Guest guest Posted January 20, 2012 Report Share Posted January 20, 2012 I think distracting yourself is FINE and good... but denying yourself if you still really want it... just saying no, no matter what... can sometimes backfire and lead to binging. But you know... life is the dress rehearsal. So try it and see how it feels! And let us know! I meant snacking while COOKING.... > > > > Suppose I feel on a tightrope ready to fall off into a cookie binge. And it's a pretty sure thing that hot coffee with milk will suppress the cookie urge. Does that sound like restriction ( " If you crave cookies, try a cup of coffee instead to save calories " ) or intuition ( " Coffee will be good, I'll enjoy it, and afterwards I probably won't want cookies anymore " )? > > > > I'm not trying to figure out " the rules, " just trying to figure out where my mind's at. Of course I'm the only one who can figure that out, but what's your collective take on it? > > > > Ellie > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 20, 2012 Report Share Posted January 20, 2012 I think distracting yourself is FINE and good... but denying yourself if you still really want it... just saying no, no matter what... can sometimes backfire and lead to binging. But you know... life is the dress rehearsal. So try it and see how it feels! And let us know! I meant snacking while COOKING.... > > > > Suppose I feel on a tightrope ready to fall off into a cookie binge. And it's a pretty sure thing that hot coffee with milk will suppress the cookie urge. Does that sound like restriction ( " If you crave cookies, try a cup of coffee instead to save calories " ) or intuition ( " Coffee will be good, I'll enjoy it, and afterwards I probably won't want cookies anymore " )? > > > > I'm not trying to figure out " the rules, " just trying to figure out where my mind's at. Of course I'm the only one who can figure that out, but what's your collective take on it? > > > > Ellie > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 20, 2012 Report Share Posted January 20, 2012 I think distracting yourself is FINE and good... but denying yourself if you still really want it... just saying no, no matter what... can sometimes backfire and lead to binging. But you know... life is the dress rehearsal. So try it and see how it feels! And let us know! I meant snacking while COOKING.... > > > > Suppose I feel on a tightrope ready to fall off into a cookie binge. And it's a pretty sure thing that hot coffee with milk will suppress the cookie urge. Does that sound like restriction ( " If you crave cookies, try a cup of coffee instead to save calories " ) or intuition ( " Coffee will be good, I'll enjoy it, and afterwards I probably won't want cookies anymore " )? > > > > I'm not trying to figure out " the rules, " just trying to figure out where my mind's at. Of course I'm the only one who can figure that out, but what's your collective take on it? > > > > Ellie > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 21, 2012 Report Share Posted January 21, 2012 OK, girls, a few of you have asked what I ended up doing on the coffee-vs.-cookies question and how it worked.Actually, when I wrote, I was already working on the hot, milky coffee (1/2 coffee, 1/2 hot milk.) I rarely like sweet coffee (sweet coffee sounds to me like "jumbo shrimp," an oxymoron....) so just coffee & milk. It was good. I lost the need (?) for the cookies.Yes, it was a distraction, but it was a good one. It was hot and comforting and even nutritious. But I don't want to do what we used to do if the baby was crying but it wasn't "time" for her to be hungry: check diaper, is she too hot, too cold, bored, just wants to be held, even check clothing for scratchy tags, give her a pacifier, etc., etc., etc., until after all those interventions enough time had passed that yes, she really *could* be hungry. It was like feeding a crying baby was a last resort and we'd try everything else, anything else, first.But the hot milky (coincidence?) coffee did the trick. I'm going to do that some more. Ellie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 23, 2012 Report Share Posted January 23, 2012 I don't think it is a good idea to categorize food because with IE there are not any good or bad foods it just depends on if you eeat when you are truly hungry and stop when you get your fullness signal. Eva , I think this is a great strategy! I, too, have found that I can often make a healthy version of an unhealthy food and enjoy it even more because I don't have any food-hangover symptoms later. Win-win! I guess the key is not to make unsatisfying substitutions that leave you feeling deprived. When I truly want something that I would previously have categorized as a "cheat" food I'm going to remind myself that nothing is off-limits while at the same time focusing on how I want to feel physically afterwards...not overstuffed, not like I need a nap from the abundant quantity of food I just ate. Hopefully, this will help me find the right balance.>> If I can tell it's binge-worthy, I ALWAYS substitute and then try to figure out why I'm wanting to in the first place. I kind of view it as my "nicotene patch" to get thru the craving. If it's a genuine, hunger-based craving, I eat it--savoring each bite as much as possible--and am always surprised by how little of the item I'm actually wanting. (There was one nite that I thoroughly enjoyed some potato chips...you'll notice I said "chips"--as in plural, but here's what's astonishing--I ate TWO. I seriously wanted TWO potato chips, tho I think I made them into 8 savored bites. Then I realized I wanted a banana. How weird is that? And yet WONDERFUL to know I no longer feel the need to eat half the bag!)>  > Interestingly, I'm finding I have a different kind of craving which doesn't fall into either category, but that substituting works for in a BIG way. For instance, there are times when pizza sounds good--but not to the point that I'm craving genuine delivery-style from a restaurant. So I'll buy some large portobella mushroom tops, wash, remove the stems, and fill them w/ pizza sauce, part-skim mozzarella, turkey pepperoni and/or turkey sausage crumbles, and italian seasoning; bake in toaster ~15 min and BINGO--a healthy way to quell my pizza urge! What it means in the end is that 80% of the time when the cravings aren't for the authentic item itself, I can make a fairly healthy substitute work. Interestingly, this means that when I DO decide to order Pizza Hut, it tastes AMAZING instead of like something I had a week or two ago. It's really helped me in learning to tune into my cravings and gage when to indulge in the real thing!>  > > IE since Sep 2011> > > ________________________________> > To: "IntuitiveEating_Support " <IntuitiveEating_Support > > Sent: Friday, January 20, 2012 1:40 PM> Subject: Substituting?> > > >  > > Suppose I feel on a tightrope ready to fall off into a cookie binge. And it's a pretty sure thing that hot coffee with milk will suppress the cookie urge. Does that sound like restriction ("If you crave cookies, try a cup of coffee instead to save calories") or intuition ("Coffee will be good, I'll enjoy it, and afterwards I probably won't want cookies anymore")?> > I'm not trying to figure out "the rules," just trying to figure out where my mind's at. Of course I'm the only one who can figure that out, but what's your collective take on it?> > Ellie>------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2012 Report Share Posted January 24, 2012 Tilley, thanks for those ideas. I go to the buffet once a week with my friend, but everything is so salty. I am thirsty all day after that. Last week I decided that a good salad with oil and vinegar dressing and a piece of baked chicken would be good. Their soups I think might be 80% salt(exaggeration). They have this dessert that I really love and I am very grateful that they have been serving very small sizes. Sandy I made a lot of substitutions when I first started trying to limit salt in my diet because of an inner ear disorder. I didn't know about IE then, but too much salt made me dizzy, which was really unpleasant. What I was trying to do was find things that I liked that didn't have much salt in them, but what I came up with truly pleased me. I use garlic and lemon juice in just about everything, and I soon came to prefer that to heavily salted soups or stews. There s a lot of exciting seasoning mixes with no salt. A pot of chili tastes great with about a half teaspoon of salt and a little lemon juice, and smoky chipotle peppers. For my quesadillas, I mixed a little salsa (very salty) with balsamic vinegar--yum. I think it,s okay to think about health, but you have to keep what you LIKE in the forefront. One can do both. And then, a little chocolate torte never hurt anyone anyway. If I went to a potluck tomorrow that had cheesecake, I would probably have a slice of that (and perhaps nothing else). Tilley > > > > If I can tell it's binge-worthy, I ALWAYS substitute and then try to figure out why I'm wanting to in the first place. I kind of view it as my " nicotene patch " to get thru the craving. If it's a genuine, hunger-based craving, I eat it--savoring each bite as much as possible--and am always surprised by how little of the item I'm actually wanting. (There was one nite that I thoroughly enjoyed some potato chips...you'll notice I said " chips " --as in plural, but here's what's astonishing--I ate TWO. I seriously wanted TWO potato chips, tho I think I made them into 8 savored bites. Then I realized I wanted a banana. How weird is that? And yet WONDERFUL to know I no longer feel the need to eat half the bag!) > >  > > Interestingly, I'm finding I have a different kind of craving which doesn't fall into either category, but that substituting works for in a BIG way. For instance, there are times when pizza sounds good--but not to the point that I'm craving genuine delivery-style from a restaurant. So I'll buy some large portobella mushroom tops, wash, remove the stems, and fill them w/ pizza sauce, part-skim mozzarella, turkey pepperoni and/or turkey sausage crumbles, and italian seasoning; bake in toaster ~15 min and BINGO--a healthy way to quell my pizza urge! What it means in the end is that 80% of the time when the cravings aren't for the authentic item itself, I can make a fairly healthy substitute work. Interestingly, this means that when I DO decide to order Pizza Hut, it tastes AMAZING instead of like something I had a week or two ago. It's really helped me in learning to tune into my cravings and gage when to indulge in the real thing! > >  > > > > IE since Sep 2011 > > > > > > ________________________________ > > From: EHamilton <imagainst_the_wind@> > > To: " IntuitiveEating_Support " <IntuitiveEating_Support > > > Sent: Friday, January 20, 2012 1:40 PM > > Subject: Substituting? > > > > > > > >  > > > > Suppose I feel on a tightrope ready to fall off into a cookie binge. And it's a pretty sure thing that hot coffee with milk will suppress the cookie urge. Does that sound like restriction ( " If you crave cookies, try a cup of coffee instead to save calories " ) or intuition ( " Coffee will be good, I'll enjoy it, and afterwards I probably won't want cookies anymore " )? > > > > I'm not trying to figure out " the rules, " just trying to figure out where my mind's at. Of course I'm the only one who can figure that out, but what's your collective take on it? > > > > Ellie > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2012 Report Share Posted January 24, 2012 I get really thirsty like that after salt OR sugar. Does that happen to anyone else? I always wondered that.abby Tilley, thanks for those ideas. I go to the buffet once a week with my friend, but everything is so salty. I am thirsty all day after that. Last week I decided that a good salad with oil and vinegar dressing and a piece of baked chicken would be good. Their soups I think might be 80% salt(exaggeration). They have this dessert that I really love and I am very grateful that they have been serving very small sizes. Sandy I made a lot of substitutions when I first started trying to limit salt in my diet because of an inner ear disorder. I didn't know about IE then, but too much salt made me dizzy, which was really unpleasant. What I was trying to do was find things that I liked that didn't have much salt in them, but what I came up with truly pleased me. I use garlic and lemon juice in just about everything, and I soon came to prefer that to heavily salted soups or stews. There s a lot of exciting seasoning mixes with no salt. A pot of chili tastes great with about a half teaspoon of salt and a little lemon juice, and smoky chipotle peppers. For my quesadillas, I mixed a little salsa (very salty) with balsamic vinegar--yum. I think it,s okay to think about health, but you have to keep what you LIKE in the forefront. One can do both. And then, a little chocolate torte never hurt anyone anyway. If I went to a potluck tomorrow that had cheesecake, I would probably have a slice of that (and perhaps nothing else). Tilley > > > > If I can tell it's binge-worthy, I ALWAYS substitute and then try to figure out why I'm wanting to in the first place. I kind of view it as my " nicotene patch " to get thru the craving. If it's a genuine, hunger-based craving, I eat it--savoring each bite as much as possible--and am always surprised by how little of the item I'm actually wanting. (There was one nite that I thoroughly enjoyed some potato chips...you'll notice I said " chips " --as in plural, but here's what's astonishing--I ate TWO. I seriously wanted TWO potato chips, tho I think I made them into 8 savored bites. Then I realized I wanted a banana. How weird is that? And yet WONDERFUL to know I no longer feel the need to eat half the bag!) > >  > > Interestingly, I'm finding I have a different kind of craving which doesn't fall into either category, but that substituting works for in a BIG way. For instance, there are times when pizza sounds good--but not to the point that I'm craving genuine delivery-style from a restaurant. So I'll buy some large portobella mushroom tops, wash, remove the stems, and fill them w/ pizza sauce, part-skim mozzarella, turkey pepperoni and/or turkey sausage crumbles, and italian seasoning; bake in toaster ~15 min and BINGO--a healthy way to quell my pizza urge! What it means in the end is that 80% of the time when the cravings aren't for the authentic item itself, I can make a fairly healthy substitute work. Interestingly, this means that when I DO decide to order Pizza Hut, it tastes AMAZING instead of like something I had a week or two ago. It's really helped me in learning to tune into my cravings and gage when to indulge in the real thing! > >  > > > > IE since Sep 2011 > > > > > > ________________________________ > > From: EHamilton <imagainst_the_wind@> > > To: " IntuitiveEating_Support " <IntuitiveEating_Support > > > Sent: Friday, January 20, 2012 1:40 PM > > Subject: Substituting? > > > > > > > >  > > > > Suppose I feel on a tightrope ready to fall off into a cookie binge. And it's a pretty sure thing that hot coffee with milk will suppress the cookie urge. Does that sound like restriction ( " If you crave cookies, try a cup of coffee instead to save calories " ) or intuition ( " Coffee will be good, I'll enjoy it, and afterwards I probably won't want cookies anymore " )? > > > > I'm not trying to figure out " the rules, " just trying to figure out where my mind's at. Of course I'm the only one who can figure that out, but what's your collective take on it? > > > > Ellie > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2012 Report Share Posted January 24, 2012 I get really thirsty like that after salt OR sugar. Does that happen to anyone else? I always wondered that.abby Tilley, thanks for those ideas. I go to the buffet once a week with my friend, but everything is so salty. I am thirsty all day after that. Last week I decided that a good salad with oil and vinegar dressing and a piece of baked chicken would be good. Their soups I think might be 80% salt(exaggeration). They have this dessert that I really love and I am very grateful that they have been serving very small sizes. Sandy I made a lot of substitutions when I first started trying to limit salt in my diet because of an inner ear disorder. I didn't know about IE then, but too much salt made me dizzy, which was really unpleasant. What I was trying to do was find things that I liked that didn't have much salt in them, but what I came up with truly pleased me. I use garlic and lemon juice in just about everything, and I soon came to prefer that to heavily salted soups or stews. There s a lot of exciting seasoning mixes with no salt. A pot of chili tastes great with about a half teaspoon of salt and a little lemon juice, and smoky chipotle peppers. For my quesadillas, I mixed a little salsa (very salty) with balsamic vinegar--yum. I think it,s okay to think about health, but you have to keep what you LIKE in the forefront. One can do both. And then, a little chocolate torte never hurt anyone anyway. If I went to a potluck tomorrow that had cheesecake, I would probably have a slice of that (and perhaps nothing else). Tilley > > > > If I can tell it's binge-worthy, I ALWAYS substitute and then try to figure out why I'm wanting to in the first place. I kind of view it as my " nicotene patch " to get thru the craving. If it's a genuine, hunger-based craving, I eat it--savoring each bite as much as possible--and am always surprised by how little of the item I'm actually wanting. (There was one nite that I thoroughly enjoyed some potato chips...you'll notice I said " chips " --as in plural, but here's what's astonishing--I ate TWO. I seriously wanted TWO potato chips, tho I think I made them into 8 savored bites. Then I realized I wanted a banana. How weird is that? And yet WONDERFUL to know I no longer feel the need to eat half the bag!) > >  > > Interestingly, I'm finding I have a different kind of craving which doesn't fall into either category, but that substituting works for in a BIG way. For instance, there are times when pizza sounds good--but not to the point that I'm craving genuine delivery-style from a restaurant. So I'll buy some large portobella mushroom tops, wash, remove the stems, and fill them w/ pizza sauce, part-skim mozzarella, turkey pepperoni and/or turkey sausage crumbles, and italian seasoning; bake in toaster ~15 min and BINGO--a healthy way to quell my pizza urge! What it means in the end is that 80% of the time when the cravings aren't for the authentic item itself, I can make a fairly healthy substitute work. Interestingly, this means that when I DO decide to order Pizza Hut, it tastes AMAZING instead of like something I had a week or two ago. It's really helped me in learning to tune into my cravings and gage when to indulge in the real thing! > >  > > > > IE since Sep 2011 > > > > > > ________________________________ > > From: EHamilton <imagainst_the_wind@> > > To: " IntuitiveEating_Support " <IntuitiveEating_Support > > > Sent: Friday, January 20, 2012 1:40 PM > > Subject: Substituting? > > > > > > > >  > > > > Suppose I feel on a tightrope ready to fall off into a cookie binge. And it's a pretty sure thing that hot coffee with milk will suppress the cookie urge. Does that sound like restriction ( " If you crave cookies, try a cup of coffee instead to save calories " ) or intuition ( " Coffee will be good, I'll enjoy it, and afterwards I probably won't want cookies anymore " )? > > > > I'm not trying to figure out " the rules, " just trying to figure out where my mind's at. Of course I'm the only one who can figure that out, but what's your collective take on it? > > > > Ellie > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2012 Report Share Posted January 24, 2012 abby, I never noticed it with sugar, but will think about it. Sandy I get really thirsty like that after salt OR sugar. Does that happen to anyone else? I always wondered that.abby Tilley, thanks for those ideas. I go to the buffet once a week with my friend, but everything is so salty. I am thirsty all day after that. Last week I decided that a good salad with oil and vinegar dressing and a piece of baked chicken would be good. Their soups I think might be 80% salt(exaggeration). They have this dessert that I really love and I am very grateful that they have been serving very small sizes. Sandy I made a lot of substitutions when I first started trying to limit salt in my diet because of an inner ear disorder. I didn't know about IE then, but too much salt made me dizzy, which was really unpleasant. What I was trying to do was find things that I liked that didn't have much salt in them, but what I came up with truly pleased me. I use garlic and lemon juice in just about everything, and I soon came to prefer that to heavily salted soups or stews. There s a lot of exciting seasoning mixes with no salt. A pot of chili tastes great with about a half teaspoon of salt and a little lemon juice, and smoky chipotle peppers. For my quesadillas, I mixed a little salsa (very salty) with balsamic vinegar--yum. I think it,s okay to think about health, but you have to keep what you LIKE in the forefront. One can do both. And then, a little chocolate torte never hurt anyone anyway. If I went to a potluck tomorrow that had cheesecake, I would probably have a slice of that (and perhaps nothing else). Tilley > > > > If I can tell it's binge-worthy, I ALWAYS substitute and then try to figure out why I'm wanting to in the first place. I kind of view it as my " nicotene patch " to get thru the craving. If it's a genuine, hunger-based craving, I eat it--savoring each bite as much as possible--and am always surprised by how little of the item I'm actually wanting. (There was one nite that I thoroughly enjoyed some potato chips...you'll notice I said " chips " --as in plural, but here's what's astonishing--I ate TWO. I seriously wanted TWO potato chips, tho I think I made them into 8 savored bites. Then I realized I wanted a banana. How weird is that? And yet WONDERFUL to know I no longer feel the need to eat half the bag!) > >  > > Interestingly, I'm finding I have a different kind of craving which doesn't fall into either category, but that substituting works for in a BIG way. For instance, there are times when pizza sounds good--but not to the point that I'm craving genuine delivery-style from a restaurant. So I'll buy some large portobella mushroom tops, wash, remove the stems, and fill them w/ pizza sauce, part-skim mozzarella, turkey pepperoni and/or turkey sausage crumbles, and italian seasoning; bake in toaster ~15 min and BINGO--a healthy way to quell my pizza urge! What it means in the end is that 80% of the time when the cravings aren't for the authentic item itself, I can make a fairly healthy substitute work. Interestingly, this means that when I DO decide to order Pizza Hut, it tastes AMAZING instead of like something I had a week or two ago. It's really helped me in learning to tune into my cravings and gage when to indulge in the real thing! > >  > > > > IE since Sep 2011 > > > > > > ________________________________ > > From: EHamilton <imagainst_the_wind@> > > To: " IntuitiveEating_Support " <IntuitiveEating_Support > > > Sent: Friday, January 20, 2012 1:40 PM > > Subject: Substituting? > > > > > > > >  > > > > Suppose I feel on a tightrope ready to fall off into a cookie binge. And it's a pretty sure thing that hot coffee with milk will suppress the cookie urge. Does that sound like restriction ( " If you crave cookies, try a cup of coffee instead to save calories " ) or intuition ( " Coffee will be good, I'll enjoy it, and afterwards I probably won't want cookies anymore " )? > > > > I'm not trying to figure out " the rules, " just trying to figure out where my mind's at. Of course I'm the only one who can figure that out, but what's your collective take on it? > > > > Ellie > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2012 Report Share Posted January 24, 2012 abby, I never noticed it with sugar, but will think about it. Sandy I get really thirsty like that after salt OR sugar. Does that happen to anyone else? I always wondered that.abby Tilley, thanks for those ideas. I go to the buffet once a week with my friend, but everything is so salty. I am thirsty all day after that. Last week I decided that a good salad with oil and vinegar dressing and a piece of baked chicken would be good. Their soups I think might be 80% salt(exaggeration). They have this dessert that I really love and I am very grateful that they have been serving very small sizes. Sandy I made a lot of substitutions when I first started trying to limit salt in my diet because of an inner ear disorder. I didn't know about IE then, but too much salt made me dizzy, which was really unpleasant. What I was trying to do was find things that I liked that didn't have much salt in them, but what I came up with truly pleased me. I use garlic and lemon juice in just about everything, and I soon came to prefer that to heavily salted soups or stews. There s a lot of exciting seasoning mixes with no salt. A pot of chili tastes great with about a half teaspoon of salt and a little lemon juice, and smoky chipotle peppers. For my quesadillas, I mixed a little salsa (very salty) with balsamic vinegar--yum. I think it,s okay to think about health, but you have to keep what you LIKE in the forefront. One can do both. And then, a little chocolate torte never hurt anyone anyway. If I went to a potluck tomorrow that had cheesecake, I would probably have a slice of that (and perhaps nothing else). Tilley > > > > If I can tell it's binge-worthy, I ALWAYS substitute and then try to figure out why I'm wanting to in the first place. I kind of view it as my " nicotene patch " to get thru the craving. If it's a genuine, hunger-based craving, I eat it--savoring each bite as much as possible--and am always surprised by how little of the item I'm actually wanting. (There was one nite that I thoroughly enjoyed some potato chips...you'll notice I said " chips " --as in plural, but here's what's astonishing--I ate TWO. I seriously wanted TWO potato chips, tho I think I made them into 8 savored bites. Then I realized I wanted a banana. How weird is that? And yet WONDERFUL to know I no longer feel the need to eat half the bag!) > >  > > Interestingly, I'm finding I have a different kind of craving which doesn't fall into either category, but that substituting works for in a BIG way. For instance, there are times when pizza sounds good--but not to the point that I'm craving genuine delivery-style from a restaurant. So I'll buy some large portobella mushroom tops, wash, remove the stems, and fill them w/ pizza sauce, part-skim mozzarella, turkey pepperoni and/or turkey sausage crumbles, and italian seasoning; bake in toaster ~15 min and BINGO--a healthy way to quell my pizza urge! What it means in the end is that 80% of the time when the cravings aren't for the authentic item itself, I can make a fairly healthy substitute work. Interestingly, this means that when I DO decide to order Pizza Hut, it tastes AMAZING instead of like something I had a week or two ago. It's really helped me in learning to tune into my cravings and gage when to indulge in the real thing! > >  > > > > IE since Sep 2011 > > > > > > ________________________________ > > From: EHamilton <imagainst_the_wind@> > > To: " IntuitiveEating_Support " <IntuitiveEating_Support > > > Sent: Friday, January 20, 2012 1:40 PM > > Subject: Substituting? > > > > > > > >  > > > > Suppose I feel on a tightrope ready to fall off into a cookie binge. And it's a pretty sure thing that hot coffee with milk will suppress the cookie urge. Does that sound like restriction ( " If you crave cookies, try a cup of coffee instead to save calories " ) or intuition ( " Coffee will be good, I'll enjoy it, and afterwards I probably won't want cookies anymore " )? > > > > I'm not trying to figure out " the rules, " just trying to figure out where my mind's at. Of course I'm the only one who can figure that out, but what's your collective take on it? > > > > Ellie > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2012 Report Share Posted January 24, 2012 abby, I never noticed it with sugar, but will think about it. Sandy I get really thirsty like that after salt OR sugar. Does that happen to anyone else? I always wondered that.abby Tilley, thanks for those ideas. I go to the buffet once a week with my friend, but everything is so salty. I am thirsty all day after that. Last week I decided that a good salad with oil and vinegar dressing and a piece of baked chicken would be good. Their soups I think might be 80% salt(exaggeration). They have this dessert that I really love and I am very grateful that they have been serving very small sizes. Sandy I made a lot of substitutions when I first started trying to limit salt in my diet because of an inner ear disorder. I didn't know about IE then, but too much salt made me dizzy, which was really unpleasant. What I was trying to do was find things that I liked that didn't have much salt in them, but what I came up with truly pleased me. I use garlic and lemon juice in just about everything, and I soon came to prefer that to heavily salted soups or stews. There s a lot of exciting seasoning mixes with no salt. A pot of chili tastes great with about a half teaspoon of salt and a little lemon juice, and smoky chipotle peppers. For my quesadillas, I mixed a little salsa (very salty) with balsamic vinegar--yum. I think it,s okay to think about health, but you have to keep what you LIKE in the forefront. One can do both. And then, a little chocolate torte never hurt anyone anyway. If I went to a potluck tomorrow that had cheesecake, I would probably have a slice of that (and perhaps nothing else). Tilley > > > > If I can tell it's binge-worthy, I ALWAYS substitute and then try to figure out why I'm wanting to in the first place. I kind of view it as my " nicotene patch " to get thru the craving. If it's a genuine, hunger-based craving, I eat it--savoring each bite as much as possible--and am always surprised by how little of the item I'm actually wanting. (There was one nite that I thoroughly enjoyed some potato chips...you'll notice I said " chips " --as in plural, but here's what's astonishing--I ate TWO. I seriously wanted TWO potato chips, tho I think I made them into 8 savored bites. Then I realized I wanted a banana. How weird is that? And yet WONDERFUL to know I no longer feel the need to eat half the bag!) > >  > > Interestingly, I'm finding I have a different kind of craving which doesn't fall into either category, but that substituting works for in a BIG way. For instance, there are times when pizza sounds good--but not to the point that I'm craving genuine delivery-style from a restaurant. So I'll buy some large portobella mushroom tops, wash, remove the stems, and fill them w/ pizza sauce, part-skim mozzarella, turkey pepperoni and/or turkey sausage crumbles, and italian seasoning; bake in toaster ~15 min and BINGO--a healthy way to quell my pizza urge! What it means in the end is that 80% of the time when the cravings aren't for the authentic item itself, I can make a fairly healthy substitute work. Interestingly, this means that when I DO decide to order Pizza Hut, it tastes AMAZING instead of like something I had a week or two ago. It's really helped me in learning to tune into my cravings and gage when to indulge in the real thing! > >  > > > > IE since Sep 2011 > > > > > > ________________________________ > > From: EHamilton <imagainst_the_wind@> > > To: " IntuitiveEating_Support " <IntuitiveEating_Support > > > Sent: Friday, January 20, 2012 1:40 PM > > Subject: Substituting? > > > > > > > >  > > > > Suppose I feel on a tightrope ready to fall off into a cookie binge. And it's a pretty sure thing that hot coffee with milk will suppress the cookie urge. Does that sound like restriction ( " If you crave cookies, try a cup of coffee instead to save calories " ) or intuition ( " Coffee will be good, I'll enjoy it, and afterwards I probably won't want cookies anymore " )? > > > > I'm not trying to figure out " the rules, " just trying to figure out where my mind's at. Of course I'm the only one who can figure that out, but what's your collective take on it? > > > > Ellie > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2012 Report Share Posted January 24, 2012 Yes I definately get thirsty after eating sugar. Alana Sent from my Verizon Wireless Phone --- Original Message --- Sent: January 24, 2012 1/24/12 To: IntuitiveEating_Support Subject: Re: Re: Substituting?  abby, I never noticed it with sugar, but will think about it. Sandy On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 8:40 PM, Abigail Wolfson wrote:  I get really thirsty like that after salt OR sugar. Does that happen to anyone else? I always wondered that. abby  Tilley, thanks for those ideas. I go to the buffet once a week with my friend, but everything is so salty. I am thirsty all day after that. Last week I decided that a good salad with oil and vinegar dressing and a piece of baked chicken would be good. Their soups I think might be 80% salt(exaggeration). They have this dessert that I really love and I am very grateful that they have been serving very small sizes. Sandy  I made a lot of substitutions when I first started trying to limit salt in my diet because of an inner ear disorder. I didn't know about IE then, but too much salt made me dizzy, which was really unpleasant. What I was trying to do was find things that I liked that didn't have much salt in them, but what I came up with truly pleased me. I use garlic and lemon juice in just about everything, and I soon came to prefer that to heavily salted soups or stews. There s a lot of exciting seasoning mixes with no salt. A pot of chili tastes great with about a half teaspoon of salt and a little lemon juice, and smoky chipotle peppers. For my quesadillas, I mixed a little salsa (very salty) with balsamic vinegar--yum. I think it,s okay to think about health, but you have to keep what you LIKE in the forefront. One can do both. And then, a little chocolate torte never hurt anyone anyway. If I went to a potluck tomorrow that had cheesecake, I would probably have a slice of that (and perhaps nothing else). Tilley > > > > If I can tell it's binge-worthy, I ALWAYS substitute and then try to figure out why I'm wanting to in the first place. I kind of view it as my " nicotene patch " to get thru the craving. If it's a genuine, hunger-based craving, I eat it--savoring each bite as much as possible--and am always surprised by how little of the item I'm actually wanting. (There was one nite that I thoroughly enjoyed some potato chips...you'll notice I said " chips " --as in plural, but here's what's astonishing--I ate TWO. I seriously wanted TWO potato chips, tho I think I made them into 8 savored bites. Then I realized I wanted a banana. How weird is that? And yet WONDERFUL to know I no longer feel the need to eat half the bag!) > >  > > Interestingly, I'm finding I have a different kind of craving which doesn't fall into either category, but that substituting works for in a BIG way. For instance, there are times when pizza sounds good--but not to the point that I'm craving genuine delivery-style from a restaurant. So I'll buy some large portobella mushroom tops, wash, remove the stems, and fill them w/ pizza sauce, part-skim mozzarella, turkey pepperoni and/or turkey sausage crumbles, and italian seasoning; bake in toaster ~15 min and BINGO--a healthy way to quell my pizza urge! What it means in the end is that 80% of the time when the cravings aren't for the authentic item itself, I can make a fairly healthy substitute work. Interestingly, this means that when I DO decide to order Pizza Hut, it tastes AMAZING instead of like something I had a week or two ago. It's really helped me in learning to tune into my cravings and gage when to indulge in the real thing! > >  > > > > IE since Sep 2011 > > > > > > ________________________________ > > From: EHamilton <imagainst_the_wind@> > > To: " IntuitiveEating_Support " <IntuitiveEating_Support > > > Sent: Friday, January 20, 2012 1:40 PM > > Subject: Substituting? > > > > > > > >  > > > > Suppose I feel on a tightrope ready to fall off into a cookie binge. And it's a pretty sure thing that hot coffee with milk will suppress the cookie urge. Does that sound like restriction ( " If you crave cookies, try a cup of coffee instead to save calories " ) or intuition ( " Coffee will be good, I'll enjoy it, and afterwards I probably won't want cookies anymore " )? > > > > I'm not trying to figure out " the rules, " just trying to figure out where my mind's at. Of course I'm the only one who can figure that out, but what's your collective take on it? > > > > Ellie > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2012 Report Share Posted January 24, 2012 Yes I definately get thirsty after eating sugar. Alana Sent from my Verizon Wireless Phone --- Original Message --- Sent: January 24, 2012 1/24/12 To: IntuitiveEating_Support Subject: Re: Re: Substituting?  abby, I never noticed it with sugar, but will think about it. Sandy On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 8:40 PM, Abigail Wolfson wrote:  I get really thirsty like that after salt OR sugar. Does that happen to anyone else? I always wondered that. abby  Tilley, thanks for those ideas. I go to the buffet once a week with my friend, but everything is so salty. I am thirsty all day after that. Last week I decided that a good salad with oil and vinegar dressing and a piece of baked chicken would be good. Their soups I think might be 80% salt(exaggeration). They have this dessert that I really love and I am very grateful that they have been serving very small sizes. Sandy  I made a lot of substitutions when I first started trying to limit salt in my diet because of an inner ear disorder. I didn't know about IE then, but too much salt made me dizzy, which was really unpleasant. What I was trying to do was find things that I liked that didn't have much salt in them, but what I came up with truly pleased me. I use garlic and lemon juice in just about everything, and I soon came to prefer that to heavily salted soups or stews. There s a lot of exciting seasoning mixes with no salt. A pot of chili tastes great with about a half teaspoon of salt and a little lemon juice, and smoky chipotle peppers. For my quesadillas, I mixed a little salsa (very salty) with balsamic vinegar--yum. I think it,s okay to think about health, but you have to keep what you LIKE in the forefront. One can do both. And then, a little chocolate torte never hurt anyone anyway. If I went to a potluck tomorrow that had cheesecake, I would probably have a slice of that (and perhaps nothing else). Tilley > > > > If I can tell it's binge-worthy, I ALWAYS substitute and then try to figure out why I'm wanting to in the first place. I kind of view it as my " nicotene patch " to get thru the craving. If it's a genuine, hunger-based craving, I eat it--savoring each bite as much as possible--and am always surprised by how little of the item I'm actually wanting. (There was one nite that I thoroughly enjoyed some potato chips...you'll notice I said " chips " --as in plural, but here's what's astonishing--I ate TWO. I seriously wanted TWO potato chips, tho I think I made them into 8 savored bites. Then I realized I wanted a banana. How weird is that? And yet WONDERFUL to know I no longer feel the need to eat half the bag!) > >  > > Interestingly, I'm finding I have a different kind of craving which doesn't fall into either category, but that substituting works for in a BIG way. For instance, there are times when pizza sounds good--but not to the point that I'm craving genuine delivery-style from a restaurant. So I'll buy some large portobella mushroom tops, wash, remove the stems, and fill them w/ pizza sauce, part-skim mozzarella, turkey pepperoni and/or turkey sausage crumbles, and italian seasoning; bake in toaster ~15 min and BINGO--a healthy way to quell my pizza urge! What it means in the end is that 80% of the time when the cravings aren't for the authentic item itself, I can make a fairly healthy substitute work. Interestingly, this means that when I DO decide to order Pizza Hut, it tastes AMAZING instead of like something I had a week or two ago. It's really helped me in learning to tune into my cravings and gage when to indulge in the real thing! > >  > > > > IE since Sep 2011 > > > > > > ________________________________ > > From: EHamilton <imagainst_the_wind@> > > To: " IntuitiveEating_Support " <IntuitiveEating_Support > > > Sent: Friday, January 20, 2012 1:40 PM > > Subject: Substituting? > > > > > > > >  > > > > Suppose I feel on a tightrope ready to fall off into a cookie binge. And it's a pretty sure thing that hot coffee with milk will suppress the cookie urge. Does that sound like restriction ( " If you crave cookies, try a cup of coffee instead to save calories " ) or intuition ( " Coffee will be good, I'll enjoy it, and afterwards I probably won't want cookies anymore " )? > > > > I'm not trying to figure out " the rules, " just trying to figure out where my mind's at. Of course I'm the only one who can figure that out, but what's your collective take on it? > > > > Ellie > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2012 Report Share Posted January 24, 2012 Yes I definately get thirsty after eating sugar. Alana Sent from my Verizon Wireless Phone --- Original Message --- Sent: January 24, 2012 1/24/12 To: IntuitiveEating_Support Subject: Re: Re: Substituting?  abby, I never noticed it with sugar, but will think about it. Sandy On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 8:40 PM, Abigail Wolfson wrote:  I get really thirsty like that after salt OR sugar. Does that happen to anyone else? I always wondered that. abby  Tilley, thanks for those ideas. I go to the buffet once a week with my friend, but everything is so salty. I am thirsty all day after that. Last week I decided that a good salad with oil and vinegar dressing and a piece of baked chicken would be good. Their soups I think might be 80% salt(exaggeration). They have this dessert that I really love and I am very grateful that they have been serving very small sizes. Sandy  I made a lot of substitutions when I first started trying to limit salt in my diet because of an inner ear disorder. I didn't know about IE then, but too much salt made me dizzy, which was really unpleasant. What I was trying to do was find things that I liked that didn't have much salt in them, but what I came up with truly pleased me. I use garlic and lemon juice in just about everything, and I soon came to prefer that to heavily salted soups or stews. There s a lot of exciting seasoning mixes with no salt. A pot of chili tastes great with about a half teaspoon of salt and a little lemon juice, and smoky chipotle peppers. For my quesadillas, I mixed a little salsa (very salty) with balsamic vinegar--yum. I think it,s okay to think about health, but you have to keep what you LIKE in the forefront. One can do both. And then, a little chocolate torte never hurt anyone anyway. If I went to a potluck tomorrow that had cheesecake, I would probably have a slice of that (and perhaps nothing else). Tilley > > > > If I can tell it's binge-worthy, I ALWAYS substitute and then try to figure out why I'm wanting to in the first place. I kind of view it as my " nicotene patch " to get thru the craving. If it's a genuine, hunger-based craving, I eat it--savoring each bite as much as possible--and am always surprised by how little of the item I'm actually wanting. (There was one nite that I thoroughly enjoyed some potato chips...you'll notice I said " chips " --as in plural, but here's what's astonishing--I ate TWO. I seriously wanted TWO potato chips, tho I think I made them into 8 savored bites. Then I realized I wanted a banana. How weird is that? And yet WONDERFUL to know I no longer feel the need to eat half the bag!) > >  > > Interestingly, I'm finding I have a different kind of craving which doesn't fall into either category, but that substituting works for in a BIG way. For instance, there are times when pizza sounds good--but not to the point that I'm craving genuine delivery-style from a restaurant. So I'll buy some large portobella mushroom tops, wash, remove the stems, and fill them w/ pizza sauce, part-skim mozzarella, turkey pepperoni and/or turkey sausage crumbles, and italian seasoning; bake in toaster ~15 min and BINGO--a healthy way to quell my pizza urge! What it means in the end is that 80% of the time when the cravings aren't for the authentic item itself, I can make a fairly healthy substitute work. Interestingly, this means that when I DO decide to order Pizza Hut, it tastes AMAZING instead of like something I had a week or two ago. It's really helped me in learning to tune into my cravings and gage when to indulge in the real thing! > >  > > > > IE since Sep 2011 > > > > > > ________________________________ > > From: EHamilton <imagainst_the_wind@> > > To: " IntuitiveEating_Support " <IntuitiveEating_Support > > > Sent: Friday, January 20, 2012 1:40 PM > > Subject: Substituting? > > > > > > > >  > > > > Suppose I feel on a tightrope ready to fall off into a cookie binge. And it's a pretty sure thing that hot coffee with milk will suppress the cookie urge. Does that sound like restriction ( " If you crave cookies, try a cup of coffee instead to save calories " ) or intuition ( " Coffee will be good, I'll enjoy it, and afterwards I probably won't want cookies anymore " )? > > > > I'm not trying to figure out " the rules, " just trying to figure out where my mind's at. Of course I'm the only one who can figure that out, but what's your collective take on it? > > > > Ellie > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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