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>

>

> > In a message dated 3/22/00 9:45:55 AM Eastern Standard Time,

> > Daffyrds54@... writes:

> >

> > <<

> > It figures!: No more free E-mail? We Knew this was coming!! Bill 602P

> will

> > permit the Federal Govt. to charge a 5 cent charge on every delivered

> email.

> > Please read the following carefully if you intend to stay online and

> > continue using E-mail: The last few months have revealed an alarming

> trend

> > in the Government of the United States attempting to quietly push

> through

> > legislation that will affect your use of the Internet. Under proposed

> > legislation the US Postal Service will be attempting to bill E-mail

users

> > out of " alternate postage fees. " Bill 602P will permit the Federal

Govt.

> to

> > charge a 5 cent surcharge on every E-mail delivered, by billing

Internet

> > Service Providers at source. The consumer would then be billed in turn

by

> > the ISP. Washington DC lawyer Stepp is working without pay to

> > prevent this legislation from becoming law. The US Postal Service is

> > claiming that lost revenue due to the proliferation of e-mail is

costing

> > nearly $230,000,000 in revenue per year. You may have seen their recent

> ad

> > campaign " There is nothing like a letter. " Since the average received

> about

> > 10 pieces of email per day in 1998, the cost to the typical individual

> would

> > be an additional 50 cents per day, or over $180 dollars per year, above

> and

> > beyond their regular Internet costs. Note that this would be money paid

> > directly to the US Postal Service for a service they do not even

provide.

> > The whole point of the Internet is democracy & noninterference. You

are

> > already paying an exorbitant price for mail because of bureaucratic

> > efficiency. It currently takes up to 6 days for a letter to be

delivered

> > from New York to Buffalo. If the US Postal Service is allowed to tinker

> with

> > email, it will mark the end of the " free " Internet in the United

States.

> One

> > Congressman, Tony Schnell has even suggested a " twenty to forty dollar

> per

> > month surcharge on all Internet service " above and beyond the

> government's

> > proposed email charges. Note that most of the major newspapers have

> ignored

> > the story, the only exception being the Washingtonian which called the

> idea

> > of email surcharge " a useful concept who's time has come " (March 6th

1999

> > Editorial). Don't sit by and watch your freedoms erode away! PLEASE

Send

> > this e-mail to EVERYONE on your list, and tell all your friends and

> > relatives to write to their congressman and say " No! " to Bill 602-P.

It

> > will only take a few moments of your time, and could very well be

> > instrumental in killing a bill we don't want.

> > >>

> >

>

>

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>

>

> > In a message dated 3/22/00 9:45:55 AM Eastern Standard Time,

> > Daffyrds54@... writes:

> >

> > <<

> > It figures!: No more free E-mail? We Knew this was coming!! Bill 602P

> will

> > permit the Federal Govt. to charge a 5 cent charge on every delivered

> email.

> > Please read the following carefully if you intend to stay online and

> > continue using E-mail: The last few months have revealed an alarming

> trend

> > in the Government of the United States attempting to quietly push

> through

> > legislation that will affect your use of the Internet. Under proposed

> > legislation the US Postal Service will be attempting to bill E-mail

users

> > out of " alternate postage fees. " Bill 602P will permit the Federal

Govt.

> to

> > charge a 5 cent surcharge on every E-mail delivered, by billing

Internet

> > Service Providers at source. The consumer would then be billed in turn

by

> > the ISP. Washington DC lawyer Stepp is working without pay to

> > prevent this legislation from becoming law. The US Postal Service is

> > claiming that lost revenue due to the proliferation of e-mail is

costing

> > nearly $230,000,000 in revenue per year. You may have seen their recent

> ad

> > campaign " There is nothing like a letter. " Since the average received

> about

> > 10 pieces of email per day in 1998, the cost to the typical individual

> would

> > be an additional 50 cents per day, or over $180 dollars per year, above

> and

> > beyond their regular Internet costs. Note that this would be money paid

> > directly to the US Postal Service for a service they do not even

provide.

> > The whole point of the Internet is democracy & noninterference. You

are

> > already paying an exorbitant price for mail because of bureaucratic

> > efficiency. It currently takes up to 6 days for a letter to be

delivered

> > from New York to Buffalo. If the US Postal Service is allowed to tinker

> with

> > email, it will mark the end of the " free " Internet in the United

States.

> One

> > Congressman, Tony Schnell has even suggested a " twenty to forty dollar

> per

> > month surcharge on all Internet service " above and beyond the

> government's

> > proposed email charges. Note that most of the major newspapers have

> ignored

> > the story, the only exception being the Washingtonian which called the

> idea

> > of email surcharge " a useful concept who's time has come " (March 6th

1999

> > Editorial). Don't sit by and watch your freedoms erode away! PLEASE

Send

> > this e-mail to EVERYONE on your list, and tell all your friends and

> > relatives to write to their congressman and say " No! " to Bill 602-P.

It

> > will only take a few moments of your time, and could very well be

> > instrumental in killing a bill we don't want.

> > >>

> >

>

>

[Guest guest]

Edith,

It was I who wrote about Dynabec. I haven't tried it, though,

because my HMO doesn't cover it. In any case, I seem to be okay

using doxycycline. Perhaps this can be another option for you. I

don't know about teeth discoloration with doxy, but it is supposed to

make you more photo-sensitive than the other cyclines.

> Hi, group

> sorry for forgetting who posted me about Dynabac, I can't find that

letter. I

> remember that it was D. Bitter's suggestion. I made my

ophthomologist

> prescribe it for me, but my derm (who is not the greatest btw) said

it's not

> good for rosacea at all. ( although this is the same guy who

laughed at me

> telling him about the teeth discoloration )

> Did anyone take Dynabac?

> After I stopped Minocycline on Friday I gradually became a walking

disaster

> again. I am gonna see my derm tomorrow but I lost faith already:

this battle

> takes not the best of me, IT TAKES EVERYTHING.

> Edith

[Guest guest]

I don't know if this would make your face break out but Coppertone Sport

Ultra Sweatproof and says it's hypoallergenic goes on dry and doesn't make me

oily. I don't use it much on my face since my makeup works as a sunscreen

though.

[Guest guest]

Try purpleemu.com and perhaps order the sample size " Solo 15 " which is a

micronized zinc formulation--it is a new formula, taking the place of

their Solo 35 which was very thick and difficult to apply (also to get

out of the tube!!). I don't know if they are selling the solo 15 yet,

or still working on the newer, easier to spread formula; but it's worth

a try, especially if you're one who does well with zinc oxide preps.

Other sunscreens/sunblocks are fine for the rest of me, but on my face,

I find the zinc sunblock the best, and very healing; over this, I place

a little of the Sy Zinco-O (tinted) and then a bronze-y powder,

since both of these zinc formulations are really LIGHT for my medium

skin tone, and the bronzer helps it all to look more natural.

Carol

Erodd89@... wrote:

>

> Hi I would like to know if anyone can help me. I'm looking for a suncreen for

> oily skin. The ones I tried leave my face feeling very oily. And I breakout

> more especially where I have rosacea. Any info will be appreciated Thanks

> Erodd89

>

>

[Guest guest]

Try purpleemu.com and perhaps order the sample size " Solo 15 " which is a

micronized zinc formulation--it is a new formula, taking the place of

their Solo 35 which was very thick and difficult to apply (also to get

out of the tube!!). I don't know if they are selling the solo 15 yet,

or still working on the newer, easier to spread formula; but it's worth

a try, especially if you're one who does well with zinc oxide preps.

Other sunscreens/sunblocks are fine for the rest of me, but on my face,

I find the zinc sunblock the best, and very healing; over this, I place

a little of the Sy Zinco-O (tinted) and then a bronze-y powder,

since both of these zinc formulations are really LIGHT for my medium

skin tone, and the bronzer helps it all to look more natural.

Carol

Erodd89@... wrote:

>

> Hi I would like to know if anyone can help me. I'm looking for a suncreen for

> oily skin. The ones I tried leave my face feeling very oily. And I breakout

> more especially where I have rosacea. Any info will be appreciated Thanks

> Erodd89

>

>

[Guest guest]

Edith -I agree with Ruth. Maybe you should try to add some of these things

you love in moderation. Try one thing at a time and see if this will not

aggrivate your skin. Hopefully if you are lucky there might be some of these

things you like that will not bother you.

This is a personal oppinion but I hope you dont take up smoking again though.

This is coming from someone who's husband had a quadruple bypass at age 42

and was a smoker then. (he does not smoke now and either do I. I used to love

to smoke also) I do know how you feel being an ex-smoker myself. I have to

say though I am very glad I quit.

Enough preaching on my part! Do try some of the things you gave up and try to

make yourself happy.

Again the best to you and everyone else for the coming New Year!

Bobbye

[Guest guest]

Edith -I agree with Ruth. Maybe you should try to add some of these things

you love in moderation. Try one thing at a time and see if this will not

aggrivate your skin. Hopefully if you are lucky there might be some of these

things you like that will not bother you.

This is a personal oppinion but I hope you dont take up smoking again though.

This is coming from someone who's husband had a quadruple bypass at age 42

and was a smoker then. (he does not smoke now and either do I. I used to love

to smoke also) I do know how you feel being an ex-smoker myself. I have to

say though I am very glad I quit.

Enough preaching on my part! Do try some of the things you gave up and try to

make yourself happy.

Again the best to you and everyone else for the coming New Year!

Bobbye

[Guest guest]

Edith -I agree with Ruth. Maybe you should try to add some of these things

you love in moderation. Try one thing at a time and see if this will not

aggrivate your skin. Hopefully if you are lucky there might be some of these

things you like that will not bother you.

This is a personal oppinion but I hope you dont take up smoking again though.

This is coming from someone who's husband had a quadruple bypass at age 42

and was a smoker then. (he does not smoke now and either do I. I used to love

to smoke also) I do know how you feel being an ex-smoker myself. I have to

say though I am very glad I quit.

Enough preaching on my part! Do try some of the things you gave up and try to

make yourself happy.

Again the best to you and everyone else for the coming New Year!

Bobbye

[Guest guest]

--- WtchHazle@... wrote:

> It seems that the photoderm furor is dying down.

> I'm wondering if this is

> mainly due to the fact that there have been so many

> dissappointments. I've

> noticed that many people who tried this procedure

> are not going back to some

> of the older methods of trying to control rosacea,

> as they have been

> unsatisfied with the results. I tried this

> procedure, and while I did

> experience a minute amount of improvement at first,

> I'm pretty much back

> where I started from.

Actually, I think the furor is dying down b/c it's not

such a new procedure to us anymore. The novelty's worn

off. Plus, many of us are nearly finished or are

finished with their series of treatments, and so you

don't see the daily postings on post-treatment

progress as much as you used to. I'm extremely

satisfied with my photoderm results--it literally gave

me back my life and sanity! I never would have been

able to achieve this level of success with topicals or

diet alone--the damage to the surface layers of my

skin was just too extensive. Certainly, Dr. Sy's

products (esp. her Zinc-O), dietary and other behavior

modifications, and stress management (very key!) have

all been major contributors to my success--they

definitely magnified the benefits I got from my

photoderm series, and will be a part of my maintenance

regimen. I'm 6 months from my last touch-up (and about

9 from my last full-face treatment), and I haven't

relapsed in any way thus far. If anything, it almost

continues to improve. W/out having had PD done, I

never would've been able to use some of the topicals I

can use now (like the Zinc-O or 's oil or the

Jane Iredale products), which further contribute to

the healing.

If you're considering photoderm--and really, most of

us should, if our resources allow it--please remember

to a) do your research ahead of time, on the procedure

itself and your practitioner; be realistic about

the results you expect to achieve; c) be willing to

communicate with your PD practitioner to ensure that

you receive the optimal treatment for you; d) be

prepared for a few setbacks--no success is ever

linear; and e) be prepared to not rely completely on

PD--rosacea is a multi-faceted condition, as we've all

determine, and thus, requires a multi-faceted

treatment strategy.

Lots of luck to all...

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

Well said, ! My experience has paralleled yours. Photoderm

is not the only answer, but it was a significant piece of the puzzle for

me.

Continued good health,

Beth

Re: (no subject)

>

> --- WtchHazle@... wrote:

> > It seems that the photoderm furor is dying down.

> > I'm wondering if this is

> > mainly due to the fact that there have been so many

> > dissappointments. I've

> > noticed that many people who tried this procedure

> > are not going back to some

> > of the older methods of trying to control rosacea,

> > as they have been

> > unsatisfied with the results. I tried this

> > procedure, and while I did

> > experience a minute amount of improvement at first,

> > I'm pretty much back

> > where I started from.

>

> Actually, I think the furor is dying down b/c it's not

> such a new procedure to us anymore. The novelty's worn

> off. Plus, many of us are nearly finished or are

> finished with their series of treatments, and so you

> don't see the daily postings on post-treatment

> progress as much as you used to. I'm extremely

> satisfied with my photoderm results--it literally gave

> me back my life and sanity! I never would have been

> able to achieve this level of success with topicals or

> diet alone--the damage to the surface layers of my

> skin was just too extensive. Certainly, Dr. Sy's

> products (esp. her Zinc-O), dietary and other behavior

> modifications, and stress management (very key!) have

> all been major contributors to my success--they

> definitely magnified the benefits I got from my

> photoderm series, and will be a part of my maintenance

> regimen. I'm 6 months from my last touch-up (and about

> 9 from my last full-face treatment), and I haven't

> relapsed in any way thus far. If anything, it almost

> continues to improve. W/out having had PD done, I

> never would've been able to use some of the topicals I

> can use now (like the Zinc-O or 's oil or the

> Jane Iredale products), which further contribute to

> the healing.

>

> If you're considering photoderm--and really, most of

> us should, if our resources allow it--please remember

> to a) do your research ahead of time, on the procedure

> itself and your practitioner; be realistic about

> the results you expect to achieve; c) be willing to

> communicate with your PD practitioner to ensure that

> you receive the optimal treatment for you; d) be

> prepared for a few setbacks--no success is ever

> linear; and e) be prepared to not rely completely on

> PD--rosacea is a multi-faceted condition, as we've all

> determine, and thus, requires a multi-faceted

> treatment strategy.

>

> Lots of luck to all...

>

>

>

>

> __________________________________________________

>

[Guest guest]

DEAR GROUP,

I USE JANE IREDALE MAKEUP AND HAVE ROSACEA. I HAVE

FOUND THAT IF I USE A GOOD MOISTURIZER, WAIT A COUPLE OF MINUTES

THEN APPLY THE MAKEUP I GET GREAT RESULTS.

ALSO, I AM CURRENTLY EXPERIMENTING WITH A NEW PRODUCT

CALLED FOREVER AGELESS. IT'S SUPPOSE TO HELP NORMALIZE SKIN AND

HELP ROSACEA TOO. I HAVE NOTICED THAT THE PUSTULES ARE NOW GONE

AFTER USING THIS PRODUCT FOR TWO WEEKS. I HAVE BOUGHT THE JANE

IREDALE MAKEUP FROM AZAFTIGWOMAN.COM. THEY SAID THEY WILL ALSO

BE CARRYING FOREVER AGELESS IN ABOUT TWO WEEKS. I BOUGHT WHAT

I HAVE NOW AT A LOCAL SALON.

HOPE THIS INFO HELPS.

[Guest guest]

DEAR GROUP,

I USE JANE IREDALE MAKEUP AND HAVE ROSACEA. I HAVE

FOUND THAT IF I USE A GOOD MOISTURIZER, WAIT A COUPLE OF MINUTES

THEN APPLY THE MAKEUP I GET GREAT RESULTS.

ALSO, I AM CURRENTLY EXPERIMENTING WITH A NEW PRODUCT

CALLED FOREVER AGELESS. IT'S SUPPOSE TO HELP NORMALIZE SKIN AND

HELP ROSACEA TOO. I HAVE NOTICED THAT THE PUSTULES ARE NOW GONE

AFTER USING THIS PRODUCT FOR TWO WEEKS. I HAVE BOUGHT THE JANE

IREDALE MAKEUP FROM AZAFTIGWOMAN.COM. THEY SAID THEY WILL ALSO

BE CARRYING FOREVER AGELESS IN ABOUT TWO WEEKS. I BOUGHT WHAT

I HAVE NOW AT A LOCAL SALON.

HOPE THIS INFO HELPS.

[Guest guest]

DEAR GROUP,

I USE JANE IREDALE MAKEUP AND HAVE ROSACEA. I HAVE

FOUND THAT IF I USE A GOOD MOISTURIZER, WAIT A COUPLE OF MINUTES

THEN APPLY THE MAKEUP I GET GREAT RESULTS.

ALSO, I AM CURRENTLY EXPERIMENTING WITH A NEW PRODUCT

CALLED FOREVER AGELESS. IT'S SUPPOSE TO HELP NORMALIZE SKIN AND

HELP ROSACEA TOO. I HAVE NOTICED THAT THE PUSTULES ARE NOW GONE

AFTER USING THIS PRODUCT FOR TWO WEEKS. I HAVE BOUGHT THE JANE

IREDALE MAKEUP FROM AZAFTIGWOMAN.COM. THEY SAID THEY WILL ALSO

BE CARRYING FOREVER AGELESS IN ABOUT TWO WEEKS. I BOUGHT WHAT

I HAVE NOW AT A LOCAL SALON.

HOPE THIS INFO HELPS.

[Guest guest]

Cheryl

It is bad to suppress laughter;

it goes back down and spreads to your hips

[Guest guest]

Cheryl

It is bad to suppress laughter;

it goes back down and spreads to your hips

[Guest guest]

Cheryl

It is bad to suppress laughter;

it goes back down and spreads to your hips

[Guest guest]

Don,

Thanks for posting all of Jeff's quotes..... they are so funny and always

manage to put a smile on my face - even during those PMS days when we women

hate everything!

Thanks!

BTW, I met with the nutritionist today and even had that psych eval done. I

am on my way down the WLS road! YEAH!!!!

Have a great weekend everyone

Matina

[Guest guest]

Don,

Thanks for posting all of Jeff's quotes..... they are so funny and always

manage to put a smile on my face - even during those PMS days when we women

hate everything!

Thanks!

BTW, I met with the nutritionist today and even had that psych eval done. I

am on my way down the WLS road! YEAH!!!!

Have a great weekend everyone

Matina

[Guest guest]

Don,

Thanks for posting all of Jeff's quotes..... they are so funny and always

manage to put a smile on my face - even during those PMS days when we women

hate everything!

Thanks!

BTW, I met with the nutritionist today and even had that psych eval done. I

am on my way down the WLS road! YEAH!!!!

Have a great weekend everyone

Matina

[Guest guest]

Don-

Thanks for posting this! Now I can look through and see which ones I haven't

used already. I saw a couple of duplicates...but I want to keep having new

stuff for you guys!

By the way...I get these tag-lines from a number of sources, including Don and

Pam. Thanks guys!

Jeff

~If at first you don't succeed, see if the loser gets anything~

(no subject)

Ok folks,

you all know that we like Jeff's little tag lines on his postings. I

have kept a file of them and thought you would enjoy seeing them again

Don

Eagles may soar, but weasels don't get sucked into jet engines.

If you choose between two evils, pick one you've never tried before.

The things that come to those that wait may be the things left by those

who got there first.

Why don't you ever see the headline " Psychic Wins Lottery " ?

Air goes in and out...blood goes 'round and 'round. Any deviation to this is

a BAD THING

How do I set a laser printer to stun?

If they squeeze olives to get olive oil, how do they get baby oil?

I can't remember if I'm the good twin or the evil one.

" Women might be able to fake orgasms. But men can fake whole

relationships. " (Sharon Stone)

Everyone thinks I'm psychotic, except for my friends deep inside the earth.

If it's true that we are here to help others, then what exactly are the

OTHERS here for?

If God wanted me to touch my toes, he would have put them on my knees.

Why isn't there mouse-flavored cat food?

A bus station is where a bus stops. A train station is where a train stops.

On my desk,

I have a work station...

No, an erection does NOT count as personal growth!

He who dies with the most toys is nonetheless dead.

I know I'm not going to understand women. I'll never understand how you can

take

boiling hot wax, pour it onto your upper thigh, rip the hair out by the root,

and still

be afraid of a spider.

Incontinence Hotline... " Can you hold, please? "

" In elementary school, in case of fire you have to line up quietly in a

single file

line from smallest to tallest. What is the logic? Do Tall people burn

slower? "

I've taken a vow of poverty. To annoy me, send money.

If carrots are so good for the eyes, how come I see so many dead rabbits

on the highway?

I don't suffer from insanity, I enjoy every minute of it.

If the police arrest a mime, do they have to tell that he has a right to

remain silent?

Stress is when you wake up screaming and you realize you haven't fallen

asleep yet.

Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level, then beat you

with experience.

Give me ambiguity or give me something else.

What do people mean when they say the computer went down on them?

The Ajax man, the Maytag man and Mr. Clean are all bachelors. And that, my

friends, is proof that women prefer men who talk dirty!

Only in America do banks leave both doors open and then chain the pens to

the counters

The Pillsbury doughboy is way too happy considering he has no genitals.

People say that hard work never killed anybody, but did you ever know

anybody who rested to death?

Give me ambiguity or give me something else.

Why is lemon juice made with artificial flavor, and dishwashing liquid made

with real lemons?

Did you ever notice when you blow in a dog's face he gets mad at you, but

when you take him in a car he sticks his head out the window?

The statistics on sanity are that one out of every four Americans is

suffering

from some form of mental illness. Think of your three best friends. If they

are

okay, then it's you.

If carrots are so good for the eyes, how come I see so many dead rabbits

on the highway?

You know that indestructible black box that is used on airplanes? Why

don't they make the whole plane out of that stuff?

Remember, no matter how good-looking she is, some guy, somewhere is

tired of putting up with her crap

If men had breasts, they would wear off the pockets of their shirts

[Guest guest]

I only know the sublingual go under your tongue.

[Guest guest]

I only know the sublingual go under your tongue.

[Guest guest]

I only know the sublingual go under your tongue.

[Guest guest]

thanks for the info. ann