Guest guest Posted January 17, 2001 Report Share Posted January 17, 2001 In a message dated 1/16/01 9:15:46 PM Pacific Standard Time, egroups@... writes: << Sincerely, Hunter http://www.localgroup.net >> only $5.95?????? Wow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2001 Report Share Posted January 17, 2001 Wednesday, January 17, 2001, 4:28:07 AM, you wrote: > Lessons From Beethoven Here's one; Listen today for tomorrow you may be er, deaf or something Joe B. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2001 Report Share Posted January 17, 2001 its like the episode of simpsons, " send $1 to happy guy " . > In a message dated 1/16/01 9:15:46 PM Pacific Standard Time, > egroups@l... writes: > > << Sincerely, > Hunter > http://www.localgroup.net > >> > only $5.95?????? Wow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2001 Report Share Posted January 17, 2001 At 04:28 AM 1/17/01 -0000, Hunter wrote: > A Foreword To Lessons From Beethoven You sent this to the wrong address. Please resend it to: 12-step-free-unsubscribeegroups ----- http://listen.to/benbradley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2001 Report Share Posted January 17, 2001 LOL!! Dry wit and subtlety pack the best punch! > > A Foreword To Lessons From Beethoven > > You sent this to the wrong address. Please resend it to: > > 12-step-free-unsubscribeegroups > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2001 Report Share Posted January 17, 2001 LOL!! Dry wit and subtlety pack the best punch! > > A Foreword To Lessons From Beethoven > > You sent this to the wrong address. Please resend it to: > > 12-step-free-unsubscribeegroups > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2001 Report Share Posted January 19, 2001 Hi Railroad, I think I saw you years ago on a newsgroup. Did you used to hang out at the alt.society.generation-x newsgroup or the alt.support.depression one? Just curious. Hunter > > > A Foreword To Lessons From Beethoven > > > > You sent this to the wrong address. Please resend it to: > > > > 12-step-free-unsubscribeegroups > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 20, 2001 Report Share Posted January 20, 2001 In a message dated 1/20/01 2:52:21 PM Pacific Standard Time, watts_pete@... writes: << Megabarf! Ayn Rand and Heinlein???????????????????????? >> OMG!!!!!!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 20, 2001 Report Share Posted January 20, 2001 In a message dated 1/20/01 2:52:21 PM Pacific Standard Time, watts_pete@... writes: << Megabarf! Ayn Rand and Heinlein???????????????????????? >> OMG!!!!!!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 23, 2001 Report Share Posted January 23, 2001 Hi All, So what's wrong with Ayn Rand? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 23, 2001 Report Share Posted January 23, 2001 Hi All, So what's wrong with Ayn Rand? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 23, 2001 Report Share Posted January 23, 2001 Hi All, and Pete, All I can say is that you have been extremely thorough and exceptionally articulate in expressing your profoundly divergent beliefs in the context of Rand's Objectivism and I must applaud you in your very convincing and thought provoking point of view. Although you have not caused me to question my own beliefs, I certainly appreciate your candor and enthusiasm. Any thoughts on DeSade? Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 23, 2001 Report Share Posted January 23, 2001 Hi All, and Pete, All I can say is that you have been extremely thorough and exceptionally articulate in expressing your profoundly divergent beliefs in the context of Rand's Objectivism and I must applaud you in your very convincing and thought provoking point of view. Although you have not caused me to question my own beliefs, I certainly appreciate your candor and enthusiasm. Any thoughts on DeSade? Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2001 Report Share Posted January 24, 2001 Steve, A short question gets a short answer, and those with extreme views, such as Rand, merit an extreme evaluation. I have actually discussed Rand at length previously, partly on this list and partly in private correspondence with an other lister. I'm not particularly inclined to do so again. P. > Hi All, and Pete, > > All I can say is that you have been extremely thorough and exceptionally > articulate in expressing your profoundly divergent beliefs in the context of > Rand's Objectivism and I must applaud you in your very convincing and thought > provoking point of view. Although you have not caused me to question my own > beliefs, I certainly appreciate your candor and enthusiasm. Any thoughts on > DeSade? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2001 Report Share Posted January 24, 2001 Steve, A short question gets a short answer, and those with extreme views, such as Rand, merit an extreme evaluation. I have actually discussed Rand at length previously, partly on this list and partly in private correspondence with an other lister. I'm not particularly inclined to do so again. P. > Hi All, and Pete, > > All I can say is that you have been extremely thorough and exceptionally > articulate in expressing your profoundly divergent beliefs in the context of > Rand's Objectivism and I must applaud you in your very convincing and thought > provoking point of view. Although you have not caused me to question my own > beliefs, I certainly appreciate your candor and enthusiasm. Any thoughts on > DeSade? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2001 Report Share Posted January 24, 2001 Steve, A short question gets a short answer, and those with extreme views, such as Rand, merit an extreme evaluation. I have actually discussed Rand at length previously, partly on this list and partly in private correspondence with an other lister. I'm not particularly inclined to do so again. P. > Hi All, and Pete, > > All I can say is that you have been extremely thorough and exceptionally > articulate in expressing your profoundly divergent beliefs in the context of > Rand's Objectivism and I must applaud you in your very convincing and thought > provoking point of view. Although you have not caused me to question my own > beliefs, I certainly appreciate your candor and enthusiasm. Any thoughts on > DeSade? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2001 Report Share Posted January 24, 2001 True, Rand was not a perfect human being; she had some personal faults. But who is perfect? Who has no personal shortcomings? The last person who allegedly was perfect found himself nailed to the cross 2000 years ago. If there had been a perfect person since J.C. he would by definiton be perfectly smart. Wouldn't a person this smart have learned to keep his perfection below the radar in order to avoid J.C.'s fate? Sorry to jump off your post. This touched on a pet idea I return to now and again; that those individuals who have reached the highest possible level of human development don't broadcast it or call attention to themselves. If this is true then you can easily spot the frauds out there. They're the ones claiming to be the real thing. Nate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 25, 2001 Report Share Posted January 25, 2001 > Ayn Rand is the discoverer of Objectivism as revealed in the > following article: " Discoverer " implies finding an existing reality. She *invented* Objectivism. > > But people who read books that attack Ayn Rand and > Objectivism should realize that without Ayn Rand, her attackers >would be unknown ciphers. Everyone who attacks Ayn Rand needs her >work to rise to fame if not fortune, albeit by attempting to smear >Rand and undermine her intellectual achievement. Well historians of Hitler and Nazism need him and it for their achievements too. Does that make him and it superior? Also I doubt any Rand critic's sole achievement concerns attacking her. Even the Branden's have done their exposures of Rand. > This > means that there would be no Neo-Tech, which in turn means there > would be no Local Group. Sounds like she has a lot to answer for. > And L. Hunter would be an unknown > gardener in Europe or America. You are an unknown anyway, arent you? > Finally, millions today might be > living in the USSA: the United Socialist States of America run by > politicos exemplified by Nazi-sympathizer Pat Buchanan. And if it werent for me Grinch might have stolen Xmas. American democracy seems to have managed for a couple of hundred years or so before this Russian hack showed up. What this egomaniac had the chutzpah to call " Objectivism " involves kidergarten morality and economics and an equally pre-adolescent belief that her political and economic views were somehow rational imperatives. As it is, I think her naive and revolting political views would create a corporate fascist dystopia of baroque proportions. Ken, do we have to put up with this guy who appears to just want to promote his thing Neuro-Tic or whatever? P. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 25, 2001 Report Share Posted January 25, 2001 > Ayn Rand is the discoverer of Objectivism as revealed in the > following article: " Discoverer " implies finding an existing reality. She *invented* Objectivism. > > But people who read books that attack Ayn Rand and > Objectivism should realize that without Ayn Rand, her attackers >would be unknown ciphers. Everyone who attacks Ayn Rand needs her >work to rise to fame if not fortune, albeit by attempting to smear >Rand and undermine her intellectual achievement. Well historians of Hitler and Nazism need him and it for their achievements too. Does that make him and it superior? Also I doubt any Rand critic's sole achievement concerns attacking her. Even the Branden's have done their exposures of Rand. > This > means that there would be no Neo-Tech, which in turn means there > would be no Local Group. Sounds like she has a lot to answer for. > And L. Hunter would be an unknown > gardener in Europe or America. You are an unknown anyway, arent you? > Finally, millions today might be > living in the USSA: the United Socialist States of America run by > politicos exemplified by Nazi-sympathizer Pat Buchanan. And if it werent for me Grinch might have stolen Xmas. American democracy seems to have managed for a couple of hundred years or so before this Russian hack showed up. What this egomaniac had the chutzpah to call " Objectivism " involves kidergarten morality and economics and an equally pre-adolescent belief that her political and economic views were somehow rational imperatives. As it is, I think her naive and revolting political views would create a corporate fascist dystopia of baroque proportions. Ken, do we have to put up with this guy who appears to just want to promote his thing Neuro-Tic or whatever? P. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 25, 2001 Report Share Posted January 25, 2001 Like I said, "So what's wrong with Ayn Rand?" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 25, 2001 Report Share Posted January 25, 2001 Like I said, "So what's wrong with Ayn Rand?" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 25, 2001 Report Share Posted January 25, 2001 At 04:27 AM 1/24/01 +0000, you wrote: > > > Hi All, > > > > So what's wrong with Ayn Rand? > >Libertarian let-them-eat-caker from hell! Heh, no, she wasn't a libertarian. She referred to libertarians as " anarchists " and was disgusted when libertarians quoted her work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 25, 2001 Report Share Posted January 25, 2001 At 04:27 AM 1/24/01 +0000, you wrote: > > > Hi All, > > > > So what's wrong with Ayn Rand? > >Libertarian let-them-eat-caker from hell! Heh, no, she wasn't a libertarian. She referred to libertarians as " anarchists " and was disgusted when libertarians quoted her work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 25, 2001 Report Share Posted January 25, 2001 At 04:27 AM 1/24/01 +0000, you wrote: > > > Hi All, > > > > So what's wrong with Ayn Rand? > >Libertarian let-them-eat-caker from hell! Heh, no, she wasn't a libertarian. She referred to libertarians as " anarchists " and was disgusted when libertarians quoted her work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 25, 2001 Report Share Posted January 25, 2001 > > > True, Rand was not a perfect human being; she had some personal > faults. But who is perfect? Who has no personal shortcomings? The > last person who allegedly was perfect found himself nailed to the > cross 2000 years ago. > > If there had been a perfect person since J.C. he would by definiton be perfectly smart. > Wouldn't a person this smart have learned to keep his perfection below the radar in order to avoid J.C.'s fate? > > Sorry to jump off your post. This touched on a pet idea I return to now and again; that those individuals who have reached the highest possible level of human development don't broadcast it or call attention to themselves. If this is true then you can easily spot the frauds out there. They're the ones claiming to be the real thing. > > Nate Right. To become invisible, visit http://www.neo-tech.com/djourney/invisible.php Hunter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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