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I think that sounds like a good idea, but that's just my 2 cents.

Mia

>

> That's the short & simple in code form. My nada is starting to send me & my

> husband $$$ for our birthdays. It doesn't feel good. We don't want their

> strings-attached; you owe us; guilt-laced dollars. Especially because we

> were painted as the helpless mooches— the ones who couldn't make it on our

> own without their help... which is BS. My idea is to cash the checks, give

> the $$$ to charity, and send them a note saying that we gave the money in

> their name to charity. It seems that refusing the $$$ would cause a ruckus,

> trying to talk about our feelings for not wanting it...pointless. This would

> keep the equation neutral. I don't think they'd be able to say much. What do

> you think? Good/ Bad decision. I feel a bit unsure. Any comments would be

> much appreciated.

>

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I think that sounds like a good idea, but that's just my 2 cents.

Mia

>

> That's the short & simple in code form. My nada is starting to send me & my

> husband $$$ for our birthdays. It doesn't feel good. We don't want their

> strings-attached; you owe us; guilt-laced dollars. Especially because we

> were painted as the helpless mooches— the ones who couldn't make it on our

> own without their help... which is BS. My idea is to cash the checks, give

> the $$$ to charity, and send them a note saying that we gave the money in

> their name to charity. It seems that refusing the $$$ would cause a ruckus,

> trying to talk about our feelings for not wanting it...pointless. This would

> keep the equation neutral. I don't think they'd be able to say much. What do

> you think? Good/ Bad decision. I feel a bit unsure. Any comments would be

> much appreciated.

>

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I think that sounds like a good idea, but that's just my 2 cents.

Mia

>

> That's the short & simple in code form. My nada is starting to send me & my

> husband $$$ for our birthdays. It doesn't feel good. We don't want their

> strings-attached; you owe us; guilt-laced dollars. Especially because we

> were painted as the helpless mooches— the ones who couldn't make it on our

> own without their help... which is BS. My idea is to cash the checks, give

> the $$$ to charity, and send them a note saying that we gave the money in

> their name to charity. It seems that refusing the $$$ would cause a ruckus,

> trying to talk about our feelings for not wanting it...pointless. This would

> keep the equation neutral. I don't think they'd be able to say much. What do

> you think? Good/ Bad decision. I feel a bit unsure. Any comments would be

> much appreciated.

>

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My advice is to tear the checks up with no explanation. If you accept the money

by cashing the check, even if you give it to charity, you have " taken " their

money and they'll still be able to label you as " helpless mooches " (even if its

not true; all they'll base it on is that you cashed their check.)

All gifts from my nada had always come with strings attached, and I stopped

accepting gifts of any kind from her several years back because of that. Then,

the final straw was learning that my nada stated that I and my Sister only ever

came to see her because " we wanted something from her (meaning, money) " . For

me, that was " all she wrote " and I went No Contact.

You'll have to figure out what will work for you, but that's what I'd do. Your

parents will neither understand nor accept any explanation you give them, so

just pretend the checks don't exist. Destroy them.

-Annie

>

> Hi Everyone,

>

> I've been off the grid for a while. The quick history:

> •nada (typical BPD-witch/waif); fada (nada's always right)

> •2 siblings (I was split all good—became all bad)

> •'06 family meltdown about aging parents/elder care

> •'06-'08 discover BPD; join this group; therapy; recovery; NC

> •'09 family health crisis— break NC; crisis passes (false alarm); LC

> •'10 maintain LC (new boundaries... never drive with nada/fada; never allow

them to pay for meals,etc.

>

> That's the short & simple in code form. My nada is starting to send me & my

husband $$$ for our birthdays. It doesn't feel good. We don't want their

strings-attached; you owe us; guilt-laced dollars. Especially because we were

painted as the helpless mooches— the ones who couldn't make it on our own

without their help... which is BS. My idea is to cash the checks, give the $$$

to charity, and send them a note saying that we gave the money in their name to

charity. It seems that refusing the $$$ would cause a ruckus, trying to talk

about our feelings for not wanting it...pointless. This would keep the equation

neutral. I don't think they'd be able to say much. What do you think? Good/ Bad

decision. I feel a bit unsure. Any comments would be much appreciated.

>

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My advice is to tear the checks up with no explanation. If you accept the money

by cashing the check, even if you give it to charity, you have " taken " their

money and they'll still be able to label you as " helpless mooches " (even if its

not true; all they'll base it on is that you cashed their check.)

All gifts from my nada had always come with strings attached, and I stopped

accepting gifts of any kind from her several years back because of that. Then,

the final straw was learning that my nada stated that I and my Sister only ever

came to see her because " we wanted something from her (meaning, money) " . For

me, that was " all she wrote " and I went No Contact.

You'll have to figure out what will work for you, but that's what I'd do. Your

parents will neither understand nor accept any explanation you give them, so

just pretend the checks don't exist. Destroy them.

-Annie

>

> Hi Everyone,

>

> I've been off the grid for a while. The quick history:

> •nada (typical BPD-witch/waif); fada (nada's always right)

> •2 siblings (I was split all good—became all bad)

> •'06 family meltdown about aging parents/elder care

> •'06-'08 discover BPD; join this group; therapy; recovery; NC

> •'09 family health crisis— break NC; crisis passes (false alarm); LC

> •'10 maintain LC (new boundaries... never drive with nada/fada; never allow

them to pay for meals,etc.

>

> That's the short & simple in code form. My nada is starting to send me & my

husband $$$ for our birthdays. It doesn't feel good. We don't want their

strings-attached; you owe us; guilt-laced dollars. Especially because we were

painted as the helpless mooches— the ones who couldn't make it on our own

without their help... which is BS. My idea is to cash the checks, give the $$$

to charity, and send them a note saying that we gave the money in their name to

charity. It seems that refusing the $$$ would cause a ruckus, trying to talk

about our feelings for not wanting it...pointless. This would keep the equation

neutral. I don't think they'd be able to say much. What do you think? Good/ Bad

decision. I feel a bit unsure. Any comments would be much appreciated.

>

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My advice is to tear the checks up with no explanation. If you accept the money

by cashing the check, even if you give it to charity, you have " taken " their

money and they'll still be able to label you as " helpless mooches " (even if its

not true; all they'll base it on is that you cashed their check.)

All gifts from my nada had always come with strings attached, and I stopped

accepting gifts of any kind from her several years back because of that. Then,

the final straw was learning that my nada stated that I and my Sister only ever

came to see her because " we wanted something from her (meaning, money) " . For

me, that was " all she wrote " and I went No Contact.

You'll have to figure out what will work for you, but that's what I'd do. Your

parents will neither understand nor accept any explanation you give them, so

just pretend the checks don't exist. Destroy them.

-Annie

>

> Hi Everyone,

>

> I've been off the grid for a while. The quick history:

> •nada (typical BPD-witch/waif); fada (nada's always right)

> •2 siblings (I was split all good—became all bad)

> •'06 family meltdown about aging parents/elder care

> •'06-'08 discover BPD; join this group; therapy; recovery; NC

> •'09 family health crisis— break NC; crisis passes (false alarm); LC

> •'10 maintain LC (new boundaries... never drive with nada/fada; never allow

them to pay for meals,etc.

>

> That's the short & simple in code form. My nada is starting to send me & my

husband $$$ for our birthdays. It doesn't feel good. We don't want their

strings-attached; you owe us; guilt-laced dollars. Especially because we were

painted as the helpless mooches— the ones who couldn't make it on our own

without their help... which is BS. My idea is to cash the checks, give the $$$

to charity, and send them a note saying that we gave the money in their name to

charity. It seems that refusing the $$$ would cause a ruckus, trying to talk

about our feelings for not wanting it...pointless. This would keep the equation

neutral. I don't think they'd be able to say much. What do you think? Good/ Bad

decision. I feel a bit unsure. Any comments would be much appreciated.

>

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There is another part to this story that I left out—

While I was NC '06-'09, my nada/fada gave HUGE checks to my sibling. (My sibling

was very open about telling me this.) My parents did this, hoping to create

drama/rivalry, but I didn't take the bait. During my NC years, they also

" adopted " a son (my replacement)— he also got plenty of their $$$. Again I did

not react. It's better to be FREE. Generally I'm so much happier now, but I

sometimes DO feel angry about all this.

My sibling never says " no " to their money. She feels that they owe her for all

the pain they've inflicted in the past.

Anyway, ripping up checks is a clear boundary...I get that— but my parents have

been acting more or less " normal " for a year & a half. It makes it difficult for

me to be crazily vindictive. A charitable donation may beat them at their own

game. They're extremely clannish but want to be seen as open & generous. They'll

be really annoyed, but won't be able to express it. And I like giving to

charity when I can. Still they ARE eroding my boundaries & that sucks.

I hate this endless wrangling.

Thanks for the comments so far!!

>

> Hi Everyone,

>

> I've been off the grid for a while. The quick history:

> •nada (typical BPD-witch/waif); fada (nada's always right)

> •2 siblings (I was split all good—became all bad)

> •'06 family meltdown about aging parents/elder care

> •'06-'08 discover BPD; join this group; therapy; recovery; NC

> •'09 family health crisis— break NC; crisis passes (false alarm); LC

> •'10 maintain LC (new boundaries... never drive with nada/fada; never allow

them to pay for meals,etc.

>

> That's the short & simple in code form. My nada is starting to send me & my

husband $$$ for our birthdays. It doesn't feel good. We don't want their

strings-attached; you owe us; guilt-laced dollars. Especially because we were

painted as the helpless mooches— the ones who couldn't make it on our own

without their help... which is BS. My idea is to cash the checks, give the $$$

to charity, and send them a note saying that we gave the money in their name to

charity. It seems that refusing the $$$ would cause a ruckus, trying to talk

about our feelings for not wanting it...pointless. This would keep the equation

neutral. I don't think they'd be able to say much. What do you think? Good/ Bad

decision. I feel a bit unsure. Any comments would be much appreciated.

>

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There is another part to this story that I left out—

While I was NC '06-'09, my nada/fada gave HUGE checks to my sibling. (My sibling

was very open about telling me this.) My parents did this, hoping to create

drama/rivalry, but I didn't take the bait. During my NC years, they also

" adopted " a son (my replacement)— he also got plenty of their $$$. Again I did

not react. It's better to be FREE. Generally I'm so much happier now, but I

sometimes DO feel angry about all this.

My sibling never says " no " to their money. She feels that they owe her for all

the pain they've inflicted in the past.

Anyway, ripping up checks is a clear boundary...I get that— but my parents have

been acting more or less " normal " for a year & a half. It makes it difficult for

me to be crazily vindictive. A charitable donation may beat them at their own

game. They're extremely clannish but want to be seen as open & generous. They'll

be really annoyed, but won't be able to express it. And I like giving to

charity when I can. Still they ARE eroding my boundaries & that sucks.

I hate this endless wrangling.

Thanks for the comments so far!!

>

> Hi Everyone,

>

> I've been off the grid for a while. The quick history:

> •nada (typical BPD-witch/waif); fada (nada's always right)

> •2 siblings (I was split all good—became all bad)

> •'06 family meltdown about aging parents/elder care

> •'06-'08 discover BPD; join this group; therapy; recovery; NC

> •'09 family health crisis— break NC; crisis passes (false alarm); LC

> •'10 maintain LC (new boundaries... never drive with nada/fada; never allow

them to pay for meals,etc.

>

> That's the short & simple in code form. My nada is starting to send me & my

husband $$$ for our birthdays. It doesn't feel good. We don't want their

strings-attached; you owe us; guilt-laced dollars. Especially because we were

painted as the helpless mooches— the ones who couldn't make it on our own

without their help... which is BS. My idea is to cash the checks, give the $$$

to charity, and send them a note saying that we gave the money in their name to

charity. It seems that refusing the $$$ would cause a ruckus, trying to talk

about our feelings for not wanting it...pointless. This would keep the equation

neutral. I don't think they'd be able to say much. What do you think? Good/ Bad

decision. I feel a bit unsure. Any comments would be much appreciated.

>

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There is another part to this story that I left out—

While I was NC '06-'09, my nada/fada gave HUGE checks to my sibling. (My sibling

was very open about telling me this.) My parents did this, hoping to create

drama/rivalry, but I didn't take the bait. During my NC years, they also

" adopted " a son (my replacement)— he also got plenty of their $$$. Again I did

not react. It's better to be FREE. Generally I'm so much happier now, but I

sometimes DO feel angry about all this.

My sibling never says " no " to their money. She feels that they owe her for all

the pain they've inflicted in the past.

Anyway, ripping up checks is a clear boundary...I get that— but my parents have

been acting more or less " normal " for a year & a half. It makes it difficult for

me to be crazily vindictive. A charitable donation may beat them at their own

game. They're extremely clannish but want to be seen as open & generous. They'll

be really annoyed, but won't be able to express it. And I like giving to

charity when I can. Still they ARE eroding my boundaries & that sucks.

I hate this endless wrangling.

Thanks for the comments so far!!

>

> Hi Everyone,

>

> I've been off the grid for a while. The quick history:

> •nada (typical BPD-witch/waif); fada (nada's always right)

> •2 siblings (I was split all good—became all bad)

> •'06 family meltdown about aging parents/elder care

> •'06-'08 discover BPD; join this group; therapy; recovery; NC

> •'09 family health crisis— break NC; crisis passes (false alarm); LC

> •'10 maintain LC (new boundaries... never drive with nada/fada; never allow

them to pay for meals,etc.

>

> That's the short & simple in code form. My nada is starting to send me & my

husband $$$ for our birthdays. It doesn't feel good. We don't want their

strings-attached; you owe us; guilt-laced dollars. Especially because we were

painted as the helpless mooches— the ones who couldn't make it on our own

without their help... which is BS. My idea is to cash the checks, give the $$$

to charity, and send them a note saying that we gave the money in their name to

charity. It seems that refusing the $$$ would cause a ruckus, trying to talk

about our feelings for not wanting it...pointless. This would keep the equation

neutral. I don't think they'd be able to say much. What do you think? Good/ Bad

decision. I feel a bit unsure. Any comments would be much appreciated.

>

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my two cents - I agree that this could twist into " look what a jerk [you] are

because you wouldn't accept the money, can't you let things go... "

if you do give it to charity I would suggest that you make the donations in

their names specifically, that might help...then have the charity send them a

letter (most will do this naturally) informing them of the donation. That way

you don't necessarily have to address them about the money, or you can follow up

saying that while you appreciate their generosity there are many people/causes

out their who aren't able to care for themselves the way that you are and they

would be helped grately by their (your parents') generosity. If this turns into

a fight you can always state how you are independent and not a " charity project "

so you gave the money to real charities...

Just my thoughts,

> >

> > Hi Everyone,

> >

> > I've been off the grid for a while. The quick history:

> > •nada (typical BPD-witch/waif); fada (nada's always right)

> > •2 siblings (I was split all good—became all bad)

> > •'06 family meltdown about aging parents/elder care

> > •'06-'08 discover BPD; join this group; therapy; recovery; NC

> > •'09 family health crisis— break NC; crisis passes (false alarm); LC

> > •'10 maintain LC (new boundaries... never drive with nada/fada; never allow

them to pay for meals,etc.

> >

> > That's the short & simple in code form. My nada is starting to send me & my

husband $$$ for our birthdays. It doesn't feel good. We don't want their

strings-attached; you owe us; guilt-laced dollars. Especially because we were

painted as the helpless mooches— the ones who couldn't make it on our own

without their help... which is BS. My idea is to cash the checks, give the $$$

to charity, and send them a note saying that we gave the money in their name to

charity. It seems that refusing the $$$ would cause a ruckus, trying to talk

about our feelings for not wanting it...pointless. This would keep the equation

neutral. I don't think they'd be able to say much. What do you think? Good/ Bad

decision. I feel a bit unsure. Any comments would be much appreciated.

> >

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I might donate the money to a specific person who was badly injured & needs to

pay off astronomical medical bills. Then the money can't be officially

designated in my parent's name, but there's also no junk mail to consider.

(Isn't crazy how much work these people are??? It's exhausting. NC was so much

easier.)

>

> One other thing to consider with charities...

>

> Sometimes they sell the names & contact information of people who have

> donated.... so your parents could end up getting a lot of requests to donate

> to charity.

>

> This could cause problems too. For you, I mean... if they start blaming you

> for getting 'junk mail' from other charities. I don't know.

>

> my ex MIL used to donate to a few charities regularly, and they did end up

> selling her info and she would get phone calls & things in mail from other

> charities asking for money.

>

> Just a little something I thought of while reading this today that I thought

> I should mention. I am not trying to dissuade you from doing it, but you

> might want to check with them to find out if they sell their information or

> not. Or, you might not care LOL... I can kind of get a sense of KO

> vindication on that issue too, but I also get a sense of mild fear thinking

> it could bring about more issues with " the 'rents " (as Annie says).

>

> Mia

>

> >

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