Guest guest Posted December 18, 2011 Report Share Posted December 18, 2011 When I ws biking across the country the summer I was 21, I calculated that I was consuming between 5,000 and 7,000 calories/day, and it was probably similar the summer I was a white-water river raft guide. Stopping eating? Well, that's a hard one. Right now what's really helping is knowing that I can eat that thing again when I am hungry again. I love bread too, and am still overeating it, meaning that when I have it, I keep eating way past when I am no longer hungry. But other things, not so much. Today I had gingerbread and clementines and soy milk for lunch, and I cut myself a second piece of gingerbread, but I guess enough time passed between deciding that I was going to have a second piece and actually getting it, that I realized I didn't really need to eat it. So it's wrapped up on the stove, along with a few sections of clementines and the second glass of soy milk I poured. But bread, forget it..... But what I discovered a couple weeks ago was that when I started eating faster, as if I was trying to get it all done before I HAD to stop eating, because we are, after all, supposed to stop when we are full, aren't we, that I was really done. Someone else wrote about a " sigh " , and I am sure that everyone else has something else. The trick is to be aware of it, and I think in order to do that, you have to slow down. The IE book recommends taking little time-outs to gauge where you're at, which seems like a good idea to me. Though with bread, I don't usually WANT to stop. For me and bread, though, it's the salt that's the problem. Tilley > > Hello everybody. > As you know, I'm currently in the peace-with-food phase, so I'm eating a lot of foods I had previously forbidden, and I - obviously - find myself eating huge quantities of them. It's not bingeing, because I don't eat until painfully sick, but I do eat quantities that would scare a " normal " person. > In the last few days I've been eating tons of bread (always loved it, but I hadn't been eating it for years - unless its calories were counted), and today, trying to get an objective idea about how much I was actually eating, I roughly counted the calories of the foods I ate, late in the evening. I keep a " mixed " diary, in which I record feelings as well as meals and hunger/satiety cues. > The total was (about) 5-6000. > I know it's a huge number, but my most terrible binges got as high as 15.000 calories. And in about A HOUR! These calories were actually spread in a day (actually two big meals - breakfast and lunch - with some little snacks), so it is quite a progress for me. > > I'll get to the point: I am not stuffed, painful or sick, but I am quite full. Many times, while eating, I thought, " Maybe I should stop here " , but then there was always something I wanted to taste, and I tasted it, and kept eating. > > I've made peace with food, I'm honoring my hunger and I'm experimenting with it, seeing how long meals keep me sated and things like that, but I seem to have problems with fullness. > So, my question is, how do you stop eating? What are your cues? How long did it take for you to learn them? > > Also, any advice about anything I've said would be greatly appreciated. > > Love your being there, > . > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 19, 2011 Report Share Posted December 19, 2011 , that is definitely progress! And way to go for not guilt-tripping yourself. That's the most loving thing you can do for yourself in this journey. I find that a few things help me when feeling my fullness: -Start eating when I'm hungry: This doesn't always happen, but it's much easier to feel satiety if I'm hungry when I begin eating. Since food is what I need, food can satisfy me. However, if I'm eating emotionally or for some reason other than hunger, it's hard tell that I'm full until I'm FULL, until it's a very obvious and often uncomfortable sensation. -Choosing foods that satisfy me-If I were hungry, it would take a whole lot of bread to satisfy me, especially white bread. I find that a combination of high-quality protein, fat, and complex carbs with something fresh (think a turkey and avocado sandwich on whole wheat with some lettuce and tomato) tend to satisfy me the most. If I eat straight carbs, or just fat and protein like eggs, I don't feel satisfied. -Eating when I feel " balanced " emotionally-I don't like to eat while having a stressful or uncomfortable conversation, because I tend to " cork it " with food, or withdraw from the situation. If I'm worried or stressed about something, I tend to ignore (or miss) my fullness. -Pay attention to how my body feels-For me, prefect satiety doesn't carry much stomach sensation, but I feel happy, content, and " grounded " . For me, hunger feels like floating around and often comes with brain fog and headaches. When I'm satisfied, my mind is clear and my body feels calm. Hope this helps! -McKella > > Hello everybody. > As you know, I'm currently in the peace-with-food phase, so I'm eating a lot of foods I had previously forbidden, and I - obviously - find myself eating huge quantities of them. It's not bingeing, because I don't eat until painfully sick, but I do eat quantities that would scare a " normal " person. > In the last few days I've been eating tons of bread (always loved it, but I hadn't been eating it for years - unless its calories were counted), and today, trying to get an objective idea about how much I was actually eating, I roughly counted the calories of the foods I ate, late in the evening. I keep a " mixed " diary, in which I record feelings as well as meals and hunger/satiety cues. > The total was (about) 5-6000. > I know it's a huge number, but my most terrible binges got as high as 15.000 calories. And in about A HOUR! These calories were actually spread in a day (actually two big meals - breakfast and lunch - with some little snacks), so it is quite a progress for me. > > I'll get to the point: I am not stuffed, painful or sick, but I am quite full. Many times, while eating, I thought, " Maybe I should stop here " , but then there was always something I wanted to taste, and I tasted it, and kept eating. > > I've made peace with food, I'm honoring my hunger and I'm experimenting with it, seeing how long meals keep me sated and things like that, but I seem to have problems with fullness. > So, my question is, how do you stop eating? What are your cues? How long did it take for you to learn them? > > Also, any advice about anything I've said would be greatly appreciated. > > Love your being there, > . > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 19, 2011 Report Share Posted December 19, 2011 , that is definitely progress! And way to go for not guilt-tripping yourself. That's the most loving thing you can do for yourself in this journey. I find that a few things help me when feeling my fullness: -Start eating when I'm hungry: This doesn't always happen, but it's much easier to feel satiety if I'm hungry when I begin eating. Since food is what I need, food can satisfy me. However, if I'm eating emotionally or for some reason other than hunger, it's hard tell that I'm full until I'm FULL, until it's a very obvious and often uncomfortable sensation. -Choosing foods that satisfy me-If I were hungry, it would take a whole lot of bread to satisfy me, especially white bread. I find that a combination of high-quality protein, fat, and complex carbs with something fresh (think a turkey and avocado sandwich on whole wheat with some lettuce and tomato) tend to satisfy me the most. If I eat straight carbs, or just fat and protein like eggs, I don't feel satisfied. -Eating when I feel " balanced " emotionally-I don't like to eat while having a stressful or uncomfortable conversation, because I tend to " cork it " with food, or withdraw from the situation. If I'm worried or stressed about something, I tend to ignore (or miss) my fullness. -Pay attention to how my body feels-For me, prefect satiety doesn't carry much stomach sensation, but I feel happy, content, and " grounded " . For me, hunger feels like floating around and often comes with brain fog and headaches. When I'm satisfied, my mind is clear and my body feels calm. Hope this helps! -McKella > > Hello everybody. > As you know, I'm currently in the peace-with-food phase, so I'm eating a lot of foods I had previously forbidden, and I - obviously - find myself eating huge quantities of them. It's not bingeing, because I don't eat until painfully sick, but I do eat quantities that would scare a " normal " person. > In the last few days I've been eating tons of bread (always loved it, but I hadn't been eating it for years - unless its calories were counted), and today, trying to get an objective idea about how much I was actually eating, I roughly counted the calories of the foods I ate, late in the evening. I keep a " mixed " diary, in which I record feelings as well as meals and hunger/satiety cues. > The total was (about) 5-6000. > I know it's a huge number, but my most terrible binges got as high as 15.000 calories. And in about A HOUR! These calories were actually spread in a day (actually two big meals - breakfast and lunch - with some little snacks), so it is quite a progress for me. > > I'll get to the point: I am not stuffed, painful or sick, but I am quite full. Many times, while eating, I thought, " Maybe I should stop here " , but then there was always something I wanted to taste, and I tasted it, and kept eating. > > I've made peace with food, I'm honoring my hunger and I'm experimenting with it, seeing how long meals keep me sated and things like that, but I seem to have problems with fullness. > So, my question is, how do you stop eating? What are your cues? How long did it take for you to learn them? > > Also, any advice about anything I've said would be greatly appreciated. > > Love your being there, > . > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 19, 2011 Report Share Posted December 19, 2011 , that is definitely progress! And way to go for not guilt-tripping yourself. That's the most loving thing you can do for yourself in this journey. I find that a few things help me when feeling my fullness: -Start eating when I'm hungry: This doesn't always happen, but it's much easier to feel satiety if I'm hungry when I begin eating. Since food is what I need, food can satisfy me. However, if I'm eating emotionally or for some reason other than hunger, it's hard tell that I'm full until I'm FULL, until it's a very obvious and often uncomfortable sensation. -Choosing foods that satisfy me-If I were hungry, it would take a whole lot of bread to satisfy me, especially white bread. I find that a combination of high-quality protein, fat, and complex carbs with something fresh (think a turkey and avocado sandwich on whole wheat with some lettuce and tomato) tend to satisfy me the most. If I eat straight carbs, or just fat and protein like eggs, I don't feel satisfied. -Eating when I feel " balanced " emotionally-I don't like to eat while having a stressful or uncomfortable conversation, because I tend to " cork it " with food, or withdraw from the situation. If I'm worried or stressed about something, I tend to ignore (or miss) my fullness. -Pay attention to how my body feels-For me, prefect satiety doesn't carry much stomach sensation, but I feel happy, content, and " grounded " . For me, hunger feels like floating around and often comes with brain fog and headaches. When I'm satisfied, my mind is clear and my body feels calm. Hope this helps! -McKella > > Hello everybody. > As you know, I'm currently in the peace-with-food phase, so I'm eating a lot of foods I had previously forbidden, and I - obviously - find myself eating huge quantities of them. It's not bingeing, because I don't eat until painfully sick, but I do eat quantities that would scare a " normal " person. > In the last few days I've been eating tons of bread (always loved it, but I hadn't been eating it for years - unless its calories were counted), and today, trying to get an objective idea about how much I was actually eating, I roughly counted the calories of the foods I ate, late in the evening. I keep a " mixed " diary, in which I record feelings as well as meals and hunger/satiety cues. > The total was (about) 5-6000. > I know it's a huge number, but my most terrible binges got as high as 15.000 calories. And in about A HOUR! These calories were actually spread in a day (actually two big meals - breakfast and lunch - with some little snacks), so it is quite a progress for me. > > I'll get to the point: I am not stuffed, painful or sick, but I am quite full. Many times, while eating, I thought, " Maybe I should stop here " , but then there was always something I wanted to taste, and I tasted it, and kept eating. > > I've made peace with food, I'm honoring my hunger and I'm experimenting with it, seeing how long meals keep me sated and things like that, but I seem to have problems with fullness. > So, my question is, how do you stop eating? What are your cues? How long did it take for you to learn them? > > Also, any advice about anything I've said would be greatly appreciated. > > Love your being there, > . > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 19, 2011 Report Share Posted December 19, 2011 That makes sense. That makes a lot of sense.Ellie -Start eating when I'm hungry: This doesn't always happen, but it's much easier to feel satiety if I'm hungry when I begin eating. Since food is what I need, food can satisfy me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 19, 2011 Report Share Posted December 19, 2011 wrote: "So, my question is, how do you stop eating? What are your cues? How long did it take for you to learn them?"Well, for me, it took quite a bit of practice. I listened to my body when I ate to understand where and how I became full. I tried to identify the sensation that would tell me that I was finished eating. I think that signal can vary depending upon the individual, the food, the time of day, etc. Some people report sighing or burping or other physical sensations. For me, it was simply a feeling, like something clicked and I no longer needed food. It's hard to describe, but you will find your own internal signal when you start looking. And by no means is the process linear. You will have ups and downs, forward and backward motion. For instance, I discovered the "clicking" fullness signal a few weeks ago, but this week I've been largely ignoring it. Why? Not sure, but I think I'm just coming to terms with the fact that I have this information now. I will gently return to it when I am ready. In the past, I would have regarded this as utter failure and evidence of my inability to stick to a program. Now that there is no external program to follow, I consider this just part of life and know that I have made good and lasting progress. You will get there, . Mimi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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