Re: Bad thing... the battle cry...

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I'm going to sound like a broken record eventually, but I believe that the only

way out is through. Being " overtaken " by formerly forbidden foods is a journey

through the thinking and emotions that underlie the obsession.

As long as we're resisting, the food will win. I swear. That doesn't mean

deciding to just binge the rest of one's life - it does mean going with the

binges and learning they will play out when you stop fighting them and instead

be with the you that is so hungry.

As long as we're in fear, fear will win. Fear of that inner being who's crazed

about food. Who is she? How did she get that way? How long as she been that

way? How do I treat her? Do I know that it's a part of me - or just the

reality of humans being out of control? Who is the hungery self inside of me?

What does she need?

What's your history with food? When did you first learn that you were out of

control? Who said? When did you first feel terror about weight gain? What was

happening in your life at that time? There are a million questions that can

help you ferret out the driving forces of your food fear. Start asking them,

rather than how do I stop this which is a battle cry rather than a surrender

into the journey required in order to heal from this food obsession.

Best wishes, Sandarah

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> Ellie, I know just how you feel about wondering if you should go on another

weight loss program. I've recently come off of counting calories and back to IE,

but I can't seem to get myself under control either, where chocolate is

concerned. Not only chocolate, but also high carb foods and I can feel my jeans

getting tighter each day. I donated my " larger " jeans to a thrift store a couple

of weeks ago, and I told my husband yesterday that I am now starting to have

regrets about it, because my jeans are very snug now. I understand that

initially I may gain a little weight with giving myself this " freedom " of no

restrictions, but being out of control with certain foods is making me so

nervous. I don't want to restrict anything, but having these things around is

seeming impossible to avoid overdoing on.

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> I gave my calorie counter book away recently, because like you, adding the

numbers constantly drove me crazy and feeling so restricted really had me going

on outrageous binges. But after stopping with the counting cals, I'm tending to

overeat anyway, though I wouldn't call it true " binges " , still I'm eating more

than I should. The idea to start counting calories again has been strong the

past couple of days, but I know the binges will start again, should I do that,

the only thing preventing me from it.

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> I could use some advice from others who have been in the same boat. How to we

handle legalizing all foods, and yet not let those foods we crave so much

overtake us?

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> Ann

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> >>This came about because my husband told me last night he's joined WW online.

So I thought.... how much *do* I weigh, anyway? I'm only 2 pounds over my

wake-up call number but I'm having thoughts of, " He's going to be following WW,

maybe I should do it with him.... " Two pounds over my wake-up call is 12 pounds

over the weight I like and 17 pounds over my best athletic weight. See???? I'm

counting, I'm obsessing on numbers. The last thing I need is to be counting

" points " as well. Numbers drive me crazy.

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> >>I don't believe in restriction but I do not yet trust myself to let my

innate wisdom take the lead; it's been suppressed so long by either diets or

overeating. 

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> >>I just asked myself: Do I *want* to overeat? No, I don't. Well, why am I

doing something I really don't want to do, when I have the choice to do it or

not? Mostly it's the darn cookies. We live with my mother, who's 90, and she

wants cookies. I'm not telling a 90-yr-old she can't have cookies just because I

binge on them. She doesn't even eat that many. They disappear because I eat them

all.

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> >>Maybe I should read the IE book after all. 

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> >>Ellie

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[Guest guest]

I'm going to sound like a broken record eventually, but I believe that the only

way out is through. Being " overtaken " by formerly forbidden foods is a journey

through the thinking and emotions that underlie the obsession.

As long as we're resisting, the food will win. I swear. That doesn't mean

deciding to just binge the rest of one's life - it does mean going with the

binges and learning they will play out when you stop fighting them and instead

be with the you that is so hungry.

As long as we're in fear, fear will win. Fear of that inner being who's crazed

about food. Who is she? How did she get that way? How long as she been that

way? How do I treat her? Do I know that it's a part of me - or just the

reality of humans being out of control? Who is the hungery self inside of me?

What does she need?

What's your history with food? When did you first learn that you were out of

control? Who said? When did you first feel terror about weight gain? What was

happening in your life at that time? There are a million questions that can

help you ferret out the driving forces of your food fear. Start asking them,

rather than how do I stop this which is a battle cry rather than a surrender

into the journey required in order to heal from this food obsession.

Best wishes, Sandarah

>

> Ellie, I know just how you feel about wondering if you should go on another

weight loss program. I've recently come off of counting calories and back to IE,

but I can't seem to get myself under control either, where chocolate is

concerned. Not only chocolate, but also high carb foods and I can feel my jeans

getting tighter each day. I donated my " larger " jeans to a thrift store a couple

of weeks ago, and I told my husband yesterday that I am now starting to have

regrets about it, because my jeans are very snug now. I understand that

initially I may gain a little weight with giving myself this " freedom " of no

restrictions, but being out of control with certain foods is making me so

nervous. I don't want to restrict anything, but having these things around is

seeming impossible to avoid overdoing on.

>  

> I gave my calorie counter book away recently, because like you, adding the

numbers constantly drove me crazy and feeling so restricted really had me going

on outrageous binges. But after stopping with the counting cals, I'm tending to

overeat anyway, though I wouldn't call it true " binges " , still I'm eating more

than I should. The idea to start counting calories again has been strong the

past couple of days, but I know the binges will start again, should I do that,

the only thing preventing me from it.

>  

> I could use some advice from others who have been in the same boat. How to we

handle legalizing all foods, and yet not let those foods we crave so much

overtake us?

>  

> Ann

>

>

> ________________________________

>  

>

>

>

> >________________________________

> >

>  

> >

> >>

> >>This came about because my husband told me last night he's joined WW online.

So I thought.... how much *do* I weigh, anyway? I'm only 2 pounds over my

wake-up call number but I'm having thoughts of, " He's going to be following WW,

maybe I should do it with him.... " Two pounds over my wake-up call is 12 pounds

over the weight I like and 17 pounds over my best athletic weight. See???? I'm

counting, I'm obsessing on numbers. The last thing I need is to be counting

" points " as well. Numbers drive me crazy.

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>I don't believe in restriction but I do not yet trust myself to let my

innate wisdom take the lead; it's been suppressed so long by either diets or

overeating. 

> >>

> >>

> >>I just asked myself: Do I *want* to overeat? No, I don't. Well, why am I

doing something I really don't want to do, when I have the choice to do it or

not? Mostly it's the darn cookies. We live with my mother, who's 90, and she

wants cookies. I'm not telling a 90-yr-old she can't have cookies just because I

binge on them. She doesn't even eat that many. They disappear because I eat them

all.

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> >>Maybe I should read the IE book after all. 

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> >>Ellie

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[Guest guest]

This is about making peace with food - not fighting it. Sandarah

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> HUH????

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>     I'm going to sound like a broken record eventually, but I believe that

the only way out is through. Being " overtaken " by formerly forbidden foods is a

journey through the thinking and emotions that underlie the obsession.

> >

> >As long as we're resisting, the food will win. I swear.

> That doesn't mean deciding to just binge the rest of one's

> life - it does mean going with the binges and learning

> they will play out when you stop fighting them and instead

> be with the you that is so hungry.

> >

> >As long as we're in fear, fear will win. Fear of that

> inner being who's crazed about food. Who is she? How did

> she get that way? How long as she been that way? How do I

> treat her? Do I know that it's a part of me - or just the

> reality of humans being out of control? Who is the hungery

> self inside of me? What does she need?

> >

> >What's your history with food? When did you first learn

> that you were out of control? Who said? When did you first

> feel terror about weight gain? What was happening in your

> life at that time? There are a million questions that can

> help you ferret out the driving forces of your food fear.

> Start asking them, rather than how do I stop this which is

> a battle cry rather than a surrender into the journey

> required in order to heal from this food obsession.

> >

> >Best wishes, Sandarah

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