Guest guest Posted January 17, 2012 Report Share Posted January 17, 2012 That feeling of being so angry that you want to rip something up and yell is so familiar that reading the words even feel painful for me. I've been doing this for a year. The most frustrating thing for me to learn was the length of time this process takes, that you focus on each small step you make in the right direction. I've learned that binging is a biological response to restricting. Geneen Roth says something like for every diet, there's an equal and opposite binge. When I heard several different people who've conquered eating issues saying this, I stopped hating myself for it. It's not my fault, and it's not yours, either. Your body has boomeranged from one extreme to the other, and it takes time to balance itself between the two. As others have said, there is also the issue of eating for emotional reasons. You were not hungry for what you were eating, but your were hungry for something (other than food). My greatest growth has occured when I've done what you describe, and then sat down and wrote out what it was I was really needing, which wasn't all that food, and then problem-solved to figure out how to give that to myself. So look at your binge as an opportunity to learn and understand what's going on within you. It's about loving yourself enough to take care of yourself with the same intensity you'd take care of your newborn child. Until I began to do that, I had no idea how horribly I'd been treating myself. It's amazing how good you feel when you begin to honor yourself. Geneen Roth has a YouTube video about just that. Give it a look. Because this is a disease of isolation, it also helps me immensely to post some of my successes/failures and to read those of others, so please post away. Sara > > hey everyone i dont know if anyone else posts their personal failures (or successes) but i have no one else to talk about this to( i cant tell my husband Im on a non-diet, he will be apalled) anyways last night i ate an entire box of peanut butter wafers covered in white chocolate. and i was NOT hungry. i just cant get over it. im so angry i feel like i want to rip soemthing up and yell. im going to the gym now with this full stomach like a rock. arrrggg > feel like a failure and have shall we say very negative feelings towards self right now > why would i binge when i am allowed to eat anything anyway????????? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2012 Report Share Posted January 17, 2012 That feeling of being so angry that you want to rip something up and yell is so familiar that reading the words even feel painful for me. I've been doing this for a year. The most frustrating thing for me to learn was the length of time this process takes, that you focus on each small step you make in the right direction. I've learned that binging is a biological response to restricting. Geneen Roth says something like for every diet, there's an equal and opposite binge. When I heard several different people who've conquered eating issues saying this, I stopped hating myself for it. It's not my fault, and it's not yours, either. Your body has boomeranged from one extreme to the other, and it takes time to balance itself between the two. As others have said, there is also the issue of eating for emotional reasons. You were not hungry for what you were eating, but your were hungry for something (other than food). My greatest growth has occured when I've done what you describe, and then sat down and wrote out what it was I was really needing, which wasn't all that food, and then problem-solved to figure out how to give that to myself. So look at your binge as an opportunity to learn and understand what's going on within you. It's about loving yourself enough to take care of yourself with the same intensity you'd take care of your newborn child. Until I began to do that, I had no idea how horribly I'd been treating myself. It's amazing how good you feel when you begin to honor yourself. Geneen Roth has a YouTube video about just that. Give it a look. Because this is a disease of isolation, it also helps me immensely to post some of my successes/failures and to read those of others, so please post away. Sara > > hey everyone i dont know if anyone else posts their personal failures (or successes) but i have no one else to talk about this to( i cant tell my husband Im on a non-diet, he will be apalled) anyways last night i ate an entire box of peanut butter wafers covered in white chocolate. and i was NOT hungry. i just cant get over it. im so angry i feel like i want to rip soemthing up and yell. im going to the gym now with this full stomach like a rock. arrrggg > feel like a failure and have shall we say very negative feelings towards self right now > why would i binge when i am allowed to eat anything anyway????????? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2012 Report Share Posted January 17, 2012 That feeling of being so angry that you want to rip something up and yell is so familiar that reading the words even feel painful for me. I've been doing this for a year. The most frustrating thing for me to learn was the length of time this process takes, that you focus on each small step you make in the right direction. I've learned that binging is a biological response to restricting. Geneen Roth says something like for every diet, there's an equal and opposite binge. When I heard several different people who've conquered eating issues saying this, I stopped hating myself for it. It's not my fault, and it's not yours, either. Your body has boomeranged from one extreme to the other, and it takes time to balance itself between the two. As others have said, there is also the issue of eating for emotional reasons. You were not hungry for what you were eating, but your were hungry for something (other than food). My greatest growth has occured when I've done what you describe, and then sat down and wrote out what it was I was really needing, which wasn't all that food, and then problem-solved to figure out how to give that to myself. So look at your binge as an opportunity to learn and understand what's going on within you. It's about loving yourself enough to take care of yourself with the same intensity you'd take care of your newborn child. Until I began to do that, I had no idea how horribly I'd been treating myself. It's amazing how good you feel when you begin to honor yourself. Geneen Roth has a YouTube video about just that. Give it a look. Because this is a disease of isolation, it also helps me immensely to post some of my successes/failures and to read those of others, so please post away. Sara > > hey everyone i dont know if anyone else posts their personal failures (or successes) but i have no one else to talk about this to( i cant tell my husband Im on a non-diet, he will be apalled) anyways last night i ate an entire box of peanut butter wafers covered in white chocolate. and i was NOT hungry. i just cant get over it. im so angry i feel like i want to rip soemthing up and yell. im going to the gym now with this full stomach like a rock. arrrggg > feel like a failure and have shall we say very negative feelings towards self right now > why would i binge when i am allowed to eat anything anyway????????? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2012 Report Share Posted January 17, 2012 To me, this sounds like you were simply extremely hungry. My nutritionist told me that if a person gets to this level of hunger, it's physically impossible not to overeat. > > > > hey everyone i dont know if anyone else posts their personal failures (or successes) but i have no one else to talk about this to( i cant tell my husband Im on a non-diet, he will be apalled) anyways last night i ate an entire box of peanut butter wafers covered in white chocolate. and i was NOT hungry. i just cant get over it. im so angry i feel like i want to rip soemthing up and yell. im going to the gym now with this full stomach like a rock. arrrggg > > feel like a failure and have shall we say very negative feelings towards self right now > > why would i binge when i am allowed to eat anything anyway????????? > > > A similar thing happened to me yesterday but I know why. I ran out the door in the morning and only took a banana and water. I didn't eat lunch until after noon and then only soup and salad which I know was only about 300 calories. When I got home I just could not get full. So I ate and ate. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2012 Report Share Posted January 17, 2012 To me, this sounds like you were simply extremely hungry. My nutritionist told me that if a person gets to this level of hunger, it's physically impossible not to overeat. > > > > hey everyone i dont know if anyone else posts their personal failures (or successes) but i have no one else to talk about this to( i cant tell my husband Im on a non-diet, he will be apalled) anyways last night i ate an entire box of peanut butter wafers covered in white chocolate. and i was NOT hungry. i just cant get over it. im so angry i feel like i want to rip soemthing up and yell. im going to the gym now with this full stomach like a rock. arrrggg > > feel like a failure and have shall we say very negative feelings towards self right now > > why would i binge when i am allowed to eat anything anyway????????? > > > A similar thing happened to me yesterday but I know why. I ran out the door in the morning and only took a banana and water. I didn't eat lunch until after noon and then only soup and salad which I know was only about 300 calories. When I got home I just could not get full. So I ate and ate. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2012 Report Share Posted January 17, 2012 To me, this sounds like you were simply extremely hungry. My nutritionist told me that if a person gets to this level of hunger, it's physically impossible not to overeat. > > > > hey everyone i dont know if anyone else posts their personal failures (or successes) but i have no one else to talk about this to( i cant tell my husband Im on a non-diet, he will be apalled) anyways last night i ate an entire box of peanut butter wafers covered in white chocolate. and i was NOT hungry. i just cant get over it. im so angry i feel like i want to rip soemthing up and yell. im going to the gym now with this full stomach like a rock. arrrggg > > feel like a failure and have shall we say very negative feelings towards self right now > > why would i binge when i am allowed to eat anything anyway????????? > > > A similar thing happened to me yesterday but I know why. I ran out the door in the morning and only took a banana and water. I didn't eat lunch until after noon and then only soup and salad which I know was only about 300 calories. When I got home I just could not get full. So I ate and ate. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2012 Report Share Posted January 17, 2012 What if you knew the fastest way to get over a binge was to practice kindness and self care on yourself? Could you do it then? Could you at least try to fake-it-til-you-make it? I remember reading a book (I Can Make You Thin) and it said I had to look in the mirror and say nice things to my body. Even the parts I disliked. It was so hard at first... but it got easier. And I really was happier, being nice to myself. Looked at another way, did hating yourself help in the past to lose weight or stop binging?as far as eating... i understand that feeling of lead in your belly, and not wanting anything to do with food! could you at least bring a snack with you so that when you DO get hungry, you can take loving care of yourself... and also feed yourself before you are starving... and putting yourself at risk for binging all over again?  i understand what ur saying and i definitely do not starve myself ever, but after a binge i feel too full the next morning to even consider eating. would just add to that gross lump of lead in stomach feeling. does anyone here eat the next day after a binge even when not hungry? To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2012 3:50 PM Subject: Re: Re: get past a binge  maybe you could try gently offering yourself food after a binge, even if you are not hungry? i think it might help to interrupt the cycle. i like to think of talking to myself as if I was my child. very gently, like, " i know you ate too much last night, honey, but how about a little too eat now, even if you don't feel that hungry, so that you don't wind up too hungry later? " lots of books I've read have talked about the importance of feeding yourself again after a binge.  now i did that today! wasnt hungry in the morning before the gym because of yesterdays binge, just had iced coffee, and after workout i could not get full. i ate a lot and almost felt like losing control but i think i am ok. feel calm now. a bit overful but not guilty or yuck. i will say that i find the day after a binge, my signals are MESSED UP. completely out of whack. thats why i often binge few days in a row, vicious cycle cuz makes it harder and harder to stop. sooo annoying To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2012 10:55 AM Subject: Re: get past a binge  >> hey everyone i dont know if anyone else posts their personal failures (or successes) but i have no one else to talk about this to( i cant tell my husband Im on a non-diet, he will be apalled) anyways last night i ate an entire box of peanut butter wafers covered in white chocolate. and i was NOT hungry. i just cant get over it. im so angry i feel like i want to rip soemthing up and yell. im going to the gym now with this full stomach like a rock. arrrggg > feel like a failure and have shall we say very negative feelings towards self right now> why would i binge when i am allowed to eat anything anyway?????????>A similar thing happened to me yesterday but I know why. I ran out the door in the morning and only took a banana and water. I didn't eat lunch until after noon and then only soup and salad which I know was only about 300 calories. When I got home I just could not get full. So I ate and ate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2012 Report Share Posted January 17, 2012 What if you knew the fastest way to get over a binge was to practice kindness and self care on yourself? Could you do it then? Could you at least try to fake-it-til-you-make it? I remember reading a book (I Can Make You Thin) and it said I had to look in the mirror and say nice things to my body. Even the parts I disliked. It was so hard at first... but it got easier. And I really was happier, being nice to myself. Looked at another way, did hating yourself help in the past to lose weight or stop binging?as far as eating... i understand that feeling of lead in your belly, and not wanting anything to do with food! could you at least bring a snack with you so that when you DO get hungry, you can take loving care of yourself... and also feed yourself before you are starving... and putting yourself at risk for binging all over again?  i understand what ur saying and i definitely do not starve myself ever, but after a binge i feel too full the next morning to even consider eating. would just add to that gross lump of lead in stomach feeling. does anyone here eat the next day after a binge even when not hungry? To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2012 3:50 PM Subject: Re: Re: get past a binge  maybe you could try gently offering yourself food after a binge, even if you are not hungry? i think it might help to interrupt the cycle. i like to think of talking to myself as if I was my child. very gently, like, " i know you ate too much last night, honey, but how about a little too eat now, even if you don't feel that hungry, so that you don't wind up too hungry later? " lots of books I've read have talked about the importance of feeding yourself again after a binge.  now i did that today! wasnt hungry in the morning before the gym because of yesterdays binge, just had iced coffee, and after workout i could not get full. i ate a lot and almost felt like losing control but i think i am ok. feel calm now. a bit overful but not guilty or yuck. i will say that i find the day after a binge, my signals are MESSED UP. completely out of whack. thats why i often binge few days in a row, vicious cycle cuz makes it harder and harder to stop. sooo annoying To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2012 10:55 AM Subject: Re: get past a binge  >> hey everyone i dont know if anyone else posts their personal failures (or successes) but i have no one else to talk about this to( i cant tell my husband Im on a non-diet, he will be apalled) anyways last night i ate an entire box of peanut butter wafers covered in white chocolate. and i was NOT hungry. i just cant get over it. im so angry i feel like i want to rip soemthing up and yell. im going to the gym now with this full stomach like a rock. arrrggg > feel like a failure and have shall we say very negative feelings towards self right now> why would i binge when i am allowed to eat anything anyway?????????>A similar thing happened to me yesterday but I know why. I ran out the door in the morning and only took a banana and water. I didn't eat lunch until after noon and then only soup and salad which I know was only about 300 calories. When I got home I just could not get full. So I ate and ate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2012 Report Share Posted January 17, 2012 What if you knew the fastest way to get over a binge was to practice kindness and self care on yourself? Could you do it then? Could you at least try to fake-it-til-you-make it? I remember reading a book (I Can Make You Thin) and it said I had to look in the mirror and say nice things to my body. Even the parts I disliked. It was so hard at first... but it got easier. And I really was happier, being nice to myself. Looked at another way, did hating yourself help in the past to lose weight or stop binging?as far as eating... i understand that feeling of lead in your belly, and not wanting anything to do with food! could you at least bring a snack with you so that when you DO get hungry, you can take loving care of yourself... and also feed yourself before you are starving... and putting yourself at risk for binging all over again?  i understand what ur saying and i definitely do not starve myself ever, but after a binge i feel too full the next morning to even consider eating. would just add to that gross lump of lead in stomach feeling. does anyone here eat the next day after a binge even when not hungry? To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2012 3:50 PM Subject: Re: Re: get past a binge  maybe you could try gently offering yourself food after a binge, even if you are not hungry? i think it might help to interrupt the cycle. i like to think of talking to myself as if I was my child. very gently, like, " i know you ate too much last night, honey, but how about a little too eat now, even if you don't feel that hungry, so that you don't wind up too hungry later? " lots of books I've read have talked about the importance of feeding yourself again after a binge.  now i did that today! wasnt hungry in the morning before the gym because of yesterdays binge, just had iced coffee, and after workout i could not get full. i ate a lot and almost felt like losing control but i think i am ok. feel calm now. a bit overful but not guilty or yuck. i will say that i find the day after a binge, my signals are MESSED UP. completely out of whack. thats why i often binge few days in a row, vicious cycle cuz makes it harder and harder to stop. sooo annoying To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2012 10:55 AM Subject: Re: get past a binge  >> hey everyone i dont know if anyone else posts their personal failures (or successes) but i have no one else to talk about this to( i cant tell my husband Im on a non-diet, he will be apalled) anyways last night i ate an entire box of peanut butter wafers covered in white chocolate. and i was NOT hungry. i just cant get over it. im so angry i feel like i want to rip soemthing up and yell. im going to the gym now with this full stomach like a rock. arrrggg > feel like a failure and have shall we say very negative feelings towards self right now> why would i binge when i am allowed to eat anything anyway?????????>A similar thing happened to me yesterday but I know why. I ran out the door in the morning and only took a banana and water. I didn't eat lunch until after noon and then only soup and salad which I know was only about 300 calories. When I got home I just could not get full. So I ate and ate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2012 Report Share Posted January 17, 2012 Binging is a biological response to restricting. Geneen Roth says something like for every diet, there's an equal and opposite binge. When I heard several different people who've conquered eating issues saying this, I stopped hating myself for it. It's not my fault, and it's not yours, either.  This is really wise, Sara!Can you post a link to the YouTube video you mentioned?best,Abby  That feeling of being so angry that you want to rip something up and yell is so familiar that reading the words even feel painful for me. I've been doing this for a year. The most frustrating thing for me to learn was the length of time this process takes, that you focus on each small step you make in the right direction. I've learned that binging is a biological response to restricting. Geneen Roth says something like for every diet, there's an equal and opposite binge. When I heard several different people who've conquered eating issues saying this, I stopped hating myself for it. It's not my fault, and it's not yours, either. Your body has boomeranged from one extreme to the other, and it takes time to balance itself between the two. As others have said, there is also the issue of eating for emotional reasons. You were not hungry for what you were eating, but your were hungry for something (other than food). My greatest growth has occured when I've done what you describe, and then sat down and wrote out what it was I was really needing, which wasn't all that food, and then problem-solved to figure out how to give that to myself. So look at your binge as an opportunity to learn and understand what's going on within you. It's about loving yourself enough to take care of yourself with the same intensity you'd take care of your newborn child. Until I began to do that, I had no idea how horribly I'd been treating myself. It's amazing how good you feel when you begin to honor yourself. Geneen Roth has a YouTube video about just that. Give it a look. Because this is a disease of isolation, it also helps me immensely to post some of my successes/failures and to read those of others, so please post away. Sara > > hey everyone i dont know if anyone else posts their personal failures (or successes) but i have no one else to talk about this to( i cant tell my husband Im on a non-diet, he will be apalled) anyways last night i ate an entire box of peanut butter wafers covered in white chocolate. and i was NOT hungry. i just cant get over it. im so angry i feel like i want to rip soemthing up and yell. im going to the gym now with this full stomach like a rock. arrrggg > feel like a failure and have shall we say very negative feelings towards self right now > why would i binge when i am allowed to eat anything anyway????????? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2012 Report Share Posted January 17, 2012 Binging is a biological response to restricting. Geneen Roth says something like for every diet, there's an equal and opposite binge. When I heard several different people who've conquered eating issues saying this, I stopped hating myself for it. It's not my fault, and it's not yours, either.  This is really wise, Sara!Can you post a link to the YouTube video you mentioned?best,Abby  That feeling of being so angry that you want to rip something up and yell is so familiar that reading the words even feel painful for me. I've been doing this for a year. The most frustrating thing for me to learn was the length of time this process takes, that you focus on each small step you make in the right direction. I've learned that binging is a biological response to restricting. Geneen Roth says something like for every diet, there's an equal and opposite binge. When I heard several different people who've conquered eating issues saying this, I stopped hating myself for it. It's not my fault, and it's not yours, either. Your body has boomeranged from one extreme to the other, and it takes time to balance itself between the two. As others have said, there is also the issue of eating for emotional reasons. You were not hungry for what you were eating, but your were hungry for something (other than food). My greatest growth has occured when I've done what you describe, and then sat down and wrote out what it was I was really needing, which wasn't all that food, and then problem-solved to figure out how to give that to myself. So look at your binge as an opportunity to learn and understand what's going on within you. It's about loving yourself enough to take care of yourself with the same intensity you'd take care of your newborn child. Until I began to do that, I had no idea how horribly I'd been treating myself. It's amazing how good you feel when you begin to honor yourself. Geneen Roth has a YouTube video about just that. Give it a look. Because this is a disease of isolation, it also helps me immensely to post some of my successes/failures and to read those of others, so please post away. Sara > > hey everyone i dont know if anyone else posts their personal failures (or successes) but i have no one else to talk about this to( i cant tell my husband Im on a non-diet, he will be apalled) anyways last night i ate an entire box of peanut butter wafers covered in white chocolate. and i was NOT hungry. i just cant get over it. im so angry i feel like i want to rip soemthing up and yell. im going to the gym now with this full stomach like a rock. arrrggg > feel like a failure and have shall we say very negative feelings towards self right now > why would i binge when i am allowed to eat anything anyway????????? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2012 Report Share Posted January 17, 2012 Binging is a biological response to restricting. Geneen Roth says something like for every diet, there's an equal and opposite binge. When I heard several different people who've conquered eating issues saying this, I stopped hating myself for it. It's not my fault, and it's not yours, either.  This is really wise, Sara!Can you post a link to the YouTube video you mentioned?best,Abby  That feeling of being so angry that you want to rip something up and yell is so familiar that reading the words even feel painful for me. I've been doing this for a year. The most frustrating thing for me to learn was the length of time this process takes, that you focus on each small step you make in the right direction. I've learned that binging is a biological response to restricting. Geneen Roth says something like for every diet, there's an equal and opposite binge. When I heard several different people who've conquered eating issues saying this, I stopped hating myself for it. It's not my fault, and it's not yours, either. Your body has boomeranged from one extreme to the other, and it takes time to balance itself between the two. As others have said, there is also the issue of eating for emotional reasons. You were not hungry for what you were eating, but your were hungry for something (other than food). My greatest growth has occured when I've done what you describe, and then sat down and wrote out what it was I was really needing, which wasn't all that food, and then problem-solved to figure out how to give that to myself. So look at your binge as an opportunity to learn and understand what's going on within you. It's about loving yourself enough to take care of yourself with the same intensity you'd take care of your newborn child. Until I began to do that, I had no idea how horribly I'd been treating myself. It's amazing how good you feel when you begin to honor yourself. Geneen Roth has a YouTube video about just that. Give it a look. Because this is a disease of isolation, it also helps me immensely to post some of my successes/failures and to read those of others, so please post away. Sara > > hey everyone i dont know if anyone else posts their personal failures (or successes) but i have no one else to talk about this to( i cant tell my husband Im on a non-diet, he will be apalled) anyways last night i ate an entire box of peanut butter wafers covered in white chocolate. and i was NOT hungry. i just cant get over it. im so angry i feel like i want to rip soemthing up and yell. im going to the gym now with this full stomach like a rock. arrrggg > feel like a failure and have shall we say very negative feelings towards self right now > why would i binge when i am allowed to eat anything anyway????????? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2012 Report Share Posted January 17, 2012 I eat when I get physically hungry again. Sometimes it takes a while after I've overeaten. > >> > >> hey everyone i dont know if anyone else posts their personal failures (or successes) but i have no one else to talk about this to( i cant tell my husband Im on a non-diet, he will be apalled) anyways last night i ate an entire box of peanut butter wafers covered in white chocolate. and i was NOT hungry. i just cant get over it. im so angry i feel like i want to rip soemthing up and yell. im going to the gym now with this full stomach like a rock. arrrggg > >> feel like a failure and have shall we say very negative feelings towards self right now > >> why would i binge when i am allowed to eat anything anyway????????? > >> > >A similar thing happened to me yesterday but I know why. I ran out the door in the morning and only took a banana and water. I didn't eat lunch until after noon and then only soup and salad which I know was only about 300 calories. When I got home I just could not get full. So I ate and ate. > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2012 Report Share Posted January 17, 2012 I eat when I get physically hungry again. Sometimes it takes a while after I've overeaten. > >> > >> hey everyone i dont know if anyone else posts their personal failures (or successes) but i have no one else to talk about this to( i cant tell my husband Im on a non-diet, he will be apalled) anyways last night i ate an entire box of peanut butter wafers covered in white chocolate. and i was NOT hungry. i just cant get over it. im so angry i feel like i want to rip soemthing up and yell. im going to the gym now with this full stomach like a rock. arrrggg > >> feel like a failure and have shall we say very negative feelings towards self right now > >> why would i binge when i am allowed to eat anything anyway????????? > >> > >A similar thing happened to me yesterday but I know why. I ran out the door in the morning and only took a banana and water. I didn't eat lunch until after noon and then only soup and salad which I know was only about 300 calories. When I got home I just could not get full. So I ate and ate. > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2012 Report Share Posted January 17, 2012 This is it, but I can't seem to make it the blue link that you can just click on. The title is Geneen Roth on Women Food and God. http://youtu.be/82Znw2UYH4c > > > > > > hey everyone i dont know if anyone else posts their personal failures > > (or successes) but i have no one else to talk about this to( i cant tell my > > husband Im on a non-diet, he will be apalled) anyways last night i ate an > > entire box of peanut butter wafers covered in white chocolate. and i was > > NOT hungry. i just cant get over it. im so angry i feel like i want to rip > > soemthing up and yell. im going to the gym now with this full stomach > > like a rock. arrrggg > > > feel like a failure and have shall we say very negative feelings towards > > self right now > > > why would i binge when i am allowed to eat anything anyway????????? > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2012 Report Share Posted January 17, 2012 This is it, but I can't seem to make it the blue link that you can just click on. The title is Geneen Roth on Women Food and God. http://youtu.be/82Znw2UYH4c > > > > > > hey everyone i dont know if anyone else posts their personal failures > > (or successes) but i have no one else to talk about this to( i cant tell my > > husband Im on a non-diet, he will be apalled) anyways last night i ate an > > entire box of peanut butter wafers covered in white chocolate. and i was > > NOT hungry. i just cant get over it. im so angry i feel like i want to rip > > soemthing up and yell. im going to the gym now with this full stomach > > like a rock. arrrggg > > > feel like a failure and have shall we say very negative feelings towards > > self right now > > > why would i binge when i am allowed to eat anything anyway????????? > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2012 Report Share Posted January 17, 2012 This is it, but I can't seem to make it the blue link that you can just click on. The title is Geneen Roth on Women Food and God. http://youtu.be/82Znw2UYH4c > > > > > > hey everyone i dont know if anyone else posts their personal failures > > (or successes) but i have no one else to talk about this to( i cant tell my > > husband Im on a non-diet, he will be apalled) anyways last night i ate an > > entire box of peanut butter wafers covered in white chocolate. and i was > > NOT hungry. i just cant get over it. im so angry i feel like i want to rip > > soemthing up and yell. im going to the gym now with this full stomach > > like a rock. arrrggg > > > feel like a failure and have shall we say very negative feelings towards > > self right now > > > why would i binge when i am allowed to eat anything anyway????????? > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2012 Report Share Posted January 17, 2012 sara- thank you for saying that binging is not (necessarily) my fault... it really makes sense. sometimes i feel like i am being drawn by magnet to the junk, even though i can deep down, feel that i know its not what i want. it is a rebound from restricitng... gotta think this out. also- funny what you said about a newborn- i have a 3 and a half month old baby girl and of course i take amazing care of her i will think about that type of care for myself (though could never survive on a breastmilk diet!) To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2012 7:35 PMSubject: Re: get past a binge That feeling of being so angry that you want to rip something up and yell is so familiar that reading the words even feel painful for me. I've been doing this for a year. The most frustrating thing for me to learn was the length of time this process takes, that you focus on each small step you make in the right direction. I've learned that binging is a biological response to restricting. Geneen Roth says something like for every diet, there's an equal and opposite binge. When I heard several different people who've conquered eating issues saying this, I stopped hating myself for it. It's not my fault, and it's not yours, either. Your body has boomeranged from one extreme to the other, and it takes time to balance itself between the two.As others have said, there is also the issue of eating for emotional reasons. You were not hungry for what you were eating, but your were hungry for something (other than food). My greatest growth has occured when I've done what you describe, and then sat down and wrote out what it was I was really needing, which wasn't all that food, and then problem-solved to figure out how to give that to myself. So look at your binge as an opportunity to learn and understand what's going on within you.It's about loving yourself enough to take care of yourself with the same intensity you'd take care of your newborn child. Until I began to do that, I had no idea how horribly I'd been treating myself. It's amazing how good you feel when you begin to honor yourself. Geneen Roth has a YouTube video about just that. Give it a look.Because this is a disease of isolation, it also helps me immensely to post some of my successes/failures and to read those of others, so please post away.Sara >> hey everyone i dont know if anyone else posts their personal failures (or successes) but i have no one else to talk about this to( i cant tell my husband Im on a non-diet, he will be apalled) anyways last night i ate an entire box of peanut butter wafers covered in white chocolate. and i was NOT hungry. i just cant get over it. im so angry i feel like i want to rip soemthing up and yell. im going to the gym now with this full stomach like a rock. arrrggg> feel like a failure and have shall we say very negative feelings towards self right now> why would i binge when i am allowed to eat anything anyway?????????> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2012 Report Share Posted January 17, 2012 sara- thank you for saying that binging is not (necessarily) my fault... it really makes sense. sometimes i feel like i am being drawn by magnet to the junk, even though i can deep down, feel that i know its not what i want. it is a rebound from restricitng... gotta think this out. also- funny what you said about a newborn- i have a 3 and a half month old baby girl and of course i take amazing care of her i will think about that type of care for myself (though could never survive on a breastmilk diet!) To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2012 7:35 PMSubject: Re: get past a binge That feeling of being so angry that you want to rip something up and yell is so familiar that reading the words even feel painful for me. I've been doing this for a year. The most frustrating thing for me to learn was the length of time this process takes, that you focus on each small step you make in the right direction. I've learned that binging is a biological response to restricting. Geneen Roth says something like for every diet, there's an equal and opposite binge. When I heard several different people who've conquered eating issues saying this, I stopped hating myself for it. It's not my fault, and it's not yours, either. Your body has boomeranged from one extreme to the other, and it takes time to balance itself between the two.As others have said, there is also the issue of eating for emotional reasons. You were not hungry for what you were eating, but your were hungry for something (other than food). My greatest growth has occured when I've done what you describe, and then sat down and wrote out what it was I was really needing, which wasn't all that food, and then problem-solved to figure out how to give that to myself. So look at your binge as an opportunity to learn and understand what's going on within you.It's about loving yourself enough to take care of yourself with the same intensity you'd take care of your newborn child. Until I began to do that, I had no idea how horribly I'd been treating myself. It's amazing how good you feel when you begin to honor yourself. Geneen Roth has a YouTube video about just that. Give it a look.Because this is a disease of isolation, it also helps me immensely to post some of my successes/failures and to read those of others, so please post away.Sara >> hey everyone i dont know if anyone else posts their personal failures (or successes) but i have no one else to talk about this to( i cant tell my husband Im on a non-diet, he will be apalled) anyways last night i ate an entire box of peanut butter wafers covered in white chocolate. and i was NOT hungry. i just cant get over it. im so angry i feel like i want to rip soemthing up and yell. im going to the gym now with this full stomach like a rock. arrrggg> feel like a failure and have shall we say very negative feelings towards self right now> why would i binge when i am allowed to eat anything anyway?????????> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2012 Report Share Posted January 17, 2012 sara- thank you for saying that binging is not (necessarily) my fault... it really makes sense. sometimes i feel like i am being drawn by magnet to the junk, even though i can deep down, feel that i know its not what i want. it is a rebound from restricitng... gotta think this out. also- funny what you said about a newborn- i have a 3 and a half month old baby girl and of course i take amazing care of her i will think about that type of care for myself (though could never survive on a breastmilk diet!) To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2012 7:35 PMSubject: Re: get past a binge That feeling of being so angry that you want to rip something up and yell is so familiar that reading the words even feel painful for me. I've been doing this for a year. The most frustrating thing for me to learn was the length of time this process takes, that you focus on each small step you make in the right direction. I've learned that binging is a biological response to restricting. Geneen Roth says something like for every diet, there's an equal and opposite binge. When I heard several different people who've conquered eating issues saying this, I stopped hating myself for it. It's not my fault, and it's not yours, either. Your body has boomeranged from one extreme to the other, and it takes time to balance itself between the two.As others have said, there is also the issue of eating for emotional reasons. You were not hungry for what you were eating, but your were hungry for something (other than food). My greatest growth has occured when I've done what you describe, and then sat down and wrote out what it was I was really needing, which wasn't all that food, and then problem-solved to figure out how to give that to myself. So look at your binge as an opportunity to learn and understand what's going on within you.It's about loving yourself enough to take care of yourself with the same intensity you'd take care of your newborn child. Until I began to do that, I had no idea how horribly I'd been treating myself. It's amazing how good you feel when you begin to honor yourself. Geneen Roth has a YouTube video about just that. Give it a look.Because this is a disease of isolation, it also helps me immensely to post some of my successes/failures and to read those of others, so please post away.Sara >> hey everyone i dont know if anyone else posts their personal failures (or successes) but i have no one else to talk about this to( i cant tell my husband Im on a non-diet, he will be apalled) anyways last night i ate an entire box of peanut butter wafers covered in white chocolate. and i was NOT hungry. i just cant get over it. im so angry i feel like i want to rip soemthing up and yell. im going to the gym now with this full stomach like a rock. arrrggg> feel like a failure and have shall we say very negative feelings towards self right now> why would i binge when i am allowed to eat anything anyway?????????> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2012 Report Share Posted January 17, 2012 i do pack snacks, but post binge, i can wait forevever till hungry again! like 1 or 2 pm for the first food of the day my signals get way messed up post binge. that is why i will NOT be binging tonite! hear that, brain????? To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2012 7:41 PMSubject: Re: Re: get past a binge What if you knew the fastest way to get over a binge was to practice kindness and self care on yourself? Could you do it then? Could you at least try to fake-it-til-you-make it? I remember reading a book (I Can Make You Thin) and it said I had to look in the mirror and say nice things to my body. Even the parts I disliked. It was so hard at first... but it got easier. And I really was happier, being nice to myself. Looked at another way, did hating yourself help in the past to lose weight or stop binging? as far as eating... i understand that feeling of lead in your belly, and not wanting anything to do with food! could you at least bring a snack with you so that when you DO get hungry, you can take loving care of yourself... and also feed yourself before you are starving... and putting yourself at risk for binging all over again? i understand what ur saying and i definitely do not starve myself ever, but after a binge i feel too full the next morning to even consider eating. would just add to that gross lump of lead in stomach feeling. does anyone here eat the next day after a binge even when not hungry? To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2012 3:50 PMSubject: Re: Re: get past a binge maybe you could try gently offering yourself food after a binge, even if you are not hungry? i think it might help to interrupt the cycle. i like to think of talking to myself as if I was my child. very gently, like, "i know you ate too much last night, honey, but how about a little too eat now, even if you don't feel that hungry, so that you don't wind up too hungry later?" lots of books I've read have talked about the importance of feeding yourself again after a binge. now i did that today! wasnt hungry in the morning before the gym because of yesterdays binge, just had iced coffee, and after workout i could not get full. i ate a lot and almost felt like losing control but i think i am ok. feel calm now. a bit overful but not guilty or yuck. i will say that i find the day after a binge, my signals are MESSED UP. completely out of whack. thats why i often binge few days in a row, vicious cycle cuz makes it harder and harder to stop. sooo annoying To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2012 10:55 AMSubject: Re: get past a binge >> hey everyone i dont know if anyone else posts their personal failures (or successes) but i have no one else to talk about this to( i cant tell my husband Im on a non-diet, he will be apalled) anyways last night i ate an entire box of peanut butter wafers covered in white chocolate. and i was NOT hungry. i just cant get over it. im so angry i feel like i want to rip soemthing up and yell. im going to the gym now with this full stomach like a rock. arrrggg> feel like a failure and have shall we say very negative feelings towards self right now> why would i binge when i am allowed to eat anything anyway?????????>A similar thing happened to me yesterday but I know why. I ran out the door in the morning and only took a banana and water. I didn't eat lunch until after noon and then only soup and salad which I know was only about 300 calories. When I got home I just could not get full. So I ate and ate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2012 Report Share Posted January 17, 2012 i do pack snacks, but post binge, i can wait forevever till hungry again! like 1 or 2 pm for the first food of the day my signals get way messed up post binge. that is why i will NOT be binging tonite! hear that, brain????? To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2012 7:41 PMSubject: Re: Re: get past a binge What if you knew the fastest way to get over a binge was to practice kindness and self care on yourself? Could you do it then? Could you at least try to fake-it-til-you-make it? I remember reading a book (I Can Make You Thin) and it said I had to look in the mirror and say nice things to my body. Even the parts I disliked. It was so hard at first... but it got easier. And I really was happier, being nice to myself. Looked at another way, did hating yourself help in the past to lose weight or stop binging? as far as eating... i understand that feeling of lead in your belly, and not wanting anything to do with food! could you at least bring a snack with you so that when you DO get hungry, you can take loving care of yourself... and also feed yourself before you are starving... and putting yourself at risk for binging all over again? i understand what ur saying and i definitely do not starve myself ever, but after a binge i feel too full the next morning to even consider eating. would just add to that gross lump of lead in stomach feeling. does anyone here eat the next day after a binge even when not hungry? To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2012 3:50 PMSubject: Re: Re: get past a binge maybe you could try gently offering yourself food after a binge, even if you are not hungry? i think it might help to interrupt the cycle. i like to think of talking to myself as if I was my child. very gently, like, "i know you ate too much last night, honey, but how about a little too eat now, even if you don't feel that hungry, so that you don't wind up too hungry later?" lots of books I've read have talked about the importance of feeding yourself again after a binge. now i did that today! wasnt hungry in the morning before the gym because of yesterdays binge, just had iced coffee, and after workout i could not get full. i ate a lot and almost felt like losing control but i think i am ok. feel calm now. a bit overful but not guilty or yuck. i will say that i find the day after a binge, my signals are MESSED UP. completely out of whack. thats why i often binge few days in a row, vicious cycle cuz makes it harder and harder to stop. sooo annoying To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2012 10:55 AMSubject: Re: get past a binge >> hey everyone i dont know if anyone else posts their personal failures (or successes) but i have no one else to talk about this to( i cant tell my husband Im on a non-diet, he will be apalled) anyways last night i ate an entire box of peanut butter wafers covered in white chocolate. and i was NOT hungry. i just cant get over it. im so angry i feel like i want to rip soemthing up and yell. im going to the gym now with this full stomach like a rock. arrrggg> feel like a failure and have shall we say very negative feelings towards self right now> why would i binge when i am allowed to eat anything anyway?????????>A similar thing happened to me yesterday but I know why. I ran out the door in the morning and only took a banana and water. I didn't eat lunch until after noon and then only soup and salad which I know was only about 300 calories. When I got home I just could not get full. So I ate and ate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2012 Report Share Posted January 17, 2012 i do pack snacks, but post binge, i can wait forevever till hungry again! like 1 or 2 pm for the first food of the day my signals get way messed up post binge. that is why i will NOT be binging tonite! hear that, brain????? To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2012 7:41 PMSubject: Re: Re: get past a binge What if you knew the fastest way to get over a binge was to practice kindness and self care on yourself? Could you do it then? Could you at least try to fake-it-til-you-make it? I remember reading a book (I Can Make You Thin) and it said I had to look in the mirror and say nice things to my body. Even the parts I disliked. It was so hard at first... but it got easier. And I really was happier, being nice to myself. Looked at another way, did hating yourself help in the past to lose weight or stop binging? as far as eating... i understand that feeling of lead in your belly, and not wanting anything to do with food! could you at least bring a snack with you so that when you DO get hungry, you can take loving care of yourself... and also feed yourself before you are starving... and putting yourself at risk for binging all over again? i understand what ur saying and i definitely do not starve myself ever, but after a binge i feel too full the next morning to even consider eating. would just add to that gross lump of lead in stomach feeling. does anyone here eat the next day after a binge even when not hungry? To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2012 3:50 PMSubject: Re: Re: get past a binge maybe you could try gently offering yourself food after a binge, even if you are not hungry? i think it might help to interrupt the cycle. i like to think of talking to myself as if I was my child. very gently, like, "i know you ate too much last night, honey, but how about a little too eat now, even if you don't feel that hungry, so that you don't wind up too hungry later?" lots of books I've read have talked about the importance of feeding yourself again after a binge. now i did that today! wasnt hungry in the morning before the gym because of yesterdays binge, just had iced coffee, and after workout i could not get full. i ate a lot and almost felt like losing control but i think i am ok. feel calm now. a bit overful but not guilty or yuck. i will say that i find the day after a binge, my signals are MESSED UP. completely out of whack. thats why i often binge few days in a row, vicious cycle cuz makes it harder and harder to stop. sooo annoying To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2012 10:55 AMSubject: Re: get past a binge >> hey everyone i dont know if anyone else posts their personal failures (or successes) but i have no one else to talk about this to( i cant tell my husband Im on a non-diet, he will be apalled) anyways last night i ate an entire box of peanut butter wafers covered in white chocolate. and i was NOT hungry. i just cant get over it. im so angry i feel like i want to rip soemthing up and yell. im going to the gym now with this full stomach like a rock. arrrggg> feel like a failure and have shall we say very negative feelings towards self right now> why would i binge when i am allowed to eat anything anyway?????????>A similar thing happened to me yesterday but I know why. I ran out the door in the morning and only took a banana and water. I didn't eat lunch until after noon and then only soup and salad which I know was only about 300 calories. When I got home I just could not get full. So I ate and ate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2012 Report Share Posted January 17, 2012 I think you are right, Sara. I think undereating leads to overeating. I did that today. Didn't eat enough all day and then pulled out all the stops in the evening, went the path of most calories in shortest time. OK, people..... let's keep ourselves fed! Ellie > > To me, this sounds like you were simply extremely hungry. My nutritionist told me that if a person gets to this level of hunger, it's physically impossible not to overeat. > > > > > A similar thing happened to me yesterday but I know why. I ran out the door in the morning and only took a banana and water. I didn't eat lunch until after noon and then only soup and salad which I know was only about 300 calories. When I got home I just could not get full. So I ate and ate. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2012 Report Share Posted January 17, 2012 I think you are right, Sara. I think undereating leads to overeating. I did that today. Didn't eat enough all day and then pulled out all the stops in the evening, went the path of most calories in shortest time. OK, people..... let's keep ourselves fed! Ellie > > To me, this sounds like you were simply extremely hungry. My nutritionist told me that if a person gets to this level of hunger, it's physically impossible not to overeat. > > > > > A similar thing happened to me yesterday but I know why. I ran out the door in the morning and only took a banana and water. I didn't eat lunch until after noon and then only soup and salad which I know was only about 300 calories. When I got home I just could not get full. So I ate and ate. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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