Re: Not Sleeping! What to give?

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I'm not sure I understand what you are asking! On TLO, we have people with

autism but also a lot of other conditions now, like interstitial cystitis,

fibromyalgia, chronic fatigue, etc., and it doesn't seem to matter which

condition is the " presenting " symptom, when people get too much oxalate or are

dumping, they often see this particular upset to sleep.

It is not that they have trouble getting to sleep. What they tell me is that

they wake up fully awake about 3 in the morning and cannot go back to sleep

because they are so awake. It doesn't seem to matter that much whether they

took melatonin to get to sleep.

This association to sleep is not THAT surprising since everybody knows how

coffee can keep you up, and it is a modulator of calcium intracellularly.

That's what oxalate tangles with, too, the intracellular regulation of calcium.

Also, oxalate ties up magnesium, too, which is a big regulator of circadian

rhythm.

What has been so comforting and exciting as the oxalate listserve has grown

because of people who have gotten better recruiting others with their same

conditions (started with parents of children with autism sharing the diet with

their kids) is that we see so much overlap with such different diagnoses. It

has helped confirm that what we saw originally with autism was spot-on!

Our autism kids are still making phenomenal progress they did not make on

previous diets, but these other listmates are so good at explaining to us things

these kids might feel but not be able to describe well to us.

Is that helpful?

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> > My son is not sleeping we have given melatonin it puts him to sleep quickly,

however he wakes a few hours later, hyper & ready to go. Any ideas, we are doing

Respen A

> > & I think I remember no GABA. Please help us, as he is either very fussy or

falls asleep in school.

> > Thank you

> > Nina

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