Re: Another night time panic attack...

[Guest guest]

I'm not sure if it's been posted before, but what is the 54321 thing? I

think I have an idea, but I could be totally wrong. I'd like to know

because I like those tidbits that can help!

I also am with you, . I've been having panic attacks every night for

the past 3 or 4 nights. I'm dreading going to bed. Going to try to do my

best to focus on breathing, meditation & maybe play some music softly. I

don't understand why it's at night... I can meditate any time usually with

no problem, but for some reason with my depressed mood the past week or so,

I've been having panic attacks at night. I don't like it, not one bit,

especially since I haven't had a panic attack in months before this episode.

I'm so sorry you're having them too =( Im an really glad you were able to

focus on it and not get consumed by it. I used to have them so bad they

often lasted for hours. Then, once I learned some coping techniques I got

to the point where I'd catch it early on & curb it. But lately they've been

so strong and I think I'm actually somewhat dissociating during them too. I

notice I'll sort of start having one and note the time, but then I just

check out... before I know it it's been over an hour and I've been crying &

panicing non stop. This is very strange & different from what I'm used to

and I need to figure out how to curb it, fast.

I am off to bed myself now, wish me luck. I hope you can get through the

night without another.

Mia

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> Wow, that was a scary one that came out of nowhere. After about 30 seconds

> I realized what was happening and started employing some deep breathing and

> trying to do that 54321 thing. I didn't really get very far but trying to

> focus on something else did help me relax and breathe. Something on the tv

> show I was watching made me think about my own death (and while this has

> never freaked me out in the past) and I started just freaking out and

> panicking. I'm still a little worked up but okay now. That was really

> intense. I'm trying to figure out what brought it on.

>

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[Guest guest]

I'm not sure if it's been posted before, but what is the 54321 thing? I

think I have an idea, but I could be totally wrong. I'd like to know

because I like those tidbits that can help!

I also am with you, . I've been having panic attacks every night for

the past 3 or 4 nights. I'm dreading going to bed. Going to try to do my

best to focus on breathing, meditation & maybe play some music softly. I

don't understand why it's at night... I can meditate any time usually with

no problem, but for some reason with my depressed mood the past week or so,

I've been having panic attacks at night. I don't like it, not one bit,

especially since I haven't had a panic attack in months before this episode.

I'm so sorry you're having them too =( Im an really glad you were able to

focus on it and not get consumed by it. I used to have them so bad they

often lasted for hours. Then, once I learned some coping techniques I got

to the point where I'd catch it early on & curb it. But lately they've been

so strong and I think I'm actually somewhat dissociating during them too. I

notice I'll sort of start having one and note the time, but then I just

check out... before I know it it's been over an hour and I've been crying &

panicing non stop. This is very strange & different from what I'm used to

and I need to figure out how to curb it, fast.

I am off to bed myself now, wish me luck. I hope you can get through the

night without another.

Mia

>

>

> Wow, that was a scary one that came out of nowhere. After about 30 seconds

> I realized what was happening and started employing some deep breathing and

> trying to do that 54321 thing. I didn't really get very far but trying to

> focus on something else did help me relax and breathe. Something on the tv

> show I was watching made me think about my own death (and while this has

> never freaked me out in the past) and I started just freaking out and

> panicking. I'm still a little worked up but okay now. That was really

> intense. I'm trying to figure out what brought it on.

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I hope you were able to get back to sleep last night. I caught myself as I began

to hyperventilate. The panic is so illogical; I just don't understand it.

THe 5-4-3-2-1 technique is something Jaie told me about (I think). You count 5

things you see, 5 things you hear, etc., then 4 things, then 3, etc. I wasn't

totally successful at getting through it last night, but trying to push my mind

onto something else really did help. Last night was the scariest one because the

trigger came out of nowhere.

I have to try and get in touch with these EAP people again today. They were

supposed to have referrals for me on Friday, then yesterday, and no call or

anything to tell me what's up. I'm getting worse and I need help. But now I'm

dreading going to bed tonight, because I don't want to have another panic

attack.

[Guest guest]

I hope you were able to get back to sleep last night. I caught myself as I began

to hyperventilate. The panic is so illogical; I just don't understand it.

THe 5-4-3-2-1 technique is something Jaie told me about (I think). You count 5

things you see, 5 things you hear, etc., then 4 things, then 3, etc. I wasn't

totally successful at getting through it last night, but trying to push my mind

onto something else really did help. Last night was the scariest one because the

trigger came out of nowhere.

I have to try and get in touch with these EAP people again today. They were

supposed to have referrals for me on Friday, then yesterday, and no call or

anything to tell me what's up. I'm getting worse and I need help. But now I'm

dreading going to bed tonight, because I don't want to have another panic

attack.

[Guest guest]

I hope you were able to get back to sleep last night. I caught myself as I began

to hyperventilate. The panic is so illogical; I just don't understand it.

THe 5-4-3-2-1 technique is something Jaie told me about (I think). You count 5

things you see, 5 things you hear, etc., then 4 things, then 3, etc. I wasn't

totally successful at getting through it last night, but trying to push my mind

onto something else really did help. Last night was the scariest one because the

trigger came out of nowhere.

I have to try and get in touch with these EAP people again today. They were

supposed to have referrals for me on Friday, then yesterday, and no call or

anything to tell me what's up. I'm getting worse and I need help. But now I'm

dreading going to bed tonight, because I don't want to have another panic

attack.

[Guest guest]

Hugs .

There is nothing more frustrating that having your body seemingly betray you out

of nowhere with panic attacks. My own personal opinion is that when it happens

to me, there are way too many negative thoughts running through my head I'm

reacting to and assigning emotion to. I have put a lot of effort into plucking

those thoughts out of the stream of thoughts and talking myself through them in

the positive. Some thoughts that generate anxiety for me are the flat out worry

thoughts based on assumptions. I notice assumptions in particular. I assume

something bad will happen and start to get scared as a result. When I remind

myself that I'm borrowing trouble, that my assumptions are not facts and there

is no way that should be assigning emotion without facts, I usually talk myself

out of the panic attacks.

When I get very busy, my mind is working exceptionally fast and I can feel the

energy running in hyperspeed. When I notice that, I slow myself down and start

deep breathing and give myself lots of positive self-talk. This has helped me

avoid panic attacks for the last 3 years. My brain just doesn't work like other

peoples works and I am prone to extreme anxiety. I think there is something to

the thoughts just moving too fast, faster than I am able to grab one and

rationalize it before It runs off looking for emotions. LOL Practice and

breathing as well as other mental imagery exercises can really help you get

control.

Especially since I get panic attacks in 3 waves. The initial hits hard and

sometimes I lost consciousness for a few seconds. The second and third waves

are always manageable, but uncomfortable. Management techniques can be

helpful...keep practicing and be very loving and positive and even logical with

your thoughts. Try to catch the ones borrowing trouble and stop them. The only

moment or thing we can be certain of is this moment. We cannot predict the

future or even the next moment with 100% certainty so, try to coral and

transform the thoughts that get ahead of where you are.

Hang in there.

Jaie

>

> Wow, that was a scary one that came out of nowhere. After about 30 seconds I

realized what was happening and started employing some deep breathing and trying

to do that 54321 thing. I didn't really get very far but trying to focus on

something else did help me relax and breathe. Something on the tv show I was

watching made me think about my own death (and while this has never freaked me

out in the past) and I started just freaking out and panicking. I'm still a

little worked up but okay now. That was really intense. I'm trying to figure out

what brought it on.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hugs .

There is nothing more frustrating that having your body seemingly betray you out

of nowhere with panic attacks. My own personal opinion is that when it happens

to me, there are way too many negative thoughts running through my head I'm

reacting to and assigning emotion to. I have put a lot of effort into plucking

those thoughts out of the stream of thoughts and talking myself through them in

the positive. Some thoughts that generate anxiety for me are the flat out worry

thoughts based on assumptions. I notice assumptions in particular. I assume

something bad will happen and start to get scared as a result. When I remind

myself that I'm borrowing trouble, that my assumptions are not facts and there

is no way that should be assigning emotion without facts, I usually talk myself

out of the panic attacks.

When I get very busy, my mind is working exceptionally fast and I can feel the

energy running in hyperspeed. When I notice that, I slow myself down and start

deep breathing and give myself lots of positive self-talk. This has helped me

avoid panic attacks for the last 3 years. My brain just doesn't work like other

peoples works and I am prone to extreme anxiety. I think there is something to

the thoughts just moving too fast, faster than I am able to grab one and

rationalize it before It runs off looking for emotions. LOL Practice and

breathing as well as other mental imagery exercises can really help you get

control.

Especially since I get panic attacks in 3 waves. The initial hits hard and

sometimes I lost consciousness for a few seconds. The second and third waves

are always manageable, but uncomfortable. Management techniques can be

helpful...keep practicing and be very loving and positive and even logical with

your thoughts. Try to catch the ones borrowing trouble and stop them. The only

moment or thing we can be certain of is this moment. We cannot predict the

future or even the next moment with 100% certainty so, try to coral and

transform the thoughts that get ahead of where you are.

Hang in there.

Jaie

>

> Wow, that was a scary one that came out of nowhere. After about 30 seconds I

realized what was happening and started employing some deep breathing and trying

to do that 54321 thing. I didn't really get very far but trying to focus on

something else did help me relax and breathe. Something on the tv show I was

watching made me think about my own death (and while this has never freaked me

out in the past) and I started just freaking out and panicking. I'm still a

little worked up but okay now. That was really intense. I'm trying to figure out

what brought it on.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hugs .

There is nothing more frustrating that having your body seemingly betray you out

of nowhere with panic attacks. My own personal opinion is that when it happens

to me, there are way too many negative thoughts running through my head I'm

reacting to and assigning emotion to. I have put a lot of effort into plucking

those thoughts out of the stream of thoughts and talking myself through them in

the positive. Some thoughts that generate anxiety for me are the flat out worry

thoughts based on assumptions. I notice assumptions in particular. I assume

something bad will happen and start to get scared as a result. When I remind

myself that I'm borrowing trouble, that my assumptions are not facts and there

is no way that should be assigning emotion without facts, I usually talk myself

out of the panic attacks.

When I get very busy, my mind is working exceptionally fast and I can feel the

energy running in hyperspeed. When I notice that, I slow myself down and start

deep breathing and give myself lots of positive self-talk. This has helped me

avoid panic attacks for the last 3 years. My brain just doesn't work like other

peoples works and I am prone to extreme anxiety. I think there is something to

the thoughts just moving too fast, faster than I am able to grab one and

rationalize it before It runs off looking for emotions. LOL Practice and

breathing as well as other mental imagery exercises can really help you get

control.

Especially since I get panic attacks in 3 waves. The initial hits hard and

sometimes I lost consciousness for a few seconds. The second and third waves

are always manageable, but uncomfortable. Management techniques can be

helpful...keep practicing and be very loving and positive and even logical with

your thoughts. Try to catch the ones borrowing trouble and stop them. The only

moment or thing we can be certain of is this moment. We cannot predict the

future or even the next moment with 100% certainty so, try to coral and

transform the thoughts that get ahead of where you are.

Hang in there.

Jaie

>

> Wow, that was a scary one that came out of nowhere. After about 30 seconds I

realized what was happening and started employing some deep breathing and trying

to do that 54321 thing. I didn't really get very far but trying to focus on

something else did help me relax and breathe. Something on the tv show I was

watching made me think about my own death (and while this has never freaked me

out in the past) and I started just freaking out and panicking. I'm still a

little worked up but okay now. That was really intense. I'm trying to figure out

what brought it on.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi , are you doing better today? I just had a thought of a meditation

technique you might like to try too. It's based on hearing only - you focus on

what will be the next thing that you hear...think of yourself like a cat waiting

for a mouse to jump on it. Your goal is to observe intently for sound, and each

time you get distracted by thoughts, feelings, or panic return back to " the

hunt " . In a short while you'll relax into the space *between* the sounds and

start to feel better. For me this is one of the easiest techniques to do even

if I'm triggered and upset.

A while back I took a natural herb that is compared to Xanax and I went through

a mild withdrawal from it and began to feel panic out of nowhere. It's scary!

I hope it gets better for you soon.

Take care,

[Guest guest]

Hi , are you doing better today? I just had a thought of a meditation

technique you might like to try too. It's based on hearing only - you focus on

what will be the next thing that you hear...think of yourself like a cat waiting

for a mouse to jump on it. Your goal is to observe intently for sound, and each

time you get distracted by thoughts, feelings, or panic return back to " the

hunt " . In a short while you'll relax into the space *between* the sounds and

start to feel better. For me this is one of the easiest techniques to do even

if I'm triggered and upset.

A while back I took a natural herb that is compared to Xanax and I went through

a mild withdrawal from it and began to feel panic out of nowhere. It's scary!

I hope it gets better for you soon.

Take care,

[Guest guest]

I'm okay, but the anxiety is just taking a toll on my energy. The good news is I

finally got provider information and I have my first therapy session scheduled

for Thursday. And it's really close to work and at a good time...doctor's

appointments are always a pain in the butt because they are the opposite

direction from work, but the clinic is in walking distance of work, so that will

make it so easy.

I'm a little nervous about my first session, but I'm also really relieved. And

my insurance covers unlimited sessions with only a $20 co-pay, so while co-pays

can add up, that's not too bad in my book. My sleep is worth $80 a month for

sure.

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> Hi , are you doing better today? I just had a thought of a meditation

technique you might like to try too. It's based on hearing only - you focus on

what will be the next thing that you hear...think of yourself like a cat waiting

for a mouse to jump on it. Your goal is to observe intently for sound, and each

time you get distracted by thoughts, feelings, or panic return back to " the

hunt " . In a short while you'll relax into the space *between* the sounds and

start to feel better. For me this is one of the easiest techniques to do even

if I'm triggered and upset.

>

> A while back I took a natural herb that is compared to Xanax and I went

through a mild withdrawal from it and began to feel panic out of nowhere. It's

scary! I hope it gets better for you soon.

>

> Take care,

>

>

[Guest guest]

So proud of you for recognizing the panic attack and doing self help things! My

son gets these he is Bi-Polar and he is working hard at good mental hygiene and

helping himself. It is hard to take control. Pats on the back for recognizing

the panic attack. I like the 54321 thing and am backtracking through the posts

to find a complete description of the technique for my son.

Kay

>

> Wow, that was a scary one that came out of nowhere. After about 30 seconds I

realized what was happening and started employing some deep breathing and trying

to do that 54321 thing. I didn't really get very far but trying to focus on

something else did help me relax and breathe. Something on the tv show I was

watching made me think about my own death (and while this has never freaked me

out in the past) and I started just freaking out and panicking. I'm still a

little worked up but okay now. That was really intense. I'm trying to figure out

what brought it on.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

So proud of you for recognizing the panic attack and doing self help things! My

son gets these he is Bi-Polar and he is working hard at good mental hygiene and

helping himself. It is hard to take control. Pats on the back for recognizing

the panic attack. I like the 54321 thing and am backtracking through the posts

to find a complete description of the technique for my son.

Kay

>

> Wow, that was a scary one that came out of nowhere. After about 30 seconds I

realized what was happening and started employing some deep breathing and trying

to do that 54321 thing. I didn't really get very far but trying to focus on

something else did help me relax and breathe. Something on the tv show I was

watching made me think about my own death (and while this has never freaked me

out in the past) and I started just freaking out and panicking. I'm still a

little worked up but okay now. That was really intense. I'm trying to figure out

what brought it on.

>

>

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