Guest guest Posted March 16, 2011 Report Share Posted March 16, 2011 Hello Jesica, Sorry, I am still in the beginning. I thought virastop was just for virus. in the autismpedia they say that virastop can increse yeast. Thank you, le > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > My daughter got positive for bacteria Clostridium and fungi Geotrichium. Do you have any idea how to treat them? > > > > > > > > Thank you, > > > > le > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2011 Report Share Posted March 16, 2011 Hello Jesica, Sorry, I am still in the beginning. I thought virastop was just for virus. in the autismpedia they say that virastop can increse yeast. Thank you, le > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > My daughter got positive for bacteria Clostridium and fungi Geotrichium. Do you have any idea how to treat them? > > > > > > > > Thank you, > > > > le > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2011 Report Share Posted March 16, 2011 Hello Jesica, Sorry, I am still in the beginning. I thought virastop was just for virus. in the autismpedia they say that virastop can increse yeast. Thank you, le > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > My daughter got positive for bacteria Clostridium and fungi Geotrichium. Do you have any idea how to treat them? > > > > > > > > Thank you, > > > > le > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2011 Report Share Posted March 16, 2011 Does anyone know where 2 get a list of - WHAT clostridia is causing WHAT symptom"? I agree, and if is this clostridia who is causing her hyper, angry, sensory seeking mood, so this is the type of clostridia she has. I will have to research more. I also read about the biofilm protocol. Seems to be so complicated to put in practice with a kid who doesn´t eat well in the morning and needs to be hold to take her medicine and supplements. I am lost. le > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > My daughter got positive for bacteria Clostridium and fungi Geotrichium. Do you have any idea how to treat them? > > > > > > > > Thank you, > > > > le > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2011 Report Share Posted March 16, 2011 Does anyone know where 2 get a list of - WHAT clostridia is causing WHAT symptom"? I agree, and if is this clostridia who is causing her hyper, angry, sensory seeking mood, so this is the type of clostridia she has. I will have to research more. I also read about the biofilm protocol. Seems to be so complicated to put in practice with a kid who doesn´t eat well in the morning and needs to be hold to take her medicine and supplements. I am lost. le > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > My daughter got positive for bacteria Clostridium and fungi Geotrichium. Do you have any idea how to treat them? > > > > > > > > Thank you, > > > > le > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2011 Report Share Posted March 16, 2011 Does anyone know where 2 get a list of - WHAT clostridia is causing WHAT symptom"? I agree, and if is this clostridia who is causing her hyper, angry, sensory seeking mood, so this is the type of clostridia she has. I will have to research more. I also read about the biofilm protocol. Seems to be so complicated to put in practice with a kid who doesn´t eat well in the morning and needs to be hold to take her medicine and supplements. I am lost. le > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > My daughter got positive for bacteria Clostridium and fungi Geotrichium. Do you have any idea how to treat them? > > > > > > > > Thank you, > > > > le > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2011 Report Share Posted March 16, 2011 le, Viral die off causes an increase in yeast, yes, so you would want to attack it with more of whatever your yeast protocol is, but that doesn't mean the Virastop doesn't make the yeast more vulnerable by breaking through the cell walls to allow your yeast protocol to better attack it. It's all so confusing, lol. The increase in yeast is not due tot he Virastop, it's related to the level of viral die-off. > > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > My daughter got positive for bacteria Clostridium and fungi Geotrichium. Do you have any idea how to treat them? > > > > > > > > > > Thank you, > > > > > le > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2011 Report Share Posted March 16, 2011 Yes, GFCF and free of all IgG positive foods. We have since added the LOD (low oxalate diet) and I wish I did that long ago. > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > My daughter got positive for bacteria Clostridium and fungi Geotrichium. Do you have any idea how to treat them? > > > > > > > > Thank you, > > > > le > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2011 Report Share Posted March 16, 2011 Yes, GFCF and free of all IgG positive foods. We have since added the LOD (low oxalate diet) and I wish I did that long ago. > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > My daughter got positive for bacteria Clostridium and fungi Geotrichium. Do you have any idea how to treat them? > > > > > > > > Thank you, > > > > le > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2011 Report Share Posted March 16, 2011 Hmmm, is that a brand, I can't seem to find anything on it. Is it programmable, with the metal bars to hold in each hand for the treatment? I wonder if brand matters or if it's the specifications that matter most. I don't want to spend that kind of money on something that doesn't work. Do you change the frequency to address different " bugs " like clostridia versus parasite A or B, etc...? > >> > > > >> > > Hi, > >> > > My daughter got positive for bacteria Clostridium and fungi > >> > > Geotrichium. > >> > Do you have any idea how to treat them? > >> > > > >> > > Thank you, > >> > > le > >> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Cotter > >> 4 Pollerton Manor > >> Carlow > >> 059 9134964 > >> 087 2637921 > >> > > > > > > > > > -- > Cotter > 4 Pollerton Manor > Carlow > 059 9134964 > 087 2637921 > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2011 Report Share Posted March 16, 2011 Hmmm, is that a brand, I can't seem to find anything on it. Is it programmable, with the metal bars to hold in each hand for the treatment? I wonder if brand matters or if it's the specifications that matter most. I don't want to spend that kind of money on something that doesn't work. Do you change the frequency to address different " bugs " like clostridia versus parasite A or B, etc...? > >> > > > >> > > Hi, > >> > > My daughter got positive for bacteria Clostridium and fungi > >> > > Geotrichium. > >> > Do you have any idea how to treat them? > >> > > > >> > > Thank you, > >> > > le > >> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Cotter > >> 4 Pollerton Manor > >> Carlow > >> 059 9134964 > >> 087 2637921 > >> > > > > > > > > > -- > Cotter > 4 Pollerton Manor > Carlow > 059 9134964 > 087 2637921 > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2011 Report Share Posted March 16, 2011 Hmmm, is that a brand, I can't seem to find anything on it. Is it programmable, with the metal bars to hold in each hand for the treatment? I wonder if brand matters or if it's the specifications that matter most. I don't want to spend that kind of money on something that doesn't work. Do you change the frequency to address different " bugs " like clostridia versus parasite A or B, etc...? > >> > > > >> > > Hi, > >> > > My daughter got positive for bacteria Clostridium and fungi > >> > > Geotrichium. > >> > Do you have any idea how to treat them? > >> > > > >> > > Thank you, > >> > > le > >> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Cotter > >> 4 Pollerton Manor > >> Carlow > >> 059 9134964 > >> 087 2637921 > >> > > > > > > > > > -- > Cotter > 4 Pollerton Manor > Carlow > 059 9134964 > 087 2637921 > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2011 Report Share Posted March 16, 2011 Ok thanks. I just wanted to make sure it still worked for you without a diet like scd. Re: Clostridium Yes, GFCF and free of all IgG positive foods. We have since added the LOD (low oxalate diet) and I wish I did that long ago. > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > My daughter got positive for bacteria Clostridium and fungi Geotrichium. Do you have any idea how to treat them? > > > > > > > > Thank you, > > > > le > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2011 Report Share Posted March 16, 2011 Ok thanks. I just wanted to make sure it still worked for you without a diet like scd. Re: Clostridium Yes, GFCF and free of all IgG positive foods. We have since added the LOD (low oxalate diet) and I wish I did that long ago. > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > My daughter got positive for bacteria Clostridium and fungi Geotrichium. Do you have any idea how to treat them? > > > > > > > > Thank you, > > > > le > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2011 Report Share Posted March 16, 2011 Ok thanks. I just wanted to make sure it still worked for you without a diet like scd. Re: Clostridium Yes, GFCF and free of all IgG positive foods. We have since added the LOD (low oxalate diet) and I wish I did that long ago. > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > My daughter got positive for bacteria Clostridium and fungi Geotrichium. Do you have any idea how to treat them? > > > > > > > > Thank you, > > > > le > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2011 Report Share Posted March 16, 2011 We use foot pedals with our son put it on at night there are also hand but he def would not hold on to them. Some of the programmes are very long there is diff frequency for each programme you just input it . Comes with book of frequencys . Yes thats the model name we just went with that one because st seems to be high quality it i. > Hmmm, is that a brand, I can't seem to find anything on it. Is it > programmable, with the metal bars to hold in each hand for the treatment? I > wonder if brand matters or if it's the specifications that matter most. I > don't want to spend that kind of money on something that doesn't work. Do > you change the frequency to address different " bugs " like clostridia versus > parasite A or B, etc...? > > > > >> >> > > >> >> > > Hi, >> >> > > My daughter got positive for bacteria Clostridium and fungi >> >> > > Geotrichium. >> >> > Do you have any idea how to treat them? >> >> > > >> >> > > Thank you, >> >> > > le >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Cotter >> >> 4 Pollerton Manor >> >> Carlow >> >> 059 9134964 >> >> 087 2637921 >> >> >> > >> > >> > >> >> >> -- >> Cotter >> 4 Pollerton Manor >> Carlow >> 059 9134964 >> 087 2637921 >> > > > -- Cotter 4 Pollerton Manor Carlow 059 9134964 087 2637921 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2011 Report Share Posted March 16, 2011 Holy god, I think I'm dealing with biofilm!!! I hadn't realized it before but I started giving enzymes on an empty stomach because I felt there was " mucous " or something that was wrecking havoc in my daughter's gut. I experienced something that is similar to what you describe except she doesn't get the anger or aggression, but it's more related to her poop. If I stop the enzymes, the poops deteriorate -- and the cause is probably clostridia or something (we're still waiting for our OAT results to come back right now). Culturelle and Sacc B would only work like a charm if I give her several enzymes on an empty stomach about an hour ahead of time. Biofilm never even occurred to me. Pretty much all enzymes worked ok but only if I did them the way that you described on your blog. Wow, I'm so glad I read this thread. Do fats like CLO or even foods cooked with oils impact how biofilms are treated? Am I helping the enemy by giving CLO? Also, what are you doing about the metals being released as you're treating the biofilm? Are you chelating at the same time you treat biofilm?  Keep in mind that as you are killing off the bacteria, you will get die-off which causes a worsening of symptoms, before they get better. With the Clostridia, my son was very angry, negative, had OCD symptoms, sensory symptoms, lost his frustration threshold completely, he would go from 0 to 60 in no time when frustrated by something, he was just an all around difficult person to live with. These symptoms all got worse with treatment, initially. Then without fail, 6-8 weeks after stopping the prescriptions, it would slowly build back up again and next thing we knew, we were back where we started. He was a dream when the course of antibiotics were newly finished, but week by week, things would start looking " off " again and it would almost feel like overnight we had the dreaded beast back again. If we thought back over the previous weeks, we would say, " hmmmm, yup, this was developing slowly, wasn't it? " It wasn't until we added the biofilm that we were able to KEEP things under control. We revisted the biofilm protocol some months after that first course of using it, just to clean things up a bit, because we thought we saw some symptoms again and it worked much faster that time. We probably caught it earlier, plus had been doing chelation that whole time. Without the chelation, you are just chasing your tail. Consider reading about Andy Cutler and his chelation protocol. Yeast is different, it makes him more giddy and hyper, inappropriate laughter and behaviors, with LOTS of sensory seeking. > > > > > > Hi, > > > My daughter got positive for bacteria Clostridium and fungi Geotrichium. Do you have any idea how to treat them? > > > > > > Thank you, > > > le > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2011 Report Share Posted March 16, 2011 Holy god, I think I'm dealing with biofilm!!! I hadn't realized it before but I started giving enzymes on an empty stomach because I felt there was " mucous " or something that was wrecking havoc in my daughter's gut. I experienced something that is similar to what you describe except she doesn't get the anger or aggression, but it's more related to her poop. If I stop the enzymes, the poops deteriorate -- and the cause is probably clostridia or something (we're still waiting for our OAT results to come back right now). Culturelle and Sacc B would only work like a charm if I give her several enzymes on an empty stomach about an hour ahead of time. Biofilm never even occurred to me. Pretty much all enzymes worked ok but only if I did them the way that you described on your blog. Wow, I'm so glad I read this thread. Do fats like CLO or even foods cooked with oils impact how biofilms are treated? Am I helping the enemy by giving CLO? Also, what are you doing about the metals being released as you're treating the biofilm? Are you chelating at the same time you treat biofilm?  Keep in mind that as you are killing off the bacteria, you will get die-off which causes a worsening of symptoms, before they get better. With the Clostridia, my son was very angry, negative, had OCD symptoms, sensory symptoms, lost his frustration threshold completely, he would go from 0 to 60 in no time when frustrated by something, he was just an all around difficult person to live with. These symptoms all got worse with treatment, initially. Then without fail, 6-8 weeks after stopping the prescriptions, it would slowly build back up again and next thing we knew, we were back where we started. He was a dream when the course of antibiotics were newly finished, but week by week, things would start looking " off " again and it would almost feel like overnight we had the dreaded beast back again. If we thought back over the previous weeks, we would say, " hmmmm, yup, this was developing slowly, wasn't it? " It wasn't until we added the biofilm that we were able to KEEP things under control. We revisted the biofilm protocol some months after that first course of using it, just to clean things up a bit, because we thought we saw some symptoms again and it worked much faster that time. We probably caught it earlier, plus had been doing chelation that whole time. Without the chelation, you are just chasing your tail. Consider reading about Andy Cutler and his chelation protocol. Yeast is different, it makes him more giddy and hyper, inappropriate laughter and behaviors, with LOTS of sensory seeking. > > > > > > Hi, > > > My daughter got positive for bacteria Clostridium and fungi Geotrichium. Do you have any idea how to treat them? > > > > > > Thank you, > > > le > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 17, 2011 Report Share Posted March 17, 2011 Ahhh!!! Got it!!!! It´s really difficult all this biomedical thing. Thanks for helping me. So I can use Virastop for clostridia and a yeast protocol at the same time or I should start with one or the other? Thank again, le > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > My daughter got positive for bacteria Clostridium and fungi Geotrichium. Do you have any idea how to treat them? > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you, > > > > > > le > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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