Guest guest Posted January 19, 2012 Report Share Posted January 19, 2012 Oh Ellie- I HEAR you! It is so difficult to fight the diet demon when you have not yet made peace with who you are, now, in this moment. Do the numbers you are obsessing over this minutequickly? No! I struggle with the same panicky feelings of wanting to turn somewhere for a quick solution. But urning to a diet plan is like a smoker turning to a cigarette- it is the most comfortable coping mechanism we know. It doesn't work. I really encourage you to read the IE book. I cried in the first 30 pages because it resonated to deeply with me. > > I did the bad thing this morning..... stepped on the scale. > > This came about because my husband told me last night he's joined WW online. So I thought.... how much *do* I weigh, anyway? I'm only 2 pounds over my wake-up call number but I'm having thoughts of, " He's going to be following WW, maybe I should do it with him.... " Two pounds over my wake-up call is 12 pounds over the weight I like and 17 pounds over my best athletic weight. See???? I'm counting, I'm obsessing on numbers. The last thing I need is to be counting " points " as well. Numbers drive me crazy. > > > I don't believe in restriction but I do not yet trust myself to let my innate wisdom take the lead; it's been suppressed so long by either diets or overeating. > > I just asked myself: Do I *want* to overeat? No, I don't. Well, why am I doing something I really don't want to do, when I have the choice to do it or not? Mostly it's the darn cookies. We live with my mother, who's 90, and she wants cookies. I'm not telling a 90-yr-old she can't have cookies just because I binge on them. She doesn't even eat that many. They disappear because I eat them all. > > > Maybe I should read the IE book after all. > > Ellie > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2012 Report Share Posted January 19, 2012 Oh Ellie- I HEAR you! It is so difficult to fight the diet demon when you have not yet made peace with who you are, now, in this moment. Do the numbers you are obsessing over this minutequickly? No! I struggle with the same panicky feelings of wanting to turn somewhere for a quick solution. But urning to a diet plan is like a smoker turning to a cigarette- it is the most comfortable coping mechanism we know. It doesn't work. I really encourage you to read the IE book. I cried in the first 30 pages because it resonated to deeply with me. > > I did the bad thing this morning..... stepped on the scale. > > This came about because my husband told me last night he's joined WW online. So I thought.... how much *do* I weigh, anyway? I'm only 2 pounds over my wake-up call number but I'm having thoughts of, " He's going to be following WW, maybe I should do it with him.... " Two pounds over my wake-up call is 12 pounds over the weight I like and 17 pounds over my best athletic weight. See???? I'm counting, I'm obsessing on numbers. The last thing I need is to be counting " points " as well. Numbers drive me crazy. > > > I don't believe in restriction but I do not yet trust myself to let my innate wisdom take the lead; it's been suppressed so long by either diets or overeating. > > I just asked myself: Do I *want* to overeat? No, I don't. Well, why am I doing something I really don't want to do, when I have the choice to do it or not? Mostly it's the darn cookies. We live with my mother, who's 90, and she wants cookies. I'm not telling a 90-yr-old she can't have cookies just because I binge on them. She doesn't even eat that many. They disappear because I eat them all. > > > Maybe I should read the IE book after all. > > Ellie > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2012 Report Share Posted January 19, 2012 Oh Ellie- I HEAR you! It is so difficult to fight the diet demon when you have not yet made peace with who you are, now, in this moment. Do the numbers you are obsessing over this minutequickly? No! I struggle with the same panicky feelings of wanting to turn somewhere for a quick solution. But urning to a diet plan is like a smoker turning to a cigarette- it is the most comfortable coping mechanism we know. It doesn't work. I really encourage you to read the IE book. I cried in the first 30 pages because it resonated to deeply with me. > > I did the bad thing this morning..... stepped on the scale. > > This came about because my husband told me last night he's joined WW online. So I thought.... how much *do* I weigh, anyway? I'm only 2 pounds over my wake-up call number but I'm having thoughts of, " He's going to be following WW, maybe I should do it with him.... " Two pounds over my wake-up call is 12 pounds over the weight I like and 17 pounds over my best athletic weight. See???? I'm counting, I'm obsessing on numbers. The last thing I need is to be counting " points " as well. Numbers drive me crazy. > > > I don't believe in restriction but I do not yet trust myself to let my innate wisdom take the lead; it's been suppressed so long by either diets or overeating. > > I just asked myself: Do I *want* to overeat? No, I don't. Well, why am I doing something I really don't want to do, when I have the choice to do it or not? Mostly it's the darn cookies. We live with my mother, who's 90, and she wants cookies. I'm not telling a 90-yr-old she can't have cookies just because I binge on them. She doesn't even eat that many. They disappear because I eat them all. > > > Maybe I should read the IE book after all. > > Ellie > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2012 Report Share Posted January 19, 2012 Ellie, the book is really good and helpful as are many of the others that are listed on the sight. Be gentle with yourself. IE is a journey and doesn't happen overnight. Awareness is the first step and learning to trust your body is very difficult after many years of dieting. It must be very difficult too with your husband on WW and your mother wanting cookies. I got rid of my scales, but I live alone and I don't have to bring into the house anything I tend to binge on. Just remember Diets Don't Work. Maybe use that as your mantra for a while. Keep in touch. Sandy I did the bad thing this morning..... stepped on the scale.This came about because my husband told me last night he's joined WW online. So I thought.... how much *do* I weigh, anyway? I'm only 2 pounds over my wake-up call number but I'm having thoughts of, " He's going to be following WW, maybe I should do it with him.... " Two pounds over my wake-up call is 12 pounds over the weight I like and 17 pounds over my best athletic weight. See???? I'm counting, I'm obsessing on numbers. The last thing I need is to be counting " points " as well. Numbers drive me crazy. I don't believe in restriction but I do not yet trust myself to let my innate wisdom take the lead; it's been suppressed so long by either diets or overeating. I just asked myself: Do I *want* to overeat? No, I don't. Well, why am I doing something I really don't want to do, when I have the choice to do it or not? Mostly it's the darn cookies. We live with my mother, who's 90, and she wants cookies. I'm not telling a 90-yr-old she can't have cookies just because I binge on them. She doesn't even eat that many. They disappear because I eat them all. Maybe I should read the IE book after all. Ellie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2012 Report Share Posted January 19, 2012 Ellie, the book is really good and helpful as are many of the others that are listed on the sight. Be gentle with yourself. IE is a journey and doesn't happen overnight. Awareness is the first step and learning to trust your body is very difficult after many years of dieting. It must be very difficult too with your husband on WW and your mother wanting cookies. I got rid of my scales, but I live alone and I don't have to bring into the house anything I tend to binge on. Just remember Diets Don't Work. Maybe use that as your mantra for a while. Keep in touch. Sandy I did the bad thing this morning..... stepped on the scale.This came about because my husband told me last night he's joined WW online. So I thought.... how much *do* I weigh, anyway? I'm only 2 pounds over my wake-up call number but I'm having thoughts of, " He's going to be following WW, maybe I should do it with him.... " Two pounds over my wake-up call is 12 pounds over the weight I like and 17 pounds over my best athletic weight. See???? I'm counting, I'm obsessing on numbers. The last thing I need is to be counting " points " as well. Numbers drive me crazy. I don't believe in restriction but I do not yet trust myself to let my innate wisdom take the lead; it's been suppressed so long by either diets or overeating. I just asked myself: Do I *want* to overeat? No, I don't. Well, why am I doing something I really don't want to do, when I have the choice to do it or not? Mostly it's the darn cookies. We live with my mother, who's 90, and she wants cookies. I'm not telling a 90-yr-old she can't have cookies just because I binge on them. She doesn't even eat that many. They disappear because I eat them all. Maybe I should read the IE book after all. Ellie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2012 Report Share Posted January 19, 2012 Ellie, the book is really good and helpful as are many of the others that are listed on the sight. Be gentle with yourself. IE is a journey and doesn't happen overnight. Awareness is the first step and learning to trust your body is very difficult after many years of dieting. It must be very difficult too with your husband on WW and your mother wanting cookies. I got rid of my scales, but I live alone and I don't have to bring into the house anything I tend to binge on. Just remember Diets Don't Work. Maybe use that as your mantra for a while. Keep in touch. Sandy I did the bad thing this morning..... stepped on the scale.This came about because my husband told me last night he's joined WW online. So I thought.... how much *do* I weigh, anyway? I'm only 2 pounds over my wake-up call number but I'm having thoughts of, " He's going to be following WW, maybe I should do it with him.... " Two pounds over my wake-up call is 12 pounds over the weight I like and 17 pounds over my best athletic weight. See???? I'm counting, I'm obsessing on numbers. The last thing I need is to be counting " points " as well. Numbers drive me crazy. I don't believe in restriction but I do not yet trust myself to let my innate wisdom take the lead; it's been suppressed so long by either diets or overeating. I just asked myself: Do I *want* to overeat? No, I don't. Well, why am I doing something I really don't want to do, when I have the choice to do it or not? Mostly it's the darn cookies. We live with my mother, who's 90, and she wants cookies. I'm not telling a 90-yr-old she can't have cookies just because I binge on them. She doesn't even eat that many. They disappear because I eat them all. Maybe I should read the IE book after all. Ellie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2012 Report Share Posted January 19, 2012 Ellie, I also wanted to say be careful how you label things as " good " or " bad " . Just try to notice without judgement as you continue on your IE journey. Sandy I did the bad thing this morning..... stepped on the scale.This came about because my husband told me last night he's joined WW online. So I thought.... how much *do* I weigh, anyway? I'm only 2 pounds over my wake-up call number but I'm having thoughts of, " He's going to be following WW, maybe I should do it with him.... " Two pounds over my wake-up call is 12 pounds over the weight I like and 17 pounds over my best athletic weight. See???? I'm counting, I'm obsessing on numbers. The last thing I need is to be counting " points " as well. Numbers drive me crazy. I don't believe in restriction but I do not yet trust myself to let my innate wisdom take the lead; it's been suppressed so long by either diets or overeating. I just asked myself: Do I *want* to overeat? No, I don't. Well, why am I doing something I really don't want to do, when I have the choice to do it or not? Mostly it's the darn cookies. We live with my mother, who's 90, and she wants cookies. I'm not telling a 90-yr-old she can't have cookies just because I binge on them. She doesn't even eat that many. They disappear because I eat them all. Maybe I should read the IE book after all. Ellie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2012 Report Share Posted January 19, 2012 Ellie, I also wanted to say be careful how you label things as " good " or " bad " . Just try to notice without judgement as you continue on your IE journey. Sandy I did the bad thing this morning..... stepped on the scale.This came about because my husband told me last night he's joined WW online. So I thought.... how much *do* I weigh, anyway? I'm only 2 pounds over my wake-up call number but I'm having thoughts of, " He's going to be following WW, maybe I should do it with him.... " Two pounds over my wake-up call is 12 pounds over the weight I like and 17 pounds over my best athletic weight. See???? I'm counting, I'm obsessing on numbers. The last thing I need is to be counting " points " as well. Numbers drive me crazy. I don't believe in restriction but I do not yet trust myself to let my innate wisdom take the lead; it's been suppressed so long by either diets or overeating. I just asked myself: Do I *want* to overeat? No, I don't. Well, why am I doing something I really don't want to do, when I have the choice to do it or not? Mostly it's the darn cookies. We live with my mother, who's 90, and she wants cookies. I'm not telling a 90-yr-old she can't have cookies just because I binge on them. She doesn't even eat that many. They disappear because I eat them all. Maybe I should read the IE book after all. Ellie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2012 Report Share Posted January 19, 2012 Ellie, I also wanted to say be careful how you label things as " good " or " bad " . Just try to notice without judgement as you continue on your IE journey. Sandy I did the bad thing this morning..... stepped on the scale.This came about because my husband told me last night he's joined WW online. So I thought.... how much *do* I weigh, anyway? I'm only 2 pounds over my wake-up call number but I'm having thoughts of, " He's going to be following WW, maybe I should do it with him.... " Two pounds over my wake-up call is 12 pounds over the weight I like and 17 pounds over my best athletic weight. See???? I'm counting, I'm obsessing on numbers. The last thing I need is to be counting " points " as well. Numbers drive me crazy. I don't believe in restriction but I do not yet trust myself to let my innate wisdom take the lead; it's been suppressed so long by either diets or overeating. I just asked myself: Do I *want* to overeat? No, I don't. Well, why am I doing something I really don't want to do, when I have the choice to do it or not? Mostly it's the darn cookies. We live with my mother, who's 90, and she wants cookies. I'm not telling a 90-yr-old she can't have cookies just because I binge on them. She doesn't even eat that many. They disappear because I eat them all. Maybe I should read the IE book after all. Ellie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2012 Report Share Posted January 19, 2012 Thank you, ladies! I'll stop at the library this morning and look for the book, after my physical therapy appointment. I've injured my Achilles tendon. This is bad news as an injured AT can interfere badly with what I do and set me back for months. Yesterday as I limped around I ate a handful of cookies about every time I went through the kitchen (started with "One won't hurt anything.....)Ellie To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2012 9:56 AM Subject: Re: Bad thing Ellie, I also wanted to say be careful how you label things as "good" or "bad". Just try to notice without judgement as you continue on your IE journey. Sandy I did the bad thing this morning..... stepped on the scale.This came about because my husband told me last night he's joined WW online. So I thought.... how much *do* I weigh, anyway? I'm only 2 pounds over my wake-up call number but I'm having thoughts of, "He's going to be following WW, maybe I should do it with him...." Two pounds over my wake-up call is 12 pounds over the weight I like and 17 pounds over my best athletic weight. See???? I'm counting, I'm obsessing on numbers. The last thing I need is to be counting "points" as well. Numbers drive me crazy. I don't believe in restriction but I do not yet trust myself to let my innate wisdom take the lead; it's been suppressed so long by either diets or overeating. I just asked myself: Do I *want* to overeat? No, I don't. Well, why am I doing something I really don't want to do, when I have the choice to do it or not? Mostly it's the darn cookies. We live with my mother, who's 90, and she wants cookies. I'm not telling a 90-yr-old she can't have cookies just because I binge on them. She doesn't even eat that many. They disappear because I eat them all. Maybe I should read the IE book after all. Ellie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2012 Report Share Posted January 19, 2012 Thank you, ladies! I'll stop at the library this morning and look for the book, after my physical therapy appointment. I've injured my Achilles tendon. This is bad news as an injured AT can interfere badly with what I do and set me back for months. Yesterday as I limped around I ate a handful of cookies about every time I went through the kitchen (started with "One won't hurt anything.....)Ellie To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2012 9:56 AM Subject: Re: Bad thing Ellie, I also wanted to say be careful how you label things as "good" or "bad". Just try to notice without judgement as you continue on your IE journey. Sandy I did the bad thing this morning..... stepped on the scale.This came about because my husband told me last night he's joined WW online. So I thought.... how much *do* I weigh, anyway? I'm only 2 pounds over my wake-up call number but I'm having thoughts of, "He's going to be following WW, maybe I should do it with him...." Two pounds over my wake-up call is 12 pounds over the weight I like and 17 pounds over my best athletic weight. See???? I'm counting, I'm obsessing on numbers. The last thing I need is to be counting "points" as well. Numbers drive me crazy. I don't believe in restriction but I do not yet trust myself to let my innate wisdom take the lead; it's been suppressed so long by either diets or overeating. I just asked myself: Do I *want* to overeat? No, I don't. Well, why am I doing something I really don't want to do, when I have the choice to do it or not? Mostly it's the darn cookies. We live with my mother, who's 90, and she wants cookies. I'm not telling a 90-yr-old she can't have cookies just because I binge on them. She doesn't even eat that many. They disappear because I eat them all. Maybe I should read the IE book after all. Ellie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2012 Report Share Posted January 19, 2012 Thank you, ladies! I'll stop at the library this morning and look for the book, after my physical therapy appointment. I've injured my Achilles tendon. This is bad news as an injured AT can interfere badly with what I do and set me back for months. Yesterday as I limped around I ate a handful of cookies about every time I went through the kitchen (started with "One won't hurt anything.....)Ellie To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2012 9:56 AM Subject: Re: Bad thing Ellie, I also wanted to say be careful how you label things as "good" or "bad". Just try to notice without judgement as you continue on your IE journey. Sandy I did the bad thing this morning..... stepped on the scale.This came about because my husband told me last night he's joined WW online. So I thought.... how much *do* I weigh, anyway? I'm only 2 pounds over my wake-up call number but I'm having thoughts of, "He's going to be following WW, maybe I should do it with him...." Two pounds over my wake-up call is 12 pounds over the weight I like and 17 pounds over my best athletic weight. See???? I'm counting, I'm obsessing on numbers. The last thing I need is to be counting "points" as well. Numbers drive me crazy. I don't believe in restriction but I do not yet trust myself to let my innate wisdom take the lead; it's been suppressed so long by either diets or overeating. I just asked myself: Do I *want* to overeat? No, I don't. Well, why am I doing something I really don't want to do, when I have the choice to do it or not? Mostly it's the darn cookies. We live with my mother, who's 90, and she wants cookies. I'm not telling a 90-yr-old she can't have cookies just because I binge on them. She doesn't even eat that many. They disappear because I eat them all. Maybe I should read the IE book after all. Ellie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2012 Report Share Posted January 19, 2012 Ellie, it seems like others have replied with excellent feedback so I'll just add my 2 cents to the options for you. I agree that labels can be misleading and hurtful. I don't think you did a 'bad' thing but an unproductive or step 'back' in your IE journey. It helped me to think of moving along my IE trail as a 'dance' at times - 2 steps forward, 1 back, 2 to a side and forward again ;-) Testing out what works and doesn't - for YOU - is very much a part of an IE journey. Before IE I weighed myself every week, took my blood pressure and kept that on a 'health' chart. Knowing what those readings were did NOT make me 'healthy' - or not - only made me look at my life IN REVERSE. I came to realize that those numbers turned me judgmental on myself so I stopped keeping a chart. Am I less healthy because of that? I don't think so. In fact I had better annual tests last year than for all the years that I kept charts. I wish your husband well with his WW way. It may very well be what he needs. I also hope that this post gets to you before you go to the library so that you can have a chance to print the Book List that is here at this site (in Files) to take to the library where you can browse thru as many books as you like to find which 'clicks' with you. BEST to you and GOOD job that you posted about this. Not only does this help you, I also get wonderfully reminded of IE too. Katcha IEing since March 2007 > > I did the bad thing this morning..... stepped on the scale. > > This came about because my husband told me last night he's joined WW online. So I thought.... how much *do* I weigh, anyway? I'm only 2 pounds over my wake-up call number but I'm having thoughts of, " He's going to be following WW, maybe I should do it with him.... " Two pounds over my wake-up call is 12 pounds over the weight I like and 17 pounds over my best athletic weight. See???? I'm counting, I'm obsessing on numbers. The last thing I need is to be counting " points " as well. Numbers drive me crazy. > > > I don't believe in restriction but I do not yet trust myself to let my innate wisdom take the lead; it's been suppressed so long by either diets or overeating. > > I just asked myself: Do I *want* to overeat? No, I don't. Well, why am I doing something I really don't want to do, when I have the choice to do it or not? Mostly it's the darn cookies. We live with my mother, who's 90, and she wants cookies. I'm not telling a 90-yr-old she can't have cookies just because I binge on them. She doesn't even eat that many. They disappear because I eat them all. > > > Maybe I should read the IE book after all. > > Ellie > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2012 Report Share Posted January 19, 2012 Ellie, it seems like others have replied with excellent feedback so I'll just add my 2 cents to the options for you. I agree that labels can be misleading and hurtful. I don't think you did a 'bad' thing but an unproductive or step 'back' in your IE journey. It helped me to think of moving along my IE trail as a 'dance' at times - 2 steps forward, 1 back, 2 to a side and forward again ;-) Testing out what works and doesn't - for YOU - is very much a part of an IE journey. Before IE I weighed myself every week, took my blood pressure and kept that on a 'health' chart. Knowing what those readings were did NOT make me 'healthy' - or not - only made me look at my life IN REVERSE. I came to realize that those numbers turned me judgmental on myself so I stopped keeping a chart. Am I less healthy because of that? I don't think so. In fact I had better annual tests last year than for all the years that I kept charts. I wish your husband well with his WW way. It may very well be what he needs. I also hope that this post gets to you before you go to the library so that you can have a chance to print the Book List that is here at this site (in Files) to take to the library where you can browse thru as many books as you like to find which 'clicks' with you. BEST to you and GOOD job that you posted about this. Not only does this help you, I also get wonderfully reminded of IE too. Katcha IEing since March 2007 > > I did the bad thing this morning..... stepped on the scale. > > This came about because my husband told me last night he's joined WW online. So I thought.... how much *do* I weigh, anyway? I'm only 2 pounds over my wake-up call number but I'm having thoughts of, " He's going to be following WW, maybe I should do it with him.... " Two pounds over my wake-up call is 12 pounds over the weight I like and 17 pounds over my best athletic weight. See???? I'm counting, I'm obsessing on numbers. The last thing I need is to be counting " points " as well. Numbers drive me crazy. > > > I don't believe in restriction but I do not yet trust myself to let my innate wisdom take the lead; it's been suppressed so long by either diets or overeating. > > I just asked myself: Do I *want* to overeat? No, I don't. Well, why am I doing something I really don't want to do, when I have the choice to do it or not? Mostly it's the darn cookies. We live with my mother, who's 90, and she wants cookies. I'm not telling a 90-yr-old she can't have cookies just because I binge on them. She doesn't even eat that many. They disappear because I eat them all. > > > Maybe I should read the IE book after all. > > Ellie > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2012 Report Share Posted January 19, 2012 Ellie, it seems like others have replied with excellent feedback so I'll just add my 2 cents to the options for you. I agree that labels can be misleading and hurtful. I don't think you did a 'bad' thing but an unproductive or step 'back' in your IE journey. It helped me to think of moving along my IE trail as a 'dance' at times - 2 steps forward, 1 back, 2 to a side and forward again ;-) Testing out what works and doesn't - for YOU - is very much a part of an IE journey. Before IE I weighed myself every week, took my blood pressure and kept that on a 'health' chart. Knowing what those readings were did NOT make me 'healthy' - or not - only made me look at my life IN REVERSE. I came to realize that those numbers turned me judgmental on myself so I stopped keeping a chart. Am I less healthy because of that? I don't think so. In fact I had better annual tests last year than for all the years that I kept charts. I wish your husband well with his WW way. It may very well be what he needs. I also hope that this post gets to you before you go to the library so that you can have a chance to print the Book List that is here at this site (in Files) to take to the library where you can browse thru as many books as you like to find which 'clicks' with you. BEST to you and GOOD job that you posted about this. Not only does this help you, I also get wonderfully reminded of IE too. Katcha IEing since March 2007 > > I did the bad thing this morning..... stepped on the scale. > > This came about because my husband told me last night he's joined WW online. So I thought.... how much *do* I weigh, anyway? I'm only 2 pounds over my wake-up call number but I'm having thoughts of, " He's going to be following WW, maybe I should do it with him.... " Two pounds over my wake-up call is 12 pounds over the weight I like and 17 pounds over my best athletic weight. See???? I'm counting, I'm obsessing on numbers. The last thing I need is to be counting " points " as well. Numbers drive me crazy. > > > I don't believe in restriction but I do not yet trust myself to let my innate wisdom take the lead; it's been suppressed so long by either diets or overeating. > > I just asked myself: Do I *want* to overeat? No, I don't. Well, why am I doing something I really don't want to do, when I have the choice to do it or not? Mostly it's the darn cookies. We live with my mother, who's 90, and she wants cookies. I'm not telling a 90-yr-old she can't have cookies just because I binge on them. She doesn't even eat that many. They disappear because I eat them all. > > > Maybe I should read the IE book after all. > > Ellie > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2012 Report Share Posted January 19, 2012 Ellie, I know just how you feel about wondering if you should go on another weight loss program. I've recently come off of counting calories and back to IE, but I can't seem to get myself under control either, where chocolate is concerned. Not only chocolate, but also high carb foods and I can feel my jeans getting tighter each day. I donated my "larger" jeans to a thrift store a couple of weeks ago, and I told my husband yesterday that I am now starting to have regrets about it, because my jeans are very snug now. I understand that initially I may gain a little weight with giving myself this "freedom" of no restrictions, but being out of control with certain foods is making me so nervous. I don't want to restrict anything, but having these things around is seeming impossible to avoid overdoing on. I gave my calorie counter book away recently, because like you, adding the numbers constantly drove me crazy and feeling so restricted really had me going on outrageous binges. But after stopping with the counting cals, I'm tending to overeat anyway, though I wouldn't call it true "binges", still I'm eating more than I should. The idea to start counting calories again has been strong the past couple of days, but I know the binges will start again, should I do that, the only thing preventing me from it. I could use some advice from others who have been in the same boat. How to we handle legalizing all foods, and yet not let those foods we crave so much overtake us? Ann This came about because my husband told me last night he's joined WW online. So I thought.... how much *do* I weigh, anyway? I'm only 2 pounds over my wake-up call number but I'm having thoughts of, "He's going to be following WW, maybe I should do it with him...." Two pounds over my wake-up call is 12 pounds over the weight I like and 17 pounds over my best athletic weight. See???? I'm counting, I'm obsessing on numbers. The last thing I need is to be counting "points" as well. Numbers drive me crazy. I don't believe in restriction but I do not yet trust myself to let my innate wisdom take the lead; it's been suppressed so long by either diets or overeating. I just asked myself: Do I *want* to overeat? No, I don't. Well, why am I doing something I really don't want to do, when I have the choice to do it or not? Mostly it's the darn cookies. We live with my mother, who's 90, and she wants cookies. I'm not telling a 90-yr-old she can't have cookies just because I binge on them. She doesn't even eat that many. They disappear because I eat them all. Maybe I should read the IE book after all. Ellie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2012 Report Share Posted January 19, 2012 Ellie, I know just how you feel about wondering if you should go on another weight loss program. I've recently come off of counting calories and back to IE, but I can't seem to get myself under control either, where chocolate is concerned. Not only chocolate, but also high carb foods and I can feel my jeans getting tighter each day. I donated my "larger" jeans to a thrift store a couple of weeks ago, and I told my husband yesterday that I am now starting to have regrets about it, because my jeans are very snug now. I understand that initially I may gain a little weight with giving myself this "freedom" of no restrictions, but being out of control with certain foods is making me so nervous. I don't want to restrict anything, but having these things around is seeming impossible to avoid overdoing on. I gave my calorie counter book away recently, because like you, adding the numbers constantly drove me crazy and feeling so restricted really had me going on outrageous binges. But after stopping with the counting cals, I'm tending to overeat anyway, though I wouldn't call it true "binges", still I'm eating more than I should. The idea to start counting calories again has been strong the past couple of days, but I know the binges will start again, should I do that, the only thing preventing me from it. I could use some advice from others who have been in the same boat. How to we handle legalizing all foods, and yet not let those foods we crave so much overtake us? Ann This came about because my husband told me last night he's joined WW online. So I thought.... how much *do* I weigh, anyway? I'm only 2 pounds over my wake-up call number but I'm having thoughts of, "He's going to be following WW, maybe I should do it with him...." Two pounds over my wake-up call is 12 pounds over the weight I like and 17 pounds over my best athletic weight. See???? I'm counting, I'm obsessing on numbers. The last thing I need is to be counting "points" as well. Numbers drive me crazy. I don't believe in restriction but I do not yet trust myself to let my innate wisdom take the lead; it's been suppressed so long by either diets or overeating. I just asked myself: Do I *want* to overeat? No, I don't. Well, why am I doing something I really don't want to do, when I have the choice to do it or not? Mostly it's the darn cookies. We live with my mother, who's 90, and she wants cookies. I'm not telling a 90-yr-old she can't have cookies just because I binge on them. She doesn't even eat that many. They disappear because I eat them all. Maybe I should read the IE book after all. Ellie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2012 Report Share Posted January 19, 2012 Ellie, I know just how you feel about wondering if you should go on another weight loss program. I've recently come off of counting calories and back to IE, but I can't seem to get myself under control either, where chocolate is concerned. Not only chocolate, but also high carb foods and I can feel my jeans getting tighter each day. I donated my "larger" jeans to a thrift store a couple of weeks ago, and I told my husband yesterday that I am now starting to have regrets about it, because my jeans are very snug now. I understand that initially I may gain a little weight with giving myself this "freedom" of no restrictions, but being out of control with certain foods is making me so nervous. I don't want to restrict anything, but having these things around is seeming impossible to avoid overdoing on. I gave my calorie counter book away recently, because like you, adding the numbers constantly drove me crazy and feeling so restricted really had me going on outrageous binges. But after stopping with the counting cals, I'm tending to overeat anyway, though I wouldn't call it true "binges", still I'm eating more than I should. The idea to start counting calories again has been strong the past couple of days, but I know the binges will start again, should I do that, the only thing preventing me from it. I could use some advice from others who have been in the same boat. How to we handle legalizing all foods, and yet not let those foods we crave so much overtake us? Ann This came about because my husband told me last night he's joined WW online. So I thought.... how much *do* I weigh, anyway? I'm only 2 pounds over my wake-up call number but I'm having thoughts of, "He's going to be following WW, maybe I should do it with him...." Two pounds over my wake-up call is 12 pounds over the weight I like and 17 pounds over my best athletic weight. See???? I'm counting, I'm obsessing on numbers. The last thing I need is to be counting "points" as well. Numbers drive me crazy. I don't believe in restriction but I do not yet trust myself to let my innate wisdom take the lead; it's been suppressed so long by either diets or overeating. I just asked myself: Do I *want* to overeat? No, I don't. Well, why am I doing something I really don't want to do, when I have the choice to do it or not? Mostly it's the darn cookies. We live with my mother, who's 90, and she wants cookies. I'm not telling a 90-yr-old she can't have cookies just because I binge on them. She doesn't even eat that many. They disappear because I eat them all. Maybe I should read the IE book after all. Ellie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2012 Report Share Posted January 19, 2012 It was an AT tendon injury that made me stop running finally, which has also probably contributed to my continued weight gain (but I have NOT stepped on the scale to find out). After three months of not running (but walking regularly), I think I am ready to start again, but I am going to start very very very slowly, because I don't want to trash my heels again. As far as the cookies go, I have been finding that actually having them in the house has really decreased my interest in them. But they have to be really really good ones. I started baking again in the name of making peace with food, and a ally interesting side benefit is that besides descreasing my interest in the food I am making available, I have also become far less interested in other foods I had previously labelled as " bad " . I had had a similar problem with corn chips, which my boys like to have around for making nachos or eating with bean dip that they make themselves, or guacamole, but every time I would go through the kitchen, I would have a handful, just like you say. Well, I don't do that anymore, not because I have told myself that I shouldn't, which I was always doing before, but because it doesn't occur to me. Or if it does, I can ask myself if I really want them, and I usually don't. I have also had Hershey's kisses, and butterscotch chips, and even homemade cookies around, and it is ally really nice to have one as a treat, but if I am hungry, then no, I don't want anything like that. Good luck with the heel! Tilley > > > > > >> > >>I did the bad thing this morning..... stepped on the scale. > >> > >> > >>This came about because my husband told me last night he's joined WW online. So I thought.... how much *do* I weigh, anyway? I'm only 2 pounds over my wake-up call number but I'm having thoughts of, " He's going to be following WW, maybe I should do it with him.... " Two pounds over my wake-up call is 12 pounds over the weight I like and 17 pounds over my best athletic weight. See???? I'm counting, I'm obsessing on numbers. The last thing I need is to be counting " points " as well. Numbers drive me crazy. > >> > >> > >> > >>I don't believe in restriction but I do not yet trust myself to let my innate wisdom take the lead; it's been suppressed so long by either diets or overeating. > >> > >> > >>I just asked myself: Do I *want* to overeat? No, I don't. Well, why am I doing something I really don't want to do, when I have the choice to do it or not? Mostly it's the darn cookies. We live with my mother, who's 90, and she wants cookies. I'm not telling a 90-yr-old she can't have cookies just because I binge on them. She doesn't even eat that many. They disappear because I eat them all. > >> > >> > >> > >>Maybe I should read the IE book after all. > >> > >> > >>Ellie > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2012 Report Share Posted January 19, 2012 It was an AT tendon injury that made me stop running finally, which has also probably contributed to my continued weight gain (but I have NOT stepped on the scale to find out). After three months of not running (but walking regularly), I think I am ready to start again, but I am going to start very very very slowly, because I don't want to trash my heels again. As far as the cookies go, I have been finding that actually having them in the house has really decreased my interest in them. But they have to be really really good ones. I started baking again in the name of making peace with food, and a ally interesting side benefit is that besides descreasing my interest in the food I am making available, I have also become far less interested in other foods I had previously labelled as " bad " . I had had a similar problem with corn chips, which my boys like to have around for making nachos or eating with bean dip that they make themselves, or guacamole, but every time I would go through the kitchen, I would have a handful, just like you say. Well, I don't do that anymore, not because I have told myself that I shouldn't, which I was always doing before, but because it doesn't occur to me. Or if it does, I can ask myself if I really want them, and I usually don't. I have also had Hershey's kisses, and butterscotch chips, and even homemade cookies around, and it is ally really nice to have one as a treat, but if I am hungry, then no, I don't want anything like that. Good luck with the heel! Tilley > > > > > >> > >>I did the bad thing this morning..... stepped on the scale. > >> > >> > >>This came about because my husband told me last night he's joined WW online. So I thought.... how much *do* I weigh, anyway? I'm only 2 pounds over my wake-up call number but I'm having thoughts of, " He's going to be following WW, maybe I should do it with him.... " Two pounds over my wake-up call is 12 pounds over the weight I like and 17 pounds over my best athletic weight. See???? I'm counting, I'm obsessing on numbers. The last thing I need is to be counting " points " as well. Numbers drive me crazy. > >> > >> > >> > >>I don't believe in restriction but I do not yet trust myself to let my innate wisdom take the lead; it's been suppressed so long by either diets or overeating. > >> > >> > >>I just asked myself: Do I *want* to overeat? No, I don't. Well, why am I doing something I really don't want to do, when I have the choice to do it or not? Mostly it's the darn cookies. We live with my mother, who's 90, and she wants cookies. I'm not telling a 90-yr-old she can't have cookies just because I binge on them. She doesn't even eat that many. They disappear because I eat them all. > >> > >> > >> > >>Maybe I should read the IE book after all. > >> > >> > >>Ellie > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2012 Report Share Posted January 19, 2012 Ann, a little thing, but big help for me was to hear Gillian (group owner & IE coach) share that she prefers to being in CHARGE over being in 'control'. In charge places all the decision power in YOUR hands while in control hawks back to forcing yourself to do X. I have a strong negative reaction to being forced to do things so trying to tag that need upon myself ALWAYS back fires and causes mega rebellion in me. Chocolate was my main 'adversary' when I decided to tackle legalizing. I ate it, LOTS of it! First in a rather 'defiant' out-in-the-open, in-YOUR (who's really? mine or the worlds?!?) - face mode. My inner rebel had a field day but also was long pestered by diet mentality gremlins alllll the way. I thought I bought LOTS each week to 'stock up', but it was all gone by the time I returned to the store for more. This went on for months (I'm slow to believe/trust?) until I FINALLY got to where I had NO interest in eating chocolate. Chocolate remains a 'darling' of mine, but I don't have the love-hate relationship with it that I used to have. Now its simply something that I indulge in when I get a craving for it and have no interest in other times. And I'm also much more picky about it too. One thing remains the same for me - if I try to resist it, I am immediately focused on it. Tossing a 'crumb' at my beast works so much better for me than to dragon slay without heart. BEST to you as you tackle your demons. Don't forget - you are mighty! :-) Katcha IEing since March 2007 > > Ellie, I know just how you feel about wondering if you should go on another weight loss program. I've recently come off of counting calories and back to IE, but I can't seem to get myself under control either, where chocolate is concerned. Not only chocolate, but also high carb foods and I can feel my jeans getting tighter each day. I donated my " larger " jeans to a thrift store a couple of weeks ago, and I told my husband yesterday that I am now starting to have regrets about it, because my jeans are very snug now. I understand that initially I may gain a little weight with giving myself this " freedom " of no restrictions, but being out of control with certain foods is making me so nervous. I don't want to restrict anything, but having these things around is seeming impossible to avoid overdoing on. >  > I gave my calorie counter book away recently, because like you, adding the numbers constantly drove me crazy and feeling so restricted really had me going on outrageous binges. But after stopping with the counting cals, I'm tending to overeat anyway, though I wouldn't call it true " binges " , still I'm eating more than I should. The idea to start counting calories again has been strong the past couple of days, but I know the binges will start again, should I do that, the only thing preventing me from it. >  > I could use some advice from others who have been in the same boat. How to we handle legalizing all foods, and yet not let those foods we crave so much overtake us? >  > Ann > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2012 Report Share Posted January 19, 2012 I think that with IE the goal is not exactly " control " but awareness. I had given away all of my bigger clothes too--about eight years ago--but when my pants got too tight, I did go out and get some that fit. It makes a huge difference how I feel to have clothes that actually fit, and if they a several sizes bigger than what I wore before, so be it. I fell better wearing bigger clothes than wearing clothes that are too tight. I think that what IE suggests you might have to do with chocolate is to make peace with it--to allow yourself to have it, as much as you would like, whenever you are hungry, but to pay attention to how you feel as you eat it, and before you eat it, and after y ou eat it. If it is always something forbidden, then it will always have power over you. I have really found that compulsion abating as I have allowed myself to eat those things that I have previously felt powerless around. Okay, yes, I have eaten more that I would have liked of them at times, but then, when that was done, it really seemed to be done, and I could not worry bout it, or even think about it, which is really really liberating.... Good luck! Tilley > > Ellie, I know just how you feel about wondering if you should go on another weight loss program. I've recently come off of counting calories and back to IE, but I can't seem to get myself under control either, where chocolate is concerned. Not only chocolate, but also high carb foods and I can feel my jeans getting tighter each day. I donated my " larger " jeans to a thrift store a couple of weeks ago, and I told my husband yesterday that I am now starting to have regrets about it, because my jeans are very snug now. I understand that initially I may gain a little weight with giving myself this " freedom " of no restrictions, but being out of control with certain foods is making me so nervous. I don't want to restrict anything, but having these things around is seeming impossible to avoid overdoing on. >  > I gave my calorie counter book away recently, because like you, adding the numbers constantly drove me crazy and feeling so restricted really had me going on outrageous binges. But after stopping with the counting cals, I'm tending to overeat anyway, though I wouldn't call it true " binges " , still I'm eating more than I should. The idea to start counting calories again has been strong the past couple of days, but I know the binges will start again, should I do that, the only thing preventing me from it. >  > I could use some advice from others who have been in the same boat. How to we handle legalizing all foods, and yet not let those foods we crave so much overtake us? >  > Ann > > > ________________________________ >  > > > > >________________________________ > > >  > > > >> > >>This came about because my husband told me last night he's joined WW online. So I thought.... how much *do* I weigh, anyway? I'm only 2 pounds over my wake-up call number but I'm having thoughts of, " He's going to be following WW, maybe I should do it with him.... " Two pounds over my wake-up call is 12 pounds over the weight I like and 17 pounds over my best athletic weight. See???? I'm counting, I'm obsessing on numbers. The last thing I need is to be counting " points " as well. Numbers drive me crazy. > >> > >> > >> > >>I don't believe in restriction but I do not yet trust myself to let my innate wisdom take the lead; it's been suppressed so long by either diets or overeating. > >> > >> > >>I just asked myself: Do I *want* to overeat? No, I don't. Well, why am I doing something I really don't want to do, when I have the choice to do it or not? Mostly it's the darn cookies. We live with my mother, who's 90, and she wants cookies. I'm not telling a 90-yr-old she can't have cookies just because I binge on them. She doesn't even eat that many. They disappear because I eat them all. > >> > >> > >> > >>Maybe I should read the IE book after all. > >> > >> > >>Ellie > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2012 Report Share Posted January 19, 2012 Tilley, what I found helped me to not graze on see-food, especially cookies I'd made, was to package these in zip lock bags and place them in my freezer. That way I wasn't as triggered to 'grab' one just because they were there (and going stale - ha ha). If I wanted some, they were easily available in my freezer. But I also got a bit of a kick out of finding some in the freezer that I had forgotten about. Those I would have eaten just because I saw them and not because I wanted them - enough to get them from the freezer. I didn't do this with 'tricking' myself in mind, only as an added 'step' which helped me become more conscious with my eating. It worked for me but might not suit another. Katcha IEing since March 2007 > > > > > > > > >> > > >>I did the bad thing this morning..... stepped on the scale. > > >> > > >> > > >>This came about because my husband told me last night he's joined WW online. So I thought.... how much *do* I weigh, anyway? I'm only 2 pounds over my wake-up call number but I'm having thoughts of, " He's going to be following WW, maybe I should do it with him.... " Two pounds over my wake-up call is 12 pounds over the weight I like and 17 pounds over my best athletic weight. See???? I'm counting, I'm obsessing on numbers. The last thing I need is to be counting " points " as well. Numbers drive me crazy. > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >>I don't believe in restriction but I do not yet trust myself to let my innate wisdom take the lead; it's been suppressed so long by either diets or overeating. > > >> > > >> > > >>I just asked myself: Do I *want* to overeat? No, I don't. Well, why am I doing something I really don't want to do, when I have the choice to do it or not? Mostly it's the darn cookies. We live with my mother, who's 90, and she wants cookies. I'm not telling a 90-yr-old she can't have cookies just because I binge on them. She doesn't even eat that many. They disappear because I eat them all. > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >>Maybe I should read the IE book after all. > > >> > > >> > > >>Ellie > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2012 Report Share Posted January 19, 2012 Tilley, what I found helped me to not graze on see-food, especially cookies I'd made, was to package these in zip lock bags and place them in my freezer. That way I wasn't as triggered to 'grab' one just because they were there (and going stale - ha ha). If I wanted some, they were easily available in my freezer. But I also got a bit of a kick out of finding some in the freezer that I had forgotten about. Those I would have eaten just because I saw them and not because I wanted them - enough to get them from the freezer. I didn't do this with 'tricking' myself in mind, only as an added 'step' which helped me become more conscious with my eating. It worked for me but might not suit another. Katcha IEing since March 2007 > > > > > > > > >> > > >>I did the bad thing this morning..... stepped on the scale. > > >> > > >> > > >>This came about because my husband told me last night he's joined WW online. So I thought.... how much *do* I weigh, anyway? I'm only 2 pounds over my wake-up call number but I'm having thoughts of, " He's going to be following WW, maybe I should do it with him.... " Two pounds over my wake-up call is 12 pounds over the weight I like and 17 pounds over my best athletic weight. See???? I'm counting, I'm obsessing on numbers. The last thing I need is to be counting " points " as well. Numbers drive me crazy. > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >>I don't believe in restriction but I do not yet trust myself to let my innate wisdom take the lead; it's been suppressed so long by either diets or overeating. > > >> > > >> > > >>I just asked myself: Do I *want* to overeat? No, I don't. Well, why am I doing something I really don't want to do, when I have the choice to do it or not? Mostly it's the darn cookies. We live with my mother, who's 90, and she wants cookies. I'm not telling a 90-yr-old she can't have cookies just because I binge on them. She doesn't even eat that many. They disappear because I eat them all. > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >>Maybe I should read the IE book after all. > > >> > > >> > > >>Ellie > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2012 Report Share Posted January 19, 2012 Tilley, what I found helped me to not graze on see-food, especially cookies I'd made, was to package these in zip lock bags and place them in my freezer. That way I wasn't as triggered to 'grab' one just because they were there (and going stale - ha ha). If I wanted some, they were easily available in my freezer. But I also got a bit of a kick out of finding some in the freezer that I had forgotten about. Those I would have eaten just because I saw them and not because I wanted them - enough to get them from the freezer. I didn't do this with 'tricking' myself in mind, only as an added 'step' which helped me become more conscious with my eating. It worked for me but might not suit another. Katcha IEing since March 2007 > > > > > > > > >> > > >>I did the bad thing this morning..... stepped on the scale. > > >> > > >> > > >>This came about because my husband told me last night he's joined WW online. So I thought.... how much *do* I weigh, anyway? I'm only 2 pounds over my wake-up call number but I'm having thoughts of, " He's going to be following WW, maybe I should do it with him.... " Two pounds over my wake-up call is 12 pounds over the weight I like and 17 pounds over my best athletic weight. See???? I'm counting, I'm obsessing on numbers. The last thing I need is to be counting " points " as well. Numbers drive me crazy. > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >>I don't believe in restriction but I do not yet trust myself to let my innate wisdom take the lead; it's been suppressed so long by either diets or overeating. > > >> > > >> > > >>I just asked myself: Do I *want* to overeat? No, I don't. Well, why am I doing something I really don't want to do, when I have the choice to do it or not? Mostly it's the darn cookies. We live with my mother, who's 90, and she wants cookies. I'm not telling a 90-yr-old she can't have cookies just because I binge on them. She doesn't even eat that many. They disappear because I eat them all. > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >>Maybe I should read the IE book after all. > > >> > > >> > > >>Ellie > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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