3. Would it also help to do 12.5 increments rather than 25mcg per dose?Is 100 mcg down from 125 mcg reasonable?Will potassium help my diarrhea? Can I try it or no- because no electrolyte panel?Thank you!!Sent from my iPhone

I think you need ot lower the T3 even more, It sounds like it is beating

your adrenalks to death.

--

Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV

http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HypoPets/

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Potassium helped with MY diarrhea but only because mine was being caused

by potasisum deficiency. It wil not help to take potassium to corretc

diarreha caused by too high T3.

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http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

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Potassium helped with MY diarrhea but only because mine was being caused

by potasisum deficiency. It wil not help to take potassium to corretc

diarreha caused by too high T3.

--

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http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HypoPets/

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Potassium helped with MY diarrhea but only because mine was being caused

by potasisum deficiency. It wil not help to take potassium to corretc

diarreha caused by too high T3.

--

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http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

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I woudl NOT supplement potassium wihtout testing it first. High

potassium can kill you,. so it is dangerous to no tknwo whether oyu need

it or not. I doubt splitting the dose would hlpe but lowering it shoudl

help eithin a coupel days.

--

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http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

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I woudl NOT supplement potassium wihtout testing it first. High

potassium can kill you,. so it is dangerous to no tknwo whether oyu need

it or not. I doubt splitting the dose would hlpe but lowering it shoudl

help eithin a coupel days.

--

Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV

http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

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I woudl NOT supplement potassium wihtout testing it first. High

potassium can kill you,. so it is dangerous to no tknwo whether oyu need

it or not. I doubt splitting the dose would hlpe but lowering it shoudl

help eithin a coupel days.

--

Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV

http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

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But I have had diarrhea for about 1.5 years though maybe because I always had t3 pooling? Used to be on 4grains plus 40 mcg srt3. And it started when on cortef. Never resolved....Sent from my iPhone

Potassium helped with MY diarrhea but only because mine was being caused

by potasisum deficiency. It wil not help to take potassium to corretc

diarreha caused by too high T3.

--

Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV

http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HypoPets/

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But I have had diarrhea for about 1.5 years though maybe because I always had t3 pooling? Used to be on 4grains plus 40 mcg srt3. And it started when on cortef. Never resolved....Sent from my iPhone

Potassium helped with MY diarrhea but only because mine was being caused

by potasisum deficiency. It wil not help to take potassium to corretc

diarreha caused by too high T3.

--

Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV

http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HypoPets/

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But I have had diarrhea for about 1.5 years though maybe because I always had t3 pooling? Used to be on 4grains plus 40 mcg srt3. And it started when on cortef. Never resolved....Sent from my iPhone

Potassium helped with MY diarrhea but only because mine was being caused

by potasisum deficiency. It wil not help to take potassium to corretc

diarreha caused by too high T3.

--

Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV

http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HypoPets/

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Ok got it. No potassium. I will have an electrolyte panel next week. Great deal at directlabs.com. Comprehensive wellness profile $59 on sale thru tomorrow. Thanks Val. I am a notorious self dosed- way too many supplements especially the "energy" ones in my past. Did me in.Sent from my iPhone

I woudl NOT supplement potassium wihtout testing it first. High

potassium can kill you,. so it is dangerous to no tknwo whether oyu need

it or not. I doubt splitting the dose would hlpe but lowering it shoudl

help eithin a coupel days.

--

Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV

http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HypoPets/

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Ok got it. No potassium. I will have an electrolyte panel next week. Great deal at directlabs.com. Comprehensive wellness profile $59 on sale thru tomorrow. Thanks Val. I am a notorious self dosed- way too many supplements especially the "energy" ones in my past. Did me in.Sent from my iPhone

I woudl NOT supplement potassium wihtout testing it first. High

potassium can kill you,. so it is dangerous to no tknwo whether oyu need

it or not. I doubt splitting the dose would hlpe but lowering it shoudl

help eithin a coupel days.

--

Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV

http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HypoPets/

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Ok got it. No potassium. I will have an electrolyte panel next week. Great deal at directlabs.com. Comprehensive wellness profile $59 on sale thru tomorrow. Thanks Val. I am a notorious self dosed- way too many supplements especially the "energy" ones in my past. Did me in.Sent from my iPhone

I woudl NOT supplement potassium wihtout testing it first. High

potassium can kill you,. so it is dangerous to no tknwo whether oyu need

it or not. I doubt splitting the dose would hlpe but lowering it shoudl

help eithin a coupel days.

--

Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV

http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HypoPets/

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Hi Bonnie!

This is how my femural 'deep vein thrombosis' started out. Do you have any pain

(foot, ankle or calf of this limb)? Thrombosis is nothing to take lightly as it

is life threatening. Have you ever been told that you have 'very thick blood'

or 'very sticky blood'? They are two different things, both related to being

hypoT, but caused by different aspects of being hypoT and combined, or

separately, can contribute to thrombosis. Do you have a family history of

anyone having a thrombosis? If any of these are true, you need to contact your

doctor ASAP, and get a venus dopplar ultrasound.

....

> 1. Ankle Edema- oddly- seems top be in left ankle only.

....

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Hi :

My ankle history is sort of long- and I have flay feet- week ankles.

I really did them in with too much activity while training for bodybuilding

show- also killed my adrenals!!!

Ankles stayed swollen and seemed like I would need surgery on that left one -

even had a consult.

Pains went away on cortef. Surgeons obviously have no idea about

AF.

Ankle edema on and off since 2006- first with the injury- then with AF, then

with too much cortef and now again... perhaps too much T3 pooling...

I have some level of thyroid resistance and am doing T3 only - it is weird to

have just the LEFT ankle. It is the right one with all the crazy little spider

veins....

No history of thrombosis. No pains - Never been told I have sticky or thick

blood and I have had many blood draws.

I will however keep a look out - and I appreciate the heads up!

> ...

> > 1. Ankle Edema- oddly- seems top be in left ankle only.

> ...

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