Re: Vision Therapy for flighty eye contact??

February 27, 2011

The toe walking is not in his feet and the eye problems arent in his eyes. It's

symptoms of a bigger picture. I think thats where so many get lost. They try to

break it down into treating each symptom rather than treating the overall body.

Your child most likely needs biomedical intervention to address the underlying

causes. Virus, Vitamin Deficiency, Mineral Deficiency, Strep, Parasites,

Metals... all possiblities.

Cheryl

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> Again my 3 year old has gone from poor eye contact to now flighty eye contact.

I still think his Peripheal vision has never been 100%, because I could still

wave an object on the side of his face and he won & #39;t even flinch.

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> An Optrometist visit cost & #39;s $176.00 per hour....not sure if it & #39;s worth

it or even know what they could recommend to help out my son. Anyone has any

thoughts or experience with this?

>

February 27, 2011

The toe walking is not in his feet and the eye problems arent in his eyes. It's

symptoms of a bigger picture. I think thats where so many get lost. They try to

break it down into treating each symptom rather than treating the overall body.

Your child most likely needs biomedical intervention to address the underlying

causes. Virus, Vitamin Deficiency, Mineral Deficiency, Strep, Parasites,

Metals... all possiblities.

Cheryl

>

> Again my 3 year old has gone from poor eye contact to now flighty eye contact.

I still think his Peripheal vision has never been 100%, because I could still

wave an object on the side of his face and he won & #39;t even flinch.

>

> An Optrometist visit cost & #39;s $176.00 per hour....not sure if it & #39;s worth

it or even know what they could recommend to help out my son. Anyone has any

thoughts or experience with this?

>

February 27, 2011

lol at book. That was paragraph compared to most of mine.

I think i know what you are feeling. I did most(all and more) of those things

except HBot and Vancomycin. I did the AC chelation. Some helped. Some didnt.

I would really investigate the iodine factor, if you have it in you to try one

more thing. Well, not just one thing ;-) another protocol. I can feel you

cringe! Yes i know how horrid that sounds.Been there.

I would also check your own iodine levels because i have seen very few parents

of autistic children that dont have issues themselves, myself included. Which

kept getting worse as i got older. And after more than a year on iodine i have

to say my health and mental health is so much better it's not even comparable to

before.

I think your son still has virus and parasites probably yeast.He may still have

it all, with metals and strep. It may have been tampered down with biomed but

not eliminated. I know that sounds bleak but i do think there is hope so dont

give up hope just yet.

The GAP diet seems to have alot of high oxalate and goitrogenic foods. I knew

nothing about it (GAP) before i googled it just now so someone else can correct

me if i am wrong.

On the little i have read about the Low Ox Diet,and oxalates (i had no idea

until recently what oxalates were or did, just like i knew nothing about

goitrogens a year ago) i think i can see why it is helping people. I think it

all boils down to not enough available iodine.

I admit that i have never tried diet, except to eliminate most milk(which

helped a little). Used enzymes which i do think help. Lessen consupmption of

bread. Increase protein, mostly chicken. Good Fats. Organic veggies (mostly i

grow my own). The potatoes thing is really making me wonder. I love potatoes,

loves potatoes. I think it would be interesting to see what would happen

a week or so without them. I am increasing his dosage this week so will be

interesting to see what else happens, too.And i intend to add the Black Walnut

hulls and Wormwood. Fairly convinced mostly parasites remain now.

I have found our current protocol much easier to afford and maintain than

previous ones (and ive had a few!).

Lugols Iodine, Mag (Chloride and Malate), Se, Natural Salt, Vit C, Water(lots)

Tyrosine, D3, Inositol, Niacin, B2, B combo, (and if i am repeating myself from

a previous post forgive me i think i just wrote the supps list but not sure if

it was for your post). I also take Nutri-Meds Porcine Thyroid. You can do

additional supps, or not. The ones listed are considered mandatory with the

exception of D3, Tyrosine and Inositol, i just think they are needed. I havent

seen the need for Biotin,Folic or Taurine anymore, since a few months after

iodine supplementation. Or i imagined it and wanted to lessen the number of

pills i take Either way, skin, hair, nails and gut are good.

And i just wrote another book. I think it will help. I could be wrong. Been

wrong before.It's worth a try before you give up.

Cheryl

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> I & #39;ve done so much Cheryl in the past 2 1/2 years...from Gluthadione

Transdermal creams, Enhansa, B12 shots, probiotics, GF/CF diet since he was 18

months.

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> To vitamins: TMG, Taurine, Miscellized A, D3, zinc, Vegan Protein powder, cod

liver oil, omega, Houston Enzymes, B6, DMG, viamin E, Calcium, methyl-Folate,

Coq10, L-Carnitine & L-Carnitine Acetyl....

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> 3 rounds of Vancomycin for his Clostridia, Difflucan, Valtrex

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> To 40 dives of HBOT, Hippo-Therapy, hours of OT, Speech Therapy & 20 hours of

weekly private ABA sessions, Special Pre-K.

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> I mean some symptoms have improved like he no longer touches his ears, spins

toys, ignores us entirely, stopped the major flapping....but he still stares off

for 2 minutes, does some vocal stims, still echolalic, runs & walks on his toes,

has that flighty eye contact and doesn & #39;t speak in sentences or know how to

express himself yet, oh and the dreadful potty training has been such a flop!

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> Not sure what to do at this point, I & #39;m very desperate and feel so lost. My

next step is trying the GAP & #39;s diet, it seems to target most underlying

problems like Clostridia, Yeast, Fungus...maybe I & #39;ll restart Valtrex with

Difflucan again???

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> I also bought Dr. Goldbergs, book on the " Myth on Autism " , can & #39;t help but

think about Marcia Hinds inspirational recovery story...I wonder how is she

these days.

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> Anyways, so sorry for the horrendous book I & #39;m sending, but it & #39;s just

pure madness, and I & #39;ve lost my enthusiasm, feel a bit depressed and tired of

the fanatical & truly expensive Biomedical Protocals. I try to stay positive,

but it can be deteriating. I admire your focus & wisdom and wish I to could say

I have a recovered kid and have the honor to help parents on this forum like

you, God bless you Cheryl and all the wonderful parents on this forum!!!!

>

February 27, 2011

Ewwwwwwww. TMI! I know things like this can be in us but it still has the same

shock effect when i see just how much they are in us ! Really yuck. Just makes

me want to make sure there are none in me!

I get most mine at Swansons.

C http://www.swansonvitamins.com/NCL028/ItemDetail?n=0 This is a buffered c so

it has calcium and magnesium as carbonate. I also use their Pureway C which is

a liposomal C.

Mag http://www.swansonvitamins.com/SN120/ItemDetail Magnesium Malate is

tolerated well internally

Mag http://www.swansonvitamins.com/NCL018/ItemDetail?n=0

This is magnesium chloride, I put it in a spray bottle and spray it on. You dont

have to have 2 kinds of mag, and i use Mag Chloride more often than the malate,

i like to use Mag Malate every so often because it's good for the liver.

http://www.swansonvitamins.com/SW043/ItemDetail?n=0 This is 100mg niacin. I get

50mg niacin at my local pharmacy. I like the smaller mg cause you can take it a

several times during the day to keep levels up without flushing.

Selenium

http://www.swansonvitamins.com/SWU171/ItemDetail?n=0

B2 http://www.swansonvitamins.com/NWF795/ItemDetail

Inositol:

http://www.swansonvitamins.com/JR084/ItemDetail?n=0

Tyrosine:

http://www.swansonvitamins.com/SWU513/ItemDetail?n=0

http://www.thebetterhealthstore.com/The-Real-Food-Trading-Co.-Himalayan-Pink-Sea\

-Salt-Raw-And-Natural-Mineral-Salt-1bag-2-Lb This is where i get my salt.

I think the verdict is still out on whether the iodine is enough for all

parasites and/or how much is needed for each kind. 100 years ago docs did

recommend a high dosage when it was used for parasites. Way more than i have

tried. From what i have read the black walnut hulls and wormwood seem to kill

the most. Paratrex seems to be used alot but i havent tried that yet.

OLE and pineapple seems fairly effective! I have not ever used them in

combination, that i can think of. Might be interesting to see what else comes

out with further usage.

Cheryl

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> Hey Cheryl- could you tell me where you get your supps? I've ordered the

iodine

> at your suggestion and am excited to try it, but have had a new thing come up.

> My 17month old typical baby and 3 yr old are pooping worms...it started right

> after I introduced ole and freshly juiced pineapple. They are really short,

> black, threadlike, and NUMEROUS ! Will the iodine be enough to address this or

> do I need a beefed up parasite protocol? And if so what is the best? AND..no.

> thats all. - Chrissy Mostrom

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February 27, 2011