Re: What are YOUR fullness signals?

[Guest guest]

When I ws biking across the country the summer I was 21, I calculated that I was

consuming between 5,000 and 7,000 calories/day, and it was probably similar the

summer I was a white-water river raft guide. Stopping eating? Well, that's a

hard one. Right now what's really helping is knowing that I can eat that thing

again when I am hungry again. I love bread too, and am still overeating it,

meaning that when I have it, I keep eating way past when I am no longer hungry.

But other things, not so much. Today I had gingerbread and clementines and soy

milk for lunch, and I cut myself a second piece of gingerbread, but I guess

enough time passed between deciding that I was going to have a second piece and

actually getting it, that I realized I didn't really need to eat it. So it's

wrapped up on the stove, along with a few sections of clementines and the second

glass of soy milk I poured. But bread, forget it.....

But what I discovered a couple weeks ago was that when I started eating faster,

as if I was trying to get it all done before I HAD to stop eating, because we

are, after all, supposed to stop when we are full, aren't we, that I was really

done. Someone else wrote about a " sigh " , and I am sure that everyone else has

something else. The trick is to be aware of it, and I think in order to do

that, you have to slow down. The IE book recommends taking little time-outs to

gauge where you're at, which seems like a good idea to me. Though with bread, I

don't usually WANT to stop. For me and bread, though, it's the salt that's the

problem.

Tilley

>

> Hello everybody.

> As you know, I'm currently in the peace-with-food phase, so I'm eating a lot

of foods I had previously forbidden, and I - obviously - find myself eating huge

quantities of them. It's not bingeing, because I don't eat until painfully sick,

but I do eat quantities that would scare a " normal " person.

> In the last few days I've been eating tons of bread (always loved it, but I

hadn't been eating it for years - unless its calories were counted), and today,

trying to get an objective idea about how much I was actually eating, I roughly

counted the calories of the foods I ate, late in the evening. I keep a " mixed "

diary, in which I record feelings as well as meals and hunger/satiety cues.

> The total was (about) 5-6000.

> I know it's a huge number, but my most terrible binges got as high as 15.000

calories. And in about A HOUR! These calories were actually spread in a day

(actually two big meals - breakfast and lunch - with some little snacks), so it

is quite a progress for me.

>

> I'll get to the point: I am not stuffed, painful or sick, but I am quite full.

Many times, while eating, I thought, " Maybe I should stop here " , but then there

was always something I wanted to taste, and I tasted it, and kept eating.

>

> I've made peace with food, I'm honoring my hunger and I'm experimenting with

it, seeing how long meals keep me sated and things like that, but I seem to have

problems with fullness.

> So, my question is, how do you stop eating? What are your cues? How long did

it take for you to learn them?

>

> Also, any advice about anything I've said would be greatly appreciated.

>

> Love your being there,

> .

>

[Guest guest]

That makes sense. That makes a lot of sense.Ellie

-Start eating when I'm hungry: This doesn't always happen, but it's much easier to feel satiety if I'm hungry when I begin eating. Since food is what I need, food can satisfy me.

[Guest guest]

You wrote... " For instance, I discovered the 'clicking' fullness signal a few

weeks ago, but this week I've been largely ignoring it. Why? Not sure, but I

think I'm just coming to terms with the fact that I have this information now. I

will gently return to it when I am ready. In the past, I would have regarded

this as utter failure and evidence of my inability to stick to a program. Now

that there is no external program to follow, I consider this just part of life

and know that I have made good and lasting progress. You will get there... "

Thank you for this...

I'm pretty good at noticing, overall, but not very good at acting on what I

notice. I do have some feelings of failure around my inability to act on what I

notice, yet over time I'm becoming more sensitive to the fear that fuels my

inability to act on my observations.

This post has given me a chance to step back and let myself be more aware of the

emotional wounding that fuels my rebellion - and to be gentle with my lack of

better " progress " with my food/eating...

I rarely confront how painful the diet failure cycle has been. The impact of

ignoring my body's God-given appetite by adhering to diet rules is pretty

shocking. For me it's requiring a bit of time to take in the extent of psychic

trauma dieting has resulted in. It (the trauma) will not all go away over night

just because I've changed my game plan, apparently.

This post adds to my stockpile of hope, though, for the time when I can finally

say, " it's all right to stop now " and do it without repercussions.

For now, however, the diet rebel/diet police are still marching around the

perimiter of my relationship to food and the battle goes on, albeit with less

and less open warefare every day.

Thanks.

Sandarah

>  

> " So, my question is, how do you stop eating? What are your cues? How long did

it take for you to learn them? "

>

> Well, for me, it took quite a bit of practice. I listened to my body when I

ate to understand where and how I became full. I tried to identify the sensation

that would tell me that I was finished eating. I think that signal can vary

depending upon the individual, the food, the time of day, etc. Some people

report sighing or burping or other physical sensations. For me, it was simply a

feeling, like something clicked and I no longer needed food. It's hard to

describe, but you will find your own internal signal when you start looking. And

by no means is the process linear. You will have ups and downs, forward and

backward motion. For instance, I discovered the " clicking " fullness signal a few

weeks ago, but this week I've been largely ignoring it. Why? Not sure, but I

think I'm just coming to terms with the fact that I have this information now. I

will gently return to it when I am ready. In the past, I would have regarded

this as utter failure and

> evidence of my inability to stick to a program. Now that there is no external

program to follow, I consider this just part of life and know that I have made

good and lasting progress. You will get there, .

>  

> Mimi

>

[Guest guest]

You wrote... " For instance, I discovered the 'clicking' fullness signal a few

weeks ago, but this week I've been largely ignoring it. Why? Not sure, but I

think I'm just coming to terms with the fact that I have this information now. I

will gently return to it when I am ready. In the past, I would have regarded

this as utter failure and evidence of my inability to stick to a program. Now

that there is no external program to follow, I consider this just part of life

and know that I have made good and lasting progress. You will get there... "

Thank you for this...

I'm pretty good at noticing, overall, but not very good at acting on what I

notice. I do have some feelings of failure around my inability to act on what I

notice, yet over time I'm becoming more sensitive to the fear that fuels my

inability to act on my observations.

This post has given me a chance to step back and let myself be more aware of the

emotional wounding that fuels my rebellion - and to be gentle with my lack of

better " progress " with my food/eating...

I rarely confront how painful the diet failure cycle has been. The impact of

ignoring my body's God-given appetite by adhering to diet rules is pretty

shocking. For me it's requiring a bit of time to take in the extent of psychic

trauma dieting has resulted in. It (the trauma) will not all go away over night

just because I've changed my game plan, apparently.

This post adds to my stockpile of hope, though, for the time when I can finally

say, " it's all right to stop now " and do it without repercussions.

For now, however, the diet rebel/diet police are still marching around the

perimiter of my relationship to food and the battle goes on, albeit with less

and less open warefare every day.

Thanks.

Sandarah

>  

> " So, my question is, how do you stop eating? What are your cues? How long did

it take for you to learn them? "

>

> Well, for me, it took quite a bit of practice. I listened to my body when I

ate to understand where and how I became full. I tried to identify the sensation

that would tell me that I was finished eating. I think that signal can vary

depending upon the individual, the food, the time of day, etc. Some people

report sighing or burping or other physical sensations. For me, it was simply a

feeling, like something clicked and I no longer needed food. It's hard to

describe, but you will find your own internal signal when you start looking. And

by no means is the process linear. You will have ups and downs, forward and

backward motion. For instance, I discovered the " clicking " fullness signal a few

weeks ago, but this week I've been largely ignoring it. Why? Not sure, but I

think I'm just coming to terms with the fact that I have this information now. I

will gently return to it when I am ready. In the past, I would have regarded

this as utter failure and

> evidence of my inability to stick to a program. Now that there is no external

program to follow, I consider this just part of life and know that I have made

good and lasting progress. You will get there, .

>  

> Mimi

>

[Guest guest]

You wrote... " For instance, I discovered the 'clicking' fullness signal a few

weeks ago, but this week I've been largely ignoring it. Why? Not sure, but I

think I'm just coming to terms with the fact that I have this information now. I

will gently return to it when I am ready. In the past, I would have regarded

this as utter failure and evidence of my inability to stick to a program. Now

that there is no external program to follow, I consider this just part of life

and know that I have made good and lasting progress. You will get there... "

Thank you for this...

I'm pretty good at noticing, overall, but not very good at acting on what I

notice. I do have some feelings of failure around my inability to act on what I

notice, yet over time I'm becoming more sensitive to the fear that fuels my

inability to act on my observations.

This post has given me a chance to step back and let myself be more aware of the

emotional wounding that fuels my rebellion - and to be gentle with my lack of

better " progress " with my food/eating...

I rarely confront how painful the diet failure cycle has been. The impact of

ignoring my body's God-given appetite by adhering to diet rules is pretty

shocking. For me it's requiring a bit of time to take in the extent of psychic

trauma dieting has resulted in. It (the trauma) will not all go away over night

just because I've changed my game plan, apparently.

This post adds to my stockpile of hope, though, for the time when I can finally

say, " it's all right to stop now " and do it without repercussions.

For now, however, the diet rebel/diet police are still marching around the

perimiter of my relationship to food and the battle goes on, albeit with less

and less open warefare every day.

Thanks.

Sandarah

>  

> " So, my question is, how do you stop eating? What are your cues? How long did

it take for you to learn them? "

>

> Well, for me, it took quite a bit of practice. I listened to my body when I

ate to understand where and how I became full. I tried to identify the sensation

that would tell me that I was finished eating. I think that signal can vary

depending upon the individual, the food, the time of day, etc. Some people

report sighing or burping or other physical sensations. For me, it was simply a

feeling, like something clicked and I no longer needed food. It's hard to

describe, but you will find your own internal signal when you start looking. And

by no means is the process linear. You will have ups and downs, forward and

backward motion. For instance, I discovered the " clicking " fullness signal a few

weeks ago, but this week I've been largely ignoring it. Why? Not sure, but I

think I'm just coming to terms with the fact that I have this information now. I

will gently return to it when I am ready. In the past, I would have regarded

this as utter failure and

> evidence of my inability to stick to a program. Now that there is no external

program to follow, I consider this just part of life and know that I have made

good and lasting progress. You will get there, .

>  

> Mimi

>