Guest guest Posted January 6, 2003 Report Share Posted January 6, 2003 Hi I know exactly where you are coming from. I wouldn't change a single thing, she wouldn't be Liesel without ASD and if somebody took it away tomorrow we would lose our daughter. All of this makes her who she is and it is what gives her, her place in society. This poem just really touched me because I could identify with it! We had the " I am sorry " too for what??? No...it is a struggle all round every day but I wouldn't swap a second of it. Of course there are lots of things I wished she wouldn't do...but then I could say that about everybody I know. Louisa > When Sully and Trevayne first got their diagnosis, I heard a lot of " I'm sorry " from the people whom I told. The thing was, I didn't see anything to be sorry about. I know that my boys will have greater challenges than their peers in many ways. Just living in a world that often times doesn't make sense to them is a challenge but life is full of challenges an AS is just one. > When I would hear " I am so sorry " I would look that person square in the eyes (which is as hard for me to do as it is for them) and reply: " I'm not. They have Asperger's. They have brown eyes. AS is part of them just like their eye color. I wouldn't change them for the world. " And I wouldn't. I have been asked on occasion if I was presented a cure for AS would use it for the boys. Sure it breaks my heart sometimes when I see them struggling with things that their peers take for granted but to take away their AS would take away who they are. With out a doubt I could not do that. Some of their greatest qualities are the very same qualities that lead them to the diagnosis. My boys will do great things not despite their AS not even because of it but because they are great. They will make their mark and though they not become famous or rich, the lives that they touch will be all the brighter because of them. Yes, my boys will do great things. Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2003 Report Share Posted January 6, 2003 Am I the only person who would give my child the cure in an instant, if it existed? I cannot see choosing a life of struggle over normalcy. I don't think giving my son a " cure " would change **who** he is ... it would allow him to shine more brightly, it would allow him to express himself, share himself. To me, his autism is like a shadow, a curtain that separates him from the world. Sometimes he can part that curtain and for a brief shining moment, I see Jordan in all his glory ... and then the curtain closes and he is shrouded again. How could I choose to keep him wrapped in a cocoon? Debbie P.S. - Who may be misunderstanding what people are saying ... and is not condemning their points of view ... but is sharing her point of view. P.P.S. - And who may still be light years away from " acceptance " . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2003 Report Share Posted January 6, 2003 Am I the only person who would give my child the cure in an instant, if it existed? I cannot see choosing a life of struggle over normalcy. I don't think giving my son a " cure " would change **who** he is ... it would allow him to shine more brightly, it would allow him to express himself, share himself. To me, his autism is like a shadow, a curtain that separates him from the world. Sometimes he can part that curtain and for a brief shining moment, I see Jordan in all his glory ... and then the curtain closes and he is shrouded again. How could I choose to keep him wrapped in a cocoon? Debbie P.S. - Who may be misunderstanding what people are saying ... and is not condemning their points of view ... but is sharing her point of view. P.P.S. - And who may still be light years away from " acceptance " . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2003 Report Share Posted January 6, 2003 Am I the only person who would give my child the cure in an instant, if it existed? I cannot see choosing a life of struggle over normalcy. I don't think giving my son a " cure " would change **who** he is ... it would allow him to shine more brightly, it would allow him to express himself, share himself. To me, his autism is like a shadow, a curtain that separates him from the world. Sometimes he can part that curtain and for a brief shining moment, I see Jordan in all his glory ... and then the curtain closes and he is shrouded again. How could I choose to keep him wrapped in a cocoon? Debbie P.S. - Who may be misunderstanding what people are saying ... and is not condemning their points of view ... but is sharing her point of view. P.P.S. - And who may still be light years away from " acceptance " . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2003 Report Share Posted January 6, 2003 If this makes sense at all, I'd like to just relieve his stress around other children, but everything else, I'd leave the same, even the lack of language, the spinning, etc. I love everything about this child, but I would just like him to enjoy childhood more, without the fear or anxiety. I don't want to change it for me, I want to change it for him. ellen --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.435 / Virus Database: 244 - Release Date: 12/30/2002 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2003 Report Share Posted January 6, 2003 If this makes sense at all, I'd like to just relieve his stress around other children, but everything else, I'd leave the same, even the lack of language, the spinning, etc. I love everything about this child, but I would just like him to enjoy childhood more, without the fear or anxiety. I don't want to change it for me, I want to change it for him. ellen --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.435 / Virus Database: 244 - Release Date: 12/30/2002 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2003 Report Share Posted January 6, 2003 If this makes sense at all, I'd like to just relieve his stress around other children, but everything else, I'd leave the same, even the lack of language, the spinning, etc. I love everything about this child, but I would just like him to enjoy childhood more, without the fear or anxiety. I don't want to change it for me, I want to change it for him. ellen --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.435 / Virus Database: 244 - Release Date: 12/30/2002 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2003 Report Share Posted January 6, 2003 > I think whether or not you'd take the magic cure depends a LOT on how > impaired by autism you feel your child is. For example, I am one of those Precisely what I was going to say. If I could take away the bad parts, and leave the good parts, and still have the child I know and love -- well, I think I just said it. -Sara. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2003 Report Share Posted January 6, 2003 > I think whether or not you'd take the magic cure depends a LOT on how > impaired by autism you feel your child is. For example, I am one of those Precisely what I was going to say. If I could take away the bad parts, and leave the good parts, and still have the child I know and love -- well, I think I just said it. -Sara. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2003 Report Share Posted January 6, 2003 > I think whether or not you'd take the magic cure depends a LOT on how > impaired by autism you feel your child is. For example, I am one of those Precisely what I was going to say. If I could take away the bad parts, and leave the good parts, and still have the child I know and love -- well, I think I just said it. -Sara. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2003 Report Share Posted January 6, 2003 > I would just like him to enjoy childhood more, without the fear or anxiety. I don't want to change it for me, I want to change it for him. ellen < maryellen, that's EXACTLY the reason i finally decided to get her on meds. when it came to the point where she was too paranoid to leave the house, i knew something had to be done and i am SO glad i did. " Something important to remember...we'll always be who we are. " - Mr. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2003 Report Share Posted January 6, 2003 > I would just like him to enjoy childhood more, without the fear or anxiety. I don't want to change it for me, I want to change it for him. ellen < maryellen, that's EXACTLY the reason i finally decided to get her on meds. when it came to the point where she was too paranoid to leave the house, i knew something had to be done and i am SO glad i did. " Something important to remember...we'll always be who we are. " - Mr. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2003 Report Share Posted January 6, 2003 > I would just like him to enjoy childhood more, without the fear or anxiety. I don't want to change it for me, I want to change it for him. ellen < maryellen, that's EXACTLY the reason i finally decided to get her on meds. when it came to the point where she was too paranoid to leave the house, i knew something had to be done and i am SO glad i did. " Something important to remember...we'll always be who we are. " - Mr. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2003 Report Share Posted January 6, 2003 Acceptance, I think, is only the place where you can stop mourning and start living and moving forward. HOW you live and move forward varies from person to person. Very true. We all have gone through the mourning. Some pass through the stages more quickly than others. For me I cried the day after Sully was dx. I was inconsolable. Then that was it. I went on. After Trevayne was dx, I went into a depression which was pretty severe for about six weeks, then one day I decided that for me (and I am speaking from my experience only which may be very different from everyone else) the longer I wallowed in my depression was one more day I was not doing all I could for my son(s). From that point on I moved on. I can't ask myself what it would be like if they were " normal " They will never be like what society calls normal but I do beleive with all my heart that they will be successful and have fullfilling lives. I have to focus on the positive or I will be overwhelmed and I can't allow that. I do have days when my heart breaks for them I won't say that I look at life through rose colored glasses not by any strech of the imagination (that's why I take the little blue pills) but this is one area where I must move forward for me and for them. I think whether or not you'd take the magic cure depends a LOT on how impaired by autism you feel your child is. For example, I am one of those people who would NOT accept the cure, choosing instead to leave exactly how he is. But my child is incredibly high-functioning. My kids too are high functioning. Perhaps if they were not I would want that cure too. Thankfully I am not in the position to say that I wish they weren't the way they are. I see 's autism as a filter the world goes through to get to him. Exactly that is how I would decribe my kids as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2003 Report Share Posted January 6, 2003 Acceptance, I think, is only the place where you can stop mourning and start living and moving forward. HOW you live and move forward varies from person to person. Very true. We all have gone through the mourning. Some pass through the stages more quickly than others. For me I cried the day after Sully was dx. I was inconsolable. Then that was it. I went on. After Trevayne was dx, I went into a depression which was pretty severe for about six weeks, then one day I decided that for me (and I am speaking from my experience only which may be very different from everyone else) the longer I wallowed in my depression was one more day I was not doing all I could for my son(s). From that point on I moved on. I can't ask myself what it would be like if they were " normal " They will never be like what society calls normal but I do beleive with all my heart that they will be successful and have fullfilling lives. I have to focus on the positive or I will be overwhelmed and I can't allow that. I do have days when my heart breaks for them I won't say that I look at life through rose colored glasses not by any strech of the imagination (that's why I take the little blue pills) but this is one area where I must move forward for me and for them. I think whether or not you'd take the magic cure depends a LOT on how impaired by autism you feel your child is. For example, I am one of those people who would NOT accept the cure, choosing instead to leave exactly how he is. But my child is incredibly high-functioning. My kids too are high functioning. Perhaps if they were not I would want that cure too. Thankfully I am not in the position to say that I wish they weren't the way they are. I see 's autism as a filter the world goes through to get to him. Exactly that is how I would decribe my kids as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2003 Report Share Posted January 6, 2003 Acceptance, I think, is only the place where you can stop mourning and start living and moving forward. HOW you live and move forward varies from person to person. Very true. We all have gone through the mourning. Some pass through the stages more quickly than others. For me I cried the day after Sully was dx. I was inconsolable. Then that was it. I went on. After Trevayne was dx, I went into a depression which was pretty severe for about six weeks, then one day I decided that for me (and I am speaking from my experience only which may be very different from everyone else) the longer I wallowed in my depression was one more day I was not doing all I could for my son(s). From that point on I moved on. I can't ask myself what it would be like if they were " normal " They will never be like what society calls normal but I do beleive with all my heart that they will be successful and have fullfilling lives. I have to focus on the positive or I will be overwhelmed and I can't allow that. I do have days when my heart breaks for them I won't say that I look at life through rose colored glasses not by any strech of the imagination (that's why I take the little blue pills) but this is one area where I must move forward for me and for them. I think whether or not you'd take the magic cure depends a LOT on how impaired by autism you feel your child is. For example, I am one of those people who would NOT accept the cure, choosing instead to leave exactly how he is. But my child is incredibly high-functioning. My kids too are high functioning. Perhaps if they were not I would want that cure too. Thankfully I am not in the position to say that I wish they weren't the way they are. I see 's autism as a filter the world goes through to get to him. Exactly that is how I would decribe my kids as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2003 Report Share Posted January 6, 2003 ________________________________________________________________________ > ________________________________________________________________________ > > Message: 14 > Date: Mon, 6 Jan 2003 20:40:32 -0500 > > Subject: RE: Re: This got me...I had to share! > > Am I the only person who would give my child the cure in an instant, if > it existed? No. :-) ~ Karin p.s. I did enjoy the poem Louisa sent in about not mentally putting limits on what our children can accomplish! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2003 Report Share Posted January 6, 2003 ________________________________________________________________________ > ________________________________________________________________________ > > Message: 14 > Date: Mon, 6 Jan 2003 20:40:32 -0500 > > Subject: RE: Re: This got me...I had to share! > > Am I the only person who would give my child the cure in an instant, if > it existed? No. :-) ~ Karin p.s. I did enjoy the poem Louisa sent in about not mentally putting limits on what our children can accomplish! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2003 Report Share Posted January 6, 2003 ________________________________________________________________________ > ________________________________________________________________________ > > Message: 14 > Date: Mon, 6 Jan 2003 20:40:32 -0500 > > Subject: RE: Re: This got me...I had to share! > > Am I the only person who would give my child the cure in an instant, if > it existed? No. :-) ~ Karin p.s. I did enjoy the poem Louisa sent in about not mentally putting limits on what our children can accomplish! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2003 Report Share Posted January 6, 2003 > Am I the only person who would give my child the cure in an instant, if it existed? > Nope. I would. In a heart beat. I want to see 's eyes sparkle like they used to. Tina Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2003 Report Share Posted January 6, 2003 > Am I the only person who would give my child the cure in an instant, if it existed? > Nope. I would. In a heart beat. I want to see 's eyes sparkle like they used to. Tina Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2003 Report Share Posted January 6, 2003 > Am I the only person who would give my child the cure in an instant, if it existed? > Nope. I would. In a heart beat. I want to see 's eyes sparkle like they used to. Tina Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2003 Report Share Posted January 6, 2003 > has been the way he is since the day he was born. < kailey too. she was another one who was kicking off her blankets in the hospital " Something important to remember...we'll always be who we are. " - Mr. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2003 Report Share Posted January 6, 2003 > > > > > I want to see 's eyes sparkle like they used to. > > > > Tina > > > I definitely think that makes a difference to the hope for a cure, too -- whether or not your child 'vanished'. > It makes a huge difference. I can look at and see that he will have a " normal " life. He will be able to function in society and possibly very well. I don't think all Aspies should be cured at all. After all, some of the traits that make them Aspies are what make the best engineers and inventors. We need people like that. But for a child like who is trapped within her own mind much of the time and wants so desperately to be part of the world around her. Yes, I would wave that magic wand. There's no hesitation or second guessing there. Tina Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2003 Report Share Posted January 7, 2003 > Very true. We all have gone through the mourning. Some pass through the stages more quickly than others. For me I cried the day after Sully was dx. I was inconsolable. I cried the day Putter turned three. I could no longer deny that a three year old who did not open birthday gifts had a serious problem. He was my fourth child after all. I did not cry at the dx. In fact, I told them, " Don't worry that I will be upset if you tell me he has autism because I already know that. " Salli Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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