Guest guest Posted August 26, 2000 Report Share Posted August 26, 2000 Robin, I have had the tiny pinpoint scabbing also. I have been very gentle with my face and even in spots where I have barely touched the pimples I will get blood fill up just a little behind the pimple. Almost like the pimple is making a hollow spot and my blood vessels are breaking and the hole fills in with blood. Then it turns into a scab. Does that sound like what you've been experiencing? I have even had where I have pimples it would fill in with blood and the pimple would go away then there would be a smooth spot under the skin that was filled with blood. The pimple would be totally gone just a flat spot almost like a little bruise or a blood blister. They would last for a long time before it would heal and the blood would get out of the area. I used to think it was a blood pressure problem but my blood pressure it very good. Now I think my blood vessels are very weak. Does anyone else experience anything like this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 26, 2000 Report Share Posted August 26, 2000 Robin, I have had the tiny pinpoint scabbing also. I have been very gentle with my face and even in spots where I have barely touched the pimples I will get blood fill up just a little behind the pimple. Almost like the pimple is making a hollow spot and my blood vessels are breaking and the hole fills in with blood. Then it turns into a scab. Does that sound like what you've been experiencing? I have even had where I have pimples it would fill in with blood and the pimple would go away then there would be a smooth spot under the skin that was filled with blood. The pimple would be totally gone just a flat spot almost like a little bruise or a blood blister. They would last for a long time before it would heal and the blood would get out of the area. I used to think it was a blood pressure problem but my blood pressure it very good. Now I think my blood vessels are very weak. Does anyone else experience anything like this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 26, 2000 Report Share Posted August 26, 2000 Robin, I have had the tiny pinpoint scabbing also. I have been very gentle with my face and even in spots where I have barely touched the pimples I will get blood fill up just a little behind the pimple. Almost like the pimple is making a hollow spot and my blood vessels are breaking and the hole fills in with blood. Then it turns into a scab. Does that sound like what you've been experiencing? I have even had where I have pimples it would fill in with blood and the pimple would go away then there would be a smooth spot under the skin that was filled with blood. The pimple would be totally gone just a flat spot almost like a little bruise or a blood blister. They would last for a long time before it would heal and the blood would get out of the area. I used to think it was a blood pressure problem but my blood pressure it very good. Now I think my blood vessels are very weak. Does anyone else experience anything like this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 26, 2000 Report Share Posted August 26, 2000 I wonder if there are any supplements that we can take that will strengthen and increase the elasticity of our blood vessels? If there were, and we combined that with a lifestyle that avoided our major triggers, used proper skin care products, and possibly went under the laser or photoderm we might be in the clear... > Robin, > I have had the tiny pinpoint scabbing also. I have been very gentle > with my face and even in spots where I have barely touched the pimples I will > get blood fill up just a little behind the pimple. Almost like the pimple is > making a hollow spot and my blood vessels are breaking and the hole fills in > with blood. Then it turns into a scab. Does that sound like what you've been > experiencing? > I have even had where I have pimples it would fill in with blood and the > pimple would go away then there would be a smooth spot under the skin that > was filled with blood. The pimple would be totally gone just a flat spot > almost like a little bruise or a blood blister. They would last for a long > time before it would heal and the blood would get out of the area. I used to > think it was a blood pressure problem but my blood pressure it very good. Now > I think my blood vessels are very weak. Does anyone else experience anything > like this? > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 26, 2000 Report Share Posted August 26, 2000 I wonder if there are any supplements that we can take that will strengthen and increase the elasticity of our blood vessels? If there were, and we combined that with a lifestyle that avoided our major triggers, used proper skin care products, and possibly went under the laser or photoderm we might be in the clear... > Robin, > I have had the tiny pinpoint scabbing also. I have been very gentle > with my face and even in spots where I have barely touched the pimples I will > get blood fill up just a little behind the pimple. Almost like the pimple is > making a hollow spot and my blood vessels are breaking and the hole fills in > with blood. Then it turns into a scab. Does that sound like what you've been > experiencing? > I have even had where I have pimples it would fill in with blood and the > pimple would go away then there would be a smooth spot under the skin that > was filled with blood. The pimple would be totally gone just a flat spot > almost like a little bruise or a blood blister. They would last for a long > time before it would heal and the blood would get out of the area. I used to > think it was a blood pressure problem but my blood pressure it very good. Now > I think my blood vessels are very weak. Does anyone else experience anything > like this? > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 26, 2000 Report Share Posted August 26, 2000 I wonder if there are any supplements that we can take that will strengthen and increase the elasticity of our blood vessels? If there were, and we combined that with a lifestyle that avoided our major triggers, used proper skin care products, and possibly went under the laser or photoderm we might be in the clear... > Robin, > I have had the tiny pinpoint scabbing also. I have been very gentle > with my face and even in spots where I have barely touched the pimples I will > get blood fill up just a little behind the pimple. Almost like the pimple is > making a hollow spot and my blood vessels are breaking and the hole fills in > with blood. Then it turns into a scab. Does that sound like what you've been > experiencing? > I have even had where I have pimples it would fill in with blood and the > pimple would go away then there would be a smooth spot under the skin that > was filled with blood. The pimple would be totally gone just a flat spot > almost like a little bruise or a blood blister. They would last for a long > time before it would heal and the blood would get out of the area. I used to > think it was a blood pressure problem but my blood pressure it very good. Now > I think my blood vessels are very weak. Does anyone else experience anything > like this? > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 26, 2000 Report Share Posted August 26, 2000 ....I wonder if there are any supplements that we can take that will strengthen and increase the elasticity of our blood vessels? If there were, and we combined that with a lifestyle that avoided our major triggers, used proper skin care products, and possibly went under the laser or photoderm we might be in the clear... Yes, apparently there are. I was told that grape seed extract and Ester C are the top two most important supplements for strengthening blood vessel walls (amongst other things) according to Dr Nase. When I went to the Sher Clinic, I told Helen Sher that I thought I had rosacea and was given a leafet which I will reproduce below in case it is of interest to anyone. Apparently the information was given to the clinic by one of their clients who had been recommended these two supplements by Dr Nase. " Additional Supplements for cea (as recommended by one of our clients) I wanted to add to the top of the list of suggested vitamins two supplements that Dr Nase strongly recommended to me a while back for my severe flushing and swelling. These are Ester C and grape seed extract. Dr Nase says that these are the top two most important supplements that all we rosaceans can take. Among many other positive effects, the combination has significant anti-inflammatory properties, STRENGTHENS THE BLOOD VESSEL WALLS (my emphasis), and decreases swelling. It is very important to take Ester C, not regular vitamin C, because it is not acidic. I've been taking 250mg Ester C and 100mg grape seed extract - both 3 x daily - and am now gradually increasing the doses. A side effect at first may be diarrhoea. (I didn't have this), but the body adjusts. The guideline that Dr Nase gave me is: Under 150lbs - Try to work up to 1,000mg Ester C + 200mg grape seed extract x 3 daily Above 150lbs - Try to work up to 2,000mg Ester C + 200mg grape seed extract x 3 daily It sounds like a lot to take and is expensive, but is worth it! You can get these at any health food store or from the vitaminshoppe.com. Dr Nase recommended the Source Naturals brand of grape seed extract - it's called Proanthodyn. I've been taking the Ester C and grape seed extract for several weeks and I am starting to see some positive results. " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 26, 2000 Report Share Posted August 26, 2000 I'd > like to post that I am still doing aerobics, but not with quite the same > intensity because it does make me red. I thought it was just because I > was getting old (I'm 38) and that it was harder for my system to regroup > after exercise. > Robin, I will tell you what my laser surgeon told me after I had pulse dye. Don't do aerobics - find a less intense form of exercise. I highly recommend light weights - but really stretch and warm-up first. How about yoga or walking first? Weights increase your metabolism because you replace fat with muscle. I recommend Miriam 's book, Strong Women, Strong Bones. She is the woman from Tuft's University who started the study that proved weights can prevent osteoporosis and it's probably the most effective way of slimming down. You don't really sweat when you do them - and you do them indoors in airconditioning. You start with very light weights (do soup cans to learn the movements first) then 3 lbs, 5lbs - up to how high you want to go. I stopped at 15 lbs. and just maintained at that weight. Being 52 and hypothyroid I had a real struggle to lose weight. Weight Watchers actually depressed me because I wasn't able to lose the amount other women could. But once I started the weights, it changed everything. I was just careful about what I ate - and did not ever let myself get hungry - and I lost so much more easily. (You go by clothes size and not weight, because muscle weighs more than fat but takes up a lot less room). I did aerobics 5 days/week for several years and just ignored all the flushing I did - thinking it was healthy! I swear it had a lot to do in making my rosacea so bad (that and stress). My laser surgeon said if I do aerobics I will just have to come in that much sooner for another treatment. You don't need to do such intense exercise to stay healthy - and you really are worsening your rosacea. Patty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 26, 2000 Report Share Posted August 26, 2000 I'd > like to post that I am still doing aerobics, but not with quite the same > intensity because it does make me red. I thought it was just because I > was getting old (I'm 38) and that it was harder for my system to regroup > after exercise. > Robin, I will tell you what my laser surgeon told me after I had pulse dye. Don't do aerobics - find a less intense form of exercise. I highly recommend light weights - but really stretch and warm-up first. How about yoga or walking first? Weights increase your metabolism because you replace fat with muscle. I recommend Miriam 's book, Strong Women, Strong Bones. She is the woman from Tuft's University who started the study that proved weights can prevent osteoporosis and it's probably the most effective way of slimming down. You don't really sweat when you do them - and you do them indoors in airconditioning. You start with very light weights (do soup cans to learn the movements first) then 3 lbs, 5lbs - up to how high you want to go. I stopped at 15 lbs. and just maintained at that weight. Being 52 and hypothyroid I had a real struggle to lose weight. Weight Watchers actually depressed me because I wasn't able to lose the amount other women could. But once I started the weights, it changed everything. I was just careful about what I ate - and did not ever let myself get hungry - and I lost so much more easily. (You go by clothes size and not weight, because muscle weighs more than fat but takes up a lot less room). I did aerobics 5 days/week for several years and just ignored all the flushing I did - thinking it was healthy! I swear it had a lot to do in making my rosacea so bad (that and stress). My laser surgeon said if I do aerobics I will just have to come in that much sooner for another treatment. You don't need to do such intense exercise to stay healthy - and you really are worsening your rosacea. Patty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 26, 2000 Report Share Posted August 26, 2000 I'd > like to post that I am still doing aerobics, but not with quite the same > intensity because it does make me red. I thought it was just because I > was getting old (I'm 38) and that it was harder for my system to regroup > after exercise. > Robin, I will tell you what my laser surgeon told me after I had pulse dye. Don't do aerobics - find a less intense form of exercise. I highly recommend light weights - but really stretch and warm-up first. How about yoga or walking first? Weights increase your metabolism because you replace fat with muscle. I recommend Miriam 's book, Strong Women, Strong Bones. She is the woman from Tuft's University who started the study that proved weights can prevent osteoporosis and it's probably the most effective way of slimming down. You don't really sweat when you do them - and you do them indoors in airconditioning. You start with very light weights (do soup cans to learn the movements first) then 3 lbs, 5lbs - up to how high you want to go. I stopped at 15 lbs. and just maintained at that weight. Being 52 and hypothyroid I had a real struggle to lose weight. Weight Watchers actually depressed me because I wasn't able to lose the amount other women could. But once I started the weights, it changed everything. I was just careful about what I ate - and did not ever let myself get hungry - and I lost so much more easily. (You go by clothes size and not weight, because muscle weighs more than fat but takes up a lot less room). I did aerobics 5 days/week for several years and just ignored all the flushing I did - thinking it was healthy! I swear it had a lot to do in making my rosacea so bad (that and stress). My laser surgeon said if I do aerobics I will just have to come in that much sooner for another treatment. You don't need to do such intense exercise to stay healthy - and you really are worsening your rosacea. Patty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 26, 2000 Report Share Posted August 26, 2000 , I experience this too. In fact, I have had two large papules on my face (from having induldged in Mexican food last week) right now that turned into scabs. I thought it might have been that I scratch the bumps when I'm asleep because they can be a little itchy, but you're absolutely on the money about the blood pooling in there. I saw it. I am very gentle with my face too. I wasn't sure what was going on. I agree with you that it probably does have to do with rosacea and those damaged blood vessels. I've had this going on for years and never associated it with rosacea. I'm glad you brought this up because I thought I was the only one with the papules turning into scabs. I wonder if Dr. Nase will talk about this in his book. I hope so! Take care! Matija > Robin, > I have had the tiny pinpoint scabbing also. I have been very gentle > with my face and even in spots where I have barely touched the pimples I will > get blood fill up just a little behind the pimple. Almost like the pimple is > making a hollow spot and my blood vessels are breaking and the hole fills in > with blood. Then it turns into a scab. Does that sound like what you've been > experiencing? > I have even had where I have pimples it would fill in with blood and the > pimple would go away then there would be a smooth spot under the skin that > was filled with blood. The pimple would be totally gone just a flat spot > almost like a little bruise or a blood blister. They would last for a long > time before it would heal and the blood would get out of the area. I used to > think it was a blood pressure problem but my blood pressure it very good. Now > I think my blood vessels are very weak. Does anyone else experience anything > like this? > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 26, 2000 Report Share Posted August 26, 2000 , I experience this too. In fact, I have had two large papules on my face (from having induldged in Mexican food last week) right now that turned into scabs. I thought it might have been that I scratch the bumps when I'm asleep because they can be a little itchy, but you're absolutely on the money about the blood pooling in there. I saw it. I am very gentle with my face too. I wasn't sure what was going on. I agree with you that it probably does have to do with rosacea and those damaged blood vessels. I've had this going on for years and never associated it with rosacea. I'm glad you brought this up because I thought I was the only one with the papules turning into scabs. I wonder if Dr. Nase will talk about this in his book. I hope so! Take care! Matija > Robin, > I have had the tiny pinpoint scabbing also. I have been very gentle > with my face and even in spots where I have barely touched the pimples I will > get blood fill up just a little behind the pimple. Almost like the pimple is > making a hollow spot and my blood vessels are breaking and the hole fills in > with blood. Then it turns into a scab. Does that sound like what you've been > experiencing? > I have even had where I have pimples it would fill in with blood and the > pimple would go away then there would be a smooth spot under the skin that > was filled with blood. The pimple would be totally gone just a flat spot > almost like a little bruise or a blood blister. They would last for a long > time before it would heal and the blood would get out of the area. I used to > think it was a blood pressure problem but my blood pressure it very good. Now > I think my blood vessels are very weak. Does anyone else experience anything > like this? > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2012 Report Share Posted January 10, 2012 I was wondering how you all deal with the issue of exercise. As a chronic dieter, I had activity quotas and felt guilty when I fell short of them. Since starting IE in November, I let myself " exercise when I feel like it " and found that this is far less than I would like. How do I push myself without being pushy or guilting? This is one of the hardest things for me, as my Food Police were Exercise Police and are still very loud. thanks for your thoughts! Eden Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2012 Report Share Posted January 10, 2012 Thanks for your post. I nearly cried when I read the " underlying feelings of being incapable and not good enough " . It struck a deep raw nerve with me. And the rest of it helped too, about your intention and not getting burned out, and having variety. Sandy  My goal This year around exercise is to move consistantly so I have set the intention to move every other day for at least 30 min. I have found that if I do more than 30min. I usually hurt and then don't want to do it for a couple of days. If I do more than 1 day at a time I get burned out and/or I hurt. It is a balance for me between getting exercise in at all vs. Not over doing it. 30 min. Every other day is doable to me and feels good. What it consists of is Where the intuition comes in, sometimes it might be the treadmill, the bike, elliptical or a zumba class or the wii or a walk on a nice day. Hope this helps. When I am compulsive with my exercise it usually relates to underlying feelings of being incapable and not good enough and I have to deal with those feelings and baby myself. Alana Sent from my Verizon Wireless Phone --- Original Message --- From: edenhinshaw@... Sent: January 10, 2012 1/10/12 To: IntuitiveEating_Support Subject: Exercise  I was wondering how you all deal with the issue of exercise. As a chronic dieter, I had activity quotas and felt guilty when I fell short of them. Since starting IE in November, I let myself " exercise when I feel like it " and found that this is far less than I would like. How do I push myself without being pushy or guilting? This is one of the hardest things for me, as my Food Police were Exercise Police and are still very loud. thanks for your thoughts! Eden Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2012 Report Share Posted January 11, 2012 Zumba is so much FUN! Sent from my Verizon Wireless Phone --- Original Message --- Sent: January 10, 2012 1/10/12 To: IntuitiveEating_Support Subject: Re: Exercise  What a FUN post to read and so inspiring too. I even did a search on zumba and found several You Tube videos to SEE what this was all about. Sound like you have self discovered what some here call Intuitive Exercise :-) Inspiring and self incorporating too - what a way to GO. Katcha IEing since March 2007 > > I didn't realize exercise was such an issue for me until I read that if I exercise compulsively with the secret intent of offsetting a binge, the exercise is actually considered a form of purging. This hit me right between the eyes! I realized that when I felt annoyance toward someone/something interferring with my exercise time, it had very little to do with a " committment to good health " --much more to do with a committment to a small mountain of sweets! (I had a rather severe sugar addiction going.) After reading how exercise should be viewed thru IE eyes, I knew I needed to throw my " plan " (cardio these days, weight lifting these days, etc. etc.) completely out the window and try a paradigm shift. At first I was afraid I wouldn't want to exercise at all--it had become such an absolute CHORE and suddenly I was giving myself permission to only do it when I WANTED to, knowing at the same time that I had no piles of sweets to offset. To my surprise, I > found myself looking for every opportunity I could find to just take a brief walk--walking suddenly felt good! I more joy in taking a few deep breaths of fresh air while walking briskly than I ever had in food. Then I discovered the utter joy of zumba! (Shocking consider my utter lack of dance skills!) Then I discovered my toddler quite enjoys doing Wii Fit with his mommy, and that his baby brother enjoys watching us both. Without making a hard-core " plan " , I'd managed to find 3 avenues of exercise that I actually ENJOYED doing and looked foward to! Was this possible?! >  > Then things got to a whole new level thanks to a sound bite from the Tesh Radio Show. He talked about how study after study is revealing how many calories people burn when they fidget--and something clicked. There may be numerous life phases which make carving 30 min out of my day for a workout near IMPOSSIBLE (reference above-mentioned munchkins), but there's no reason I can't move throughout my day. I started experimenting with doing simple step touches while doing tasks which don't require precision...drying my hair, sauteeing meat, bathing the baby, washing dishes, etc. After about a week of consciously doing this, I realized my body was starting to do it automatically. Then I realized my weight loss had picked up speed in response. But it gets better...I soon realized I wasn't just moving anymore--I was DANCING! My simplistic little step-touches were morphing into a salsa, a samba, the charleston, and several fun little variations I made up > along the way. Did you catch the key word there? FUN! Even in moments of extreme stress, I'll turn up the music and feel my body catch a rhythm as I go about my daily tasks. I no longer stress about whether I " worked out " on a particular day--b/c I know that I moved and experienced joy in it! >  > Oh and yesterday was the absolute icing on the cake (pardon the pun)...on my way home from work, I realized I was craving something--not an iced coffee, not a taco, not a cheeseburger--but EXERCISE! I came home and danced along with the Wii and the toddler, thoroughly enjoying the experience and thinking to myself " How was exercise EVER a chore? This feels GREAT! " IE has truly changed my life and my perspective in everything from food to exercise. I am SO thankful not to have jumped on a diet bandwagon again! > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2012 Report Share Posted January 11, 2012 Thanks Tilley! I may be feeling like a have to have a " session " of fat burning rather than an enjoyable time of moving my body. i have been surfing posts and reading about everyone's approach to exercise and the best advice seems to be to make it intuitive as well, which embodies your sis-in-law's advice. Perhaps if I release the need to exercise to offset my increased eating I can learn to do it for reasons that I enjoy. I know that I am still holding on to my dieting mentality and need to be kinder and gentler to myself. > > > > I was wondering how you all deal with the issue of exercise. As a chronic dieter, I had activity quotas and felt guilty when I fell short of them. Since starting IE in November, I let myself " exercise when I feel like it " and found that this is far less than I would like. How do I push myself without being pushy or guilting? This is one of the hardest things for me, as my Food Police were Exercise Police and are still very loud. thanks for your thoughts! > > Eden > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2012 Report Share Posted January 11, 2012 Thanks Tilley! I may be feeling like a have to have a " session " of fat burning rather than an enjoyable time of moving my body. i have been surfing posts and reading about everyone's approach to exercise and the best advice seems to be to make it intuitive as well, which embodies your sis-in-law's advice. Perhaps if I release the need to exercise to offset my increased eating I can learn to do it for reasons that I enjoy. I know that I am still holding on to my dieting mentality and need to be kinder and gentler to myself. > > > > I was wondering how you all deal with the issue of exercise. As a chronic dieter, I had activity quotas and felt guilty when I fell short of them. Since starting IE in November, I let myself " exercise when I feel like it " and found that this is far less than I would like. How do I push myself without being pushy or guilting? This is one of the hardest things for me, as my Food Police were Exercise Police and are still very loud. thanks for your thoughts! > > Eden > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2012 Report Share Posted January 11, 2012 Tilley, I like that a lot. I have been struggling with the idea of exercise for a while now. I have been told so many times that if it's not very difficult or if you are not ready to drop at the end you are not really doing anything and shouldn't bother. I have even been told (by a trainer no less) to not bother walking because it was not exercise and would do nothing beneficial for me. I know that these statements are dead WRONG, but I can't pull myself away from this thinking yet. Mimi Subject: Re: ExerciseTo: IntuitiveEating_Support Date: Tuesday, January 10, 2012, 10:36 AM I wonder if you are still thinking that exercise has to be HARD to count. Many years ago when I started exercising regularly,my sister in law said the best thing in the world to me, that has kept me going for over ten years. (I apologize for saying this again, for the folks who've already heard me say this). But she said that it's better to go slow than to not go at all. Every single time I go to the pool to swim laps, I tell myself that I can go as slowly as I want. I most often don't, but just the fact that I am "allowed" to is enormously helpful to me.I have found that I get really cranky when I don't exercise, and tht it always makes me feel good, and I sleep so much better, but if it's too hard, like the couple of times I tried to do a spinning class here at school, that I didn't want to do it anymore. But the feeling good when I do it, and cranky when I don't is enough motivation for me. But then I really have been pretty active most of my life, and exercise never figured into any kind of diet police mentality (a quick look at calories expenditures told me that I would never be able to exercise off what I ate, so I never bothered to try).But I have also been excising less since starting IE, though I think that has more to do with injuring my heel than anything else.Tilley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2012 Report Share Posted January 11, 2012 , Reading your post reminded me how much fun I used to have doing the same thing, dancing around while doing my household chores. I always felt better mentally, as well as physically. I don't know why I got out of the habit of it, but thank you for the reminder! Ann To: "IntuitiveEating_Support " <IntuitiveEating_Support > Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2012 9:10 PM Subject: Re: Exercise I didn't realize exercise was such an issue for me until I read that if I exercise compulsively with the secret intent of offsetting a binge, the exercise is actually considered a form of purging. This hit me right between the eyes! I realized that when I felt annoyance toward someone/something interferring with my exercise time, it had very little to do with a "committment to good health"--much more to do with a committment to a small mountain of sweets! (I had a rather severe sugar addiction going.) After reading how exercise should be viewed thru IE eyes, I knew I needed to throw my "plan" (cardio these days, weight lifting these days, etc. etc.) completely out the window and try a paradigm shift. At first I was afraid I wouldn't want to exercise at all--it had become such an absolute CHORE and suddenly I was giving myself permission to only do it when I WANTED to, knowing at the same time that I had no piles of sweets to offset. To my surprise, I found myself looking for every opportunity I could find to just take a brief walk--walking suddenly felt good! I more joy in taking a few deep breaths of fresh air while walking briskly than I ever had in food. Then I discovered the utter joy of zumba! (Shocking consider my utter lack of dance skills!) Then I discovered my toddler quite enjoys doing Wii Fit with his mommy, and that his baby brother enjoys watching us both. Without making a hard-core "plan", I'd managed to find 3 avenues of exercise that I actually ENJOYED doing and looked foward to! Was this possible?! Then things got to a whole new level thanks to a sound bite from the Tesh Radio Show. He talked about how study after study is revealing how many calories people burn when they fidget--and something clicked. There may be numerous life phases which make carving 30 min out of my day for a workout near IMPOSSIBLE (reference above-mentioned munchkins), but there's no reason I can't move throughout my day. I started experimenting with doing simple step touches while doing tasks which don't require precision...drying my hair, sauteeing meat, bathing the baby, washing dishes, etc. After about a week of consciously doing this, I realized my body was starting to do it automatically. Then I realized my weight loss had picked up speed in response. But it gets better...I soon realized I wasn't just moving anymore--I was DANCING! My simplistic little step-touches were morphing into a salsa, a samba, the charleston, and several fun little variations I made up along the way. Did you catch the key word there? FUN! Even in moments of extreme stress, I'll turn up the music and feel my body catch a rhythm as I go about my daily tasks. I no longer stress about whether I "worked out" on a particular day--b/c I know that I moved and experienced joy in it! Oh and yesterday was the absolute icing on the cake (pardon the pun)...on my way home from work, I realized I was craving something--not an iced coffee, not a taco, not a cheeseburger--but EXERCISE! I came home and danced along with the Wii and the toddler, thoroughly enjoying the experience and thinking to myself "How was exercise EVER a chore? This feels GREAT!" IE has truly changed my life and my perspective in everything from food to exercise. I am SO thankful not to have jumped on a diet bandwagon again! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2012 Report Share Posted January 11, 2012 , Reading your post reminded me how much fun I used to have doing the same thing, dancing around while doing my household chores. I always felt better mentally, as well as physically. I don't know why I got out of the habit of it, but thank you for the reminder! Ann To: "IntuitiveEating_Support " <IntuitiveEating_Support > Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2012 9:10 PM Subject: Re: Exercise I didn't realize exercise was such an issue for me until I read that if I exercise compulsively with the secret intent of offsetting a binge, the exercise is actually considered a form of purging. This hit me right between the eyes! I realized that when I felt annoyance toward someone/something interferring with my exercise time, it had very little to do with a "committment to good health"--much more to do with a committment to a small mountain of sweets! (I had a rather severe sugar addiction going.) After reading how exercise should be viewed thru IE eyes, I knew I needed to throw my "plan" (cardio these days, weight lifting these days, etc. etc.) completely out the window and try a paradigm shift. At first I was afraid I wouldn't want to exercise at all--it had become such an absolute CHORE and suddenly I was giving myself permission to only do it when I WANTED to, knowing at the same time that I had no piles of sweets to offset. To my surprise, I found myself looking for every opportunity I could find to just take a brief walk--walking suddenly felt good! I more joy in taking a few deep breaths of fresh air while walking briskly than I ever had in food. Then I discovered the utter joy of zumba! (Shocking consider my utter lack of dance skills!) Then I discovered my toddler quite enjoys doing Wii Fit with his mommy, and that his baby brother enjoys watching us both. Without making a hard-core "plan", I'd managed to find 3 avenues of exercise that I actually ENJOYED doing and looked foward to! Was this possible?! Then things got to a whole new level thanks to a sound bite from the Tesh Radio Show. He talked about how study after study is revealing how many calories people burn when they fidget--and something clicked. There may be numerous life phases which make carving 30 min out of my day for a workout near IMPOSSIBLE (reference above-mentioned munchkins), but there's no reason I can't move throughout my day. I started experimenting with doing simple step touches while doing tasks which don't require precision...drying my hair, sauteeing meat, bathing the baby, washing dishes, etc. After about a week of consciously doing this, I realized my body was starting to do it automatically. Then I realized my weight loss had picked up speed in response. But it gets better...I soon realized I wasn't just moving anymore--I was DANCING! My simplistic little step-touches were morphing into a salsa, a samba, the charleston, and several fun little variations I made up along the way. Did you catch the key word there? FUN! Even in moments of extreme stress, I'll turn up the music and feel my body catch a rhythm as I go about my daily tasks. I no longer stress about whether I "worked out" on a particular day--b/c I know that I moved and experienced joy in it! Oh and yesterday was the absolute icing on the cake (pardon the pun)...on my way home from work, I realized I was craving something--not an iced coffee, not a taco, not a cheeseburger--but EXERCISE! I came home and danced along with the Wii and the toddler, thoroughly enjoying the experience and thinking to myself "How was exercise EVER a chore? This feels GREAT!" IE has truly changed my life and my perspective in everything from food to exercise. I am SO thankful not to have jumped on a diet bandwagon again! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2012 Report Share Posted January 11, 2012 What a good reminder of incorporating " exercise " into daily life, like dancing around the kitchen and even singing a little song maybe. Sandy  , Reading your post reminded me how much fun I used to have doing the same thing, dancing around while doing my household chores. I always felt better mentally, as well as physically. I don't know why I got out of the habit of it, but thank you for the reminder! Ann To: " IntuitiveEating_Support " <IntuitiveEating_Support > Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2012 9:10 PM Subject: Re: Exercise  I didn't realize exercise was such an issue for me until I read that if I exercise compulsively with the secret intent of offsetting a binge, the exercise is actually considered a form of purging. This hit me right between the eyes! I realized that when I felt annoyance toward someone/something interferring with my exercise time, it had very little to do with a " committment to good health " --much more to do with a committment to a small mountain of sweets! (I had a rather severe sugar addiction going.) After reading how exercise should be viewed thru IE eyes, I knew I needed to throw my " plan " (cardio these days, weight lifting these days, etc. etc.) completely out the window and try a paradigm shift. At first I was afraid I wouldn't want to exercise at all--it had become such an absolute CHORE and suddenly I was giving myself permission to only do it when I WANTED to, knowing at the same time that I had no piles of sweets to offset. To my surprise, I found myself looking for every opportunity I could find to just take a brief walk--walking suddenly felt good! I more joy in taking a few deep breaths of fresh air while walking briskly than I ever had in food. Then I discovered the utter joy of zumba! (Shocking consider my utter lack of dance skills!) Then I discovered my toddler quite enjoys doing Wii Fit with his mommy, and that his baby brother enjoys watching us both. Without making a hard-core " plan " , I'd managed to find 3 avenues of exercise that I actually ENJOYED doing and looked foward to! Was this possible?!  Then things got to a whole new level thanks to a sound bite from the Tesh Radio Show. He talked about how study after study is revealing how many calories people burn when they fidget--and something clicked. There may be numerous life phases which make carving 30 min out of my day for a workout near IMPOSSIBLE (reference above-mentioned munchkins), but there's no reason I can't move throughout my day. I started experimenting with doing simple step touches while doing tasks which don't require precision...drying my hair, sauteeing meat, bathing the baby, washing dishes, etc. After about a week of consciously doing this, I realized my body was starting to do it automatically. Then I realized my weight loss had picked up speed in response. But it gets better...I soon realized I wasn't just moving anymore--I was DANCING! My simplistic little step-touches were morphing into a salsa, a samba, the charleston, and several fun little variations I made up along the way. Did you catch the key word there? FUN! Even in moments of extreme stress, I'll turn up the music and feel my body catch a rhythm as I go about my daily tasks. I no longer stress about whether I " worked out " on a particular day--b/c I know that I moved and experienced joy in it!  Oh and yesterday was the absolute icing on the cake (pardon the pun)...on my way home from work, I realized I was craving something--not an iced coffee, not a taco, not a cheeseburger--but EXERCISE! I came home and danced along with the Wii and the toddler, thoroughly enjoying the experience and thinking to myself " How was exercise EVER a chore? This feels GREAT! " IE has truly changed my life and my perspective in everything from food to exercise. I am SO thankful not to have jumped on a diet bandwagon again! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2012 Report Share Posted January 11, 2012 I bet you have made a baby step away from that type of thinking by just having brought it to your awareness ;-) I do hope that when you do walk, just for the pleasure of movement, you smile and think of how WRONG those 'experts' are :-) ehugs, Katcha IEing since March 2007 >I have even been told (by a trainer no less) to not bother walking because it was not exercise and would do nothing beneficial for me. I know that these statements are dead WRONG, but I can't pull myself away from this thinking yet. > Â > Mimi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2012 Report Share Posted January 11, 2012 When I would walk on the beach and see all those folks jogging who never saw the sunrise or the birds, crabs, seashells, I would feel bad at what they were missing. When I walk I try to notice nature because that's what gives me pleasure and joy. I don't think I would want to use a walkman either, although some nice music might be ok. One lady here in my neighborhood walks every day and I applaud her for that. But she is always chatting on her phone and that wouldn't work for me. At least she walks and that's ore than I can say for myself at this time. I've been hampered by many medical issues for a couple of years but that will change. Swimming, or rather " walking " in the pool, works better for my joints too. I guess it all depends on each person. I do like to bike on my 3 wheeler(balance not ok for regular bike).  Dancing is nice too. I guess there are lots of choices. I would love to try zumba but then again is the balance/joint issue. Maybe I can get back to yoga soon. I found a CD with a yoga routine for seniors done in a chair. Haven't tried it yet. To be honest, I play too many computer games or time on these support groups(I am on 2 for different reasons). Some day maybe I will find a balance. Then I say to myself " If not now, when " . Sandy  I bet you have made a baby step away from that type of thinking by just having brought it to your awareness ;-) I do hope that when you do walk, just for the pleasure of movement, you smile and think of how WRONG those 'experts' are :-) ehugs, Katcha IEing since March 2007 >I have even been told (by a trainer no less) to not bother walking because it was not exercise and would do nothing beneficial for me. I know that these statements are dead WRONG, but I can't pull myself away from this thinking yet. >  > Mimi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2012 Report Share Posted January 11, 2012 When I would walk on the beach and see all those folks jogging who never saw the sunrise or the birds, crabs, seashells, I would feel bad at what they were missing. When I walk I try to notice nature because that's what gives me pleasure and joy. I don't think I would want to use a walkman either, although some nice music might be ok. One lady here in my neighborhood walks every day and I applaud her for that. But she is always chatting on her phone and that wouldn't work for me. At least she walks and that's ore than I can say for myself at this time. I've been hampered by many medical issues for a couple of years but that will change. Swimming, or rather " walking " in the pool, works better for my joints too. I guess it all depends on each person. I do like to bike on my 3 wheeler(balance not ok for regular bike).  Dancing is nice too. I guess there are lots of choices. I would love to try zumba but then again is the balance/joint issue. Maybe I can get back to yoga soon. I found a CD with a yoga routine for seniors done in a chair. Haven't tried it yet. To be honest, I play too many computer games or time on these support groups(I am on 2 for different reasons). Some day maybe I will find a balance. Then I say to myself " If not now, when " . Sandy  I bet you have made a baby step away from that type of thinking by just having brought it to your awareness ;-) I do hope that when you do walk, just for the pleasure of movement, you smile and think of how WRONG those 'experts' are :-) ehugs, Katcha IEing since March 2007 >I have even been told (by a trainer no less) to not bother walking because it was not exercise and would do nothing beneficial for me. I know that these statements are dead WRONG, but I can't pull myself away from this thinking yet. >  > Mimi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2012 Report Share Posted January 11, 2012 I'm totally with you here, Sandy. Being present is what life is all about. That and balance...I'm working on both. " Progress, not perfection... " > When I walk I try to notice nature because that's what > gives me pleasure and joy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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