Re: BUMP to Val: Some input on latest labs please.

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January 7, 2010

SHirley I agree you would do well with testosterone and estrogen too,

btu you DO need to test and treat progesterone if oyu are going to take

estrogen and stil have a uterus. If you have no uterus, I htink the risk

is minimal to take estrogen alone. I think testosterone would help heal

your adrenals as it strengthens muscles and supports healthy glucose

etabolism which we all need with weak adrenals. I also think a bit more

T3 would not hurt a thing but do watch your poulse does not get too high.

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January 7, 2010

SHirley I agree you would do well with testosterone and estrogen too,

btu you DO need to test and treat progesterone if oyu are going to take

estrogen and stil have a uterus. If you have no uterus, I htink the risk

is minimal to take estrogen alone. I think testosterone would help heal

your adrenals as it strengthens muscles and supports healthy glucose

etabolism which we all need with weak adrenals. I also think a bit more

T3 would not hurt a thing but do watch your poulse does not get too high.

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January 7, 2010

Thank you Val! I will have the progesterone tested on my next round. I just

couldn't find a " package " that was affordable and actually included everything I

wanted tested. The combo offered for 59.99 included everything I wanted but

FT3, Lipids and Testosterone...those 3 bumped the cost over $200. I will shoot

for more labs in a couple of weeks. I had CBC, CMP, electrolytes, most of the

sex hormones, lipids, TSH, FT4 & FT3. Do you suggest anything other than

progesterone? I am still undecided about the leptin test, but that's another

group.

Again, thank you!! You and this group truly gave me my life back, now I'd like

to give my hubby his :-).

>

> SHirley I agree you would do well with testosterone and estrogen too,

> btu you DO need to test and treat progesterone if oyu are going to take

> estrogen and stil have a uterus. If you have no uterus, I htink the risk

> is minimal to take estrogen alone. I think testosterone would help heal

> your adrenals as it strengthens muscles and supports healthy glucose

> etabolism which we all need with weak adrenals. I also think a bit more

> T3 would not hurt a thing but do watch your poulse does not get too high.

>

> --

> Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV

>

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

>

>

January 7, 2010

Thank you Val! I will have the progesterone tested on my next round. I just

couldn't find a " package " that was affordable and actually included everything I

wanted tested. The combo offered for 59.99 included everything I wanted but

FT3, Lipids and Testosterone...those 3 bumped the cost over $200. I will shoot

for more labs in a couple of weeks. I had CBC, CMP, electrolytes, most of the

sex hormones, lipids, TSH, FT4 & FT3. Do you suggest anything other than

progesterone? I am still undecided about the leptin test, but that's another

group.

Again, thank you!! You and this group truly gave me my life back, now I'd like

to give my hubby his :-).

>

> SHirley I agree you would do well with testosterone and estrogen too,

> btu you DO need to test and treat progesterone if oyu are going to take

> estrogen and stil have a uterus. If you have no uterus, I htink the risk

> is minimal to take estrogen alone. I think testosterone would help heal

> your adrenals as it strengthens muscles and supports healthy glucose

> etabolism which we all need with weak adrenals. I also think a bit more

> T3 would not hurt a thing but do watch your poulse does not get too high.

>

> --

> Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV

>

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

>

>

January 7, 2010

Thank you Val! I will have the progesterone tested on my next round. I just

couldn't find a " package " that was affordable and actually included everything I

wanted tested. The combo offered for 59.99 included everything I wanted but

FT3, Lipids and Testosterone...those 3 bumped the cost over $200. I will shoot

for more labs in a couple of weeks. I had CBC, CMP, electrolytes, most of the

sex hormones, lipids, TSH, FT4 & FT3. Do you suggest anything other than

progesterone? I am still undecided about the leptin test, but that's another

group.

Again, thank you!! You and this group truly gave me my life back, now I'd like

to give my hubby his :-).

>

> SHirley I agree you would do well with testosterone and estrogen too,

> btu you DO need to test and treat progesterone if oyu are going to take

> estrogen and stil have a uterus. If you have no uterus, I htink the risk

> is minimal to take estrogen alone. I think testosterone would help heal

> your adrenals as it strengthens muscles and supports healthy glucose

> etabolism which we all need with weak adrenals. I also think a bit more

> T3 would not hurt a thing but do watch your poulse does not get too high.

>

> --

> Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV

>

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

>

>

January 7, 2010

Thank you! I will be shopping for testosterone gel online! I will have

progesterone tested as soon as this artic front moves past us.

I take 25 mg. HC daily. I have been on it since May, and would love to wean

off, but as soon as I try to reduce, I get the horrid ringing in my ears and

irritability. We are dealing with verrrry cold weather right now, so I assume

that stress causes an increase in the need for T3 and HC.

I truly do appreciate your input.

Shirley

> > >

> > > I had labs done 1/5 and would just like some input from Nick or Val, or

anyone that is further along this trek than I am. I could not afford to do

everything that I did nearly a year ago and since I am flying solo, I did what I

thought would give me a good overall picture. My saliva cortils a year ago were

all on the low side of normal, but when I started on cynomel in June, I didn't

do well until I started on HC. I am taking 100 mg cynomel and 25 mg HC daily;

each in 4 doses. I went off lipitor about 16 months ago.

> > >

> > > I won't list all my labs, just the abnormals and ones I have questions

about. I did CBC and BMP, all normal except a couple of liver enzymes. My doses

are:

> > > T3 HC

> > > 8am 37.5 10

> > > noon 25 5

> > > 4pm 25 5

> > > 9-11pm 12.5 5

> > >

> > > Abnormals are:

> > >

> > > Alkaline phosphatase 175 range 25-150

> > > ALT 52 range 0-40

> > >

> > > LDL 256 range 100-199

> > > LDL Calc 169 range 0-99 These are better than

> > > LDL/HDL ratio 2.9 range 0.0-3.2 when I was on Lipitor.

> > >

> > > TSH 0.014 range 0.45-4.50

> > > FT4 0.05 range 0.82-1.77

> > > FT3 5.6 range 2.0-4.4

> > >

> > > Cortisol,

> > > total serum 8.0 range 2.3-19.4

> > >

> > > Estradiol <6pg/ml That's below even postmenopausal

> > > and girls under 10 years.

> > > LH and FSH were in the mid to low postmenopausal ranges

> > > Testosterone 17 range 6-82

> > >

> > > I did not do RT3 or saliva Cortisols or progesterone....mainly because

this combo was the best I could afford.

> > >

> > > I tried to wean down on HC, but became super, super irritable and Val said

my adrenals weren't ready yet. I still have some hypo symptoms, but am much

better than I was at the onset of this T3/HC treatment regimen. Can I increase

my T3 to 125? Since my total cortisol is mid range I think I should be able to

tolerate an increase.

> > >

> > > And, is it ok at this point to consider testosterone? My dear husband has

been an angel for our two years together, but it would be nice to have an

interest in sex. I'm only 53, too young to be this durn old.

> > >

> > > Thank you, thank you, thank you in advance for any suggestions.

> > > Shirley

> > >

> >

>

January 7, 2010

Do you recommend a particular brand of testosterone? I typically shop at Iherb,

but I am always open to new sources.

>

> SHirley I agree you would do well with testosterone and estrogen too,

> btu you DO need to test and treat progesterone if oyu are going to take

> estrogen and stil have a uterus. If you have no uterus, I htink the risk

> is minimal to take estrogen alone. I think testosterone would help heal

> your adrenals as it strengthens muscles and supports healthy glucose

> etabolism which we all need with weak adrenals. I also think a bit more

> T3 would not hurt a thing but do watch your poulse does not get too high.

>

> --

> Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV

>

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

>

>

January 7, 2010

I wasnt aware that you can get testosterone w/o perscription. Also my levels never rose after taking the creme for 6 months...does anyone know of a better method?

Subject: Re: BUMP to Val: Some input on latest labs please.To: RT3_T3 Date: Thursday, January 7, 2010, 1:32 PM

Thank you! I will be shopping for testosterone gel online! I will have progesterone tested as soon as this artic front moves past us.I take 25 mg. HC daily. I have been on it since May, and would love to wean off, but as soon as I try to reduce, I get the horrid ringing in my ears and irritability. We are dealing with verrrry cold weather right now, so I assume that stress causes an increase in the need for T3 and HC. I truly do appreciate your input.Shirley > > >> > > I had labs done 1/5 and would just like some input from Nick or Val, or anyone that is further along this trek than I am. I could not afford to do everything that I did nearly a year ago and since I am flying solo, I did what I thought would give me a good overall picture. My saliva cortils a year ago were all on the low side of normal, but when I

started on cynomel in June, I didn't do well until I started on HC. I am taking 100 mg cynomel and 25 mg HC daily; each in 4 doses. I went off lipitor about 16 months ago.> > > > > > I won't list all my labs, just the abnormals and ones I have questions about. I did CBC and BMP, all normal except a couple of liver enzymes. My doses are:> > > T3 HC> > > 8am 37.5 10> > > noon 25 5> > > 4pm 25 5> > > 9-11pm 12.5 5> > > > > > > > > Abnormals are:> > > > > > Alkaline phosphatase 175 range

25-150> > > ALT 52 range 0-40> > > > > > LDL 256 range 100-199> > > LDL Calc 169 range 0-99 These are better than> > > LDL/HDL ratio 2.9 range 0.0-3.2 when I was on Lipitor.> > > > > > TSH 0.014 range 0.45-4.50> > > FT4 0.05 range 0.82-1.77> > > FT3 5.6 range 2.0-4.4> > > > > >

Cortisol,> > > total serum 8.0 range 2.3-19.4> > > > > > Estradiol <6pg/ml That's below even postmenopausal> > > and girls under 10 years.> > > LH and FSH were in the mid to low postmenopausal ranges> > > Testosterone 17 range 6-82> > > > > > I did not do RT3 or saliva Cortisols or progesterone....mainly because this combo was the best I could afford.> > > > > > I tried to wean down on HC, but became super, super irritable and Val said my adrenals weren't ready yet. I still have some hypo symptoms, but am much better than I

was at the onset of this T3/HC treatment regimen. Can I increase my T3 to 125? Since my total cortisol is mid range I think I should be able to tolerate an increase.> > > > > > And, is it ok at this point to consider testosterone? My dear husband has been an angel for our two years together, but it would be nice to have an interest in sex. I'm only 53, too young to be this durn old.> > > > > > Thank you, thank you, thank you in advance for any suggestions.> > > Shirley> > >> >>------------------------------------

January 7, 2010

I wasnt aware that you can get testosterone w/o perscription. Also my levels never rose after taking the creme for 6 months...does anyone know of a better method?

Subject: Re: BUMP to Val: Some input on latest labs please.To: RT3_T3 Date: Thursday, January 7, 2010, 1:32 PM

Thank you! I will be shopping for testosterone gel online! I will have progesterone tested as soon as this artic front moves past us.I take 25 mg. HC daily. I have been on it since May, and would love to wean off, but as soon as I try to reduce, I get the horrid ringing in my ears and irritability. We are dealing with verrrry cold weather right now, so I assume that stress causes an increase in the need for T3 and HC. I truly do appreciate your input.Shirley > > >> > > I had labs done 1/5 and would just like some input from Nick or Val, or anyone that is further along this trek than I am. I could not afford to do everything that I did nearly a year ago and since I am flying solo, I did what I thought would give me a good overall picture. My saliva cortils a year ago were all on the low side of normal, but when I

started on cynomel in June, I didn't do well until I started on HC. I am taking 100 mg cynomel and 25 mg HC daily; each in 4 doses. I went off lipitor about 16 months ago.> > > > > > I won't list all my labs, just the abnormals and ones I have questions about. I did CBC and BMP, all normal except a couple of liver enzymes. My doses are:> > > T3 HC> > > 8am 37.5 10> > > noon 25 5> > > 4pm 25 5> > > 9-11pm 12.5 5> > > > > > > > > Abnormals are:> > > > > > Alkaline phosphatase 175 range

25-150> > > ALT 52 range 0-40> > > > > > LDL 256 range 100-199> > > LDL Calc 169 range 0-99 These are better than> > > LDL/HDL ratio 2.9 range 0.0-3.2 when I was on Lipitor.> > > > > > TSH 0.014 range 0.45-4.50> > > FT4 0.05 range 0.82-1.77> > > FT3 5.6 range 2.0-4.4> > > > > >

Cortisol,> > > total serum 8.0 range 2.3-19.4> > > > > > Estradiol <6pg/ml That's below even postmenopausal> > > and girls under 10 years.> > > LH and FSH were in the mid to low postmenopausal ranges> > > Testosterone 17 range 6-82> > > > > > I did not do RT3 or saliva Cortisols or progesterone....mainly because this combo was the best I could afford.> > > > > > I tried to wean down on HC, but became super, super irritable and Val said my adrenals weren't ready yet. I still have some hypo symptoms, but am much better than I

was at the onset of this T3/HC treatment regimen. Can I increase my T3 to 125? Since my total cortisol is mid range I think I should be able to tolerate an increase.> > > > > > And, is it ok at this point to consider testosterone? My dear husband has been an angel for our two years together, but it would be nice to have an interest in sex. I'm only 53, too young to be this durn old.> > > > > > Thank you, thank you, thank you in advance for any suggestions.> > > Shirley> > >> >>------------------------------------

January 7, 2010

Maybe ferritin.

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January 7, 2010

Maybe ferritin.

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January 7, 2010

Testosterone usually requires a script as it si a controlled substance,

btu you may find a body builder site selling it.

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January 7, 2010

Testosterone usually requires a script as it si a controlled substance,

btu you may find a body builder site selling it.

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