Guest guest Posted March 18, 2011 Report Share Posted March 18, 2011 Hi , We use a dentist that uses the new sand blasting techniques to fill a cavity, so there is no drilling. I have never had my ASD son there, he's a wild man, but my husband takes my super sensory older son and he does great. I don't even think they numb anything, so if he can sit thru the cleaning and flossing, he should be able to sit thru the sand blasting and the filling. We see Dr Crowl in Illinois. If you can't find one in your area, you might want to call this guys office and see if they know someone in your area who uses this technique!! Requires new equipment, so there's probably only a few. Jackie > > My 6 year old ASD has a cavity (insert obscenity here) and needs a filling. We have to go see a pediatric specialist who will probably recommend sedating him in a hospital for the procedure, plus xrays, a good cleaning, and they will want to treat him with flouride. Stop the press!! I keep reading how toxic flouride is. We even stopped using a flouride toothpaste, and 6 months later he gets his first cavity. (insert another obscenity here). > > My guy also has a heterozygous MTHFR mutation, I think it's the C677. So even though the risk is low, nitrous is just out of the question. I'm terrified of the general anesthesia for him, but what other option would we have? And FYI, he allows great brushing, he allowed them to clean AND floss him in the office, and allowed a descent exam. I do not think he would be able to cooperate with a drill and filling unless sedated. > > Then there's the flouride issue...my dentist is respectful of my wishes not to do the flouride varnish, but I'm not sure I'll be able to convince the specialist. I'm sure I'm not the first one here dealing with cavities. I'd appreciate any advice!! Thanks! R > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 18, 2011 Report Share Posted March 18, 2011 Can you search for a Huggins trained dentist in your area? You can use biocomp labs to run bloodwork to determine a compatible filling. So far as the procedure itself, do you think you can do enough social stories and bring him to a dentist appt for yourself to show him what a visit entails, sounds, sights, smells? Have him practice holding his mouth open for a few mins at a time?? My 3 yr old Aspie (dx'd at age 5) at the time was fine for a cleaning and xray, and even fine to hold still for the dentist... but the dentist was antsy about working on her and she would not hold still perfectly for the filling... (and he was not used to working on kids, he is a family practice dentist, not pediatric) Now, when we went to the ped dentist, they were pressing for sedation (they call it the Kiddie Cocktail, usually not covered by insurance) and I said no... so they tried to do fast and furious fillings, rather than taking their time and explaining it (my girl would have completely been fine if they had not been so rushed and obnoxious) so it was traumatic and then the dentist decided without my consent that since she was too wiggly, she was getting amalgam (the amalgam was on the tool, IN her mouth, he was placing it ON her tooth and saying to me " oh she's wiggling too much we are doing silver. " We are getting her fillings replaced in the next couple weeks; need to get the bloodwork done. The one is falling out. I feel like billing that ped dentist my fees for all the extras he is causing here.Grrr. b/w is gonna be about 300, and each filling about 250. Also see if you can bring a video for your child to watch while being worked on. My 6 year old ASD has a cavity (insert obscenity here) and needs a filling. We have to go see a pediatric specialist who will probably recommend sedating him in a hospital for the procedure, plus xrays, a good cleaning, and they will want to treat him with flouride. Stop the press!! I keep reading how toxic flouride is. We even stopped using a flouride toothpaste, and 6 months later he gets his first cavity. (insert another obscenity here). My guy also has a heterozygous MTHFR mutation, I think it's the C677. So even though the risk is low, nitrous is just out of the question. I'm terrified of the general anesthesia for him, but what other option would we have? And FYI, he allows great brushing, he allowed them to clean AND floss him in the office, and allowed a descent exam. I do not think he would be able to cooperate with a drill and filling unless sedated. Then there's the flouride issue...my dentist is respectful of my wishes not to do the flouride varnish, but I'm not sure I'll be able to convince the specialist. I'm sure I'm not the first one here dealing with cavities. I'd appreciate any advice!! Thanks! R -- Toni------Mind like a steel trap...Rusty and illegal in 37 states. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 18, 2011 Report Share Posted March 18, 2011 Can you search for a Huggins trained dentist in your area? You can use biocomp labs to run bloodwork to determine a compatible filling. So far as the procedure itself, do you think you can do enough social stories and bring him to a dentist appt for yourself to show him what a visit entails, sounds, sights, smells? Have him practice holding his mouth open for a few mins at a time?? My 3 yr old Aspie (dx'd at age 5) at the time was fine for a cleaning and xray, and even fine to hold still for the dentist... but the dentist was antsy about working on her and she would not hold still perfectly for the filling... (and he was not used to working on kids, he is a family practice dentist, not pediatric) Now, when we went to the ped dentist, they were pressing for sedation (they call it the Kiddie Cocktail, usually not covered by insurance) and I said no... so they tried to do fast and furious fillings, rather than taking their time and explaining it (my girl would have completely been fine if they had not been so rushed and obnoxious) so it was traumatic and then the dentist decided without my consent that since she was too wiggly, she was getting amalgam (the amalgam was on the tool, IN her mouth, he was placing it ON her tooth and saying to me " oh she's wiggling too much we are doing silver. " We are getting her fillings replaced in the next couple weeks; need to get the bloodwork done. The one is falling out. I feel like billing that ped dentist my fees for all the extras he is causing here.Grrr. b/w is gonna be about 300, and each filling about 250. Also see if you can bring a video for your child to watch while being worked on. My 6 year old ASD has a cavity (insert obscenity here) and needs a filling. We have to go see a pediatric specialist who will probably recommend sedating him in a hospital for the procedure, plus xrays, a good cleaning, and they will want to treat him with flouride. Stop the press!! I keep reading how toxic flouride is. We even stopped using a flouride toothpaste, and 6 months later he gets his first cavity. (insert another obscenity here). My guy also has a heterozygous MTHFR mutation, I think it's the C677. So even though the risk is low, nitrous is just out of the question. I'm terrified of the general anesthesia for him, but what other option would we have? And FYI, he allows great brushing, he allowed them to clean AND floss him in the office, and allowed a descent exam. I do not think he would be able to cooperate with a drill and filling unless sedated. Then there's the flouride issue...my dentist is respectful of my wishes not to do the flouride varnish, but I'm not sure I'll be able to convince the specialist. I'm sure I'm not the first one here dealing with cavities. I'd appreciate any advice!! Thanks! R -- Toni------Mind like a steel trap...Rusty and illegal in 37 states. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 18, 2011 Report Share Posted March 18, 2011 Can you search for a Huggins trained dentist in your area? You can use biocomp labs to run bloodwork to determine a compatible filling. So far as the procedure itself, do you think you can do enough social stories and bring him to a dentist appt for yourself to show him what a visit entails, sounds, sights, smells? Have him practice holding his mouth open for a few mins at a time?? My 3 yr old Aspie (dx'd at age 5) at the time was fine for a cleaning and xray, and even fine to hold still for the dentist... but the dentist was antsy about working on her and she would not hold still perfectly for the filling... (and he was not used to working on kids, he is a family practice dentist, not pediatric) Now, when we went to the ped dentist, they were pressing for sedation (they call it the Kiddie Cocktail, usually not covered by insurance) and I said no... so they tried to do fast and furious fillings, rather than taking their time and explaining it (my girl would have completely been fine if they had not been so rushed and obnoxious) so it was traumatic and then the dentist decided without my consent that since she was too wiggly, she was getting amalgam (the amalgam was on the tool, IN her mouth, he was placing it ON her tooth and saying to me " oh she's wiggling too much we are doing silver. " We are getting her fillings replaced in the next couple weeks; need to get the bloodwork done. The one is falling out. I feel like billing that ped dentist my fees for all the extras he is causing here.Grrr. b/w is gonna be about 300, and each filling about 250. Also see if you can bring a video for your child to watch while being worked on. My 6 year old ASD has a cavity (insert obscenity here) and needs a filling. We have to go see a pediatric specialist who will probably recommend sedating him in a hospital for the procedure, plus xrays, a good cleaning, and they will want to treat him with flouride. Stop the press!! I keep reading how toxic flouride is. We even stopped using a flouride toothpaste, and 6 months later he gets his first cavity. (insert another obscenity here). My guy also has a heterozygous MTHFR mutation, I think it's the C677. So even though the risk is low, nitrous is just out of the question. I'm terrified of the general anesthesia for him, but what other option would we have? And FYI, he allows great brushing, he allowed them to clean AND floss him in the office, and allowed a descent exam. I do not think he would be able to cooperate with a drill and filling unless sedated. Then there's the flouride issue...my dentist is respectful of my wishes not to do the flouride varnish, but I'm not sure I'll be able to convince the specialist. I'm sure I'm not the first one here dealing with cavities. I'd appreciate any advice!! Thanks! R -- Toni------Mind like a steel trap...Rusty and illegal in 37 states. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 18, 2011 Report Share Posted March 18, 2011 We had similar experience to Toni's that they went waaaaay too fast and it was traumatic for all parties involved. I have found a new dentist, but we haven't been yet. I interviewed them regarding filling cavities. They don't use nitrous or put them under, but they do offer a sedative (can't remember the name, but something like valium). It seems like a better option, but I really don't know. Thoughts? Janet > > > > > > > My 6 year old ASD has a cavity (insert obscenity here) and needs a filling. > > We have to go see a pediatric specialist who will probably recommend > > sedating him in a hospital for the procedure, plus xrays, a good cleaning, > > and they will want to treat him with flouride. Stop the press!! I keep > > reading how toxic flouride is. We even stopped using a flouride toothpaste, > > and 6 months later he gets his first cavity. (insert another obscenity > > here). > > > > My guy also has a heterozygous MTHFR mutation, I think it's the C677. So > > even though the risk is low, nitrous is just out of the question. I'm > > terrified of the general anesthesia for him, but what other option would we > > have? And FYI, he allows great brushing, he allowed them to clean AND floss > > him in the office, and allowed a descent exam. I do not think he would be > > able to cooperate with a drill and filling unless sedated. > > > > Then there's the flouride issue...my dentist is respectful of my wishes not > > to do the flouride varnish, but I'm not sure I'll be able to convince the > > specialist. I'm sure I'm not the first one here dealing with cavities. I'd > > appreciate any advice!! Thanks! R > > > > > > > > > > -- > Toni > > ------ > Mind like a steel trap... > Rusty and illegal in 37 states. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 18, 2011 Report Share Posted March 18, 2011 We had similar experience to Toni's that they went waaaaay too fast and it was traumatic for all parties involved. I have found a new dentist, but we haven't been yet. I interviewed them regarding filling cavities. They don't use nitrous or put them under, but they do offer a sedative (can't remember the name, but something like valium). It seems like a better option, but I really don't know. Thoughts? Janet > > > > > > > My 6 year old ASD has a cavity (insert obscenity here) and needs a filling. > > We have to go see a pediatric specialist who will probably recommend > > sedating him in a hospital for the procedure, plus xrays, a good cleaning, > > and they will want to treat him with flouride. Stop the press!! I keep > > reading how toxic flouride is. We even stopped using a flouride toothpaste, > > and 6 months later he gets his first cavity. (insert another obscenity > > here). > > > > My guy also has a heterozygous MTHFR mutation, I think it's the C677. So > > even though the risk is low, nitrous is just out of the question. I'm > > terrified of the general anesthesia for him, but what other option would we > > have? And FYI, he allows great brushing, he allowed them to clean AND floss > > him in the office, and allowed a descent exam. I do not think he would be > > able to cooperate with a drill and filling unless sedated. > > > > Then there's the flouride issue...my dentist is respectful of my wishes not > > to do the flouride varnish, but I'm not sure I'll be able to convince the > > specialist. I'm sure I'm not the first one here dealing with cavities. I'd > > appreciate any advice!! Thanks! R > > > > > > > > > > -- > Toni > > ------ > Mind like a steel trap... > Rusty and illegal in 37 states. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 19, 2011 Report Share Posted March 19, 2011 OK! I'll look into that too. Not sure what to ask for but I have some time to research. Bought a spin brush today for better brushing....though that was not our problem, he lets me brush really well. this stinks. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My 6 year old ASD has a cavity (insert obscenity here) and needs a > > filling. > > > > We have to go see a pediatric specialist who will probably recommend > > > > sedating him in a hospital for the procedure, plus xrays, a good > > cleaning, > > > > and they will want to treat him with flouride. Stop the press!! I keep > > > > reading how toxic flouride is. We even stopped using a flouride > > toothpaste, > > > > and 6 months later he gets his first cavity. (insert another obscenity > > > > here). > > > > > > > > My guy also has a heterozygous MTHFR mutation, I think it's the C677. > > So > > > > even though the risk is low, nitrous is just out of the question. I'm > > > > terrified of the general anesthesia for him, but what other option > > would we > > > > have? And FYI, he allows great brushing, he allowed them to clean AND > > floss > > > > him in the office, and allowed a descent exam. I do not think he would > > be > > > > able to cooperate with a drill and filling unless sedated. > > > > > > > > Then there's the flouride issue...my dentist is respectful of my wishes > > not > > > > to do the flouride varnish, but I'm not sure I'll be able to convince > > the > > > > specialist. I'm sure I'm not the first one here dealing with cavities. > > I'd > > > > appreciate any advice!! Thanks! R > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Toni > > > > > > ------ > > > Mind like a steel trap... > > > Rusty and illegal in 37 states. > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > Toni > > ------ > Mind like a steel trap... > Rusty and illegal in 37 states. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 19, 2011 Report Share Posted March 19, 2011 Has anyone else heard of this sandblasting technique? My son just goes to our regular dentist, and there's nothing invasive to getting his cavity filled. I just asked him, and he said it didn't hurt in any way shape or form, and as far as he could remember there isn't even a loud noise. No shot(numbing) and no drilling. He's one of those " Tele monster " (Sesame Street) kind of kids who worries about everything and NEVER forgets anything that hurt or " was mean " to him. I know he would never go to the dentist again if there was any pain or he was afraid. It requires new equipment so I don't know how many dentists do it, but for kids- it's well worth trying to find one. Jackie > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My 6 year old ASD has a cavity (insert obscenity here) and needs a > > > filling. > > > > > We have to go see a pediatric specialist who will probably recommend > > > > > sedating him in a hospital for the procedure, plus xrays, a good > > > cleaning, > > > > > and they will want to treat him with flouride. Stop the press!! I keep > > > > > reading how toxic flouride is. We even stopped using a flouride > > > toothpaste, > > > > > and 6 months later he gets his first cavity. (insert another obscenity > > > > > here). > > > > > > > > > > My guy also has a heterozygous MTHFR mutation, I think it's the C677. > > > So > > > > > even though the risk is low, nitrous is just out of the question. I'm > > > > > terrified of the general anesthesia for him, but what other option > > > would we > > > > > have? And FYI, he allows great brushing, he allowed them to clean AND > > > floss > > > > > him in the office, and allowed a descent exam. I do not think he would > > > be > > > > > able to cooperate with a drill and filling unless sedated. > > > > > > > > > > Then there's the flouride issue...my dentist is respectful of my wishes > > > not > > > > > to do the flouride varnish, but I'm not sure I'll be able to convince > > > the > > > > > specialist. I'm sure I'm not the first one here dealing with cavities. > > > I'd > > > > > appreciate any advice!! Thanks! R > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Toni > > > > > > > > ------ > > > > Mind like a steel trap... > > > > Rusty and illegal in 37 states. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Toni > > > > ------ > > Mind like a steel trap... > > Rusty and illegal in 37 states. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 19, 2011 Report Share Posted March 19, 2011 Has anyone else heard of this sandblasting technique? My son just goes to our regular dentist, and there's nothing invasive to getting his cavity filled. I just asked him, and he said it didn't hurt in any way shape or form, and as far as he could remember there isn't even a loud noise. No shot(numbing) and no drilling. He's one of those " Tele monster " (Sesame Street) kind of kids who worries about everything and NEVER forgets anything that hurt or " was mean " to him. I know he would never go to the dentist again if there was any pain or he was afraid. It requires new equipment so I don't know how many dentists do it, but for kids- it's well worth trying to find one. Jackie > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My 6 year old ASD has a cavity (insert obscenity here) and needs a > > > filling. > > > > > We have to go see a pediatric specialist who will probably recommend > > > > > sedating him in a hospital for the procedure, plus xrays, a good > > > cleaning, > > > > > and they will want to treat him with flouride. Stop the press!! I keep > > > > > reading how toxic flouride is. We even stopped using a flouride > > > toothpaste, > > > > > and 6 months later he gets his first cavity. (insert another obscenity > > > > > here). > > > > > > > > > > My guy also has a heterozygous MTHFR mutation, I think it's the C677. > > > So > > > > > even though the risk is low, nitrous is just out of the question. I'm > > > > > terrified of the general anesthesia for him, but what other option > > > would we > > > > > have? And FYI, he allows great brushing, he allowed them to clean AND > > > floss > > > > > him in the office, and allowed a descent exam. I do not think he would > > > be > > > > > able to cooperate with a drill and filling unless sedated. > > > > > > > > > > Then there's the flouride issue...my dentist is respectful of my wishes > > > not > > > > > to do the flouride varnish, but I'm not sure I'll be able to convince > > > the > > > > > specialist. I'm sure I'm not the first one here dealing with cavities. > > > I'd > > > > > appreciate any advice!! Thanks! R > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Toni > > > > > > > > ------ > > > > Mind like a steel trap... > > > > Rusty and illegal in 37 states. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Toni > > > > ------ > > Mind like a steel trap... > > Rusty and illegal in 37 states. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 19, 2011 Report Share Posted March 19, 2011 Has anyone else heard of this sandblasting technique? My son just goes to our regular dentist, and there's nothing invasive to getting his cavity filled. I just asked him, and he said it didn't hurt in any way shape or form, and as far as he could remember there isn't even a loud noise. No shot(numbing) and no drilling. He's one of those " Tele monster " (Sesame Street) kind of kids who worries about everything and NEVER forgets anything that hurt or " was mean " to him. I know he would never go to the dentist again if there was any pain or he was afraid. It requires new equipment so I don't know how many dentists do it, but for kids- it's well worth trying to find one. Jackie > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My 6 year old ASD has a cavity (insert obscenity here) and needs a > > > filling. > > > > > We have to go see a pediatric specialist who will probably recommend > > > > > sedating him in a hospital for the procedure, plus xrays, a good > > > cleaning, > > > > > and they will want to treat him with flouride. Stop the press!! I keep > > > > > reading how toxic flouride is. We even stopped using a flouride > > > toothpaste, > > > > > and 6 months later he gets his first cavity. (insert another obscenity > > > > > here). > > > > > > > > > > My guy also has a heterozygous MTHFR mutation, I think it's the C677. > > > So > > > > > even though the risk is low, nitrous is just out of the question. I'm > > > > > terrified of the general anesthesia for him, but what other option > > > would we > > > > > have? And FYI, he allows great brushing, he allowed them to clean AND > > > floss > > > > > him in the office, and allowed a descent exam. I do not think he would > > > be > > > > > able to cooperate with a drill and filling unless sedated. > > > > > > > > > > Then there's the flouride issue...my dentist is respectful of my wishes > > > not > > > > > to do the flouride varnish, but I'm not sure I'll be able to convince > > > the > > > > > specialist. I'm sure I'm not the first one here dealing with cavities. > > > I'd > > > > > appreciate any advice!! Thanks! R > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Toni > > > > > > > > ------ > > > > Mind like a steel trap... > > > > Rusty and illegal in 37 states. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Toni > > > > ------ > > Mind like a steel trap... > > Rusty and illegal in 37 states. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 22, 2011 Report Share Posted March 22, 2011 i actually stopped my son's tooth decay using this book. I highly recommend it. Your teeth can heal. I never knew this. My son had 5 cavities and pain. I was FREAKED out. We had no sugar at the time so I didn't understand what I know now about digestive dysbiosis. Cure Tooth Decay http://www.curetoothdecay.com/ kathleen > > My 6 year old ASD has a cavity (insert obscenity here) and needs a filling. We have to go see a pediatric specialist who will probably recommend sedating him in a hospital for the procedure, plus xrays, a good cleaning, and they will want to treat him with flouride. Stop the press!! I keep reading how toxic flouride is. We even stopped using a flouride toothpaste, and 6 months later he gets his first cavity. (insert another obscenity here). > > My guy also has a heterozygous MTHFR mutation, I think it's the C677. So even though the risk is low, nitrous is just out of the question. I'm terrified of the general anesthesia for him, but what other option would we have? And FYI, he allows great brushing, he allowed them to clean AND floss him in the office, and allowed a descent exam. I do not think he would be able to cooperate with a drill and filling unless sedated. > > Then there's the flouride issue...my dentist is respectful of my wishes not to do the flouride varnish, but I'm not sure I'll be able to convince the specialist. I'm sure I'm not the first one here dealing with cavities. I'd appreciate any advice!! Thanks! R > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 22, 2011 Report Share Posted March 22, 2011 i actually stopped my son's tooth decay using this book. I highly recommend it. Your teeth can heal. I never knew this. My son had 5 cavities and pain. I was FREAKED out. We had no sugar at the time so I didn't understand what I know now about digestive dysbiosis. Cure Tooth Decay http://www.curetoothdecay.com/ kathleen > > My 6 year old ASD has a cavity (insert obscenity here) and needs a filling. We have to go see a pediatric specialist who will probably recommend sedating him in a hospital for the procedure, plus xrays, a good cleaning, and they will want to treat him with flouride. Stop the press!! I keep reading how toxic flouride is. We even stopped using a flouride toothpaste, and 6 months later he gets his first cavity. (insert another obscenity here). > > My guy also has a heterozygous MTHFR mutation, I think it's the C677. So even though the risk is low, nitrous is just out of the question. I'm terrified of the general anesthesia for him, but what other option would we have? And FYI, he allows great brushing, he allowed them to clean AND floss him in the office, and allowed a descent exam. I do not think he would be able to cooperate with a drill and filling unless sedated. > > Then there's the flouride issue...my dentist is respectful of my wishes not to do the flouride varnish, but I'm not sure I'll be able to convince the specialist. I'm sure I'm not the first one here dealing with cavities. I'd appreciate any advice!! Thanks! R > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 22, 2011 Report Share Posted March 22, 2011 i actually stopped my son's tooth decay using this book. I highly recommend it. Your teeth can heal. I never knew this. My son had 5 cavities and pain. I was FREAKED out. We had no sugar at the time so I didn't understand what I know now about digestive dysbiosis. Cure Tooth Decay http://www.curetoothdecay.com/ kathleen > > My 6 year old ASD has a cavity (insert obscenity here) and needs a filling. We have to go see a pediatric specialist who will probably recommend sedating him in a hospital for the procedure, plus xrays, a good cleaning, and they will want to treat him with flouride. Stop the press!! I keep reading how toxic flouride is. We even stopped using a flouride toothpaste, and 6 months later he gets his first cavity. (insert another obscenity here). > > My guy also has a heterozygous MTHFR mutation, I think it's the C677. So even though the risk is low, nitrous is just out of the question. I'm terrified of the general anesthesia for him, but what other option would we have? And FYI, he allows great brushing, he allowed them to clean AND floss him in the office, and allowed a descent exam. I do not think he would be able to cooperate with a drill and filling unless sedated. > > Then there's the flouride issue...my dentist is respectful of my wishes not to do the flouride varnish, but I'm not sure I'll be able to convince the specialist. I'm sure I'm not the first one here dealing with cavities. I'd appreciate any advice!! Thanks! R > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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