Guest guest Posted November 4, 2011 Report Share Posted November 4, 2011 Tilley,I say YES. i think it's important to keep water handy, and to make sure you are not eating when really you are thirsty, but yes, i think you can listen to your body. and yes, i doubt the wisdom of those that say we are dehydrated all the time. i think our bodies are actually pretty darn smart if we are smart enough to listen to them! best,abby Okay folks, here's a question for you: if IE is all about listening to your body in regards to eating, what about water? All the " experts " say that we don't drink enough water, that most Americans are running around dehydrated, and we should drink X number of glasses of water per day. I know so many people who carry around enormous containers of water and force themselves to drink drink drink. (And then they're up all night peeing). Shouldn't IE principles apply to water too? Shouldn't I trust myself to drink when I am thirsty? Did I ever as a child think that I needed to drink more water than I did? Yesterday I left my big mug of water in a classroom where someone else was teaching, and thus didn't have it with me all day. I got up and got a drink at the drinking fountain when I was thirsty, and felt fine. And I didn't have to get up in the middle of the night to pee. And that got me started thinking about it, and it seems strange to say to trust your body when it comes to food and exercise, but not water. And now, having written this, I realize that I'm thirsty now, so I'm going to get up and walk down the hall to the drinking fountain, and I kind of wish I had my big mug here, because I do like water a lot. When I get migraines I get wickedly thirsty, and do drink and drink and drink, but it's my body telling me that, not my head. So? Tilley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 4, 2011 Report Share Posted November 4, 2011 Tilley,I say YES. i think it's important to keep water handy, and to make sure you are not eating when really you are thirsty, but yes, i think you can listen to your body. and yes, i doubt the wisdom of those that say we are dehydrated all the time. i think our bodies are actually pretty darn smart if we are smart enough to listen to them! best,abby Okay folks, here's a question for you: if IE is all about listening to your body in regards to eating, what about water? All the " experts " say that we don't drink enough water, that most Americans are running around dehydrated, and we should drink X number of glasses of water per day. I know so many people who carry around enormous containers of water and force themselves to drink drink drink. (And then they're up all night peeing). Shouldn't IE principles apply to water too? Shouldn't I trust myself to drink when I am thirsty? Did I ever as a child think that I needed to drink more water than I did? Yesterday I left my big mug of water in a classroom where someone else was teaching, and thus didn't have it with me all day. I got up and got a drink at the drinking fountain when I was thirsty, and felt fine. And I didn't have to get up in the middle of the night to pee. And that got me started thinking about it, and it seems strange to say to trust your body when it comes to food and exercise, but not water. And now, having written this, I realize that I'm thirsty now, so I'm going to get up and walk down the hall to the drinking fountain, and I kind of wish I had my big mug here, because I do like water a lot. When I get migraines I get wickedly thirsty, and do drink and drink and drink, but it's my body telling me that, not my head. So? Tilley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 4, 2011 Report Share Posted November 4, 2011 Tilley,I say YES. i think it's important to keep water handy, and to make sure you are not eating when really you are thirsty, but yes, i think you can listen to your body. and yes, i doubt the wisdom of those that say we are dehydrated all the time. i think our bodies are actually pretty darn smart if we are smart enough to listen to them! best,abby Okay folks, here's a question for you: if IE is all about listening to your body in regards to eating, what about water? All the " experts " say that we don't drink enough water, that most Americans are running around dehydrated, and we should drink X number of glasses of water per day. I know so many people who carry around enormous containers of water and force themselves to drink drink drink. (And then they're up all night peeing). Shouldn't IE principles apply to water too? Shouldn't I trust myself to drink when I am thirsty? Did I ever as a child think that I needed to drink more water than I did? Yesterday I left my big mug of water in a classroom where someone else was teaching, and thus didn't have it with me all day. I got up and got a drink at the drinking fountain when I was thirsty, and felt fine. And I didn't have to get up in the middle of the night to pee. And that got me started thinking about it, and it seems strange to say to trust your body when it comes to food and exercise, but not water. And now, having written this, I realize that I'm thirsty now, so I'm going to get up and walk down the hall to the drinking fountain, and I kind of wish I had my big mug here, because I do like water a lot. When I get migraines I get wickedly thirsty, and do drink and drink and drink, but it's my body telling me that, not my head. So? Tilley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 4, 2011 Report Share Posted November 4, 2011 I think you're absolutely right. I don't think it's all that great to be forcing ourselves to drink X amount of water a day, even if we are not thirsty. It's important to be aware of our thirst. Sometimes it's possible to mistake thirst for hunger, but I believe IE principles can comfortably be applied to water consumption. There was a belief going around a few years ago that "by the time you are thirsty, you are already dehydrated." This didn't make any sense to me. It was like saying, "by the time you are hungry, you are already starving or malnourished," What good is our thirst signal if it only works after it's too late? I also remember stern admonishments that it must be only pure WATER, tea did not count. Well, why the heck not? I drink several cups of green tea a day. Am I not getting any real water with that? As far as I know, recent thinking has debunked some of that. Any kind of liquid counts (OK, maybe not alcohol since it's dehydrating) and it's OK to drink what your body feels it needs. An extreme example of this was when I was going through chemo. Everyone I know kept saying, "oh you have to drink tons and tons of water to flush out the bad chemicals. You'll get terribly sick if you don't." Well, I found that idea really off-putting. I wasn't going to be guzzling gallons of water on top of everything else I was going through. I didn't and I got through it just fine. Anywho, a long way to say, I don't think we need to freak out about water. LOL.MimiSubject: What about water?To: IntuitiveEating_Support Date: Friday, November 4, 2011, 9:30 AM Okay folks, here's a question for you: if IE is all about listening to your body in regards to eating, what about water? All the "experts" say that we don't drink enough water, that most Americans are running around dehydrated, and we should drink X number of glasses of water per day. I know so many people who carry around enormous containers of water and force themselves to drink drink drink. (And then they're up all night peeing). Shouldn't IE principles apply to water too? Shouldn't I trust myself to drink when I am thirsty? Did I ever as a child think that I needed to drink more water than I did? Yesterday I left my big mug of water in a classroom where someone else was teaching, and thus didn't have it with me all day. I got up and got a drink at the drinking fountain when I was thirsty, and felt fine. And I didn't have to get up in the middle of the night to pee. And that got me started thinking about it, and it seems strange to say to trust your body when it comes to food and exercise, but not water. And now, having written this, I realize that I'm thirsty now, so I'm going to get up and walk down the hall to the drinking fountain, and I kind of wish I had my big mug here, because I do like water a lot. When I get migraines I get wickedly thirsty, and do drink and drink and drink, but it's my body telling me that, not my head. So? Tilley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 4, 2011 Report Share Posted November 4, 2011 I think you're absolutely right. I don't think it's all that great to be forcing ourselves to drink X amount of water a day, even if we are not thirsty. It's important to be aware of our thirst. Sometimes it's possible to mistake thirst for hunger, but I believe IE principles can comfortably be applied to water consumption. There was a belief going around a few years ago that "by the time you are thirsty, you are already dehydrated." This didn't make any sense to me. It was like saying, "by the time you are hungry, you are already starving or malnourished," What good is our thirst signal if it only works after it's too late? I also remember stern admonishments that it must be only pure WATER, tea did not count. Well, why the heck not? I drink several cups of green tea a day. Am I not getting any real water with that? As far as I know, recent thinking has debunked some of that. Any kind of liquid counts (OK, maybe not alcohol since it's dehydrating) and it's OK to drink what your body feels it needs. An extreme example of this was when I was going through chemo. Everyone I know kept saying, "oh you have to drink tons and tons of water to flush out the bad chemicals. You'll get terribly sick if you don't." Well, I found that idea really off-putting. I wasn't going to be guzzling gallons of water on top of everything else I was going through. I didn't and I got through it just fine. Anywho, a long way to say, I don't think we need to freak out about water. LOL.MimiSubject: What about water?To: IntuitiveEating_Support Date: Friday, November 4, 2011, 9:30 AM Okay folks, here's a question for you: if IE is all about listening to your body in regards to eating, what about water? All the "experts" say that we don't drink enough water, that most Americans are running around dehydrated, and we should drink X number of glasses of water per day. I know so many people who carry around enormous containers of water and force themselves to drink drink drink. (And then they're up all night peeing). Shouldn't IE principles apply to water too? Shouldn't I trust myself to drink when I am thirsty? Did I ever as a child think that I needed to drink more water than I did? Yesterday I left my big mug of water in a classroom where someone else was teaching, and thus didn't have it with me all day. I got up and got a drink at the drinking fountain when I was thirsty, and felt fine. And I didn't have to get up in the middle of the night to pee. And that got me started thinking about it, and it seems strange to say to trust your body when it comes to food and exercise, but not water. And now, having written this, I realize that I'm thirsty now, so I'm going to get up and walk down the hall to the drinking fountain, and I kind of wish I had my big mug here, because I do like water a lot. When I get migraines I get wickedly thirsty, and do drink and drink and drink, but it's my body telling me that, not my head. So? Tilley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 4, 2011 Report Share Posted November 4, 2011 I think you're absolutely right. I don't think it's all that great to be forcing ourselves to drink X amount of water a day, even if we are not thirsty. It's important to be aware of our thirst. Sometimes it's possible to mistake thirst for hunger, but I believe IE principles can comfortably be applied to water consumption. There was a belief going around a few years ago that "by the time you are thirsty, you are already dehydrated." This didn't make any sense to me. It was like saying, "by the time you are hungry, you are already starving or malnourished," What good is our thirst signal if it only works after it's too late? I also remember stern admonishments that it must be only pure WATER, tea did not count. Well, why the heck not? I drink several cups of green tea a day. Am I not getting any real water with that? As far as I know, recent thinking has debunked some of that. Any kind of liquid counts (OK, maybe not alcohol since it's dehydrating) and it's OK to drink what your body feels it needs. An extreme example of this was when I was going through chemo. Everyone I know kept saying, "oh you have to drink tons and tons of water to flush out the bad chemicals. You'll get terribly sick if you don't." Well, I found that idea really off-putting. I wasn't going to be guzzling gallons of water on top of everything else I was going through. I didn't and I got through it just fine. Anywho, a long way to say, I don't think we need to freak out about water. LOL.MimiSubject: What about water?To: IntuitiveEating_Support Date: Friday, November 4, 2011, 9:30 AM Okay folks, here's a question for you: if IE is all about listening to your body in regards to eating, what about water? All the "experts" say that we don't drink enough water, that most Americans are running around dehydrated, and we should drink X number of glasses of water per day. I know so many people who carry around enormous containers of water and force themselves to drink drink drink. (And then they're up all night peeing). Shouldn't IE principles apply to water too? Shouldn't I trust myself to drink when I am thirsty? Did I ever as a child think that I needed to drink more water than I did? Yesterday I left my big mug of water in a classroom where someone else was teaching, and thus didn't have it with me all day. I got up and got a drink at the drinking fountain when I was thirsty, and felt fine. And I didn't have to get up in the middle of the night to pee. And that got me started thinking about it, and it seems strange to say to trust your body when it comes to food and exercise, but not water. And now, having written this, I realize that I'm thirsty now, so I'm going to get up and walk down the hall to the drinking fountain, and I kind of wish I had my big mug here, because I do like water a lot. When I get migraines I get wickedly thirsty, and do drink and drink and drink, but it's my body telling me that, not my head. So? Tilley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 4, 2011 Report Share Posted November 4, 2011 > > I think you're absolutely right. I don't think it's all that great to be forcing ourselves to drink X amount of water a day, even if we are not thirsty. Some years back I thought I would be smart and 'hydrate' my body before I had a (minor) surgical procedure (wisdom teeth removed). I had learned that one of the usual backlashes of medications used during surgery was dehydration sooooo I thought I'd drink 'extra' water before and avoid that. After several glasses of water my kidneys expressed their displeasure by passing some blood along with all the excessive water. I haven't worried about 'hydrating' ever since. > Sometimes it's possible to mistake thirst for hunger, but I believe IE principles can comfortably be applied to water consumption. I found that to be true for me and did try to make water a bit more available than I tended to drink it by habit (generally only with meals). I ended up discovering that a bit more water during my day left me less tired and sleepy feeling which I had before then associated with food (carb?) misjudgements. Katcha IEing since March 2007 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 4, 2011 Report Share Posted November 4, 2011 > > I think you're absolutely right. I don't think it's all that great to be forcing ourselves to drink X amount of water a day, even if we are not thirsty. Some years back I thought I would be smart and 'hydrate' my body before I had a (minor) surgical procedure (wisdom teeth removed). I had learned that one of the usual backlashes of medications used during surgery was dehydration sooooo I thought I'd drink 'extra' water before and avoid that. After several glasses of water my kidneys expressed their displeasure by passing some blood along with all the excessive water. I haven't worried about 'hydrating' ever since. > Sometimes it's possible to mistake thirst for hunger, but I believe IE principles can comfortably be applied to water consumption. I found that to be true for me and did try to make water a bit more available than I tended to drink it by habit (generally only with meals). I ended up discovering that a bit more water during my day left me less tired and sleepy feeling which I had before then associated with food (carb?) misjudgements. Katcha IEing since March 2007 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 4, 2011 Report Share Posted November 4, 2011 > > I think you're absolutely right. I don't think it's all that great to be forcing ourselves to drink X amount of water a day, even if we are not thirsty. Some years back I thought I would be smart and 'hydrate' my body before I had a (minor) surgical procedure (wisdom teeth removed). I had learned that one of the usual backlashes of medications used during surgery was dehydration sooooo I thought I'd drink 'extra' water before and avoid that. After several glasses of water my kidneys expressed their displeasure by passing some blood along with all the excessive water. I haven't worried about 'hydrating' ever since. > Sometimes it's possible to mistake thirst for hunger, but I believe IE principles can comfortably be applied to water consumption. I found that to be true for me and did try to make water a bit more available than I tended to drink it by habit (generally only with meals). I ended up discovering that a bit more water during my day left me less tired and sleepy feeling which I had before then associated with food (carb?) misjudgements. Katcha IEing since March 2007 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 4, 2011 Report Share Posted November 4, 2011 I completely forgot about the energy part, because that has been my experience too. Often when I'm really dragging, it's dehydration and not low blood sugar. It usually goes along with something else though, and whether I want to tease out the differences, or just go with what seems to be the thing to do at the time, I don't know yet..... > > > > I think you're absolutely right. I don't think it's all that great to be forcing ourselves to drink X amount of water a day, even if we are not thirsty. > > Some years back I thought I would be smart and 'hydrate' my body before I had a (minor) surgical procedure (wisdom teeth removed). I had learned that one of the usual backlashes of medications used during surgery was dehydration sooooo I thought I'd drink 'extra' water before and avoid that. After several glasses of water my kidneys expressed their displeasure by passing some blood along with all the excessive water. I haven't worried about 'hydrating' ever since. > > > > Sometimes it's possible to mistake thirst for hunger, but I believe IE principles can comfortably be applied to water consumption. > > I found that to be true for me and did try to make water a bit more available than I tended to drink it by habit (generally only with meals). I ended up discovering that a bit more water during my day left me less tired and sleepy feeling which I had before then associated with food (carb?) misjudgements. > > Katcha > IEing since March 2007 > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 4, 2011 Report Share Posted November 4, 2011 I completely forgot about the energy part, because that has been my experience too. Often when I'm really dragging, it's dehydration and not low blood sugar. It usually goes along with something else though, and whether I want to tease out the differences, or just go with what seems to be the thing to do at the time, I don't know yet..... > > > > I think you're absolutely right. I don't think it's all that great to be forcing ourselves to drink X amount of water a day, even if we are not thirsty. > > Some years back I thought I would be smart and 'hydrate' my body before I had a (minor) surgical procedure (wisdom teeth removed). I had learned that one of the usual backlashes of medications used during surgery was dehydration sooooo I thought I'd drink 'extra' water before and avoid that. After several glasses of water my kidneys expressed their displeasure by passing some blood along with all the excessive water. I haven't worried about 'hydrating' ever since. > > > > Sometimes it's possible to mistake thirst for hunger, but I believe IE principles can comfortably be applied to water consumption. > > I found that to be true for me and did try to make water a bit more available than I tended to drink it by habit (generally only with meals). I ended up discovering that a bit more water during my day left me less tired and sleepy feeling which I had before then associated with food (carb?) misjudgements. > > Katcha > IEing since March 2007 > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 4, 2011 Report Share Posted November 4, 2011 I completely forgot about the energy part, because that has been my experience too. Often when I'm really dragging, it's dehydration and not low blood sugar. It usually goes along with something else though, and whether I want to tease out the differences, or just go with what seems to be the thing to do at the time, I don't know yet..... > > > > I think you're absolutely right. I don't think it's all that great to be forcing ourselves to drink X amount of water a day, even if we are not thirsty. > > Some years back I thought I would be smart and 'hydrate' my body before I had a (minor) surgical procedure (wisdom teeth removed). I had learned that one of the usual backlashes of medications used during surgery was dehydration sooooo I thought I'd drink 'extra' water before and avoid that. After several glasses of water my kidneys expressed their displeasure by passing some blood along with all the excessive water. I haven't worried about 'hydrating' ever since. > > > > Sometimes it's possible to mistake thirst for hunger, but I believe IE principles can comfortably be applied to water consumption. > > I found that to be true for me and did try to make water a bit more available than I tended to drink it by habit (generally only with meals). I ended up discovering that a bit more water during my day left me less tired and sleepy feeling which I had before then associated with food (carb?) misjudgements. > > Katcha > IEing since March 2007 > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 5, 2011 Report Share Posted November 5, 2011 Yes to the energy (quasi boost) reaction to water. One of the things that helped me to appreciate sipping water through out the day was that the first team to reach the summit of Mt. Everest did so because they drank water as they climbed! I know that when we do heavy work - especially out doors - if I sip at water as I go I have more energy and tire less quickly. Katcha IEing since March 2007 > > I completely forgot about the energy part, because that has been my experience too. Often when I'm really dragging, it's dehydration and not low blood sugar. It usually goes along with something else though, and whether I want to tease out the differences, or just go with what seems to be the thing to do at the time, I don't know yet..... > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 5, 2011 Report Share Posted November 5, 2011 Yes to the energy (quasi boost) reaction to water. One of the things that helped me to appreciate sipping water through out the day was that the first team to reach the summit of Mt. Everest did so because they drank water as they climbed! I know that when we do heavy work - especially out doors - if I sip at water as I go I have more energy and tire less quickly. Katcha IEing since March 2007 > > I completely forgot about the energy part, because that has been my experience too. Often when I'm really dragging, it's dehydration and not low blood sugar. It usually goes along with something else though, and whether I want to tease out the differences, or just go with what seems to be the thing to do at the time, I don't know yet..... > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 6, 2011 Report Share Posted November 6, 2011 So we've talked about water and IE...what about alcohol?I met with some friends recently who talked about having had too much to drink on multiple occasions in the past as a coping mechanism. They had recognized the need to explore various social options to get them out of the house so they wouldn't drink so much.It occurred to me...I am fairly intuitive about alcohol intake when I'm by myself, but not about food. I cannot drink to excess when I'm by myself. I've actually planned to drink a lot when I was by myself...either for just sheer enjoyment of the particular beverage or as a coping mechanism for something going on in my life. I've never been able to do it. At some point, my body just says STOP, and I always end up with significantly more still in the bottle than I had originally intended.. I end up drinking more in social situations, but I just can't do it when I'm by myself.However, I will overeat whether I'm by myself or with others.Now, why does my body stop me with alcohol and not with food? I'm glad I don't have problems with alcohol, but I do wish I was as intuitive about food!Sara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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